budaatum:
I doubt I'd be the only one who sees how shallow your reasoning is here. Apart from your one bad apple thinking, it hardly proves what you are trying to prove, though I'm certain those who see it your way wouldn't need convincing. We others, though, stand with MrBrownJay1's advise that you stop making yourself look highly stoopid.

budaatum:
I doubt I'd be the only one who sees how shallow your reasoning is here. Apart from your one bad apple thinking, it hardly proves what you are trying to prove, though I'm certain those who see it your way wouldn't need convincing. We others, though, stand with MrBrownJay1's advise that you stop making yourself look highly stoopid.

Martinez39:
2) CASE TWO (woman with power)
There is a reason why smart men prefer women that are very low in finance and education as wives. It's not that they hate women's success but it's because wives become toxic, disrespectful, and snubbish were they have more money than the husband and have to step in to pay the bills when the husband hits hard times. Many married men can attest to this. In this video, we see a woman who has been granted sole custody and when the father of the kids came to visit them, she and her mother (monster-in-law) ganged up against the man. To further shred the man's heart apart, the woman said "what right have you to see these children?" The mother stood in support and didn't do anything. The man maintained his calm. Here is the video (the video is 12mins long)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ1lsVKQsb0

LESSON: you never know the true colours of a woman until she has power and advantages over you. Also, during a dispute, women are not just content to be right, given undue privilege, or given a free pass. Any chance that will make them hurt your feelings deeply, they will take it even if it is very petty of them. Most will deride you to hurt you because they can and they can get away with it. Also, even if you worship women and pass laws to grant them mind-blowing privileges, you will be readily thrown under the bus by them if it's for their benefit. Don't worship women, don't think they are angels, and don't condone gynocentrism. If not, you will suffer.

MrBrownJay1:
stop writing rubbish online, it makes you look highly stoopid.....

A) so in your little mind, you assumed that the babe wanted to divorce solely because she is getting alimony and child support, and certainly not because of abuse/lack of love/ or whatever other nonsense reason that people divorce for, abi?! she is divorcing that dude solely because of money, yeah?!?!?! what else do you see in your crystal ball?!?!

B) just because a child cries does NOT mean anything... thats what children do, duh! a child would cry if you refuse to give them candies, should we now listen to kids and give them candies all day long?!?!?!

C) what has the above got do do with worshiping women?! what about LOVING women, just the same as they love us back? what about having
a healthy view on women? how fukced up must a man be to believe that all women are evil?! you need help bro!

Martinez39:
Before you insult other people's intelligence, at least don't be stupid and learn to comprehend. I never mentioned with certainty on the cause of the divorce. In fact, I used the words "as it seems". The main issue here is not what went down between the couple but why the child must be separated from the dad against his will. What kind of society does that? Is that a moral thing to do? Also, given the marital laws, let's be careful not to down play the fact that marriage is a full time business in America.

No matter what happened between the couple, its clear that the child has a good relationship with the dad or else the boy would not have desperately wanted to stay with the father. Why then separate the boy from the father? They do this because the child support and alimony goes to the mother and when it does, the court will collect their share as tax. What kind of mother must the woman be for her son to vehemently refuse staying with her? Why didn't the court take this disturbing occurrence into account? Why? It's all about the women and women are, indirectly, agents of the state with men as the disposable utility and children as pawns for child support.

Clap for yourself and please do that while looking at your vile self in the mirror. So it's okay to separate the child that wants to see his father even when they have a good relationship because "thats what children do, duh! a child would cry if you refuse to give them candies," ? Clap for your shameless self.

There is no point arguing with you. Your brain is now one and the same with the blue pill. Good bye.

Martinez39:
I have always said it that smart men don't worship women and condone gynocentrism. If you do, you are going to suffer in the system you created. Let's look at the following cases :

1) CASE ONE (gynocentrism at it's peak)
The woman in this video took her husband to the divorce court. The son in this video is a very little boy and the mother is quite young hence we can say the marriage is still young but, as it seems, the mother is pulling the trigger since she now has alimony and child support. Anyway, in this video, sole custody was unsurprisingly granted to the mother but the child didn't want to stay with the mother. On being told that he wasn't going to see his father, the child was crying and bawling his eyes out and the court staff or, perhaps, the wife's sister/relative (it wouldn't matter, they would do the same thing) were trying to console the boy but he wouldn't stop crying. The boy, while crying, made it clear that he didn't want to stay with his mother Notice that the mother never said she would let him see the father instead she tried to win the boy over by telling him she has gifts for him blah blah blah blah blah blah. Hope we can see where worshiping women and being blue pilled has led American men?

Another important question is why would a child dread staying with the mother? Here is the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx-SuKQd2nY

LESSON: Gynocentrism places women above men, children, and animals. It is all about the women. When a woman rapes a man and gets pregnant or steals his used condom and gets pregnant, the same gynocentric courts will force you to pay child support using the excuse "we have to do what is best for the child" but in the case shown in that video, the best interest of child is thrown through the window. Never join the simps in being too thirsty that they worship women and give them free passes and special privileges. Men who worship women will suffer in the hands of women and won't be spared in a gynocentrism society. Gynocentrism is all about the women. The rest are tools and pawns. Women are not fair players in the game and they are cold.

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Michellekabod2:
I disagree. I do believe patriarchy and gynocentrism does exist but we can't say the court order was a case of gynocentrism with no proof. The boy is still young to know what's best for him,so consent of the boy is not the criteria. Kids my prefer to stay with toxic parents because they don't know the repercussions. So a child consent ain't the sole criteria.
You are yet to determine the reason the court gave the order so don't conclude.

Michellekabod2:
I disagree. I do believe patriarchy and gynocentrism does exist but we can't say the court order was a case of gynocentrism with no proof. The boy is still young to know what's best for him,so consent of the boy is not the criteria. Kids my prefer to stay with toxic parents because they don't know the repercussions. So a child consent ain't the sole criteria.
You are yet to determine the reason the court gave the order so don't conclude.

KevinDein:
Martinez39

I literally read these sorts of stories and much worse in a number of sub Reddits almost on a daily basis and I cringe. How fvcking dumb were those western men that they create laws which essentially make cats and dogs have more rights than them in a society they create with their sweat and blood.

Kinda don't feel sorry for them . No sympathy for simps and white Knights and I only visit those forums if I want a laugh.

Below is a screenshot of one I read today.

Martinez39:
You and MrBrownJay1 either don't know the marital laws over there or you people are being dishonest, or both.
1) No child at that age will earnestly desire to stay with his father if the father is abusive or toxic. Children will always go to who they enjoy staying with and who treats them well. #FACTS

2) What kind of mother must that woman be for her son to insist on not staying with her? That's a key question. A serious question. If a man who close to a girl of that age and the girl reacted this way to the man, experts will suspect abuse (probably sexual abuse) but somehow, in this case, "the child is too young to know what's best for him." Any serious person who cares about the child will question the mother's relationship with the child but I guess you and MrBrownJay1 are blinded by bias favouring women. Also, we know children are usually close to their mothers while little, so why is the child vehemently refusing to stay with the mother?

3) Gynocentrism exists but the so called misogynistic patriarchy that oppresses and subjugates women is nonexistent in the west and 99.9% feminists all over the world screaming "patriarchy", "misogyny", "toxic masculinity" etc. have equal rights and opportunities as men (or even "more" rights and privileges) where they live.

MrBrownJay1:


come on bro... let me tell you a true story: i use to date a babe who had a young 2yr old child.. and after a few months of spending quality time together, the child would cry every time i left. i guess in your world, i should get custody of her child too, abi?! children cry for many different reason because thats how they show their emotion. is that a reason to believe that child would be better off with father?! absolutely not!

[s]you are wrongly assuming again that a child crying means he wants to be with dad and NOT mum...instead of assuming that the child simply dont want to be separated from either parent. kids go where they have an easy way...so sometimes they will cry and want to be with daddy when mummy refuse to give them something, and then turn around and do the opposite when daddy refuse them something. thats what KIDS DO. i am in no way favoring women, i am favoring children, and as a father of 6, i certainly know that "such tears" usually means nothing worthy.
why would you question the mother's r/ship with the child?! would you do the same if child cries everytime they have to spend time at daddy's place? come on these are kids bro![/s]

[s]i shout for what best for the child... there is no black and white here, it all has to do with childs welfare and best interest, 1st and foremost![/s]

[s]the fact that you would even expect the child to go with daddy, just because of children tears, shows us all you are not serious on this issue.[/s]

MrBrownJay1:


you see the problem in this issue is people who are quick to blame the court system, instead of blaming themselves.
if these were MATURE/INTELLIGENT adults, then they wouldnt need the court to decide who gets the kids, and instead they would sit down and discuss the matter between themselves, and after reaching an agreement, they will present it to the court as what they have decided to do with their kids.
sadly, many are blaming the court for making the decision that THEY couldnt make on their own. how laughable!

there will always be a parent that feels that they are the losing party... but sadly, thats the difficult decision tha a judge must take.

Martinez39:
You are a very stupid individual. How can you get custody over a child that's not yours biologically when the biological mother is there? Are you sure your brain is functioning properly or are you a female behind a male looking moniker? If you are female, then I don't expect honesty and rationality from you on an issue like this.

You have fallen off the bandwagon of sanity. Watch the video and see that the child stated clearly that he doesn't want to stay with the mother. So your ignorant argument that the child wanted to stay with both parents is off-point. You are not to be taken seriously if you argue stupidly in this manner. Watch the video.

Why would any woman decide to discuss things when she has the incentive to go to the divorce court and get half of his net worth, child support, and alimony? SMH. I promise not to reply you again. I have no more time to waste on people like you.

MrBrownJay1:
stop writing rubbish online, it makes you look highly stoopid.....

A) so in your little mind, you assumed that the babe wanted to divorce solely because she is getting alimony and child support, and certainly not because of abuse/lack of love/ or whatever other nonsense reason that people divorce for, abi?! she is divorcing that dude solely because of money, yeah?!?!?! what else do you see in your crystal ball?!?!

B) just because a child cries does NOT mean anything... thats what children do, duh! a child would cry if you refuse to give them candies, should we now listen to kids and give them candies all day long?!?!?!

C) what has the above got do do with worshiping women?! what about LOVING women, just the same as they love us back? what about having
a healthy view on women? how fukced up must a man be to believe that all women are evil?! you need help bro!

Martinez39:
2) CASE TWO (woman with power)
There is a reason why smart men prefer women that are very low in finance and education as wives.

Martinez39:
BONUS CASE
If a woman is a single mother and cannot provide for the child(ren), she is placed on welfare and gets provided for with taxpayers' money. What happens when a father sincerely does not have the means to pay child support?

1) A man lost his $467,000 house (leaving him homeless) and still got sent to jail for his failure to pay the amount they wanted in child support. Watch how he was humiliated in court. His sincere plea that he doesn't have the means to pull the amount they were asking fell on deaf ears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0n-iaob0rI

Martinez39:
That case is not peculiar to just that woman. It happens to a lot of men. If the mother wants, the children are cut off from the dad even against the children's will. Funny enough despite the children's desire to stay with their dad, the court will still believe the father molested the children and abused his wife if his wife says so.

Not only that, it's a common thing for men to pay child support for children that ain't their's. Even when it is proven that they are victims of paternity fraud, they still pay. I could discuss many ways of gynocentric america (from the divorce laws, alimony laws, child support laws, etc) but that's not my aim. I just wanted to say that men should stop worshipping women and condoning gynocentrism. Here are video evidences:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJJ5Z_5lllw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH9fnRnEcr0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU-pxzBl1jY


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Michellekabod2:
OK I don't support this.

MrBrownJay1:


yet you are the one who believe that a crying child is relevant to this issue, abi?



dont need to watch no deluded video... a child of such age doesnt KNOW better.... an adult with a functioning brain should know that. MOST CHILDREN WILL CRY AT TRANSITION FROM DIVORCED PARENTS



yet deluded men like yourself marry such women knowing that this IS the law in such country?!?! here is a clue: if any dumbass person (man or woman) marry in such countries, then thats what they should expect. if they have any problem with such laws in the US then they certainly shouldnt get married and have kid, duh! you have nothing intelligent to say on such issue, and instead of witing deluded rubbish, you should definitely be quiet.

your problem is NOT children crying, your problem is WOMEN...you see women as your enemy and everything they will gain in life, you will see it as a loss for you.... grow up child!

Martinez39:
I wonder where the misogynistic patriarchy is for men to go through these stuffs.

Illuminated993:
Martinez I like you, you seem like a good person.
But there are many things you are doing wrong on this forum. I'd advise you read this book "the subtle art of not giving a fucck", it might help you understand the concept of a balanced view.

ubunja:
it's not about him having a balanced view. He's stating things that are currently happening especially in the West. You may think he's being extreme but only because you may not be aware that what he's talking about is LITERALLY what is happening. And he's not even mentioning everything.

Because there are laws being planned that will further hurt men. Eg A law is being planned in Europe where, even though you didn't abuse your woman, in court YOUR PAST BEHAVIOURAL PATTERNS WITH YOUR EXES will be used against you in the current situation even though in the current situation you did not abuse anyone.

You guys don't know the shitstorm that is coming...

ubunja:
it's not about him having a balanced view. He's stating things that are currently happening especially in the West. You may think he's being extreme but only because you may not be aware that what he's talking about is LITERALLY what is happening. And he's not even mentioning everything.

Because there are laws being planned that will further hurt men. Eg A law is being planned in Europe where, even though you didn't abuse your woman, in court YOUR PAST BEHAVIOURAL PATTERNS WITH YOUR EXES will be used against you in the current situation even though in the current situation you did not abuse anyone.

You guys don't know the shitstorm that is coming...