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The Matter Of Homosexuality by Nobody: 9:18pm On Jan 01, 2019
I am going to try to make this as short and as simple as possible.
Gays/Lesbians/Trannies and other people like that(un-straight) have matters that have been largely debated as regards their effects on societies.
But I think a NEW study is needed to help us to understand the phenomenon of human behavior.
I don't think psychology, psychiatry,biology, etc have been as effective as they should.
But they are still indispensable to us and I would like people to feel the impact of these fields greatly.
Yet,I believe there is a lot to be demystified/discovered/explained/corrected /simplified.

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by Shelumiel: 9:27pm On Jan 01, 2019
Homosexuals are people possessed by the demons

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by Aaronsrod: 9:29pm On Jan 01, 2019
Shelumiel:
Homosexuals are people possessed by the demons

Correct!

We must put every one of them to death as the Bible commands us!

Christians! We must do our duty!
Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by lenghtinny(m): 9:34pm On Jan 01, 2019
if its not demons then its the devil angry

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MexManuel(m): 9:47pm On Jan 01, 2019
Shelumiel:
Homosexuals are people possessed by the demons

Gay people in my opinion are not possessed. Religion makes many people think so because proponents of religion do not understand the complexity of homosexualism (same-sex attraction), and as not understanding something, homosexuality is labelled a sin.

A gay person is as normal and productive as a straight person, the major difference being in whom they choose to love.

I have in my many study about homosexualism not being able to bring one thing and tell you this is what is wrong with homosexualism or homosexual people. The only thing I would say is that my religion does not support it, and does not have clear reason(s) why it does not support it.

It is okay for one not to support homosexualism, but it wrong to have hatred or manifest your hatred towards gay people.
Infact in some society now, homophobia is a crime, and with crimes, it is punishable.
What is required of us all is respecting the rights and dignity of everyone. Report cases when one abuses your right or becomes a threat to you.


Many of us want to go abroad or are abroad already. Shebi that abroad woman can marry woman, and man can marry man? Yet we still want to go.

The demons are not actually gay people but people calling gay people demons.

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by Shelumiel: 10:00pm On Jan 01, 2019
MexManuel:


Gay people in my opinion are not possessed. Religion makes many people think so because proponents of religion do not understand the complexity of homosexualism (same-sex attraction), and as not understanding something, homosexuality is labelled a sin.

A gay person is as normal and productive as a straight person, the major difference being in whom they choose to love.

I have in my many study about homosexualism not being able to bring one thing and tell you this is what is wrong with homosexualism or homosexual people. The only thing I would say is that my religion does not support it, and does not have clear reason(s) why it does not support it.

It is okay for one not to support homosexualism, but it wrong to have hatred or manifest your towards gay people.
Infact in some society now, homophobia is a crime, and with crimes, it is punishable.
What is required of us all is respecting the right and dignity of everyone. Report cases when one abuses your right or becomes a threat to you.


Many of us want to go abroad or are abroad already. Shebi that abroad woman can marry woman, and man can marry man? Yet we still want to go.

The demon is not actually gay people but people calling gay people demons.
It seems you enjoy talking before giving thought to anything . How can any right-thinking person say such ? Common sense should tell you that homosexuality is something non-existent in nature(just look at animals and see if they practice such !). Did your mother mate with her kind to bring you into this world? Answer

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by Nobody: 10:03pm On Jan 01, 2019
Shelumiel:
It seems you enjoy talking before giving thought to anything . How can any right-thinking person say such ? Common sense should tell you that homosexuality is something non-existent in nature(just look at animals and see if they practice such !). Did your mother mate with her kind to bring you into this world? Answer

We need a new study.Forget about his post

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MexManuel(m): 10:28pm On Jan 01, 2019
Shelumiel:
It seems you enjoy talking before giving thought to anything . How can any right-thinking person say such ? Common sense should tell you that homosexuality is something non-existent in nature(just look at animals and see if they practice such !). Did your mother mate with her kind to bring you into this world? Answer


Before telling me to give a thought to what I said, give a thought to your life and all that you do.

Let's start from there.

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by Nobody: 12:24am On Jan 02, 2019
Aaronsrod:


Correct!

We must put every one of them to death as the Bible commands us!

Christians! We must do our duty!
No doing so means committing murder as the same bible is against it. Praying to cast the spell is the best to go

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by Nobody: 12:31am On Jan 02, 2019
MexManuel:


Gay people in my opinion are not possessed. Religion makes many people think so because proponents of religion do not understand the complexity of homosexualism (same-sex attraction), and as not understanding something, homosexuality is labelled a sin.

A gay person is as normal and productive as a straight person, the major difference being in whom they choose to love.

I have in my many study about homosexualism not being able to bring one thing and tell you this is what is wrong with homosexualism or homosexual people. The only thing I would say is that my religion does not support it, and does not have clear reason(s) why it does not support it.

It is okay for one not to support homosexualism, but it wrong to have hatred or manifest your towards gay people.
Infact in some society now, homophobia is a crime, and with crimes, it is punishable.
What is required of us all is respecting the right and dignity of everyone. Report cases when one abuses your right or becomes a threat to you.


Many of us want to go abroad or are abroad already. Shebi that abroad woman can marry woman, and man can marry man? Yet we still want to go.

The demon is not actually gay people but people calling gay people demons.
Gayism is demonic. Although religion non science has been able to give a good study of this tendency, many persons are dying in silent because of the act. Many wish they were never born or they didn't have that kind of affection towards their same sex. This is not as a result constant condemnation from different people but the sadnesses many see in their friends living a normal life. We should pray for them to be delivered instead of this constant verbal attack on them

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by adelee777: 5:42am On Jan 02, 2019
MexManuel:


Gay people in my opinion are not possessed. Religion makes many people think so because proponents of religion do not understand the complexity of homosexualism (same-sex attraction), and as not understanding something, homosexuality is labelled a sin.

A gay person is as normal and productive as a straight person, the major difference being in whom they choose to love.

I have in my many study about homosexualism not being able to bring one thing and tell you this is what is wrong with homosexualism or homosexual people. The only thing I would say is that my religion does not support it, and does not have clear reason(s) why it does not support it.

It is okay for one not to support homosexualism, but it wrong to have hatred or manifest your hatred towards gay people.
Infact in some society now, homophobia is a crime, and with crimes, it is punishable.
What is required of us all is respecting the rights and dignity of everyone. Report cases when one abuses your right or becomes a threat to you.


Many of us want to go abroad or are abroad already. Shebi that abroad woman can marry woman, and man can marry man? Yet we still want to go.

The demons are not actually gay people but people calling gay people demons.
Does nature support it? Cos if nature supports it two gay persons should be able to reproduce between themselves. Would you guys consider bestiality as being right also?

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by OpenYourEyes1: 7:29am On Jan 02, 2019
MexManuel:



The demons are not actually gay people but people calling gay people demons.

The god of night templar/freemasonry, (baphomet) is a gay demon.
Many demons are usually androgynous beings. So it won't be out of place to refer them as gay.
baphomet the gay god is served by Western ruling elites in secret. The god probably has control over the western society hence the acceptance of homosexuality.

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by OpenYourEyes1: 7:51am On Jan 02, 2019
OpenYourEyes1:


The god of night templar/freemasonry, (baphomet) is a gay demon.
Many demons are usually androgynous beings. So it won't be out of place to refer them as gay.
baphomet the gay god is served by Western ruling elites in secret. The god probably has control over the western society hence the acceptance of homosexuality.

Aleister Crowley on Baphomet:

"The Devil does not exist. It is a false name invented by the Black Brothers to imply a Unity in their ignorant muddle of dispersions. A devil who had unity would be a God... 'The Devil' is, historically, the God of any people that one personally dislikes... This serpent, SATAN, is not the enemy of Man, but He who made Gods of our race, knowing Good and Evil; He bade 'Know Thyself!' and taught Initiation. He is 'The Devil' of The Book of Thoth, and His emblem is BAPHOMET, the Androgyne who is the hieroglyph of arcane perfection... He is therefore Life, and Love. But moreover his letter is ayin, the Eye, so that he is Light; and his Zodiacal image is Capricornus, that leaping goat whose attribute is Liberty."

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by Nobody: 10:38am On Jan 02, 2019
OpenYourEyes1:


Aleister Crowley on Baphomet:

"The Devil does not exist. It is a false name invented by the Black Brothers to imply a Unity in their ignorant muddle of dispersions. A devil who had unity would be a God... 'The Devil' is, historically, the God of any people that one personally dislikes... This serpent, SATAN, is not the enemy of Man, but He who made Gods of our race, knowing Good and Evil; He bade 'Know Thyself!' and taught Initiation. He is 'The Devil' of The Book of Thoth, and His emblem is BAPHOMET, the Androgyne who is the hieroglyph of arcane perfection... He is therefore Life, and Love. But moreover his letter is ayin, the Eye, so that he is Light; and his Zodiacal image is Capricornus, that leaping goat whose attribute is Liberty."

Why should something/someone that doesn't exist interfere in the activities of those that exist? undecided

Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 10:48am On Jan 02, 2019
HellVictorinho:
I am going to try to make this as short and as simple as possible.
Gays/Lesbians/Trannies and other people like that(un-straight) have matters that have been largely debated as regards their effects on societies.
But I think a NEW study is needed to help us to understand the phenomenon of human behavior.
I don't think psychology, psychiatry,biology, etc have been as effective as they should.
But they are still indispensable to us and I would like people to feel the impact of these fields greatly.
Yet,I believe there is a lot to be

demystified/discovered/explained/corrected /simplified.
The web link you posted is incomplete, please do the needful

Shelumiel:
It seems you enjoy talking before giving thought to anything . How can any right-thinking person say such? Common sense should tell you that homosexuality is something non-existent in nature(just look at animals and see if they practice such !). Did your mother mate with her kind to bring you into this world? Answer
Will you retract this comment and the above emboldened, if I provide you with proofs of the evidence of homosexual behaviours in nature and also give you examples of animals that practise it.

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by Nobody: 11:12am On Jan 02, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
The web link you posted is incomplete, please do the needful

Will you retract this comment and the above emboldened, if I provide you with proofs of the evidence of homosexual behaviours in nature and also give you examples of animals that practise it.

Every state of mind is a psychological matter. But the 'mental-activity' induced/propelled behavioral condition we are talking about has to be completely demystified.
."Everything is Meaningless"
Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 11:16am On Jan 02, 2019
HellVictorinho:


Every state of mind is a psychological matter. But the 'mental-activity' induced/propelled behavioral condition we are talking about has to be completely demystified.
."Everything is Meaningless"
Billyonaire or whatever your name is, the website link you posted is incomplete, please do the needful.
Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by Nobody: 11:24am On Jan 02, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Billyonaire or whatever your name is, the website link you posted is incomplete, please do the needful.

I am not 'Billyonaire' and I didn't post any website link!!!!!!!
Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 11:31am On Jan 02, 2019
HellVictorinho:


I am not 'Billyonaire' and I didn't post any website link!!!!!!!
Sorry, I thought the last part with slashes, in your
"Yet, I believe there is a lot to be
demystified/discovered/explained/corrected /simplified
" sentence was an incomplete website link
Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by Nobody: 12:10pm On Jan 02, 2019
I don't think Homosexuality,/Transsexuality/Pansexuality are caused by demon possession. These are acquired behaviours through exposure to the wrong type of environment or material and also caused by circumstances surrounding the persons childhood.

These behaviours can be unlearnt , outgrown or in many cases can remain permanent.

My only grudge is with aggressive attempts by certain groups to force these behaviours down our throats and try to make them normal. They are not normal - period.

So if you decide to remain a homosexual then please keep it PERSONAL , don't force this behaviour on society as a whole. Further , nobody should persecute , antagonise or attack homosexuals, after all it is no different to adultery , sexual deviance and other forms of perversion that are practised by the same people who attack and humiliate homosexuals.

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by Nobody: 12:23pm On Jan 02, 2019
frosbel2:
I don't think Homosexuality,/Transsexuality/Pansexuality are caused by demon possession. These are acquired behaviours through exposure to the wrong type of environment or material and also caused by circumstances surrounding the persons childhood.

These behaviours can be unlearnt , outgrown or in many cases can remain permanent.

My only grudge is with aggressive attempts by certain groups to force these behaviours down our throats and try to make them normal. They are not normal - period.

So if you decide to remain a homosexual then please keep it PERSONAL , don't force this behaviour on society as a whole. Further , nobody should persecute , antagonise or attack homosexuals, after all it is no different to adultery , sexual deviance and other forms of perversion that are practised by the same people who attack and humiliate homosexuals.


That's thoughtful. But how do we determine what caused the first set of homosexual humans to be like that ?
Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 12:43pm On Jan 02, 2019
HellVictorinho:
That's thoughtful. But how do we determine what caused the first set of homosexual humans to be like that ?
With the utmost respect and without any intent to insult, both you, frosbel2 along with some ill-informed homophobic comments by other bigoted posters here are each and all ignorant, if you don't know that the human being by design is created with the impulse to swing the other way.

Why as frosbel2 suggests should anyone unlearn what is legitimately natural to me?
Would frosbel2 love his kid less if confided in him being gay? Would he disown the kid?

Of course, it isn't normal for you but it is normal to them. They arent attracted sexually to the opposite sex like we are. We don't live in a world where everything and everyone will be the same.

Homosexuals are least of anyone's and the world's problems. There are more problems like starvation, injustice, oppression, victimisation, homophobia etcetera to deal with than x-raying homosexual lifestyles

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by Nobody: 1:16pm On Jan 02, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
With the utmost respect and without any intent to insult, both you, frosbel2 along with some ill-informed homophobic comments by other bigoted posters here are each and all ignorant, if you don't know that the human being by design is created with the impulse to swing the other way.

Why as frosbel2 suggests should anyone unlearn what is legitimately natural to me?
Would frosbel2 love his kid less if confided in him being gay? Would he disown the kid?

What!!!!! I stated that WE need a new study.I never said that anyone that is gay must be stoned.And whatever knowledge anyone(including you) has concerning this matter is currently insufficient.

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by Nobody: 1:22pm On Jan 02, 2019
God didn't create anyone as an homosexual, it is one of the manifestation of the sin nature of man. God hates homosexuality just as other sins but he chooses to deliver sinners including homosexuals from these sins through Jesus Christ. The question before every man is , do you want God's help through Jesus or you want to perish in sin? That's it

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by OpenYourEyes1: 1:44pm On Jan 02, 2019
HellVictorinho:


That's thoughtful. But how do we determine what caused the first set of homosexual humans to be like that ?

Definitely not mutation.
We all have bad behaviours we need to unlearn.
Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 2:27pm On Jan 02, 2019
HellVictorinho:
What!!!!! I stated that WE need a new study I never said that anyone that is gay must be stoned. And whatever knowledge anyone(including you) has concerning this matter is currently insufficient.
How do you mean what?. Did you read me saying you said or implied anyone that's gay should be stoned. It looks like your guilty conscience is disturbing you.

Now the knowledge out there is sufficient enough to let everyone know that practising same sex relationships the right way is OK with God


solite3:
God didn't create anyone as an homosexual, it is one of the manifestation of the sin nature of man. God hates homosexuality just as other sins but he chooses to deliver sinners including homosexuals from these sins through Jesus Christ. The question before every man is , do you want God's help through Jesus or you want to perish in sin? That's it
God never said he hated homosexual, please stop lying to yourself and stop deceiving others with your ignorance.

Show me in the Bible where God outrightly said he hates homosexuality and be prepared to clearly, cleanly and correctly defend it solite3

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by Nobody: 2:47pm On Jan 02, 2019
MuttleyLaff:



God never said he hated homosexual, please stop lying to yourself and stop deceiving others with your ignorance.


Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


God called it an abomination.




Show me in the Bible where God outrightly said he hates homosexuality and be prepared to clearly, cleanly and correctly defend it solite3



Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;



Homosexuality is an error which comes from a reprobate mind.
It is a sin because it goes against God's moral law. It is an abomination because it subvers God's natural order.

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by Ranchhoddas: 3:04pm On Jan 02, 2019
^^

Abomination!!!
It will be interesting to see Muttleylaff wriggle out of this trap that he has set for himself.

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 3:06pm On Jan 02, 2019
solite3:
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

God called it an abomination.

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Homosexuality is an error which comes from a reprobate mind.
It is a sin because it goes against God's moral law. It is an abomination because it subvers God's natural order.
Do you have the awareness that you don't understand what Leviticus 20:13 and Romans 1:26-28 were each and all about?

Also do you have the awareness that you fail to understand the context and the surrounding reason why God said abomination was committed in Leviticus 20:13?

What goes against God's moral is infidelity. Would you say driving with legs subverts God's natural order?

I repeated here questions I asked frosbel2. Would you love your kid any less if confided in you about being gay? Would you disown the kid?

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 3:12pm On Jan 02, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
^^Abomination!!!
It will be interesting to see Muttleylaff wriggle out of this trap that he has set for himself.
I have dealt with abomination severally in the past. This is a well trodden path for me. There is a lot of education to get on that interesting word abomination. It's just mind blowing.

I feel so sorry for the "against homosexuality" brigade. It is sad and worrying the level of the cult of ignorance.

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by Ranchhoddas: 3:15pm On Jan 02, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
I have dealt with abomination severally in the past. This is a well trodden path for me. There is a lot of education to get on that interesting word abomination. It's just mind blowing.

I feel so sorry for the "against homosexuality" brigade. It is sad and worrying the level of the cult of ignorance.
Abomination means something else? Interesting.

Go ahead biko!

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Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 3:25pm On Jan 02, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
Abomination means something else? Interesting.

Go ahead biko!
This is second time you've made me laugh out like a hyena today. First it was when you said tacky examples and now this

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