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2011: Northern Governors plot against Atiku... by balo(m): 11:33am On Nov 27, 2010
2011: Northern Governors plot against Atiku, Nyako, Lamido, Warmakko, lead attack
…IBB's Camp unhappy with Ogbeh, Jemibewon


Few days after the Adamu Ciroma led committee picked ex Vice President, Atiku Abubakar as the ‘northern consensus candidate’, a fresh plot is brewing among his peers with the intention of throwing spanner in the works for him.

Before the vote, the four aspirants, Atiku, Ibrahim Babangida, Bukola Saraki and Aliyu Gusau had grossly polarized the north.

Atiku, who knocked out Babangida, Saraki, and Gusau, is facing formidable opposition from some northern Governors who feel the criteria that gave him the number one spot was skewed to favor him.

According to reports, Babangida got three votes from Magaji Dambata, Adamu Ciroma and Senator Jibrin Salihu; Atiku got four from Bello Kurfi, Ambassador Mamman Anka, Baba Yaro and Ex police chief, MD Yusuf. Saraki got the backing of Audu Ogbeh and David Jemibewon.

Meanwhile, Pointblanknews.com learnt that the Babangida camp is presently unhappy with Ogbeh and Jemibewon for what it tagged betrayal, since according to them, the duos membership of the committee was influenced by the gap toothed General.

According To our source” the IBB camp is very unhappy with Ogheh and Jemibewon. It was Babangida who ensured the got spots on that committee, with the understanding that they would join Ciroma, Dambata and co to pick the nomination.”

Pointblanknews.com gathered that Ogheh who had earlier promised the Babangida camp and Ciroma to vote for the former military President, pushed for a secret ballot to shroud his preference for Saraki.
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Pointblanknews.com learnt that Adamawa Governor, Murtala Nyako, Jigawa helmsman, Sule Lamido, Isa Yuguda of Bauchi and Sokoto’s Aliyu Wamako, are leading the assault.

This is coming on the heels of the resolve of the Adamawa PDP not to recognize Atiku as the northern candidate.

According to our sources, the trio of Nyako, Waramako, and Lamido have met three times since Atiku was announced. Tagged the G3, they met last Monday night in Dutse, the Jigawa capital. The previous meetings held in Yola and Sokoto. Yuguda joined lately.

Pointblanknews.com sources hinted that the grouse of the quartet which is reaching out to other colleagues is that Atiku is not a loyal member of the Peoples Democratic Party(PDP).

According to them, Atiku forced his way back into the party, arm twisted the national leadership into giving him a waiver, even when his state chapter was reluctant.

Another very curious issue raised by the quartet is the Jefferson bribery scandal involving Atiku, but the pro Atiku camp dismissed the issue, pointing out that Babangida has heavier and more slimy baggage in June 12 annulment, death of Dele Giwa and the gulf war wind fall.

Our sources said Nyako has vowed to stop Atiku and take all his loyalists, including Governors and National Assembly members to the President Goodluck Jonathan’s camp.

Deputy Director of the Babangida campaign organization, Senator Kanti Bello recently described the choice of Atiku as mind boggling. According to him “ Atiku is not the most qualified. We trusted the Ciroma committee to pick the right candidate , but picking Atiku is beyond imagination. Babangida is my choice , he is the only one who can perform and bring us success. On wether I will back him, as a human being, I have to think about it”

Nyako who is Atiku’s political foe severally blocked attempts by Atiku to join the PDP in his home state, even after the national leadership had received him in Abuja.

Source: http://pointblanknews.com/News/os4217.html
Re: 2011: Northern Governors plot against Atiku... by Beaf: 11:58am On Nov 27, 2010
Another very curious issue raised by the quartet is the Jefferson bribery scandal involving Atiku, but the pro Atiku camp dismissed the issue, pointing out that Babangida has heavier and more slimy baggage in June 12 annulment, death of Dele Giwa and the gulf war wind fall.

Damn! How could two extremely useless types make it to the last four in the "consensus" battle?
There is an urgent need for the youth to take over leadership in the North.
Re: 2011: Northern Governors plot against Atiku... by Nobody: 4:04pm On Nov 27, 2010
Pointblanknews is now believeable and accurate.

If they report news against Jonathan some people will start claiming it did not appear on other dailies.
Re: 2011: Northern Governors plot against Atiku... by McKren(m): 4:31pm On Nov 27, 2010
Jonathan does not have the numbers to win this election. These States below are the only state Jonathan can be sure to win in PDP primaries.

Kaduna
Benue
Plateau
Abuja
Ogun
Oyo
Cross River
Akwa Ibom
Bayelsa
Rivers State
Edo
Delta
Abia
Enugu


Forget the noise by Murtala Nyako. Atiku will win Adamawa without Nyako's support. In the case of Bauchi, Isa Yuguda will delibrately support Jonathan and instruct the rest of the Political class in Bauchi to follow Atiku. Remember the deputy Governor and Lawmakers previously endorsed IBB.

The North East and North West are no go area for Jonathan believe it or not. Jonathan will not win higher share of delegates from Sokoto, Katsina, Zamfara, Kebbi, Kano. It will never happen.

In the North Central. When people make a lot of noise about North Centra and Middle belt, they forget that Babangida Aliyu's/IBB's Niger will never back Jonathan, they also forget that  Saraki's Kwara will never back Jonathan either, these men have firm control of their States.

Kogi and Nasrawa are not clear and Atiku is more likely to make inroads there.

In the SouthWest, Jonathan has Ogun State and Oyo States in the bag. The rest of South West where you have AC Governors is a free for all fight for PDP delegates and I don't see why Atiku will not get a good chunk of those delegates.

In the South South even though Tmipre Sylva and Amaechi are not truly loyal to Jonathan, the delegates may feel a duty to support Jonathan which is why I have given it to Jonathan, the full South South. But surely Atiku will pick some delegates from Delta and Edo States that will help the number stack up.

In South East, Jonathan can not win Anambra. It is pure and simple. In Imo Ohakim will certainly jump ship at the appointed time. I see Jonathan being sure of only Abia and Enugu from the South East, But Atiku will also pick up some delegates from Enugu. I believe Ebonyi will eventually follow the line of Anambra, the Anyim Pius Anyims of this world will be able to persuade the old and wise Governor Martins Elechi to follow an Atiku/Soludo ticket.

So Jonathan's numbers simply dont add up. So we are talking of only about 14 States of 36 in the bag for Jonathan, I don't know the basis of the over-confidence.
Re: 2011: Northern Governors plot against Atiku... by vigasimple(m): 4:42pm On Nov 27, 2010
McKren:

Jonathan does not have the numbers to win this election. These States below are the only state Jonathan can be sure to win in PDP primaries.

Kaduna
Benue
Plateau
Abuja
Ogun
Oyo
Cross River
Akwa Ibom
Bayelsa
Rivers State
Edo
Delta
Abia
Enugu


Forget the noise by Murtala Nyako. Atiku will win Adamawa without Nyako's support. In the case of Bauchi, Isa Yuguda will delibrately support Jonathan and instruct the rest of the Political class in Bauchi to follow Atiku. Remember the deputy Governor and Lawmakers previously endorsed IBB.

The North East and North West are no go area for Jonathan believe it or not. Jonathan will not win higher share of delegates from Sokoto, Katsina, Zamfara, Kebbi, Kano. It will never happen.

In the North Central. When people make a lot of noise about North Centra and Middle belt, they forget that Babangida Aliyu's/IBB's Niger will never back Jonathan, they also forget that Saraki's Kwara will never back Jonathan either, these men have firm control of their States.

Kogi and Nasrawa are not clear and Atiku is more likely to make inroads there.

In the SouthWest, Jonathan has Ogun State and Oyo States in the bag. The rest of South West where you have AC Governors is a free for all fight for PDP delegates and I don't see why Atiku will not get a good chunk of those delegates.

In the South South even though Tmipre Sylva and Amaechi are not truly loyal to Jonathan, the delegates may feel a duty to support Jonathan which is why I have given it to Jonathan, the full South South. But surely Atiku will pick some delegates from Delta and Edo States that will help the number stack up.

In South East, Jonathan can not win Anambra. It is pure and simple. In Imo Ohakim will certainly jump ship at the appointed time. I see Jonathan being sure of only Abia and Enugu from the South East, But Atiku will also pick up some delegates from Enugu. I believe Ebonyi will eventually follow the line of Anambra, the Anyim Pius Anyims of this world will be able to persuade the old and wise Governor Martins Elechi to follow an [b]Atiku/Soludo ticket.[/b]So Jonathan's numbers simply dont add up. So we are talking of only about 14 States of 36 in the bag for Jonathan, I don't know the basis of the over-confidence.


It is clear that Atiku is your man fro the above analsysis, unfortunately, SOLUDO has no political machinery to deliver his own state and how can he be choosen as the number 2 man.

In my humble opinion, GEJ has locked all the South vote, and only need to pick some state in the North to offset Kwara, maybe kogi state that are supposseed to be in the North. Don't mind that some states are in ACN and APGA in the south, the will still likely vote GEJ in Presidential election.

ATIKU cannot win despite all his noise, ask OBJ why 'he dey laugh' grin grin grin
Re: 2011: Northern Governors plot against Atiku... by excanny: 4:45pm On Nov 27, 2010
krendo:

Pointblanknews is now believeable and accurate.

If they report news against Jonathan some people will start claiming it did not appear on other dailies.



That's classic bigotry for you.

What about Jonathan's wife who was also accused of money laundering while he was serving as Bayelsa governor?
Re: 2011: Northern Governors plot against Atiku... by McKren(m): 4:58pm On Nov 27, 2010
vigasimple:

It is clear that Atiku is your man fro the above analsysis, unfortunately, SOLUDO has no political machinery to deliver his own state and how can he be choosen as the number 2 man.

In my humble opinion, GEJ has locked all the South vote, and only need to pick some state in the North to offset Kwara, maybe kogi state that are supposseed to be in the North. Don't mind that some states are in ACN and APGA in the south, the will still likely vote GEJ in Presidential election.

ATIKU cannot win despite all his noise, ask OBJ why 'he dey laugh' grin grin grin

I think you are confusing PDP primaries with General Elections.

You have no clue what went on in Anambra State election so lets not go there.

The PDP delegates and machinery in Anambra are under the firm control of Ekwueme and Soludo and there is nothing Jonathan can do about that before PDP primaries.

Soludo lost election to a sitting incumbent Governor who had the capacity to rig himself for office extension (It is the old Nigerian story and says nothing new). It says nothing about Soludo's popularity in the South East and believe it or not Soludo is the crown prince of South East politics. Ekwueme is simply trying to pass the baton/torch light to him.

Jonathan will certainly fail becuase only a master of Politics can lock the votes of the South as you want to suggest. Folks in the South know that Jonathan is not brilliant enough for the office he occupies and we certainly need better. Atiku is surely better than Jonathan.

The wonderful economic team of the OBJ era was put together by Atiku, from El-Rufai to Ribadu to Okonjo-iweal to Soludo. Most of these people were sourced by Atiku and he was head of the economic team before he unfortunately engaged in his senseless fight with OBJ.

Jonathan is a disgrace to the office he occupies.
Re: 2011: Northern Governors plot against Atiku... by McKren(m): 5:07pm On Nov 27, 2010
OBJ's I dey laugh comment is his own version of no comment. OBJ knows how skillful Atiku is politically.

he knows that Atiku is certainly no pushover
Re: 2011: Northern Governors plot against Atiku... by marvix(m): 5:32pm On Nov 27, 2010
McKren:

I think you are confusing PDP primaries with General Elections.

You have no clue what went on in Anambra State election so lets not go there.

The PDP delegates and machinery in Anambra are under the firm control of Ekwueme and Soludo and there is nothing Jonathan can do about that before PDP primaries.

Soludo lost election to a sitting incumbent Governor who had the capacity to rig himself for office extension (It is the old Nigerian story and says nothing new). It says nothing about Soludo's popularity in the South East and believe it or not Soludo is the crown prince of South East politics. Ekwueme is simply trying to pass the baton/torch light to him.

Jonathan will certainly fail becuase only a master of Politics can lock the votes of the South as you want to suggest. Folks in the South know that Jonathan is not brilliant enough for the office he occupies and we certainly need better. Atiku is surely better than Jonathan.

The wonderful economic team of the OBJ era was put together by Atiku, from El-Rufai to Ribadu to Okonjo-iweal to Soludo. Most of these people were sourced by Atiku and he was head of the economic team before he unfortunately engaged in his senseless fight with OBJ.

Jonathan is a disgrace to the office he occupies.

How could u believe the bolded portion and now expect that they would be able to useat an incumbent in a primaries
Re: 2011: Northern Governors plot against Atiku... by McKren(m): 5:42pm On Nov 27, 2010
marvix:

How could u believe the bolded portion and now expect that they would be able to useat an incumbent in a primaries

I wont explain the difference to you ok?

When you understand Nigerian politics you will understand the difference between PDP Primaries and General elections.

After the PDP primaries the picture will be clearer to you.
Re: 2011: Northern Governors plot against Atiku... by vigasimple(m): 8:04pm On Nov 27, 2010
McKren:

I wont explain the difference to you ok?

When you understand Nigerian politics you will understand the difference between PDP Primaries and General elections.

After the PDP primaries the picture will be clearer to you.

I think you miss the whole political drama.

me too ' I DEY LAUGH'


Soludo is not heir apparent to anything in the South East. We all now know that majority of his so called banking reforms are 'IBRU AND BANK CEO'S ENRICHMENT PROGRAMM'

The SE knows that they will be commiting political suicide to allow any Northerner to be a the head of the ticket.  Why not SOLUDO/ATIKU in 2011, why must indigbo wait until 2011. The closest an Igbo will get to Presidency for now is GEJ, and Ohanaze Indigbo knows that, and they have cast their net appopriately.

There will be magomago but GEJ in the end will muscle hmself in. If Obi can do that in Anambra with all the power of PDP and Soludo's CBN ill gotten money did not stop OBI then forget it ATIKU is toated, he is afterall a Northern consesus candidate.
Re: 2011: Northern Governors plot against Atiku... by excanny: 8:40pm On Nov 27, 2010
^^^

There's little doubt that you are have no clue when it comes to politics. And it amazes me more why you have made up your mind not to learn anything, even when it is been made clearer for you.

In it is too difficult for you to grasp, let me break it down for you. The SE's calculation benefits both ways. The support for Jonathan counts if he wins. If he loses they have a VP in the person of Soludo.

You want a Suludo/Atiku, but then you fail to look at circumstances and political experience of the duo. You forget that Atiku has been in mainstream politics as far back as the early 90's, had contested party primaries against the likes of MKO in SDP, has been the governor of Adamawa state, had been a Vice-President, defeated the likes of IBB in a recent consensus candidate contest.

What experience and achievement does Soludo have that Atiku will now become his running mate?

You make me laugh in tongues, my friend. grin

Unlike you, Soludo is willing to learn under the likes of Ekwueme and Atiku. The wise person starts from somewhere and climbs to the top. That's why only a naive person would suggest that Atiku should vice a green hound like Soludo. That is political stu.pidity in the current circumstances.
Re: 2011: Northern Governors plot against Atiku... by McKren(m): 9:07pm On Nov 27, 2010
vigasimple:

I think you miss the whole political drama.

me too ' I DEY LAUGH'


Soludo is not heir apparent to anything in the South East. We all now know that majority of his so called banking reforms are 'IBRU AND BANK CEO'S ENRICHMENT PROGRAMM'

The SE knows that they will be commiting political suicide to allow any Northerner to be a the head of the ticket. Why not SOLUDO/ATIKU in 2011, why must indigbo wait until 2011. The closest an Igbo will get to Presidency for now is GEJ, and Ohanaze Indigbo knows that, and they have cast their net appopriately.

There will be magomago but GEJ in the end will muscle hmself in. If Obi can do that in Anambra with all the power of PDP and Soludo's CBN ill gotten money did not stop OBI then forget it ATIKU is toated, he is afterall a Northern consesus candidate.

You have no clue about SouthEast Politics.

And by the way we know about Soludo's recods. Any honest persons know the difference between the Banking system Soludo met and the Banking system Soludo left. Tell me Soludo did not leave the Banks and CBN far better than he met it and I will show you a liar.

On Anambra elections, do not believe everything you see on face value. There was a conspiracy to stop Soludo and that conspiracy was deep.
Jonathan Goodluck, Dora Akunyili and Peter Obi had common interest to stop Soludo. So Soludo had the Presidency against him especially a new acting President who believed that the only way to guarantee his political future was to undermine anyone who may become an obstacle even if it meant to the detrimeant of the people of Anambra and his party.
Dora Akunyili on her own had an ambition to takeover PDP machinery but unfortunately she does not have the personality to succeed politically.
Maurice Iwu on his own dislikes Soludo with a passion and the two Professors never agreed on anything.
Ojukwu on his own has no choice but to support his party and Peter Obi was doing relatively OK but certainly does not have what it takes to take Anambra to the next level.
Peter Obi on his part succeeded in using State media ABS to remind Anambra people the attrocities of PDP under Chris Uba. But unfortunately for Soludo even he had fought galantly to rid Anambra PDP of the Ubas, he was still purnished for the sins of PDP.

This is why Soludo in his concession speech decried what he described as conspiracy to stop Soludo by all means.

But all of this misfortune does not negate the fact that in the hearts of the Igbos Prof Chukwuma Soludo is a prince and trust me the inclusion of Soludo on Atiku's ticket will certainly better his fortune in the South East.

remember what we are talking about here is PDP primaries and an Anambra PDP under the leadership of Ekwueme and Soludo will certainly deliver Anambra to their ticket.

Ndigbo are not fools. We certainly know fools when we see one. Jonathan Goodluck does not have leadership qualities and on the 11th hour a lot of Igbos will see through this and change camps starting with the Imo State political establishment.

It is amazing that you are celebrating a situation where Jonathan muscles his way through. You guys don't support free and fair elections anymore? you don't support rule of law anymore? These are the same people not too long ago that were shouting rule of law and exposing the hypocrisy of the Yar'adua Government. All of a sudden because a Southerner is now President you all want to approve politics of anything goes.
Re: 2011: Northern Governors plot against Atiku... by Blazay(m): 4:51am On Nov 28, 2010
Watch those 'almajiris' deal with these "Dunder-headed" Southerners. cheesy


Kaduna
Benue
Plateau
Abuja
Ogun
Oyo
Cross River
Akwa Ibom
Bayelsa
Rivers State
Edo
Delta
Abia
Enugu

Gbam
Gbam
Gbamology!

OBJ states.

Forget the noise by Murtala Nyako. Atiku will win Adamawa without Nyako's support. In the case of Bauchi, Isa Yuguda will delibrately support Jonathan and instruct the rest of the Political class in Bauchi to follow Atiku. Remember the deputy Governor and Lawmakers previously endorsed IBB.

The North East and North West are no go area for Jonathan believe it or not. Jonathan will not win higher share of delegates from Sokoto, Katsina, Zamfara, Kebbi, Kano. It will never happen.


Gbam
Gbam
Gbamology!

Perfect analysis. cool
Especially where the North knows GEJ represents OBJ who cheated them by installing Yaradua as the dying stooge of a president. cheesy

Make we see where "Jega Jega" wan pass.

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