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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by BKayy: 7:27pm On Feb 20, 2021
IDENNAA:


First of all , I am from Idenmili north and a member of many Anambra groups, therefore I would know the sentiments of my people and the way Anambra dialects have transformed to the common form we use across the state.

Additionally, what you know as Onicha tone spoken in Onicha metropolis, Idenmili , and Awka are a naturally developed form of speech. It wasn't manufactured or forced through Igbo unity blackmail.

The union Igbo/Igbo Onicha which was previously in used in the 1930s and 1940s were a combination of Onicha axis dialects and even Enuani. That were Idenmili, Dunukofia, Anaocha, Onicha, Ogbaru , Nnewi, Njikoka, Ekwusigo and the rest of Anambra lects fall into.
Like I said earlier almost all anambra communities now speak similar dialect but calling it Onitsha dialect to elevate Onitsha above others will cause serious commotion. That is the Anambra State.
Infact the Original Onitsha dialect not what the whole of Anambra state speak now call God Oseburuwa.
What they speak in Anambra state now can be called anambra dialect if you still want peace to reign.

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by PHijo(m): 7:28pm On Feb 20, 2021
Ebitimi44:
From the looks of things, we Ijaws had been the first tribe to officially reject Nigeria, I think amongst the three major tribes, the Igbos had been fair enough.

Igbos Eastern Region Cited the Refinery in PH, a city that would have served all most tribes of Niger Delta, Igbos had been in the forefront of Nigeria independence, so it could have been fair that Capital of Eastern region be in Enugu or Igboland, all the three major tribes had their regions capital in their major cities so why do we expect that the capital of the East will not be in Igboland...

Most people think it is the destiny of the Ijaws to see the Igbos as rivals, well I may not see them as brothers but they are our good neighbours, if Igbos wanted they could have used our oil as bargaining chip during the war but they did not go that part, from the look of things, Igbos listen more than the three major tribes, within the whole declaration, Adakar borrow lived when Igbos was in charge but few moments of romance with non eastern tribes and he disappeared, even our oil wells are not hijacked by the Igbos.

The Bayelsa where I live, there are more Igbos in Lagos than in Bayelsa, so let's bare our mind, what is our beef with the Igbos, if Nigeria divides, Biafra will also divide and Niger Delta will most likely also divide so at the end we will be left with our old neighbours the Igbos as tribal neighbours so what's our real beef with the Igbos.

I doubt you are Ijaw! If you are you would know that our fathers like Harold Dappa Biriye ( from Bonny in Rivers state) and Melford Okilo ( from Ogbia in Bayelsa state) were at the forefront in the battle to end Igbo political and economic domination in the now defunct eastern region. They tried through political means but it did not work. That was what motivated Boro to declare independence when an Igbo was head of state and another Igbo was governor of the now defunct eastern region.

The Igbo negotiated with Ijaw oil assets. They had a deal with France on that. It is no coincidence all of their major backers had strong French ties. Ivory coast, Gabon, Haiti etc.

The primary reason Ojukwu declared Biafra was because he lost control of Ijaw oil assets. He believed he could regain those assets for the Igbo through a war.

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by Nobody: 7:28pm On Feb 20, 2021
Afriifa:
We all have internal strifes like everyone does in a typical extended family settings. It does not take away our spirit of togetherness on the national scale. In our politics the motto is: "all for one, one for all". The South-South by interpretation as the Niger Delta Region is formidable as such.

There is no family setting in SS. IGBOS who are the largest tribe in SS dey, Efiks dey and efiks no get any relationship with ijaw, urhobo or Bini, Same way Bini has no family connection with Ibibio and Annang and Oron. Stop lumping everyone's together by force

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by PHijo(m): 7:30pm On Feb 20, 2021
Logan23:


From my observation :

Okrika is mixed.

Opobo is mixed...(mostly igbos).

Bonny is mixed...(mostly igbos).

We are NOT mixed, we are IJAW!
I wonder why it is difficult for that to sink into your skulls.

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by iSlayer: 7:32pm On Feb 20, 2021
IDENNAA:


First of all , I am from Idenmili north and a member of many Anambra groups, therefore I would know the sentiments of my people and the way Anambra dialects have transformed to the common form we use across the state.

Additionally, what you know as Onicha tone spoken in Onicha metropolis, Idenmili , and Awka are a naturally developed form of speech. It wasn't manufactured or forced through Igbo unity blackmail.

The union Igbo/Igbo Onicha which was previously in used in the 1930s and 1940s were a combination of Onicha axis dialects and even Enuani. That were Idenmili, Dunukofia, Anaocha, Onicha, Ogbaru , Nnewi, Njikoka, Ekwusigo and the rest of Anambra lects fall into.



There's a post where someone said what is spoken across various Anambra communities are similar yet distinct. This is the truth. The "general" Igbo spoken across is not Onicha dialect, though it may be close. No matter how much one speaks this "general" Igbo, one with a keen ear can still pinpoint where you're from.

Again, any move to supposedly impose one particular dialect, no matter how sweet it is on the tongue will be resisted. The indigenous dialects across the state, from Onicha to Awka to Nnewi and interior areas remain sacrosanct to the people, traditionally and otherwise.

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by Nobody: 7:33pm On Feb 20, 2021
BKayy:

As for Anioma their absorption will be the easiest. Infact they are the ones calling for it.
Ikwerre doesn't outnumber Ijaws. They don't even come close. Ikwerre will have no choice but accept the absorption because their eyes will be set on still having a claim to the city of PH


There is no way any Anioma clan will be discussing about being absorbed by binis, pls this is a stupid talk, delete it.

Ijaws are sparsely populated in nigeria. Even Bayelsa which represent the largest ijaw block numbers 1.6 million and Hundreds of thousands of them are Isoko and urhobo communities. So if ijaw is less than 2 million in nigeria, how can they absorb Rivers state igbos who are more than 4 million?


Ikwerre owns Porthacourt city, This isn't being argued anywhere

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by christistruth01: 7:34pm On Feb 20, 2021
Logan23:


Azimini is 25 nautical miles away from the Atlantic, Its closer to the atlantic than any seaport in nigeria...estimate its depth



A ship doing 50 nauts will get to the Atlantic ocean in 30 minutes from Azimini

Is any part of Igboland on the Sea Coast?

Just asking
Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by PHijo(m): 7:34pm On Feb 20, 2021
Ebitimi44:

I'm not talking about Biafra, I don't want to be part of Biafra, but I want Igbos as friends and Allies of the Ijaw Nation, I would have loved Niger Delta Republic but if you exclude Igbos from Niger Delta then the map is crazy, Akwa/Cross is closer to the Igbos than they can ever be to the rest of the Niger Delta, that's my concern, If Akwa/Cross is in Niger Delta Republic, Igbo influences in the republic will be massive, they have same agenda with Igbos.

Ijaw nation is large enough to be on her own. Should Nigeria divide that remains the most preferred option for us.

There would be nothing "crazy" about the map. Ijawland covers much of the coast from Arogbo in Ondo to Andoni in Akwa Ibom and Rivers.

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by Nobody: 7:35pm On Feb 20, 2021
Afriifa:
Lol. let me laugh

U laughed n kept mute grin

Cuz u cant fight the truth

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by IDENNAA(m): 7:37pm On Feb 20, 2021
BKayy:

Nnewi is not in Anambra North but South.
Nri-Awka doesn't have the same dialect with Onitsha. Awka to some extent share the same words with Ezeagu and other Enugu communities.
Just leave this the way it is. All Anambra communities even speak alike but bringing the name of one community to oversee others will make everybody change his mind.
I know my people.
Especially Nnewi can never bow to Onitsha. Even Oba and Obosi that is included in Onitsha metropolis have issues with it

*sigh*

Of course , Nnewi is in Anambra central. I can't you see I know Anambra very well.

Listen to Ajofia Nnewi and tell me whether they sing like Ndi Anambra or Imo. Nnewi is Anambraic, kponkwem!

Give up , please.
Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by BKayy: 7:37pm On Feb 20, 2021
iSlayer:



There's a post where someone said what is spoken across various Anambra communities are similar yet distinct. This is the truth. The "general" Igbo spoken across is not Onicha dialect, though it may be close. No matter how much one speaks this "general" Igbo, one with a keen ear can still pinpoint where you're from.

Again, any move to supposedly impose one particular dialect, no matter how sweet it is on the tongue will be resisted. The indigenous dialects across the state, from Onicha to Awka to Nnewi and interior areas remain sacrosanct to the people, traditionally and otherwise.


You've said it all. Infact what is spoken in Enu Onitsha is not actually Onitsha dialect. It a dialect formed out of cohabitation of various Igbo groups over the years. It is very different from the original Onitsha dialect and the indigenes will tell you so. It is even modernizing every year. Like recently they included de je, something that is peculiar to Nsukka dialect.
In summary anybody that can understand the new dialect they speak in Igbo cities like Onitsha or the entire Anambra State because there is a way we are interwoven unlike others can understand any kind of dialect in Igboland.
The best is to leave it like that. Don't tag a name to it so as not to bring resistance and allow nature take over

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by Ekealterego: 7:38pm On Feb 20, 2021
Logan23:


Tanks a lot bro.

Pls can u show me d thread where he was exposed pls, I want to deal wit him more
The thread was closed with the help of the mods. He and another guy with several monikers Idenna made sure the thread was closed.
There are others here too... but the Julius guy is active on twitter too, working for Lauretta Onochie....He also uses the osagey moniker going around threads to pit Igbos against each other.

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by iSlayer: 7:39pm On Feb 20, 2021
Igboid:


What'd Utopic about an Igbo republic having Igbo language as its lingua franca?

Maybe you suffer from inferiority complex.


Nothing brings inferiority complex into the question. Your statement in the last paragraph is utopia. The local speech forms will hold sway for decades to come.
Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by PHijo(m): 7:40pm On Feb 20, 2021
Logan23:



There is no way any Anioma clan will be discussing about being absorbed by binis, pls this is a stupid talk, delete it.

Ijaws are sparsely populated in nigeria. Even Bayelsa which represent the largest ijaw block numbers 1.6 million and Hundreds of thousands of them are Isoko and urhobo communities. So if ijaw is less than 2 million in nigeria, how can they absorb Rivers state igbos who are more than 4 million?


Ikwerre owns Porthacourt city, This isn't being argued anywhere

Ikwerre don't own Port Harcourt. They don't feature anywhere in the history of Port Harcourt. Their claim to Port Harcourt was made possible by Ijaw people. The treaty on Port Harcourt with Britain was between Ijaw people and Britain. Ijaw people also recieved more compensation than the Ikwerre.

The largest Ijaw clan is in Rivers. The thing with you Igbo fools is that you talk down Ijaw population thinking it will benefit you, when it matters it is the North or Yoruba your greed, shortsighted attitude and foolishness will benefit. Close to half of the LGAs in Rivers state are Ijaw.

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by iSlayer: 7:40pm On Feb 20, 2021
BKayy:

You've said it all. Infact what is spoken in Enu Onitsha is not actually Onitsha dialect. It a dialect formed out of cohabitation of various Igbo groups over the years. It is very different from the original Onitsha dialect and the indigenes will tell you so. It is even modernizing every year. Like recently they included de je, something that is peculiar to Nsukka dialect.
In summary anybody that can understand the new dialect they speak in Igbo cities like Onitsha or the entire Anambra State because there is a way we are interwoven unlike others can understand any kind of dialect in Igboland.
The best is to leave it like that. Don't tag a name to it so as not to bring resistance and allow nature take over



Exactly.
Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by BKayy: 7:42pm On Feb 20, 2021
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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by christistruth01: 7:43pm On Feb 20, 2021
PHijo:


Ijaw nation is large enough to be on her own. Should Nigeria divide that remains the most preferred option for us.

There would be nothing "crazy" about the map. Ijawland covers much of the coast from Arogbo in Ondo to Andoni in Akwa Ibom and Rivers.

The Ijaw in Ondo State are not on the Coast but beside Rivers
Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by Nobody: 7:45pm On Feb 20, 2021
PHijo:


Ikwerre don't own Port Harcourt. They don't feature anywhere in the history of Port Harcourt. Their claim to Port Harcourt was made possible by Ijaw people. The treaty on Port Harcourt with Britain was between Ijaw people and Britain. Ijaw people also recieved more compensation than the Ikwerre.

The largest Ijaw clan is in Rivers. The thing with you Igbo fools is that you talk down Ijaw population thinking it will benefit you, when it matters it is the North or Yoruba your greed, shortsighted attitude and foolishness will benefit. Close to half of the LGAs in Rivers state are Ijaw.



"'largest Ijaw clan is in Rivers"" grin grin grin grin

Afonjja Pls list those local govts/clans/villages in rivers state that is Ijaw.

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by Igboid: 7:45pm On Feb 20, 2021
iSlayer:


Nothing brings inferiority complex into the question. Your statement in the last paragraph is utopia. The local speech forms will hold sway for decades to come.

It will, but people who use them will be considered not so polished.
Like English people who don't speak Queen's English are considered in England or Germans not being able to use Hochdeutsch are considered in Germany.

Ability to write and communicate in Igbo Izugbe will be seen as symbol of social class.

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by iSlayer: 7:45pm On Feb 20, 2021
PHijo:


Ikwerre don't own Port Harcourt. They don't feature anywhere in the history of Port Harcourt. Their claim to Port Harcourt was made possible by Ijaw people. The treaty on Port Harcourt with Britain was between Ijaw people and Britain. Ijaw people also recieved more compensation than the Ikwerre.

The largest Ijaw clan is in Rivers. The thing with you Igbo fools is that you talk down Ijaw population thinking it will benefit you, when it matters it is the North or Yoruba your greed, shortsighted attitude and foolishness will benefit. Close to half of the LGAs in Rivers state are Ijaw.


cc Chrisxxx.
Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by Nobody: 7:46pm On Feb 20, 2021
PHijo:


Ijaw nation is large enough to be on her own. Should Nigeria divide that remains the most preferred option for us.

There would be nothing "crazy" about the map. Ijawland covers much of the coast from Arogbo in Ondo to Andoni in Akwa Ibom and Rivers.

Andoni is not ijaw and they dont even speak ur langauge cheesy

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by PHijo(m): 7:47pm On Feb 20, 2021
Logan23:




"'largest Ijaw clan is in Rivers"" grin grin grin grin

Afonjja Pls list those local govts/clans/villages in rivers state that is Ijaw.

It is not my responsibility to educate you!
You can carry on with the stupidity that cost your fathers Biafra in the 60s.

If you will not learn to live peacefully and respectfully with the Ijaw people history will keep on repeating itself.

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by Nobody: 7:48pm On Feb 20, 2021
Ekealterego:
The thread was closed with the help of the mods. He and another guy with several monikers Idenna made sure the thread was closed.
There are others here too... but the Julius guy is active on twitter too, working for Lauretta Onochie....He also uses the osagey moniker going around threads to pit Igbos against each other.

Wow, I never knew he was using osageyfo moniker too, I know that one no be igbo cuz I've spoken to him in igbo many times and he knows nothing.

Pls even if u see the closed thread later, tag me

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by BKayy: 7:48pm On Feb 20, 2021
IDENNAA:


*sigh*

Of course , Nnewi is in Anambra central. I can't you see I know Anambra very well.

Listen to Ajofia Nnewi and tell me whether they sing like Ndi Anambra or Imo. Nnewi is Anambraic, kponkwem!

Give up , please.

I think we need to stop the argument here. Anyị amarọ ka anyị si nọ dị. We don't know the intent those reading all these things have for Igbo and Anambra in particular. I am modifying some of my comments to full stop.

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by Nobody: 7:48pm On Feb 20, 2021
PHijo:


We are NOT mixed, we are IJAW!
I wonder why it is difficult for that to sink into your skulls.

which place are u talking about?
Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by iSlayer: 7:49pm On Feb 20, 2021
Igboid:


It will, but people who use them will be considered not so polished.
Like English people who don't speak Queen's English are considered in England or Germans not being able to use Hochdeutsch are.


Is Izugbe not used across the East even now. How far has it gone displacing the indigenous dialects. It will remain only for official means of communication. Nothing more.

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by PHijo(m): 7:49pm On Feb 20, 2021
Logan23:


Andoni is not ijaw and they dont even speak ur langauge cheesy

Where is the current Ijaw Youth Council from?

You just display your stupidity and ignorance everywhere!

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by PHijo(m): 7:50pm On Feb 20, 2021
Logan23:


which place are u talking about?

Didn't you see the places that were listed?

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by christistruth01: 7:51pm On Feb 20, 2021
Logan23:




"'largest Ijaw clan is in Rivers"" grin grin grin grin

Afonjja Pls list those local govts/clans/villages in rivers state that is Ijaw.

No1 Patience Jonathan's Okrika

No 2 Asari Dokubo's Buguma
Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by IDENNAA(m): 7:53pm On Feb 20, 2021
Juliusmalema:


That boy bkayy knows nothing and can claim for the whole universe.

You have to be careful with such characters before you make mistake.

He said he knows oha mmuonwu but renowned Egedege Musician we know goes by the Name Theresa Onuora...and not Theresa Onuoha.

Infact refers to as Theresa Onuora of Unubi...


Over time I have noticed that boy dishes a lot of lies and are not even careful to his own statement. He has no control over his emotions and as such claims what's not Existing..


Those who are not conversant with Unubi might believe that nonsense he wrote. Weigh his words and research before Izofie okpa.


I know these people more than they think. Most of them hail from a certain region of Igbo land. They want to bury our identity but
Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by Nobody: 7:54pm On Feb 20, 2021
christistruth01:


Is any part of Igboland on the Sea Coast?

Just asking


Opobo and Bonny are on the atlantic ocean.

Afonjja, focus on how yoruba will survive if Nigeria ends, all these ur obsession with igbo matter wont help u.

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Re: Ijaws, If Nigeria Breaks, Biafra Will Break And Niger Delta Wi Also Break by Nobody: 7:55pm On Feb 20, 2021
IDENNAA:


I know these people more than they think. Most of them hail from a certain region of Igbo land. They want to bury our identity but

Juliusmalema, is that u?

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