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Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by Beaf: 6:59am On Mar 17, 2011
Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare
Austin Oboh
15 March 2011

Lagos — The blame trading which has trailed the failure of Nigerian opposition parties to form a united front against the ruling Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) reverberated on Monday in Lagos as Vice Presidential candidate of the Congress for Progressive Change (CPC), Tunde Bakare, manipulated a South West politician and chief financier of a major opposition party for the fiasco.

Bakare spoke at an interactive session with the media and other stakeholders.

The fiery speaker disclosed that Lai Mohammed, spokesman of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN), had suggested that Buhari should run for Presidency on the platform of the ACN, but that trouble came during the search for his running mate.

Though Bakare's choice was former Finance Minister, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, who he argued fulfilled all the requirements, including formidable credentials, regional, religious, and gender balance, the choice and others did not enjoy the favour of the former governor whose word is scarcely contradicted in the ACN.

[size=14pt]"The greatest danger to democracy today is not the PDP; it is somewhere located in the South West," he said, while noting that the details have already been provided by former Sokoto State Governor, Attahiru Bafarawa, at a recent public event.[/size]

Bakare maintained that one of the first steps the CPC government would take in the fight against corruption is to set in motion constitutional amendments to ensure the removal of immunity clause, which protects governors and the President from trial while in office.

In addition, a CPC government would abolish the office of the First Lady in order to end the squandering of public funds on their ceremonies, he said.

According to the church leader, who insists that Nigeria could be transformed into a great nation within four years, the nation is currently in a state of financial turmoil and cannot attract foreign investment - a fortune which, he pointed out, has gone to Ghana.

He added that though they would fight corruption to the finish, they would not, however, witch-hunt anybody but would build strong institutions to ensure that the apparatus of state is working again.

http://allafrica.com/stories/printable/201103160495.html
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by ekubear1: 7:31am On Mar 17, 2011
This is a very strange pastor.

So why didn't he step down himself and let someone else run as VP?

The ACN and Tinubu are the greatest threat to democracy in Nigeria?  shocked Because they didn't merge with the CPC and let the CPC also choose the VP? How on earth does this make any sense?

I'm pretty confused, at this point. . . someone who understands, please explain

I'm starting to think that this Bakare is a fool
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by EkoIle1: 7:36am On Mar 17, 2011
The Pastor is a whack job and the OP is still stalking and expressing his undying Love for TINUBU.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by ekubear1: 7:36am On Mar 17, 2011
Beaf:

he fiery speaker disclosed that Lai Mohammed, spokesman of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN), had suggested that Buhari should run for Presidency on the platform of the ACN, but that trouble came during the search for his running mate.

Though Bakare's choice was former Finance Minister, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, who he argued fulfilled all the requirements, including formidable credentials, regional, religious, and gender balance, the choice and others did not enjoy the favour of the former governor whose word is scarcely contradicted in the ACN.

So in a nutshell, if Bakare doesn't get to choose the VP of the ACN (a party which he was not a member of, mind you, much less prominent in), then the ACN and Tinubu are anti-democratic  

Who the F is this jackass? Go f*** yourself, Tunde Bakare.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by birdman(m): 7:39am On Mar 17, 2011
Bakare has the gift of gab. Unfortunately he sometimes overspeaks, as anyone who attended his church during OBJ's reign will attest. I'll take a half of Bakare over 2 GEJs any day though. Poor Beaf
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by birdman(m): 7:42am On Mar 17, 2011
eku_bear:

So in a nutshell, if Bakare doesn't get to choose the VP of the ACN (a party which he was not a member of, mind you, much less prominent in), then the ACN and Tinubu are anti-democratic  

Who the F is this jackass? Go f*** yourself, Tunde Bakare.

I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion from the article. Maybe its just me, but the article implied Tinubu putting his foot down on Iweala was an example of Tinubu's iron grip on the party, a grip even ACN mebers have complained about.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by ekubear1: 7:48am On Mar 17, 2011
birdman:

I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion from the article. Maybe its just me, but the article implied Tinubu putting his foot down on Iweala was an example of Tinubu's iron grip on the party,  a grip even ACN mebers have complained about.

There are two separate and distinct issues. You can complain that Tinubu has an iron grip on the ACN. Sure, that is a legitimate gripe. . .but is true of many parties in Nigeria. And I don't think many would claim having a tight control of your party constitutes the "greatest threat" to democracy in all of Nigeria. Otherwise 99% of parties are a threat to democracy.

But my issue with Bakare is this

Though Bakare's choice was former Finance Minister, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, who he argued fulfilled all the requirements

How on earth did it become Bakare's choice who Buhari runs with on the ACN ticket? A party that Bakare is not in? Shouldn't that be an ACN decision, not Bakare's?

Hell, if Bakare has this power. . . then why isn't he choosing GEJs running mate too? Or the running mate for any # of parties he is not a member of, much less prominent in?

Where did he get this authority from?
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by fstranger3(m): 7:53am On Mar 17, 2011
On this one, I do agree with Bakare


The reason GEJ is going to win the election is looking to be due to Tinubu's foolhardiness. Simple!
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by EkoIle1: 7:54am On Mar 17, 2011
birdman:

I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion from the article. Maybe its just me, but the article implied Tinubu putting his foot down on Iweala was an example of Tinubu's iron grip on the party,  a grip even ACN mebers have complained about.

Are you people not tired of all the anti Tinubu propaganda? Standing strong and not selling out is a great virtue and looking out for your people and your party in general is not a crime. The other members you mentioned are all weak individuals, they will ignore their party's interest and sell out in a minute.

Where is the sense and wisdom in selling off your party with nothing in return?

Bakare belongs to the opposition and his utterances and interests are always going to be anti opposition, it's all politics.

Tinubu remains a great asset and he's yet to fail his people in anyway.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by ekubear1: 7:54am On Mar 17, 2011
I'm starting to think that the author of the article made a typographical error. Perhaps it should read


Though Buhari's choice was former Finance Minister, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, who he argued fulfilled all the requirements

In that case, I think things make more sense. Then it simply becomes a case of Bakare complaining about how the ACN didn't let Buhari have full control over who he runs with on their ticket. Which isn't a big deal, really.

Because the way the sentence is written now, Bakare comes off as a jackass.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by ekubear1: 7:57am On Mar 17, 2011
fstranger3:

On this one, I do agree with Bakare


The reason GEJ is going to win the election is looking to be due to Tinubu's foolhardiness. Simple!

100%, utterly, completely wrong.

There is absolutely no justification for someone (Buhari) carpetbagging onto someone else's ticket (ACN) AND choosing the VP. If you want top billing AND our voting base, the bare minimum we get is VP.

So you take the ticket and we get nothing, despite us building the party? F that. No deal.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by fstranger3(m): 7:58am On Mar 17, 2011
Eko Ile:

Are you people not tired of all the anti Tinubu propaganda? Standing strong and not selling out is a great virtue and looking out for your people and your party in general is not a crime. The other members you mentioned are all weak individuals, they will ignore their party's interest and sell out in a minute.

Where is the sense and wisdom in selling off your party with nothing in return?

Bakare belongs to the opposition and his utterances and interests are always going to be anti opposition, it's all politics.

Tinubu remains a great asset and he's yet to fail his people in anyway.

And if I may ask, who are Tinubu's people

DOnt tell me he is looking out for the same people he is stealing from?  the 2 billion naira ABC collects every month, how does that fulfill the principle of quid pro quo.


Lets call a spade a spade, a criminal is a criminal. Tinubu is nothing but a common criminal.


I just hope he is locked up for good!
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by Beaf: 8:01am On Mar 17, 2011
eku_bear:

I'm starting to think that the author of the article made a typographical error. Perhaps it should read

In that case, I think things make more sense. Then it simply becomes a case of Bakare complaining about how the ACN didn't let Buhari have full control over who he runs with on their ticket. Which isn't a big deal, really.

Because the way the sentence is written now, Bakare comes off as a jackass.

Buhari never considered Okonjo Iweala, rather Ribadu did and Tinubu fought the choice with sulphur and fire (cos he wanted to impose a candidate and Ribadu refused). Things were so bad that Ribadu didn't look like he would have a running mate. Long and short is, its no typo.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by ekubear1: 8:01am On Mar 17, 2011
Eko Ile:

Are you people not tired of all the anti Tinubu propaganda? Standing strong and not selling out is a great virtue and looking out for your people and your party in general is not a crime. The other members you mentioned are all weak individuals, they will ignore their party's interest and sell out in a minute.

Where is the sense and wisdom in selling off your party with nothing in return?

For many Nigerians, if you don't slit your throat, gouge your eye, sell your firstborn child like everyone else is doing, you are unpatriotic.

Abeg, if you want the ACNs help to accomplish something you cannot do yourself, then let's negotiate a deal.

Nothing is free in this world. If you want me to help you, then you have to help me too. Equal exchange. No discounts.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by ekubear1: 8:03am On Mar 17, 2011
Beaf:

Buhari never considered Okonjo Iweala, rather Ribadu did and Tinubu fought the choice with sulphur and fire (cos he wanted to impose a candidate and Ribadu refused). Things were so bad that Ribadu didn't look like he would have a running mate. Long and short is, its no typo.

If it isn't a typo, then it makes Bakare look like an asshat.

I was trying to be generous to him by hoping it was a typo.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by fstranger3(m): 8:04am On Mar 17, 2011
eku_bear:

For many Nigerians, if you don't slit your throat, gouge your eye, sell your firstborn child like everyone else is doing, you are unpatriotic.

Abeg, if you want the ACNs help to accomplish something you cannot do yourself, then let's negotiate a deal.

Nothing is free in this world. If you want me to help you, then you have to help me too. Equal exchange. No discounts.


By running on the ticket alone, he was, in a way, albeit single-handedly, transforming the party from a hitherto regional one to a national party. Believe it or not, Buhari is bigger than Tinubu and the whole of ACN combined. Buhari has a reputation Tinubu cannot touch in this life and in the here-after.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by birdman(m): 8:05am On Mar 17, 2011
eku_bear:

I'm starting to think that the author of the article made a typographical error. Perhaps it should read

In that case, I think things make more sense. Then it simply becomes a case of Bakare complaining about how the ACN didn't let Buhari have full control over who he runs with on their ticket. Which isn't a big deal, really.

Because the way the sentence is written now, Bakare comes off as a jackass.

Thats what I assumed: Buhari/CPC's choice getting rejected. It couldnt possibly have been Bakare suggesting options for another man's party. That would be almost hilarious. That doesnt make any sense
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by ekubear1: 8:07am On Mar 17, 2011
fstranger3:


By running on the ticket alone, he was, in a way, albeit single-handedly, transforming the party from a hitherto regional one to a national party. Believe it or not, Buhari is bigger than Tinubu and the whole of ACN combined. Buhari has a reputation Tinubu cannot touch in this life and in the here-after.

Doesn't matter. You can be worth $1 billion, and me only $1000. But if you need to buy an asset that costs $1 billion + $1000, then you'll come to me and we will negotiate a deal. I'll charge you full value for the $1000 I loan you. No discounts on interest even if you are worth more.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by blacksta(m): 8:08am On Mar 17, 2011
Beaf:

Buhari never considered Okonjo Iweala, rather Ribadu did and Tinubu fought the choice with sulphur and fire (cos he wanted to impose a candidate and Ribadu refused). Things were so bad that Ribadu didn't look like he would have a running mate. Long and short is, its no typo.

More lies form the camp of GEJ ineptitude  - baseless information - where you in the meeting when this issues were being discussed.  I can happy confirm the current running mate of ribabu  " Fola" matches the credentials of Okonjo  ANYTIME  and i dont know where you got the notation of imposed candidate from.  

Ol boy stick to pdp politics as you know nothing else.  Of all the running mates " Sambo must be dullest"  anyway what does one expect from clueless  GEJ.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by birdman(m): 8:09am On Mar 17, 2011
Just so everyone is clear. Ribadu is most likely a fifth-columnist. As much as I love the guy, I cant help but think he is an OBJ plant, similar to Saraki in the Northern Elders forum, to split votes. Eh, what do I know
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by EkoIle1: 8:09am On Mar 17, 2011
fstranger3:

And if I may ask, who are Tinubu's people

DOnt tell me he is looking out for the same people he is stealing from?  the 2 billion naira ABC collects every month, how does that fulfill the principle of quid pro quo.


Lets call a spade a spade, a criminal is a criminal. Tinubu is nothing but a common criminal.



I just hope he is locked up for good!


Sorry, I can not debate rumor peddling people with not even the smallest evidence to prove anything.

Calling people criminals when they are yet to be convicted in any court of law is not only childish, it's i/diotic and ignorant.


Debate with credible facts, not ridiculous sidewalk nonsense like an illiterate,
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by ekubear1: 8:09am On Mar 17, 2011
fstranger3:

And if I may ask, who are Tinubu's people

DOnt tell me he is looking out for the same people he is stealing from?  the 2 billion naira ABC collects every month, how does that fulfill the principle of quid pro quo.


Lets call a spade a spade, a criminal is a criminal. Tinubu is nothing but a common criminal.


I just hope he is locked up for good!

OK, let's say that Tinubu is stealing N2 billion from Lagos State every month.

What than of the PDP, who used James Ibori and Delta State as a slush fund? Ibori who is sitting in Dubai right now with $3 billion in his account? If he has $3 billion in his account, he probably stole twice that much.

What of Alams and the billions he stole?

Absolute hypocrisy.

Fstranger, let the PDP take the log out of its own eye before it tries to remove the speck from Tinubu's.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by Beaf: 8:12am On Mar 17, 2011
blacksta:

More lies form the camp of GEJ ineptitude  - baseless information - where you in the meeting when this issues were being discussed.  I can happy confirm the current running mate of ribabu  " Fola" matches the credentials of Okonjo  ANYTIME  and i dont know where you got the notation of imposed candidate from.  

Ol boy stick to pdp politics as you know nothing else.  Of all the running mates " Sambo must be dullest"  anyway what does one expect from clueless  GEJ.  

You stay in your Essex, far away from reality and yarn nonsense very loudly.
It was common news that was even posted and discussed right here on NL. Shame on you and your hand-me-down news about Nigeria. You bera vist 9ja before you get lost patapata.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by fstranger3(m): 8:12am On Mar 17, 2011
blacksta:

More lies form the camp of GEJ ineptitude  - baseless information - where you in the meeting when this issues were being discussed.  I can happy confirm the current running mate of ribabu  " Fola" matches the credentials of Okonjo  ANYTIME  and i dont know where you got the notation of imposed candidate from.  

Ol boy stick to pdp politics as you know nothing else.  Of all the running mates " Sambo must be dullest"  anyway what does one expect from clueless  GEJ.  


DOnt you ever say that again.

Never in your life.


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Economics Vs Accounting
World bank Vs. GTB
Interacts with Paul wolfowitz vs. interacts with no name


Lets call a spade a spade, Iweala is miles ahead of Fola. Simple.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by ekubear1: 8:14am On Mar 17, 2011
birdman:

Just so everyone is clear. Ribadu is most likely a fifth-columnist. As much as I love the guy, I cant help but think he is an OBJ plant, similar to Saraki in the Northern Elders forum, to split votes. Eh,  what do I know

If that were the case, he'd not be running on the ACN ticket. Unless Tinubu is working with GEJ (and thus OBJ.) Which sounds a bit too conspiracy-oriented for my taste.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by fstranger3(m): 8:15am On Mar 17, 2011
eku_bear:

OK, let's say that Tinubu is stealing N2 billion from Lagos State every month.

What than of the PDP, who used James Ibori and Delta State as a slush fund? Ibori who is sitting in Dubai right now with $3 billion in his account? If he has $3 billion in his account, he probably stole twice that much.

What of Alams and the billions he stole?

Absolute hypocrisy.

Fstranger, let the PDP take the log out of its own eye before it tries to remove the speck from Tinubu's.


Why are you so obsessed with the PDP? This thread has little to do with PDP, this is the CPC Vs. ACN thread.


Now, to prove your point, compare and contrast the integrity of the CPC people with that of the ACN.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by ekubear1: 8:16am On Mar 17, 2011
fstranger, I have no clue which team you play for. You seem to hate Tinubu more than is rational. Unless he killed your papa, then our collective interests mutually align. . . for now.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by seanet02: 8:17am On Mar 17, 2011
Eko Ile:


Sorry, I can not debate rumor peddling people with not even the smallest evidence to prove anything.

Calling people criminals when they are yet to be convicted in any court of law is not only childish, it's i/diotic and ignorant.


Debate with credible facts, not ridiculous sidewalk nonsense like an illiterate,
GBAM.  You can not have said better. Fstranger3 is the only son of a PDP usurper who is very popular in criminal circles. If not for the YORUBA link, i will have slapped the sense out of this childish poster.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by birdman(m): 8:18am On Mar 17, 2011
eku_bear:

If that were the case, he'd not be running on the ACN ticket. Unless Tinubu is working with GEJ (and thus OBJ.) Which sounds a bit too conspiracy-oriented for my taste.

Tinubu wouldn't have to be working with GEJ anymore than a Ribadu supporter would be. Thats the essence of a 5th column. Only Ribadu has to be in the know.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by ekubear1: 8:21am On Mar 17, 2011
seanet02:

GBAM.  You can not have said better. Fstranger3 is the only son of a PDP usurper who is very popular in criminal circles. If not for the YORUBA link, i will have slapped the sense out of this childish poster.

We are faced with a variety of evils, yet fstranger seems interested in choosing the larger ones. I don't get it.

@fstranger: Tinubu is not perfect, but is necessary at this point in time. We have enemies in this Nigeria, and Tinubu seems to be the only one interested in fighting them.
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by Justcash(m): 8:21am On Mar 17, 2011
eku_bear:

OK, let's say that Tinubu is stealing N2 billion from Lagos State every month.

What than of the PDP, who used James Ibori and Delta State as a slush fund? Ibori who is sitting in Dubai right now with $3 billion in his account? If he has $3 billion in his account, he probably stole twice that much.

What of Alams and the billions he stole?

Absolute hypocrisy.

Fstranger, let the PDP take the log out of its own eye before it tries to remove the speck from Tinubu's.

Tinubu is even in an uncomfortable political position and he is collection 2 billion for nada. Imagine if he succeeds in getting the political power that he needs. It means that Abacha's embezzlement and Dangote's wealth will look like pieces of cake compared to what he will steal and own. I love Fashola alot (no homo), but I detest his god-father, Tinubu. We don't need men like Tinubu. Voting for Candidates supported by Tinubu is like voting for candidates suported ny OBJ, O. Kalu, A. Anenih and Lucky Igbinedion. Tufiakwa!
Re: Nigeria: PDP Not Greatest Threat to Democracy -Bakare by fstranger3(m): 8:21am On Mar 17, 2011
seanet02:

GBAM.  You can not have said better. Fstranger3 is the only son of a PDP usurper who is very popular in criminal circles. If not for the YORUBA link, i will have slapped the sense out of this childish poster.


Can you please mention one credible person that is in support of Tinubu's actionss.

Whatever he is doing will eventually backfire and we will all end up where we shouldnt. its already happening, buying votes, intimidation of voters , bribing judges and what not. This guy from Iragbiji who cliamed to have attended GCI and University of Chicago, and who counts on shady characters like Tokunbo Afikuyomi as friend is a ticking time bomb and the sooner his actions are curtailed, the better for us as a people.

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