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TheExecutioner:

Daif means "weak" not fake. And there are other similar hadiths which are graded "hasan" or "good"

Weak means fake. Weak hadith is never an evidence in matters of Islam.

Charleys:
Where polygamy is rampant, young males are left without sexual partners. Simple math shows that in a population of 10 men and 10 women, if 1 of the men has 4 wives, that leaves 6 single men. Scale that up to entire states, and you can see this playing out across the North.

So wars and destabilization give young men a chance to kill potential rivals (ie, other men) and seize or rape women.

polygamous societies suffer “higher rates of murder, theft, rape, social disruption, kidnapping (especially of females), sexual slavery and prostitution.”

One well-known passage from the Hadith is the reward of 72 virgins given to a martyr after death. This appeals directly to a young man’s sexual desires. Martyrs are not promised a well-paying job, political peace, or economic security. They are promised sexual partners.

This is my opinion.

That's it.


In a society where women are segregated from men in public, like covering women with hijab or burqa, in some extreme cases disallow women from going out without male companion, preach 72 virgins for a Moslem matyr, the result is young people burning with libido going for rape of women.
The unfortunate thing in Nigeria is that no amount of reformation preaching can change this religious tradition.

Most unfortunate thing is that the parts of Nigeria with the tradition have refused any restructuring of the country's political process.

Worse, one Nigeria traps together the group with this tradition and others.

LegendaryLover:





Why is it easier for u guys to criticise pastors than alfas, imans ? Even in posts where muslim extremists is the case.

very simple, Muslim leaders- Alfas, Imams are useless when it come to women. Everyone knows that.

Weak means weak, fake means fake. They're two different words with two different meanings and sometimes a Hadith graded as weak by one scholar can be graded good by another, especially if other similar hadiths are already graded good or authentic.


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Babaheekmat:



Weak means fake. Weak hadith is never an evidence in matters of Islam.

Hmmm

Even great men fell from Grace to grass because of sex. Ryt from d days of old.

Infact eyaf tire me..

DonFreshmoney:
It's a lie..

The reason why people join boko haram is the promise of 72 virgins after their death... a mean do you know what 1 virgin can do not to talk of 72..

GBAM!!!

Charleys:
Where polygamy is rampant, young males are left without sexual partners. Simple math shows that in a population of 10 men and 10 women, if 1 of the men has 4 wives, that leaves 6 single men. Scale that up to entire states, and you can see this playing out across the North.

So wars and destabilization give young men a chance to kill potential rivals (ie, other men) and seize or rape women.

polygamous societies suffer “higher rates of murder, theft, rape, social disruption, kidnapping (especially of females), sexual slavery and prostitution.”

One well-known passage from the Hadith is the reward of 72 virgins given to a martyr after death. This appeals directly to a young man’s sexual desires. Martyrs are not promised a well-paying job, political peace, or economic security. They are promised sexual partners.

This is my opinion.

This opinion is worthy of discussion.
The assessments here are really interesting.

Which study did you get the polygamous society stats from?

wallezee:
How did you come to that conclusion that their mission in life is to kill those who are non Muslims? I’m guessing you’ve been reading a lot of the Quran, cause I don’t see a reason why you would attribute the behavior of some few to an entire religion. Anyone can wake up any day and do all sorts of shit in the name of religion, that doesn’t mean they are genuine believers in that particular religion. I can bet you’ve been around Muslims, can you tell me if you know of any particular Muslim that has blown up anywhere, commit murder or rape in the name of his/her religion? Those you’re making reference to are nothing but just criminals and extremists.

You have to make room for "interpretations" for your argument to be complete.

Someone can genuinely believe in a religion and indulge in violence for its sake.

All they have to do is misunderstand or misinterprete what is written.

Newnas:


See your life? You can't construct a single sentence without bitterness, hate and insult. So much for religious tolerance and love.

By the way, polygamy is a Yoruba culture. Your fathers have been marrying dozens of wives before Islam entered your lands.

Also, we know what your hypocrite pastors do. They keep one wife and be grinding choir members and church ushers. The church is synonymous to promiscuity. And it has been so since the days of gay Catholic priests who gay on teenage boys.

It isn't mandatory to be polygamous in Islam so STFU!

You accuse one of hate speech towards a religion and then turn around and attack his with the same weapon.

What are you trying to achieve here?

He noted that the traditional way of using the military might in tackling violent extremism by the insurgents had not recorded much success and advised that the Federal Government should involve the families and religious leaders in tackling the menace of violent extremism in the country. - Deputy Dorector NDC

So if Nigeria is under attack from another country; we should involve enemies familiar to resolve the war too?
We are finish!

wallezee:
Thats simply because Christianity is doing more harm to our society than Islam does. A mosque built anywhere in Nigeria technically belongs to that community where it’s built, and not to any particular individual which is not the same with churches. A Muslim who’s new in any neighborhood in Nigeria, will simply ask if there’s any mosque where he/she can pray when it’s time for prayers but a Christian will like to know if a particular church is around, like other churches aside from his/hers worships a different God. And before you come for me, I’m a Christian.

Christians are the problem not Christianity.

There will always be people who'd misrepresent a group or collective and you cant base your judgement of the system on a misbehaving few.

Churches are denominational unlike mosques. Thats not a problem on its own.
Variances of a commodity strengthens the entire category.

Denominations are built on nuances,
Christianity permits a liberal approach to the interpretation of its holy book unlike the qoran.

Such approach will tend to produce multiple variances of the same core idea.

People just find what they are most comfortable to or believe the most and follow it.

The problem isn't with religion or its systems but its followers running a corrupt version of the gospel in their heads

Coolgent:
He noted that the traditional way of using the military might in tackling violent extremism by the insurgents had not recorded much success and advised that the Federal Government should involve the families and religious leaders in tackling the menace of violent extremism in the country. - Deputy Dorector NDC

So if Nigeria is under attack from another country; we should involve enemies familiar to resolve the war too?
We are finish!

That's not the takeaway.

Tackling terrorism effectively would be a mixture of social engineering and a more tactical military engagement.

Using force will only strengthen them, how may of them do you want to kill? They will spurn new warriors and this shit will never end.

Its the ideology behind their actions that needs to be killed.

What does an individual have to believe to engage in terrorism?
This question is what needs to be answered before any more action

wallezee:
I never said there’s anything wrong in having different denominations, did you attend a night school?

A Muslim who’s new in any neighborhood in Nigeria, will simply ask if there’s any mosque where he/she can pray when it’s time for prayers but a Christian will like to know if a particular church is around, like other churches aside from his/hers worships a different God. And before you come for me, I’m a Christian.

are u not the one who made the above statement or u don't even understand what u are saying your self. u funny

bindukwe:



This opinion is worthy of discussion.
The assessments here are really interesting.

Which study did you get the polygamous society stats from?

https://www.economist.com/special-report/2016/01/21/of-men-and-mayhem


Read the political powder keg heading.

LegendaryLover:





Why is it easier for u guys to criticise pastors than alfas, imans ? Even in posts where muslim extremists is the case.

Common sense is rare

ernieboy:

are u not the one who made the above statement or u don't even understand what u are saying your self. u funny

Guess you need someone to read that comment of mine for you.

bindukwe:



That's not the takeaway.

Tackling terrorism effectively would be a mixture of social engineering and a more tactical military engagement.

Using force will only strengthen them, how may of them do you want to kill? They will spurn new warriors and this shit will never end.

Its the ideology behind their actions that needs to be killed.

What does an individual have to believe to engage in terrorism?
This question is what needs to be answered before any more action

Roger that!

Charleys:
Where polygamy is rampant, young males are left without sexual partners. Simple math shows that in a population of 10 men and 10 women, if 1 of the men has 4 wives, that leaves 6 single men. Scale that up to entire states, and you can see this playing out across the North.

So wars and destabilization give young men a chance to kill potential rivals (ie, other men) and seize or rape women.

polygamous societies suffer “higher rates of murder, theft, rape, social disruption, kidnapping (especially of females), sexual slavery and prostitution.”

One well-known passage from the Hadith is the reward of 72 virgins given to a martyr after death. This appeals directly to a young man’s sexual desires. Martyrs are not promised a well-paying job, political peace, or economic security. They are promised sexual partners.

This is my opinion.

Very remote logic

Coolgent:
He noted that the traditional way of using the military might in tackling violent extremism by the insurgents had not recorded much success and advised that the Federal Government should involve the families and religious leaders in tackling the menace of violent extremism in the country. - Deputy Dorector NDC

So if Nigeria is under attack from another country; we should involve enemies familiar to resolve the war too?
We are finish!

Your own inference doesn’t derive from his argument.

Firstly, the traditional use military is to crush the enemy if necessary totally because everyone on the opposing side is seen as enemy.

USA carpet bombed Afghanistan and Iraq in the wake of terror attack in US and even overthrew their governments. Why didn’t it use the same military strategy on its own soil against the terrorists? Simple answer is that it has to be selective in identifying and punishing the terrorists on its own soil something that is not required of it against an enemy nation that it declared war against which the military is best suited for.

Same thing is happening in UK and France.

Secondly, if you read his whole article, he did not rule out military response entirely, he only said it should be complimented with other strategies.
Military is able to take on the Boko Haram in sambisa forest (even though with some restrictions because of innocent hostages), do you advocate such bombing of Maiduguri metropolis for instance even though it is well known that the terrorists have infiltrated the civilian in the city?