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Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by TAO11(f): 10:42pm On Apr 20, 2020 |
googi: that boy has been made to see hell. Anyways, to expose all Bini liars as I always love to do: The Ife - Benin relationship has been documented in European writtings since as early as the 1500s and the 1600s. Reference: Dmitri M. Bondarenko: "Advent of the Second (Oba) Dynasty: Another Assessment of a Benin History Key Point", History in Africa, Vol. 30, Cambridge University Press, (2003), p.71. 6 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by gregyboy(m): 10:48pm On Apr 20, 2020 |
TAO11: Is that why you went on oblivion |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by Nobody: 12:28am On Apr 21, 2020 |
gregyboy: He claims: TAO11: Is it so hard for you to ask him to produce the texts ? This is getting to a new level of stupidity, he is claiming these texts exist and his proof is that "someone else makes that claim" ! I just don't get why you can't even ask him to produce the texts. What exactly is your reply ? The guy he is quoting is himself quoting other people. Mostly online sources and the already debunked claims. As you can very easily see the guy Dimitry knows close to nothing about Benin Kingdom. |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by gregyboy(m): 12:33am On Apr 21, 2020 |
Getsmart2: I have not yet given any not today |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by Nobody: 12:35am On Apr 21, 2020 |
gregyboy: The logical reply to his claim is that question. (Show me the texts) Instead you are asking him if that is the reason he was out ? Wtf ? The one problem in Europe is that except Egypt, they don't really put money into studies of African history. The Europeans in the field are real charlatans and lazy idiots whose work doesn't seem to be supervised. They copy things online, quote unverified sources and print stories they were told by Africans (the Europeans don't seem to know the politics being played by Africans when it come to "oral history" ) And the actual historical sources which are very much available in European libraries (perhaps not in Russia, the country of Dimitry) are not even looked at ! |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by Nobody: 12:46am On Apr 21, 2020 |
Basically, the first time ife was ever mentioned in writing is around 19th century. If any Yoruba can prove me wrong then do so! ( Produce, let us say, a 17th century document mentioning "ife") There is no precolonial text linking Benin Empire to ife ! If any Yoruba can prove me wrong, then do so ! (Produce a precolonial document linking Benin to ife). No Yoruba was called Oba in precolonial days ! If any Yoruba can prove me wrong then do so ! (Produce a precolonial text calling a Yoruba monarch oba ! For example a precolonial picture of a Yoruba monarch with its caption also precolonial and calling the Yoruba "oba" !) All this stupid dance of quoting someone whom is quoting someone whom is also quoting someone needs to stop ASAP ! Bring the actual original documents or shvt the fvck up ! |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by gregyboy(m): 1:12am On Apr 21, 2020 |
TAO11: That was a poor work you cited very poor European comfirmed the second dynasty link to ife....... Mad oo How did the Europeans confirm it, was it through writing or through looking or through trading The author didnt quote any European text and quote as reference It is left for you TAO11 to bring the European document attaining to this article Very poor work..... Lol..... I just pity tao we benins don give am assignment..... Just like telling your enemies to go fetch water for u with a basket |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by gregyboy(m): 1:21am On Apr 21, 2020 |
We benin have no connection with ife TAO11 Give up u have tried for the yorubas i swear All this ife -benin connections are political downplay I will explain further in a new thread tomorrow I hope my life is secured for exposing all this truth make the all the kings nor come find me ooh |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by TAO11(f): 1:32am On Apr 21, 2020 |
Getsmart2:Indeed, I knew those words from that academic journal article must be heart-wrenching and life-threatening for you. Anyways, you're correct! DɪmitrY knows absolutely nothing about Benin kingdom. You know why? That's because no such person as DɪmitrY exist anywhere. However, if you care to know, Dmitri (M. Bondarenko), on the other hand, is the most prolific and authoritative author on pre-colonial Benin kingdom in the world today. If he knows nothing about Benin kingdom, then literally no historian in the world today knows anything about Benin kingdom. First learn to copy and write single words correctly, before you think of berating scholars just because they wouldn't utter pro-Benin nonsense like Oba owns the land from Benin to Europe. Now crawl back into your hole. Bye! 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by TAO11(f): 1:41am On Apr 21, 2020 |
gregyboy: Of course! As soon as you submit the 1500s/1600s/1700s European documents about Benin kingdom in which we should see NO reference whatsoever to any relationship with Ife. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by TAO11(f): 1:42am On Apr 21, 2020 |
gregyboy: Well except that ... 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by Nobody: 2:29am On Apr 21, 2020 |
TAO11:Wtf ? What sense does your statement make ? You claim there are documents from the 16th century showing links between Benin empire and ife. Now the logical thing for you to do is to show the document. He is asking you to put your money where your mouth is. How dumb are you ? |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by TAO11(f): 2:37am On Apr 21, 2020 |
Getsmart2: No I didn't make any claim. 4 Likes
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Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by Nobody: 2:38am On Apr 21, 2020 |
TAO11: Look, you are clearly mentally challenged. Produce the documents or shvt up ! You are now trying to do some diversion and have the debate over if Dimitry is the most knowledgeable person about Benin Kingdom or not ! Wtf is that ? You claim some texts exist ! Then please show the texts rather than saying that "Dimitry says so and he is the most knowledgeable person about Benin Kingdom in the world !" You don't even know Dimitry ! You just found him on Google and you quoted him because he published texts which are towing the yoruba-centric line to perfection. Then you proceed to hype him as usual ! Just produce the damn texts rather than trying diversion tactics all the time. Show the 16th century texts claiming Benin Kingdom is linked to ife ! Actually let us even lower the bar: show a 16th century text even mentioning ife ! |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by Nobody: 2:42am On Apr 21, 2020 |
TAO11: So now you resort to telling lies about what you have just done ?
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Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by TAO11(f): 2:43am On Apr 21, 2020 |
Getsmart2: Moreover: Although gregyboy is evidently slow, he is, however, "smarter" than you to know why he must submit those 1500s/1600s European writtings on Benin kingdom here for verification. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by Nobody: 2:43am On Apr 21, 2020 |
TAO11:You are clearly an im.becile. So the extent of your education is to claim a guy claimed some texts exist and that is that ? Fool, you haven't proven anything ! Get the damn texts or shvt your mouth ! Your over hyping of the people who tow the Yoruba line is most ridiculous. The worse is you don't even realise you would need to he an expert in the field in order to say who is the best in the field. Something your Google search doesn't qualify you for. |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by TAO11(f): 2:45am On Apr 21, 2020 |
Getsmart2: You forgot to add these: Reference: Dmitri M. Bondarenko: "Advent of the Second (Oba) Dynasty: Another Assessment of a Benin History Key Point", History in Africa, Vol. 30, Cambridge University Press, (2003), p.71. 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by Nobody: 2:45am On Apr 21, 2020 |
TAO11:Wow, so you have now graduated from stupid and mentally ill attachee by force to guy who measures other people's intelligence ? That is amazing ! Amazing indeed ! |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by TAO11(f): 2:46am On Apr 21, 2020 |
Getsmart2: No, not "a guy"; but rather a leading authority in the world on Benin Kingdom. It's pretty obvious why you couldn't spell. I see your emotions. 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by Nobody: 2:49am On Apr 21, 2020 |
TAO11:See whatever you like, I don't give a dime ! You are not making the smallest sense. Getsmart2: |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by Nobody: 2:50am On Apr 21, 2020 |
I have done enough discussion with an idiot today. |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by TAO11(f): 2:51am On Apr 21, 2020 |
Getsmart2: No, I didnt claim. The most prolific authority on Benin Kingdom in the world made note of that in one of his work. And he obviously can and did access such writtings. And there is no such scholar on Benin as Dimitry. Dimitry lives only inside the round vaccum container sitting atop your neck. Moreover, extant documentations on Ife goes back to as early as the early/mid-1300s by the Arab traveller, Ibn Battûta. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by Nobody: 2:55am On Apr 21, 2020 |
TAO11:So your new diversion is the spelling of the guy's name ? Who ever put you into this world did a disservice to humanity. I have never seen more filthy soul as yours. I can't see you but I know you stink. You are one fat smelly pig who spends his days on nairaland telling lies all day. Believing you are fighting some kind of tribal war. You have no virtues, no logics, no intelligence. Just an empty disgusting vessel. |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by TAO11(f): 2:55am On Apr 21, 2020 |
Getsmart2: You mean you don't give a damn about how academia works?? 4 Likes |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by TAO11(f): 3:01am On Apr 21, 2020 |
Getsmart2: You are already doing a disservice to Benin kingdom as you repeatedly prove to be dyslexiac. In other words, you repeatedly prove to have a problem with spelling simple words even while you're trying to correct an earlier silly misspelling. 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by Nobody: 3:05am On Apr 21, 2020 |
TAO11: I really don't want to spend too much time talking to a fat smelly pig with nothing in his head. Which is why I type very fast while replying your smelliness. Getsmart2: Now you can sleep in peace and don't border waking up tomorrow. This world doesn't need your ilks, you are a waste of space and ressources. |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by TAO11(f): 3:06am On Apr 21, 2020 |
Getsmart2: Can you translate from this Gibberish to English language please?? Thank you! 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by TAO11(f): 3:08am On Apr 21, 2020 |
Getsmart2: Hahahahahahahahahaha! A couple of rhetorical questions for you: (1) Why so bitter? (2) Why so depressed? Having said that: I would have called you a clown, but that would be an insult to clowns. Now you can sleep in peace and don't border waking up tomorrow. This world doesn't need your ilks, you are a waste of space and ressources. Oh okay, I will quote you as soon as I wake up tomorrow morning just for tormenting sake. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by Nobody: 3:10am On Apr 21, 2020 |
TAO11:Funny Mr smelly pig with no brains would say that. It is quite clear you have never sat in a hall of any university worth writing about. You have proven many many times that you are dumb and you want to talk about "how academia works". Diversion, diversion, diversion... Produce the texts ! You won't because there are no texts, just hot air as usual ! |
Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by TAO11(f): 3:18am On Apr 21, 2020 |
Getsmart2: Is this the best you can do to defend Benin Kingdom from intellectual scrutiny ?? Wait till I make a claim of having accessed such documents before requesting me to provide them. On the other hand, if a leading authority on Benin kingdom (such as D. M. Bondarenko) makes a note of such early materials (which he did make), then sane people (NOT Benin people oo) know such assertion is factual on the basis of expert testimonial evidence. (see 2nd attachment below). Now, this is how it works in academia, if you've ever seen the four walls of a university. The so-called Getsmart2 (actually Getdumb2) right now: (see 1st attachment below). 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: The Name Benin Was Not Gotten From Ife But Itsekiri by TAO11(f): 3:35am On Apr 21, 2020 |
Getsmart2: Well, you wrote "deserve" and not "disservice". It's too late for you to edit in my correction. I captured your bungle already. See attachment! 1 Like 1 Share
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