maynation:


Lol.
We all were actually until we found Christ.

Christ was a mislim

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OgaBuhari:
Islam and illiteracy.
u Muslim dumb heads need help

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No you need help. Badly

banhammy:

God bless you for this comments.
Yorubas are liberal when it comes to issue of religion.
They are not fanatics like Igbo and Hausa people.
Yorubas don't base relationship or respect on religion believe, unlike Igbo and Hausa people who worship their pastors and imam.
That's why there's no room for religion extremesim in Yoruba land. No Boko Haram, no IPOB .
You can't hide under religion to perpetuate crime. You will be exposed.
Anthony Joshua has both Muslims and Christians siblings. That's a typical Yoruba family for you.
Igbo doesn't tolerate Muslims while Hausa has no regard for Christians.
I respect Yoruba people for that one.

I hope you realise that both of those 2 ethnic groups you are abusing could turn your own tribalism back on you and claim that that "liberal" tribe you are exalting could also be seen as FICKLE, INDECISIVE and WISHY-WASHY by your own standard.

Having a belief and sticking to it does not make you a fanatic.

Complaining of marginalisation and agitating for sovereignty on that basis does not make one a religious extremist. Do IPOB go about blowing people up? They may be extremists, but not religious extremists.

We all know of plenty of examples of people outside of Igbo and Hausa who "worship" their pastors and imams.

Codswallop

saraki2019:
Christ was a mislim

Christ was a Jew

Them wan smuggle am enter the religion of terrorism and remove peace from his life

midnighter:




It is ambiguous to you because you have not understood the unfathomable chasm between God and sin, and by extension, between God and US.

God cannot abide with sin. God cannot cope with sin. God cannot tolerate sin in His presence, even though He loves us more than we could ever imagine. He loves the sinner and yet hates the sin.

There is nothing like mercy when it comes to immiscible quantities. Oil and water do not mix. Parallel lines can never meet. God cannot meet with sin. How far can mercy take you? How much mercy can God dole out, when you sin almost every moment of every day, sometimes without even knowing?

To solve the problem, to bridge the gap, God humbled and condescended Himself by taking on our frail human form, yet He remained totally sinless. Thus making Himself a perfect candidate for redeeming us and COMPENSATING for the terrible debt we owe for our failure to keep His law. His perfect law!

This is what I mean by washing a dirty cloth clean with soap.

All the ablution, animal sacrifice and IMPERFECT HUMAN EFFORT in the world cannot make up for our FLAWED HUMAN NATURE.

Can dirt remove dirt from a cloth? When you spill palm oil on a cloth, what do you use to remove it? More palm oil?

Or soap?

With all honesty, you post is confusing to me.

First you said I have not understood the unfathomable chasm...

if it's unfathomable, then how can I understand it? How did you understand it?

Secondly, what exactly is your point in the next paragraphs? Do you mean that we human beings are so sinless and cannot make heaven and we need God to come and die for our sins to be washed away before we can?

And then as for your sentences saying how much mercy can God dole out or how much of His mercy can save someone... I'm sorry it's like you are limiting God. God's mercy is infinite! As in, it has no end. I'm sure you must have heard Muslims saying something like "Allaah in His infinite mercy". His mercy is infinite! So you saying how much of his mercy can He dole out implies limitation. He can dole out as much as He wills!

Then as for your last paragraphs.

You mentioned Ablution, sacrifice and imperfect efforts and then you said something like can dirt clean dirt?

Does that mean you are equating all those acts of worship (that are meant to be holy or virtuous) as DIRT?

Or what exactly do you mean?

And please when u want to explain this time, Kindly do so in a manner that will be easy to understand.

I had a hard time understanding the whole thing you typed there really.

SmellingAnus:
Lol... I was never a Muslim... Truth is we have some good Muslims both in the North and the South... It's just that the activities of some Islamic Terrorists are making it look like we don't have a good and peaceful Muslim...

Definitely. At the same time I dont think the Islamic world is doing enough to curtail the spread of extreme ideology and belief.

The propaganda coming out from Saudi Arabia doesnt seem to have much resistance, from what I am seeing.

IAmStrange:


First you said I have not understood the unfathomable chasm...

if it's unfathomable, then how can I understand it? How did you understand it?

Unfathomable means "immeasurable"

Understand first that sin puts an immense distance between human beings and God.

Therein lies the answer to your subsequent queries.

musicwriter:


I am not talking of today but about the origin of international terrorism. However, I hope you heard that muslims recently bombed a church in New Zealand, while christians bombed a mosque in Ski lanka. Borth are terrorists.

Let me have the name of the Christian terrorist organisation that bombed the mosque and their Leader. If you need the names of Leaders of ISIS in Syria and Irag,, boko haram in Nigeria , al-shabab in Somalia, ISWAP in West Africa, Islamic jihad in Gaza let me know. Also let me know if the Christians that bombed the church were bombing for Jesus or that Jesus taught them to bomb and kill for him as found in one other religion

TheFacelessMan:


Not somewhat. VERY misleading.

The OP is very well known for derailing threads and selectively reporting neutral comments.

Sorry?

midnighter:


Unfathomable means "immeasurable"

Understand first that sin puts an immense distance between human beings and God.

Therein lies the answer to your subsequent queries.

Okay oo! I've heard! But Imes is coming sha

midnighter:




It is ambiguous to you because you have not understood the unfathomable chasm between God and sin, and by extension, between God and US.

God cannot abide with sin. God cannot cope with sin. God cannot tolerate sin in His presence, even though He loves us more than we could ever imagine. He loves the sinner and yet hates the sin.

There is nothing like mercy when it comes to immiscible quantities. Oil and water do not mix. Parallel lines can never meet. God cannot meet with sin. How far can mercy take you? How much mercy can God dole out, when you sin almost every moment of every day, sometimes without even knowing?

To solve the problem, to bridge the gap, God humbled and condescended Himself by taking on our frail human form, yet He remained totally sinless. Thus making Himself a perfect candidate for redeeming us and COMPENSATING for the terrible debt we owe for our failure to keep His law. His perfect law!

This is what I mean by washing a dirty cloth clean with soap.

All the ablution, animal sacrifice and IMPERFECT HUMAN EFFORT in the world cannot make up for our FLAWED HUMAN NATURE.

Can dirt remove dirt from a cloth? When you spill palm oil on a cloth, what do you use to remove it? More palm oil?

Or soap?

As a Christian the one thing I have always battled with the saying the son of God can to die for mankind!

This just doesn't sit well.with me , because in the same.bible it is said he prayer father forgive them for they no not what they do!

This sounds like an intercession prayer for forgives me, so if there is a prayer for forgiveness then there was a crime ..


I just can't figure that part out and it bugs the hell out of me..

For me Jesus was murdered in cold blood and didn't. Come to die for anyone

southpole:
Let me have the name of the Christian terrorist organisation that bombed the mosque and their Leader. If you need the names of Leaders of ISIS in Syria and Irag,, boko haram in Nigeria , al-shabab in Somalia, ISWAP in West Africa, Islamic jihad in Gaza let me know. Also let me know if the Christians that bombed the church were bombing for Jesus or that Jesus taught them to bomb and kill for him as found in one other religion

I think I just told you I am not talking about today but about a time when christianity was a terrorist organization. Do you need 16th century quotes of where Jesus was used to justify terrorism？

livebyday:


As a Christian the one thing I have always battled with the saying the son of God can to die for mankind!

This just doesn't sit well.with me , because in the same.bible it is said he prayer father forgive them for they no not what they do!

This sounds like an intercession prayer for forgives me, so if there is a prayer for forgiveness then there was a crime ..
I just can't figure that part out and it bugs the hell out of me..

For me Jesus was murdered in cold blood and didn't. Come to die for anyone

Yeah, He died for our crimes. Whats the problem?

He was murdered in cold blood and came to die for us. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

So if it this one, we don’t need a stupid declaration to read Islam...

So testimony is worth daring after all....

midnighter:


Definitely. At the same time I dont think the Islamic world is doing enough to curtail the spread of extreme ideology and belief.

The propaganda coming out from Saudi Arabia doesnt seem to have much resistance, from what I am seeing.

True dear...

Sikay19:

Islam is a blessing. I am proud to be a muslim, Mansha Allah.

Islamabad.

midnighter:


Yeah, He died for our crimes. Whats the problem?

He was murdered in cold blood and came to die for us. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

See here's the thing

The modern christian faith is hinged on the belief that this suicide is pre destined and some.how absolves one of Sims committed daily as long as on Sunday you cry Jesus died for me and boom you and clean again , then next week rinse and repeat

Now doesn't this week oddly convincing and encouraged a sort of care free immoral lifestyle?

I mean ,let's face it Christianity some times just looks like a joke... No one takes responsibility for their actions because, Christ committed suicide for it

I think this lie was intentionally written to suite this purpose of a life of ease there by giving the church supremacy

maynation:


Lol.
We all were actually until we found Christ.

U don't seem to be intelligent. Every muslim believes in Christ. In fact his faith is failed without believing in Christ.. the Messiah.

musicwriter:


I think I just told you I am not talking about today but about a time when christianity was a terrorist organization. Do you need 16th century quotes of where Jesus was used to justify terrorism？

what was the time? Give us the facts and don't base your arguement on those Islamic lies they taught you just to pain Christianity black. For your information Christians and Christianity have never been terrorists. If right inside you, you truly want to go to heaven then leave the Islam. Any god that promised 72 virgins after death is a scam. Make your decision before it is too late. They plagiarized the stories in the Bible and distorted them to form the Qur'an to deceive millions of people. Why is it that only Mohammed heard from God no any human again in the Muslim world? Why is it that there was no witness when Mohammed claimed he received revelation from God unlike we have in Christianity. Certainly Islam is not the way.

IAmStrange:
Secondly, what exactly is your point in the next paragraphs? Do you mean that we human beings are so sinless and cannot make heaven and we need God to come and die for our sins to be washed away before we can?

Yes! Thats exactly what it means. Going by your own efforts, you cannot make heaven. You need help. We all need help. We all need arbitration

IAmStrange:
And then as for your sentences saying how much mercy can God dole out or how much of His mercy can save someone... I'm sorry it's like you are limiting God. God's mercy is infinite! As in, it has no end. I'm sure you must have heard Muslims saying something like "Allaah in His infinite mercy". His mercy is infinite! So you saying how much of his mercy can He dole out implies limitation. He can dole out as much as He wills!

I am not limiting God. I am saying that it is against the very nature of God to abide with sin. This is why I used the oil and water illustration.

Am I insulting the oil by saying it cannot stay with water or am I just stating a simple fact?

IAmStrange:
You mentioned Ablution, sacrifice and imperfect efforts and then you said something like can dirt clean dirt?

Does that mean you are equating all those acts of worship (that are meant to be holy or virtuous) as DIRT?

This is the point. Those acts of worship are wonderful, but the entities performing them are not.

If you encounter a madman on the road, covered in mud and dust, and he offers you a loaf of bread, will you collect it?

If your darling husband/wife comes to meet you and offers you the same size and type of bread, will you equally collect it?

IAmStrange:
Okay oo! I've heard! But Imes is coming sha

Who is "Imes"? I keep seeing it but I dont know what it means

Jarus:
Many people will start “de-liking” him now

We have many fanatics in this part of the world. Anything about Islam is their headache.

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Jaapu:

And Christ doesn't even know you exist.

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maynation:


Lol.
We all were actually until we found Christ.

You dey owe me explanation. Yhu b Fulani not afonja...I'm just kidding nation...lolz

livebyday:
See here's the thing

The modern christian faith is hinged on the belief that this suicide is pre destined and some.how absolves one of Sims committed daily as long as on Sunday you cry Jesus died for me and boom you and clean again , then next week rinse and repeat

Now doesn't this week oddly convincing and encouraged a sort of care free immoral lifestyle?

I mean ,let's face it Christianity some times just looks like a joke... No one takes responsibility for their actions because, Christ committed suicide for it

I think this lie was intentionally written to suite this purpose of a life of ease there by giving the church supremacy

Exactly! But if you really appreciated the sacrifice God made for you in the so-called suicide, how He humiliated and debased Himself for your sake, then you wouldnt do those immoral things, would you?

If actually you called yourself a Christian, you would go out of your way to avoid doing those things that He had asked you not to do, knowing the pains He suffered to get you out of this mess.

Just like you try not to irritate your parents, knowing how they toiled and suffered for your sake. It doesnt mean you wont at times slip up and disobey them, but acting out of love for your parents, you would try not to.

NOT to buy your parents' love, affection and acceptance, because you know you already have those, because they have SHOWN these through their ACTIONS concerning you.

Now, you know that your parents will forgive you when you mess up, but will you keep hurting them just because you have that knowledge? If you really love those people, the answer to that question should be a RESOUNDING "NO".

But you perform particular acts -and refrain from performing other ones- purely out of love, to show your devotion to those people who sacrificed so much for your sake.

maynation:


Lol.
We all were actually until we found Christ.

u are shaking a table already oo, Lol

Maj196:
Make thunder scatter your left scrotum there... Oponu osshi

that's why I'm not surprised cos your comments here makes no difference between you, Iswap, ISIS and Boko Haram TERRORISTS.

southpole:
what was the time? Give us the facts and don't base your arguement on those Islamic lies they taught you just to pain Christianity black. For your information Christians and Christianity have never been terrorists. If right inside you, you truly want to go to heaven then leave the Islam. Any god that promised 72 virgins after death is a scam. Make your decision before it is too late. They plagiarized the stories in the Bible and distorted them to form the Qur'an to deceive millions of people. Why is it that only Mohammed heard from God no any human again in the Muslim world? Why is it that there was no witness when Mohammed claimed he received revelation from God unlike we have in Christianity. Certainly Islam is not the way.

Be informed that I am not a member of any religion.

Neither christianity nor Islam is the way. Both are nonsense.

midnighter:


Exactly! But if you really appreciated the sacrifice God made for you in the so-called suicide, how He humiliated and debased Himself for your sake, then you wouldnt do those immoral things, would you?

If actually you called yourself a Christian, you would go out of your way to avoid doing those things that He had asked you not to do, knowing the pains He suffered to get you out of this mess.

Just like you try not to irritate your parents, knowing how they toiled and suffered for your sake. It doesnt mean you wont at times slip up and disobey them, but acting out of love for your parents, you would try not to.

NOT to buy your parents' love, affection and acceptance, because you know you already have those, because they have SHOWN these through their ACTIONS concerning you.

Now, you know that your parents will forgive you when you mess up, but will you keep hurting them just because you have that knowledge? If you really love those people, the answer to that question should be a RESOUNDING "NO".

But you perform particular acts purely out of love, to show your devotion to those people who sacrificed so much for your sake.

Okay I see your point

But here's the thing "thou shall not kill"
There's no where suicide is permitted

I don't believe he was meant to die I think he was murdered because he came.to.shift emphasis from the church to your deeds and life style

He never preached in large auditoriums or citadel's instead he opted to preach in the hill sides and gardens

The church had him killed just as they would today

If suddenly he came and started preaching in the open fields there by making all the churches like dunamis, Christ embassy and winner chapel large auditoriums will be empty this same.churches will unit and go and meet buhari and tell him to arrest him that this man is planning Biafra

Truth is the concept of today's church is anti christian

This isn't the way of life our Lord Jesus wanted for us ... And this is what gets me tired of Christianity

I feel I should be accountable for my choices , not telling me as long as I believe and make mnimal effort I am assured of paradise ..

What does attending church have to do with my.spiritual.life or what does accepting Jesus have to do with the pains if lives damaged by a corrupt politicians deeds ?

Lemme guess according to christian logic on today's church if Hitler suddenly accepted Jesus before he died he is saved ?

Wow he goes to heaven? Wow!!!

What happened to the 6 million Jews he killed ?

Some.familes wiped out ? Some homes broken forever due to both parents getting killed

I guess they're not important because all we care about is the man who has accepted Jesus

And if for example those families didn't believe in Jesus they will all burn in hel
If let's say some.kids whose parents where killed by hitleer had to enter crime to survive they will burn in hell even though it wasn't their fault?

That's rubbish

Cajal:
..but he has Christ in his life also
in fact his faith is failed without believing in Christ.. the Messiah

No,he DOESN'T!
Everyone who has Christ IN his life believes and follows him.Christ had a type of life called Zoe which is interpreted 'abundant life's or 'eternal life'.No Muslim has it.
To say I know North Korea or believe North Korea is not the SAME as i inbibe the virtues,culture and belief system of North Korea.

Siralgebra04:

U don't seem to be intelligent. Every muslim believes in Christ. In fact his faith is failed without believing in Christ.. the Messiah.

Don't believe an illusion.Get perfect knowledge.

saraki2019:

Christ was a mislim

The one you know was not the one that IS.
Christ has nothing to do with Islam.