Doctors and patients also worry that the president’s rosy outlook for the treatments will exacerbate shortages of old malaria drugs relied on by patients with lupus and other debilitating conditions.
‘Anecdotal Evidence,’ Dr. Fauci Says of Malaria Drug Claim
Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, corrected President Trump’s earlier suggestion that a malaria drug could cure coronavirus.

“Dr. Fauci, as was explained yesterday, there has been some promise with hydroxychloroquine, this potential therapy for people who are infected with coronavirus. Is there any evidence to suggest that as with malaria it might be used as a prophylaxis against Covid-19?” “No, the answer is no. And the evidence that you’re talking about, John, is anecdotal evidence. So as the commissioner of F.D.A. and the president mentioned yesterday, we’re trying to strike a balance between making something with the potential of an effect to the American people available at the same time that we do it under the auspices of a protocol that would give us information to determine if it’s truly safe and truly effective. But the information that you’re referring to specifically is anecdotal. It was not done in a controlled clinical trial. So you really can’t make any definitive statement about it.” “We all understand what the doctor said is 100% correct. It’s early, but we’ve, you know, I’ve seen things that are impressive. We’ll see. We’re going to know soon. Look — it may work and it may not work. And I agree with the doctor, what he said. May work, may not work. I feel good about it. It’s all it is, just a feeling. I’m, you know, a smart guy. I feel good about it. And we’re going to see, you’re going to see soon enough.”

At a long-winded White House briefing on Friday, President Trump enthusiastically and repeatedly promoted the promise of two long-used malaria drugs that are still unproven against the coronavirus, but being tested in clinical trials.

“I’m a smart guy,” he said, while acknowledging he couldn’t predict the drugs would work. “I feel good about it. And we’re going to see. You’re going to see soon enough.”

But the nation’s leading infectious disease expert, Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, delicately — yet forcefully — pushed back from the same stage, explaining that there was only anecdotal evidence that the drugs, chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, may be effective.

“The president feels optimistic about something, has feelings about it,” said Dr. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, emphasizing that he was a scientist. “I am saying it may be effective.”
Mr. Trump’s boosterish attitude toward the drugs has deepened worries among doctors and patients with lupus and other diseases who rely on the drugs, because the idea that the old malaria drugs could work against the coronavirus has circulated widely in recent weeks and fueled shortages that have already left people rushing to fill their prescriptions.

“Rheumatologists are furious about the hype going on over this drug,” said Dr. Michael Lockshin, of the Hospital for Special Surgery in Manhattan. “There is a run on it and we’re getting calls every few minutes, literally, from patients who are trying to stay on the drug and finding it in short supply.”
The moment of discord between Mr. Trump and one of the nation's most trusted authorities on the coronavirus was a clash between opinion and fact. It threw Mr. Trump’s faith in his own instincts into conflict with the careful, evidence-based approach of scientists like Dr. Fauci, who has held his position since the presidency of Ronald Reagan. Mr. Trump appeared eager to sweep aside long-established standards for evaluating drugs in order to champion the remedy he favours.
The excitement about the drugs is based largely on reports from China and France that they seem to help patients. But researchers and Dr. Fauci have stressed that the reports are not based on carefully controlled studies, which are the only way to be sure a treatment really works.
As word of the drugs’ possible effects have spread around the globe, demand has surged, with hospitals ordering the treatments in a desperate effort to treat severely ill patients.
Two large generic manufacturers, Teva and Mylan, have said they are ramping up production of hydroxychloroquine, and Teva has said it will donate millions of pills to the U.S. government. The sole manufacturer of chloroquine, Rising Pharmaceuticals, has also said it is increasing production. In addition, the German company Bayer announced this week it was donating millions of pills of chloroquine to the U.S. government and would seek approval from the F.D.A. for its products to be used in the United States.


Hydroxychloroquine is especially important for people with lupus, which can be life-threatening, Dr. Lockshin said. The drug can lower the risk of dying from lupus and prevent organ damage, and is considered the standard of care. If patients stop taking it after using it regularly for a long time, they can gradually become quite ill. He said it was particularly disturbing to think that people known to benefit from the drug could lose access to it because it is being diverted to a disease for which there is no solid evidence that it actually works.
“If there were justification for everyone taking it, that would be one thing,” Dr. Lockshin said. “It’s not hard to do the studies even in the midst of this crisis. We could have answers in a few weeks. But it’s being prescribed right and left.

Dana Olita, 50, of Los Angeles, raced Thursday and Friday to refill her prescription for hydroxychloroquine, which she has taken for a decade to treat rheumatoid arthritis. Her pharmacist at CVS initially told her it was unavailable; then she was told on Friday that they had located enough to fill her prescription. “There are lots of people that desperately need this, and if we stop taking it, the problem to us is overwhelming,” she said.

A spokesman for CVS said the company was “closely monitoring the global pharmaceutical manufacturing environment and working with our suppliers to ensure we can continue filling prescriptions for pharmacy patients and plan members.” The company said it had adequate stocks of hydroxychloroquine but described the supply of chloroquine as “tight” and said it was taking steps to address the issue.

“I would hope that doctors would stick to the science and try to keep a cool head,” said Dr. Percio S. Gulko, chief of the division of rheumatology at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai. “Somebody is prescribing it for people who are trying to get it, in some instances preventively. They may just be depriving the patients who do need it for an established indication, for a possibility or a speculation.”

Credit: Nytimes
www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/health/coronavirus-chloroquine-trump.html

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How has Science helped the Matter?

How has Science stopped the Death?

With all the Science people are dropping dead like Chicken ..

We keep Decieving ourselves on this Earth....

Mark my Words! That Chloroquine that President Trump talked will work not because it's a strong Medication and all that . But Because He is a Man Who Fears GOD.

GOD ALMIGHTY will make it to work

Righteousness89:
How has Science helped the Matter?

How has Science stopped the Death?

With all the Science people are dropping dead like Chicken ..

We keep Decieving ourselves on this Earth....

Mark my Words! That Chloroquine that President Trump talked will work not because it's a strong Medication and all that . But Because He is a Man Who Fears GOD.

GOD ALMIGHTY will make it to work

Don't be stupid.

Why are you using the product of science to write this message?

If you have any illness why not take it to church or better still go to Trump because as a man who fears God he would find the solution.

You are no different from Boko Haram in ideology.

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voltron14:


Don't be stupid.

Why are you using the product of science to write this message?

If you have any illness why not take it to church or better still go to Trump because as a man who fears God he would find the solution.

You are no different from Boko Haram in ideology.

[/s] Sir, Lack of Understanding is your Challenge..

Righteousness89:
[s][/s] Sir, Lack of Understanding is your Challenge..

Your statements on this forum are famous for their sheer idiocy.

Your case has to do with being a zombie.

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voltron14:


Your statements on this forum are famous for their sheer idiocy.

Your case has to do with being a zombie.

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Righteousness89:
How has Science helped the Matter?

How has Science stopped the Death?

With all the Science people are dropping dead like Chicken ..

We keep Decieving ourselves on this Earth....

Mark my Words! That Chloroquine that President Trump talked will work not because it's a strong Medication and all that . But Because He is a Man Who Fears GOD.

GOD ALMIGHTY will make it to work

You just reminded me of one Pastor that wanted to give me a Crusade advert /invitation this morning...
I kept wondering if he left his sense at home.

Corona has banned public gatherings as instituted by the government and you are planning on holding a crusade in a stadium ?? How do you guys manage your stupidity ??

How does this makes sense to you
"Mark my Words! That Chloroquine that President Trump talked will work not because it's a strong Medication and all that . But Because He is a Man Who Fears GOD.

GOD ALMIGHTY will make it to work"

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You just reminded me of one Pastor that wanted to give me a Crusade advert /invitation this morning...
I kept wondering if he left his sense at home.

Corona has banned public gatherings as instituted by the government and you are planning on holding a crusade in a stadium ?? How do you guys manage your stupidity ??

How does this makes sense to you [/s]
"Mark my Words! That Chloroquine that President Trump talked will work not because it's a strong Medication and all that . But Because He is a Man Who Fears GOD.

GOD ALMIGHTY will make it to work"[/quote]