Because Islam is not for me

Seriously,the biggest reason is that the Fulani murderous jihadists couldn't make it down South fast enough b4 the British came.If not they would have compelled my ancestors to become Muslims.

@ Dasumi,

You are the very epitome of hypocrisy. On the Ka'aba/east thread you were busy asking olutomiwa to "keep the questions coming" so they could be answered. Is this your own way of dodging the question? Why did you fail to answer instead choosing to deflect by opening up a meaningless thread?

OK just 2 reasons why i am a christian:

- I am not a slave, i am a child of the Most High God and a heir of salvation.
- It is not by my power, not by my own might, not by how many salats i can perform, not by my circumbulations neither by how well i slash my body, but it is by the Spirit of God for in Him i live and move and have my being!

you are here busy asking us why we chose to be christians (by the way we did not choose, Christ chose us!) and yet you cry and sob when we simply ask why you pray facing the "east".

davidylan:

- I am not a slave, i am a child of the Most High God and a heir of salvation.
- It is not by my power, not by my own might, not by how many salats i can perform, not by my circumbulations neither by how well i slash my body, but it is by the Spirit of God for in Him i live and move and have my being!

plus:

- the Bible promises that I will never enter HELL as a child of God; whereas the Qur'an in Sura 19:71 promises EVERY Muslim must enter HELL - it is an inevitable decree of Allah!!

_{Ask and I'll offer you the real meaning that the English translators do NOT want you to know.}

Because that's what found me first.

I am a Christian, because Jesus Christ died for my sins on the Cross. Praise be unto His Holy Name Forever and Ever, Amen.

I'm a christian because Jesus Christ is THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. i wouldnt go for anything otherwise, would i? not for a billion pounds!

cos its the best of all faiths and its the only one that offers salvation free of charge.

@Dasuma,

What's with all the capital letters and invectives? Is this how you promote a dialogue between yourself and others?

telly, am sorry if that irritates u. sincere apologies.

No worries. Cheers.

Dear dasuma, while I do not know the purpose for this ur thread, pls note that being born in a particular environment or to a xtian family doesnt make one a xtian.

It's against my principles to shut down religious beliefs. So if I was born into Islam, I would have stuck with it and respected Chritianity. I don't believe in belittling any religion because all religions are based on faith.

dinner m:

because its the best of all faiths and its the only one that offers salvation free of charge.

And you have tried other religions?

@nosa,

nosa101:

It's against my principles to shut down religious beliefs. So if I was born into Islam, I would have stuck with it and respected Chritianity.

you must be a very easy going guy. but scepticsm could be a good thing you know? at least am aware that you are skeptical about many biblical accounts.

nosa101:

I don't believe in belittling any religion because all religions are based on faith.

all religions are based on faith? How so? what do you mean?

Dear Dasuma, your argument is indeed valid. If i had been born to muslim parents perhaps i would be on your side now trying to defend the "east is east" argument, senseless as it may soound.

There is but one difference with christianity though. When u are born to christian parents, yes you are a "christian" by religion but are you truly one at heart? Christianity is a relationship with God and not merely a set of rituals that define a certain cult. God has children, he has no grandchildren. You cannot hop into heaven on the back of your parents. As soon as you reach the age of accountability, the grace of your parents no longer covers you, it is now up to you to make the choice - life in Jesus or spiritual death and separation from your Saviour EVEN THOUGH you still fill forms with the "christian" appelation.

nosa101:

It's against my principles to shut down religious beliefs. So if I was born into Islam, I would have stuck with it and respected Chritianity. I don't believe in belittling any religion because all religions are based on faith.

What is your definition of the word "faith"? Does it have any semblance to that as defined in Hebrews 11:1?

davidylan:

What is your definition of the word "faith"? Does it have any semblance to that as defined in Hebrews 11:1?

I have never read Hebrew 11:1

ricadelide:

@nosa,you must be a very easy going guy. but scepticsm could be a good thing you know? at least am aware that you are skeptical about many biblical accounts.
all religions are based on faith? How so? what do you mean?

Faith in my context means belief without proof (i'm tempted to insert scientific). Blind followership or blind belief, something that keeps you believing despite everything that contradicts what you believe in. My friends died in a plane crash, which isn't just "right" and God should never let things like that happen but faith keeps you from not believing. If I was a Muslim or a Jew, I'll probably still have this faith.

You get what I mean?

@Nosa,

nosa101:

I have never read Hebrew 11:1

I have. I believe i understand what it means.

nosa101:

I have never read Hebrew 11:1Faith in my context means belief without proof (i'm tempted to insert scientific). Blind followership or blind belief, something that keeps you believing despite everything that contradicts what you believe in. My friends died in a plane crash, which isn't just "right" and God should never let things like that happen but faith keeps you from not believing. If I was a Muslim or a Jew, I'll probably still have this faith.

You get what I mean?

I get what YOU mean, but that's not what faith in the biblical context means. Faith in the biblical context is a spiritual thing, and it means the acceptance of spiritual evidence above the physical. In fact, faith is 'being SURE of what we hope for, and CERTAIN of what we do not see' ie the spiritual. So faith does not involve probabilities, it involves certainties. Second, faith is NOT blind. NO. Faith is spiritual vision - it is seeing the unseen. True, a person of faith can disregard what he sees physically (2Cor.5;7), but that's because he is seeing the spiritual (Heb. 11;10). He knows that the spiritual is above the physical, that's why he is more sure of what he cannot see than what he can see; because the spiritual (ie God's word) doesn't change, but the physical always does (2Cor. 4;18). So in fact, biblical faith is not blind, it is rather a superior vision.
Please don't insert scientific, because physical evidence PROVES God. it does not antagonise God.(Rom1;20) Everything that is seen points to, and providence evidence for God. its only foolish people that don't accept that.
However, many times our human experience might be contrary to what we believe - and that is what is referred to as the test or trial of faith 1Pet.1;7-8, and in such conflict, if there is true faith, the spiritual always prevails in our experience and our experience aligns itself with what we beleive. that is why miracles such as healings happen; because the person believes that God CAN heal them (Is.53;5), and thus accepts God's reality (healing) over their experience (sickness) and thus eventually God's reality prevails. True faith always PROVES itself (1Pet.1;9) and that is why those of us who have beleived GOd's word at one time, can do so again and again, and we grow in faith (2Thess.1;3) because it constantly proves itself. that is why the bible says christianity is 'from faith to faith' (Rom 1;17).
Let me explain further, faith comes as a result of hearing - when i say hearing, i mean hearing with our spirits or what we call revelation (Rom. 10;17). Revelation is a spiritual thing - and it is a product of GOd speaking to us. apart from our minds, we have another faculty for knowledge which is in our spirits and is called the intuition; we KNOW with our spirits, we UNDERSTAND with our minds. Philosophically speaking, the mind in the true sense cannot KNOW anything, that is why mental knowledge is probabilistic - how can we be ever be SURE logic itself is real? our minds could be deceiving us. However, thank God we have spirits and it is in this part of our being that we 'hear' and know GOd. SO faith is a spiritual and consequently mental accent to God's truth. In other words, faith is being sure that what God says is true, certain and will prove itself in our experience. Therefore,  what we can logically infer from that is that people who don't have faith are those who haven't heard God (sometimes because they hardened their hearts to his voice) and who thus don't have a revelation knowledge of God's word or who have the knowledge but don't accept it as superior to their experience and thus disobey Him(Heb.3;12-19).
So you see biblical definition of faith is exclusive, it is only found in biblical christianity; it is not found elsewhere. There are very few people that have this kind of faith, and it is not automatic ie you can be called a 'christian' and still not have biblical faith. I'd really suggest you read Hebrews 11. Cheers.

- the Bible promises that I will never enter HELL as a child of God; whereas the Qur'an in Sura 19:71 promises EVERY Muslim must enter HELL - it is an inevitable decree of Allah!!

I will have to tell u Telly that u dare not interprete Quranic verses any how. Let me tell u the meaning of that verse u quoted:

The general interpretation is every soul must pass through or by or over the fire(I believe this was your interpretation though you used ENTER not through,by or over).
Those who have Taqwa(faith) will be saved by Allah's mercy(I pray everyone reading will be among Amin), while unrepentant sinners will suffer the torments in ignomity(I pray everyone reading dont fall part Amin). Also if we refer(he pronoun "you" to those "in obsinate rebellion" in verse 19:69 above, both leaders and followers in sin, this verse only applies to the wicked.

But am not surprised by your interpretation because Allah said:
"And lo ! there is a party of them who distort the Scripture with their tongues, that ye may think that what they say is from the Scripture, when it is not from the Scripture.And they say:It is from Allah, when it is not from Allah; and they speak a lie concerning Allah knowingly". Q 3:78

I pray that those that dont know why they are in their religion find a reason and if they dont find the reason or are not convinced then may Allah open their eyes to Islam.

i have to laugh because there are no christians on this thread. Sorry mister poster , maybe just one guy is christian here (there is hope ) , the rest are hypocrites, oops maybe that means they are christians . all you will find these days are bible bashers and verse quoters. Sorry the truth must be said.

Mr Moriki,
thanks to islamic theory of "superlatives and comparatives", the real meaning of Surah 19: 71 has been distorted to give the false sense of the righteous "passing over" hell instead of the Arbery translation of "going down into it".

71 Not one of you but will pass over it: this is with thy Lord a decree which must be accomplished.

This verse (assuming it is the right translation) assumes that there is a bridge over hell. Now comes the first question;
- why must the righteous even have to pass over or see hell at all? Of what purpose is it that the alleged righteous has to see sorrow, torment, fear and anguish by passing over hell?

Now take a closer look at the oft ignored verse 72:

72 But We shall save those who guarded against evil and We shall leave the wrongdoers therein to their knees.

Unless English has lost its meaning, when the quran talks about "leaving the wrongdoers therein", it clearly connotes that they were initially in hell with a group of people who were later removed and they left there. The initial phrase talks of "we shall save those. . .", why would the quran talk of "saving" those when they are merely going to "pass over it"?

The bible's definition of hell differs greatly from this on several counts:
- there is NO bridge over hell, Luke 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

- once in hell there is no longer any hope of salvation

- the righteous can never pass through, go down into, walk over, see or be saved from hell. The righteous of the Lord have no business around the precincts of hell.

sisimose:

i have to laugh because there are no christians on this thread. Sorry mister poster , maybe just one guy is christian here (there is hope ) , the rest are hypocrites, oops maybe that means they are christians . all you will find these days are bible bashers and verse quoters. Sorry the truth must be said.

I'm very curious - how do you know who the Christian is and who isn't a Christian?

All this talk about what religion is ''best''?

Like most of you have actually been exposed to every single religion. You only absorb the religion that's native to your region. If outsiders had never brought Islam and Christianity to Naija we won't even be talking about this.
None of you would believe in Christianity if it wasnt for slavery and colonialism.

You are all christians not because u decided to become christians but because that was the religion that was indoctrinated into your brains from a very young age. If yuor parents were muslims and u were all brought up in a country like Saudi Arabia do you think u would be worshipping Christianity or Islam?

manmustwac:

You are all christians not because u decided to become christians but because that was the religion that was indoctrinated into your brains from a very young age. If yuor parents were muslims and u were all brought up in a country like Saudi Arabia do you think u would be worshipping Christianity or Islam?

!!That too^!

And it shows when you try to reason with some of them about their faith, they either get violent, or shout, STOP IT while holding their ears.
It's actually very scary and disturbing.

You guys have made up your minds. Why not ask Seun to lock?