It goes without saying that most atheists are only using atheism as an excuse to justify their rebellious tendencies against God.

Though the use of "most" instead of "all" to quantify "atheists" in that particular saying, means that it doesn't apply to all atheists.

And the recent conversions of two well known nairaland atheists to Christ confirms that assertion, that as few as they may be, that there are yet atheists who genuinely want to believe in God, but are only seeking a very compelling reason to do so.

And going by the unanimous reason giving by these Jesus newbies for choosing atheism in the first place, it appears the major reason why such ones become atheists, is the general attitude of Christians.

For despite they christians claim to believe in Christ, and are His followers, they are usually more like the devil in their attitude than the Christ that they profess.

For the attitude of Christ whom they profess is so compelling, that on it own it often draws people to Him, but instead of being like Him in that respect, the attitude of Christians are observed to achieve the exact opposite, as it usually drives people away from Christ.

For usually such atheists would love to be in Christ's boat because of the attitude of Christ Himself which is most endearing to say the least, but on the other hand there is the attitude of Christians, which is most often the vice versa of that Christ.

Therefore as Christ is not here Himself in person, but just the Christians who more or less exhibit the opposite of His attitude, they would not see the point of coming to Him, since the ones who they see as His representatives on Earth are like the devil himself in their attitude, and hence it becomes more reasonable for them to remain where they are, instead of having to come to Christ, and then having to deal in close quarters with the overwhelming majority of wolves dressed in the sheep clothing of Christianity.

And this doesn't just apply to the atheists or those who are outside the church, but also those who are inside, as the attitude of most Christian folks which leaves a lot to be desired, has been responsible for driving some away from Christ.

And being someone that was brought up under a Christian set up, the wickedness of most Christians and church folks is not something new to me, for I already had enough knowledge and first-hand experience regarding that, even before opening an account with Nairaland.

For I've seen a lot of christians who pray and fast a lot, go to church a lot, quote the bible a lot, even ordained ministers and leaders of the church, exhibiting the extent of wickedness with respect to their neighbors that I wonder how such people would able to do that and yet feel very comfortable mentioning the name of God in the same breath.

Now this is not in any way speaking about the exceptional cases where christians who are righteous in their ways make a one or two mistakes, for that is understandable to me. But this is about the norm where wickedness is a lifestyle and the order in the life of a christian.

But knowing that that is not the way it ought to be, I try as much as I possibly can to confront them in a bid to get them to repent of their evil and turn away from their wicked ways.

But apart from a few exceptions where such had been heeded, it would usually seems as though I was talking to a rock, with respect to how they react to it, that i've in fact I've been on the receiving end of a few literal christian blows as a result.

Therefore it was with this inclination that I came to Nairaland, hence my numerous threads and posts to expose such wickedness and devilish traits in the church and the lives of most Christians, and bring It to light, such as my series of righteousness/wickedness threads, the first of which was titled "A Righteous Atheist/Pagan Is Better Than A Wicked Christian".

Yeah! For me to bring such wickedness of Christians to light meant that i was surely asking for trouble, and I got a lot of it, as although I had been at the receiving end of their fury prior to this in this forum, this particular series seemed to trigger a whole new level of such.

As I can remember the night when i was on the second thread of that righteousness/wickedness series that was titled "A righteous christian is better than a righteous atheist."

And budaatum an atheist at the time appeared to be upset by the opinion of that thread, which seemed to give the righteous Christians the edge over righteous atheists, and hence expressed his reservations concerning it.

But while he did, all of a sudden i'm sure even to his own bewilderment, came some nairaland Christians on the same thread to vent their fury at me, to the extent that even buda who had initially come to disagree with me concerning that opinion now had to start doing the otherwise and defend me and my position before them.

But then as typical of most christians, they treated buda as an outcast, who to them was not qualified to give his own opinion on the matter because he was not a christian, despite the fact that he had made a valid point, that now led to me to now have to switch roles with him in that respect, and hence having to defend him and myself, all by myself, but it seemed I was ready to take them on and really up to the task that night.

https://www.nairaland.com/4928422/righteous-christian-better-than-righteous

Continued reading below

But despite that I had proven that I had enough in my arsenal to counter whatever they threw at me, even though I was alone having to come up against at least two of them, i have to admit that i wasn't really happy with the extent of backing I was receiving from God at that point, who I felt i was going through all this for.

For i felt that if I had that, at least even though such Christians opposed me to such an extent, that it would at least be in spite of that backing, and hence much easier for me to deal with on the basis of that. And it was on that frustrating note that I went to bed that night.

But then I woke up the following morning to a mention, which was one of the most shocking comments I have ever received to date in this forum, and it was this:

"jesusjnr is the only christian that earns my respect in this forum".

https://www.nairaland.com/4923763/please-tell-ushow-got-thought/3#74262152

And I looked at the moniker and I was absolutely certain that I had never had any interactions with the moniker beforehand, even though I could just remember having seen it while glancing through the threads in the religion section.

And then when she said that she had never opened any of my threads but it was just a thread title of mine that she had seen beforehand, my mind just went back to my frustrations of the previous night that I had gone to bed with about God's lack of backing of my efforts, as it appeared that this was His instant response to that, as beyond that endorsement of my efforts here, today the atheist that said that concerning me has now dumped atheism as a result and come to Christ.

And the same is budaatum the atheist at the time that was there with me the previous night when I was being hit left, right, and center, by some of the Christians of Nairaland, who was initially my defender but ended up being my defended, for buda as well is now for Christ.

And I don't think it's by coincidence that both of them who converted to Christ, and testified about it in nairaland had serious issues with the attitude of most christians, inclusive of those in Nairaland, as that was the main reason they became atheists in the first place.

So it may have come as a surprise to them that they were able to see someone who didn't just claim to be a follower of Christ but also had the Christlike attitude and teachings to back up his claim, as the Michellekabod's comment already provided here showed, coupled with that of buda who had yet an atheist started to call me jesus instead of jesusjnr.

That in spite of my insistence that buda should stop calling me that but jesusjnr, because I wasn't Jesus but just a servant of His, he persisted.

And the reason buda gave for doing that in buda's own words was that "you are as the named".

Now i'm relatively new here(October 3, 2018) so perhaps any old timer here could perhaps be able to help me out, and tell me how many times such a thing has happened in Nairaland prior to this.

Because since I came here, i have never heard of even one Nairaland atheist conversion to Christ, that is connected to Nairaland Christians, but it's only the otherwise even Nairaland Christians that have been converted to atheism, by Nairaland atheists.

And I stand to be corrected on this, for all i have been hearing is the otherwise, even those that have been converted to atheism by hardmirror, joseph1013, seun(who himself was a christian, before being converted to atheism by Nairaland atheists), Hahn etc.

And hence it was the hurricane atheism wind that was said to my hearing to have been sweeping across nairaland according to some bragging atheists here, who appeared to be content with their achievement thus far as it seemed easy breezy for them in the Nairaland, except for few instances of some Christians here who they claimed had refused to follow suit.

And they certainly had a point in the respect of them having an easy ride to that extent, but from these recent results in Nairaland it shows that they would never have had such extent of success in nairaland and elsewhere without the backing and help of the unchristlike attitude of most Christians here in nairaland and elsewhere.

For i very well know how important the power of God to do convincing works is to the church for it to be able to bring those of the world to Jesus, but I also know that the attitude of those of the church, who claim to be followers of Christ, is also very important to bring people to Christ as well, or to make them change from their wicked ways.

This is something I've learnt from personal experience, for the extent to which my attitude or example alone has been able to inspire positive changes in people around me, or even accorded me certain unusual extent of trust or respect from men, that some have even trusted me with certain personal things more than their own selves, has made me a believer that someone's example or attitude is indeed able to convince people to believe the gospel and to turn from their wicked ways, possibly in some ways even more than preaching the gospel can.

Therefore I already knew that before I came to Nairaland, so the distinctive results I've gotten contrary to the norm with most Christians here, with respect to drawing people to Christ, are only but a confirmation of that truth.

One of the reasons why Jesus was able to command so much respect from His disciples to the extent that they thought it was an honor to even suffer shame and to die for His name sake, is the example that He the Master had set before them.

For if to them, if Jesus their Master could go to such an extent, then how much more they who were His disciples?

I believe the example of Christ is one which the Christians of nairaland and beyond should take a cue from, so their attitude would stop being the reason for people to be leave Christ or not wanting to come to Him, but would give them a reason to want to become and remain a part of His fold, and hence draw them to Christ.

For that way, they would prove that they are actually working for Christ, and not for the devil.

jesusjnr:
It goes without saying that most atheists are only using atheism as an excuse to justify their rebellious tendencies against God.

Some atheists surely would find absurd a need to "justify their rebellious tendencies" - if they have any rebellious tendencies that is - to a God that they do not accept exists. To some atheists, it would be like eating invisible food when hungry and expecting to be full.

It goes without saying by whom exactly?

budaatum:

Some atheists surely would find absurd a need to "justify their rebellious tendencies" - if they have any rebellious tendencies that is - to a God that they do not accept exists. To some atheists, it would be like eating invisible food when hungry and expecting to be full.

It goes without saying by whom exactly?

Hi buda.

Not all atheists but most!

It goes without saying by the truth.

Hmmm...

Atheism isnt spreading

Its dying.
Before christianity, there was atheism.

Yet Christianity came and surpassed it.

felixomor:
Atheism isnt spreading

Its dying.
Before christianity, there was atheism.

Yet Christianity came and surpassed it.

Does this your view also apply to nairaland?

jesusjnr:
Does this your view also apply to nairaland?

Read this thread,
You will know why it seems they are many.
They open multiple monikers just to troll religious people. Simple

https://www.nairaland.com/3449468/4-reasons-why-atheists-create

jesusjnr:
Does this your view also apply to nairaland?

So you that joined NL less than a year thought Atheism is increasing....laughing at you...

If NL Atheist is increasing you will see majority of oldest Atheists here but as it is now, you'll hardly see one and those who still available have their view change.

felixomor:
Atheism isnt spreading
Its dying. Before christianity, there was atheism.
Yet Christianity came and surpassed it.

u 've spoken my mind bro

Foremost (Nairaland) Christians DID NOT at any point Aid The Spread Of Atheism. Few Among us engage them in hot debate sometimes is a necessity to stop their lies right in their mouth before it gets out. The Tales of Two Mirror clear reveal why Christian Apologist need to be hard on non-penitence and unrepentant atheist.

The story goes a long way to the point many Christian almost lost their faith until the lies of Hardmirror was busted by damogul who took upon himself to investigate some claim. The action infuriated seun that he had to Change the Topic of Discussion without Creators Permission and would later to close the Thread without a tangible reason only for him to leave the Thread of lies untouched so that the evil of the thread can continue. This is a long story so am going to leave that.

I will also advise you to take caution and don't be carried away by flatteries, the only former atheist who I can trust their good testimony are winner01 and urheme.

The Character of some of the atheist can be likened to a viper,

felixomor:


Read this thread,
You will know why it seems they are many.
They open multiple monikers just to troll religious people. Simple

https://www.nairaland.com/3449468/4-reasons-why-atheists-create

So you mean the instances of budaatum and michellekabod that left atheism for Christ were also opening multiple monikers just to troll religious people?

So how about seun, frosbel, capslocked, et al that were hitherto Christians, before converting to atheism here on Nairaland?

It seems you just want to believe what you want to believe and rather tow the line of sentiments, but not that of the reality of what is actually going on here.

As you can see, even though i'm new here, I had come to first acknowledge the reality that atheism was thumping Christianity on nairaland, and hence try to look for a way to reverse the trend, hence these results.

For as you can see I don't do sentiments, if I did, i wouldn't have said that most atheists are only using it as an excuse.

Hence it's a very serious issue to me the unchristlike attitude of most christians but you seem to be okay with that as long as they are there making up the numbers for you use to justify your sentimental position.

jesusjnr:
So you mean the instances of budaatum and michellekabod that left atheism for Christ were also opening multiple monikers just to troll religious people?

So how about seun, frosbel, capslocked, et al that were hitherto Christians, before converting to atheism here on Nairaland?

It seems you just want to believe what you want to believe and rather tow the line of sentiments, but not that of the reality of what is actually going on here.

As you can see, even though i'm new here, I had come to first acknowledge the reality that atheism was thumping Christianity on nairaland, and hence try to look for a way to reverse the trend, hence these results.

For as you can see I don't do sentiments, if I did, i wouldn't have said that most atheists are only using it as an excuse.

Hence it's a very serious issue to me the unchristlike attitude of most Christians but you seem to be okay with that as long as they are there making up the numbers for you use to justify your sentimental position.

You are a New Comer, you only knew few things.
1st => Seu.n claim to be an atheist long before creating Nairaland.
2nd => budaatum as a lot of versions like Otem........., Atum.......
3rd => A lot of Christian used to be VERY active a long time ago, some quit because of religious debate about God.
4th => Condition Surrounding The Tales of Two Mirrors makes a lot Vibrant Christian go solo, some decide to confine themselves to single Thread like CharlyG1,

Pst JOagbaje, Shadeyinka among used to be others were vibrant on this Forum not until things began to get messy in the Religion Section. And the fault is from one Man who hold the key.

Many Christian don't want to waste their time here when the owner of the forum don't appreciate their participation. If the good old days can be revived, you will see the Grace-filled Christian here

jesusjnr:
So you mean the instances of budaatum and michellekabod that left atheism for Christ were also opening multiple monikers just to troll religious people?

So how about seun, frosbel, capslocked, et al that were hitherto Christians, before converting to atheism here on Nairaland?

It seems you just want to believe what you want to believe and rather tow the line of sentiments, but not that of the reality of what is actually going on here.

As you can see, even though i'm new here, I had come to first acknowledge the reality that atheism was thumping Christianity on nairaland, and hence try to look for a way to reverse the trend, hence these results.

For as you can see I don't do sentiments, if I did, i wouldn't have said that most atheists are only using it as an excuse.

Hence it's a very serious issue to me the unchristlike attitude of most christians but you seem to be okay with that as long as they are there making up the numbers for you use to justify your sentimental position.

Christianity can never be thumped.
Has never been and will never be.
All the people u mentioned have been schooled at different times.

Unless i are just another multiple moniker
You are new yet u know all of them.

Indeed

Emusan:


So you that joined NL less than a year thought Atheism is increasing....laughing at you...

If NL Atheist is increasing you will see majority of oldest Atheists here but as it is now, you'll hardly see one and those who still available have their view change.

Well keep laughing, because you would also be laughing at some old Christians here who have expressed such concerns here as well, such as mobilla.

Maybe she's also been here less than a year, Lol!

The difference is clear, those Christians that care about the sheep, and those who don't.

Maybe since you've been here for a long time, you should at least one known atheist here that you've converted to Christ.

If you don't have any, then maybe that should give you more reasons to be laughing at me who has just been here for less than a year and been able to achieve that, and even more.

felixomor:

Christianity can never be thumped.
Has never been and will never be.
All the people u mentioned have been schooled at different times.

Unless i are just another multiple moniker
You are new yet u know all of them.

Indeed

What did Jesus mean when He said that if He returns would He still find faith on Earth?

jesusjnr:
What did Jesus mean when He said that if He returns would He still find faith on Earth?

Pray for revelation.
You will get the meaning.

I Stand for Christ!

llke seriously though

GoodMuyis:


You are a New Comer, you only knew few things.
1st => Seu.n claim to be an atheist long before creating Nairaland.
2nd => budaatum as a lot of versions like Otem........., Atum.......
3rd => A lot of Christian used to be VERY active a long time ago, some quit because of religious debate about God.
4th => Condition Surrounding The Tales of Two Mirrors makes a lot Vibrant Christian go solo, some decide to confine themselves to single Thread like CharlyG1,

Pst JOagbaje, Shadeyinka among used to be others were vibrant on this Forum not until things began to get messy in the Religion Section. And the fault is from one Man who hold the key.

Many Christian don't want to waste their time here when the owner of the forum don't appreciate their participation. If the good old days can be revived, you will see the Grace-filled Christian here

If i'm a new comer here, and you are an old, and yet say that budaatum is connected with the otems, then I know that at least to that extent, I definitely know better than you, because that is absolutely unfounded and a baseless view, and that so certain about.

And if we go by that it may be that you are wrong about the others as well.

I heard seun was a christian here in Nairaland before he became an atheist, and it was due to atheists here that made that happen, but perhaps seun can come and clarify that himself.

Then can you please tell me about any former nairaland atheist that was converted by yourself all the while that you've been here?

And any instance of others?

felixomor:

Pray for revelation.
You will get the meaning.

I asked you a question that questioned your certainty about Christianity, and instead of giving me an answer, you are dodging the question by asking me to pray for revelation.

If you don't have the revelation and need to pray to get it, i don't have such needs, for l already have the full revelation for it, and it means that your certainty concerning christianity and the faith of those who believe in Christ is only a figment of your imagination, for Jesus the Master Himself had concerns concerning this.

Hence it's up to those of us who are yet on Earth to prove to Him that we're ready to do whatever it takes to make sure that there's still faith on earth when He returns.

And one of the ways to do that is to become christlike, and not like the devils that most christians are.

jesusjnr:
I asked you a question that questioned your certainty about Christianity, and instead of giving me an answer, you are dodging the question by asking me to pray for revelation.

If you don't have the revelation and need to pray to get it, i don't have such needs, for l already have the full revelation for it, and it means that your certainty concerning christianity and the faith of those who believe in Christ is only a figment of your imagination, for Jesus the Master Himself had concerns concerning this.

Hence it's up to those of us who are yet on Earth to prove to Him that we're ready to do whatever it takes to make sure that there's still faith on earth when He returns.

And one of the ways to do that is to become christlike, and not like the devils that most christians are.

Brother holier than thou,
A houghty spirit goes before a fall - Proverbs

GoodMuyis:
Foremost (Nairaland) Christians DID NOT at any point Aid The Spread Of Atheism. Few Among us engage them in hot debate sometimes is a necessity to stop their lies right in their mouth before it gets out. The Tales of Two Mirror clear reveal why Christian Apologist need to be hard on non-penitence and unrepentant atheist.

The story goes a long way to the point many Christian almost lost their faith until the lies of Hardmirror was busted by damogul who took upon himself to investigate some claim. The action infuriated seun that he had to Change the Topic of Discussion without Creators Permission and would later to close the Thread without a tangible reason only for him to leave the Thread of lies untouched so that the evil of the thread can continue. This is a long story so am going to leave that.

I will also advise you to take caution and don't be carried away by flatteries, the only former atheist who I can trust their good testimony are winner01 and urheme.

The Character of some of the atheist can be likened to a viper,

Na wah oh!

Hardmirror's story a lie?

I can tell you for a fact that even though i've not been here for a long time, that's you're absolutely got that wrong.

For apart from several old time Nairaland Christians that have confirmed that truth as anas, i have some spiritual indications as well that have shown me that, that was one of the reasons I was brought to Nairaland.

So it seems that your claims here are very questionable, and unsubstantiated.

At least you were able to admit the truth that Nairaland christians were being drawn to atheism because of the atheists here, and I know one who was converted by them.

So you guys should stop seeing this as an opposition but a challenge for you guys to sit up and become more Christlike in your attitude.

p.s. seun and hardmirror amongst others would soon come back to Christ. Watch this space.

felixomor:

Brother holier than thou,
A houghty spirit goes before a fall - Proverbs

Now it's holier than thou?

No wonder atheism was trending in Nairaland before my coming when it's Christians as yourself that are anything but Christlike, that are representing Christ here.

Thank God no more for change has finally come to nairaland, whether the likes of you like it or not.

GoodMuyis:

If the good old days can be revived, you will see the Grace-filled Christian here.

If they can't revive the good old days their Grace might be not as filled as you think!

Yes, I am challenging you Good.

jesusjnr:
[s]Now it's holier than thou?

No wonder atheism was trending in Nairaland before my coming when it's Christians as yourself that are anything but Christlike, that are representing Christ here.

Thank God no more for change has finally come to nairaland, whether the likes of you like it or not[/s].

Delusion

felixomor:

Delusion

How Christians aid the spread of atheism!

budaatum:

If they can't revive the good old days their Grace might be not as filled as you think!

Yes, I am challenging you Good.

Not in this, structure of nairaland. Maybe in the future of grace.com.ng if I have the time for it

jesusjnr:
Na wah oh!

Hardmirror's story a lie?

I can tell you for a fact that even though i've not been here for a long time, that's you're absolutely got that wrong.

For apart from several old time Nairaland Christians that have confirmed that truth as anas, i have some spiritual indications as well that have shown me that, that was one of the reasons I was brought to Nairaland.

So it seems that your claims here are very questionable, and unsubstantiated.

At least you were able to admit the truth that Nairaland christians were being drawn to atheism because of the atheists here, and I know one who was converted by them.

So you guys should stop seeing this as an opposition but a challenge for you guys to sit up and become more Christlike in your attitude.

p.s. seun and hardmirror amongst others would soon come back to Christ. Watch this space.

I see no one as opposition, as my song will usually be "Onward Christian Soldier".

God bless your hustle. More grace be added unto you. Amen.

I have other comment but I keep it reserve.

-peace

GoodMuyis:


Not in this, structure of nairaland. Maybe in the future of grace.com.ng if I have the time for it

You GoodMuyis, will not be fruitful here and increase in number and fill this earth and subdue it and rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on nairaland where you probably expend quite a lot of yourself, but will wait till a future when you have the time for it.

The following is a bav translation of [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A29&version=NIV]verse[/url]. "Those who do little will do even more but those who do nothing do nothing".

budaatum:

You GoodMuyis, will not be fruitful here and increase in number and fill this earth and subdue it and rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on nairaland where you probably expend quite a lot of yourself, but will wait till a future when you have the time for it.

The following is a bav translation of [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A29&version=NIV]verse[/url]. "Those who do little will do even more but those who do nothing do nothing".

14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. 15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.


The part that interest me most on this board is turning into Jokerland, why should I became a joke of the land myself like the owner

jesusjnr:
How Christians aid killed the spread of atheism!

Fixed!

felixomor:
Fixed!

Only on paper, and in your imagination as characteristic.