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Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by Darkcloud11(m): 6:53am On Apr 20, 2021
I'm confused about the whole Midwest region of the past was it really part of the western region,if they are part of the western region that means they will join oduduwa republic,or do their
traditional values make them more part of eastern region;I can't speak for other tribes but urohobo and Edo people have similarities between them and Yorubas at times you can hardly identify an urohobo or an edo man who lives in the west you will probably mistaken them for Yorubas,expert in the house please who are the Midwesterners more aligned to?

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Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by kalu61(m): 7:09am On Apr 20, 2021
Midwest is mixture of people from South West e.g Kogi has yorubas, Benue has people from SE, Nasarawa has hausa. Aside, they are smaller ethnic groups scattered in the Midwest just like in Niger Delta. Remember, Geo political zones was invented for political reasons likewise state and local government.

Even though it's difficult to say which angle the Midwest will align, their hearts are more in South than north. Religion wise and cultural wise, you can see the angle they are tilted towards.

I don't see then aligning, rather agitate for their own independence.

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Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by Darkcloud11(m): 7:12am On Apr 20, 2021
kalu61:
Midwest is mixture of people from South West e.g Kogi has yorubas, Benue has people from SE, Nasarawa has hausa. Aside, they are smaller ethnic groups scattered in the Midwest just like in Niger Delta. Remember, Geo political zones was invented for political reasons likewise state and local government.

Even though it's difficult to say which angle the Midwest will align, their hearts are more in South than north. Religion wise and cultural wise, you can see the angle they are tilted towards.

I don't see then aligning, rather agitate for their own independence.
I think U are mistaking Midwest for middle belt sir

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Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by kalu61(m): 7:12am On Apr 20, 2021
Darkcloud11:
I think U are mistaking Midwest for middle belt sir
Yes, thanks
Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by Darkcloud11(m): 7:13am On Apr 20, 2021
old Midwest is current day delta and edo,
Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by middlebelter(m): 7:14am On Apr 20, 2021
It is a difficult question to answer. Old Mid-West is actually part of the West and should remain so. However, for political negotiations purposes, Abacha created six geopolitical zones primarily to benefit the North with massive landmass to the detriment of the South.

When our fathers negotiated the independence of the geographical expression called Nigeria, it was done on a tripod. Modern society or country are created on negotiations table if they intend to co-exist not a single region called North using advantage of military dominance to oppress others. Six Geopolitical zones was never negotiated, it was imposed. So where is the HQ of SS? Benin or Port Harcourt?
My take , if the Mid West wish to be part of SS, it must be negotiated not imposed. Port Harcourt has always been part of SE.
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Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by kalu61(m): 7:18am On Apr 20, 2021
I will still apply the same logic with Midwest. You know it's was created from old Bendel and they are diverse in ethnicity along side middle belt. Some part of Edo will have their mind in South West, some in South south. In Delta State, some part are of Igbo origin and some with their own ethnic groups. The same thing is applicable as l earlier said, they rather agitate for independence than splits to join different major Ethnic groups.
Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by helinues: 7:19am On Apr 20, 2021
Old midwest was part of Western region as you can see they both have West in their names but I believe they are independent enough to stand on their own without aligning with either SE or SW
Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by NaMe4: 7:41am On Apr 20, 2021
The truth is Midwest is more aligned historically, culturally, socially, politically with the West.



South-south, Mid-west, etc are politically engineered terms.
Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by Darkcloud11(m): 7:53am On Apr 20, 2021
NaMe4:
The truth is Midwest is more aligned historically, culturally, socially, politically with the West.



South-south, Mid-west, etc are politically engineered terms.
that what I also believe,the north disbanded the Midwest to weaken southern Nigeria
Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by gidgiddy: 8:21am On Apr 20, 2021
Darkcloud11:
I'm confused about the whole Midwest region of the past was it really part of the western region,if they are part of the western region that means they will join oduduwa republic,or do their
traditional values make them more part of eastern region;I can't speak for other tribes but urohobo and Edo people have similarities between them and Yorubas at times you can hardly identify an urohobo or an edo man who lives in the west you will probably mistaken them for Yorubas,expert in the house please who are the Midwesterners more aligned to?

The old midwest is complicated, they are basically minorities of the old Western Region who were given their own Region in 1963 so as to make Western Region a 'Yoruba only' area.

Some advocates now say that should Nigeria break up, the old Midwest Region should become a seperate country. The problem with that is that there are many Igbos in the Anioma area who would rather join the SE Igbos in the event of a break up. An example is the people of Asaba, who have never denied being Igbos. The King of Asaba, Obi Chike Edozien, has warned in the past that him and his people are Igbos and do not want to be in a separate country without their kith and kin

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Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by nthony10: 8:25am On Apr 20, 2021
Most people are saying the Midwest is aligned to the West it's not true in present day Nigeria, first of all there are around 8 different ethnic groups in Edo state and another 6 different ethnic groups in Delta state, each has their influence from either yoruba( in the case of Bini's) or Igbo(Igbo speaking part of Delta), Ijaw are more aligned with the other ethnic groups in rivers and bayelsa states while the Etsako speaking parts of Edo state have some Igala influence (I'm not 100percent sure).

So it's either they stay together as they are ( a country or autonomous region) or a referendum is carried oneach ethnic group to choose their future because it's already a complicated region.
Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by MrSamsung(m): 8:30am On Apr 20, 2021
The reality on ground for anybody who has lived in any of these two states Edo and Delta is that they are aligned with South East and South South. Politically, culturally, socially and "Nollywoodly". No question about that.

But what worries me or surprises me is why this topic when everything is clear to the eyes.
What is your aim? @op or what do you stand to gain or want to achieve with the topic?
Are you afraid of something?

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Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by Odingo1: 8:34am On Apr 20, 2021
gidgiddy:


The old midwest is complicated, they are basically minorities of the old Western Region who were given their own Region in 1963 so as to make Western Region a 'Yoruba only' area.

Some advocates now say that should Nigeria break up, the old Midwest Region should become a seperate country. The problem with that is that there are many Igbos in the Anioma area who would rather join the SE Igbos in the even of a break up. An example is the people of Asaba, who have never denied being Igbos. The King of Asaba, Obi Chike Edozien, has warned in the past that him and his people are Igbos and do not want to be in a separate country without their kith and kin
SW is not only Yoruba area rather a Yoruba majority area, Eguns, Ilaje, Izons-Ijaw and Aworis are not Yorubas but minorities in present SW.

Midwest today are more aligned with Eastern Nigeria due to proximity and politically however some parts of Edo and Delta will like to have their own country Niger Delta Republic.
Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by Etrusen(m): 8:45am On Apr 20, 2021
this topic is an absolute waste of time

the two state ( especially Edo) have never made their stand know to anybody about joining anybody if 9ja divide which is not going to happen.

Edo believe in self independence and it come to that situation, I don't see edo joining either east or west


if you have not live in this area don't come here to say rubbish like this people will like to be with east or west

go to Edo and find out what a typical edo man have to say about himself

go to Delta and find same about an Urhobo man

don't come here to say rubbish

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Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by NaMe4: 8:49am On Apr 20, 2021
Darkcloud11:
that what I also believe,the north disbanded the Midwest to weaken southern Nigeria

True
Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by johnmartus(m): 9:04am On Apr 20, 2021
Midwest state was part of western Nigeria and they always on political views with Yoruba Edo for example action group won all the seat to house of assembly in first republic also same goes to Urobo which is present Delta state.

However the creation of midwest was motivated by Nnamdi azikiwe just to weaken Baba Awolowo political popularity.

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Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by MrSamsung(m): 9:08am On Apr 20, 2021
Even religiously speaking, there's nothing like 50/50 Christian and Muslims population in the former in present day Edo and Delta.

Unlike the South West with a 50/50 Christian and Muslims population or even a Muslim majority.(Muslims majority even looks plausible).

Sincerely speaking, I will really want to know why you put this out because knowing how things are in Nigeria, my mind and soul is telling me that you the op is trying a divisive scheme, tribalism and the spitting of one region against the other in this case Edo/Delta against South East and even South South sad
Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by helinues: 9:09am On Apr 20, 2021
Odingo1:

SW is not only Yoruba area rather a Yoruba majority area, Eguns, Ilaje, Izons-Ijaw and Aworis are not Yorubas but minorities in present SW.

Midwest today are more aligned with Eastern Nigeria due to proximity and politically however some parts of Edo and Delta will like to have their own country Niger Delta Republic.

Pardon, Egun and Awori are not Yoruba, please which language are they speaking?

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Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by OkoNDOoBo: 9:10am On Apr 20, 2021
Odingo1:

SW is not only Yoruba area rather a Yoruba majority area, Eguns, Ilaje, Izons-Ijaw and Aworis are not Yorubas but minorities in present SW.

Midwest today are more aligned with Eastern Nigeria due to proximity and politically however some parts of Edo and Delta will like to have their own country Niger Delta Republic.
you re very stupid for saying we aworis re not yoruba. Progenitor of awori is olofin ogunfuminire an ife prince that left home to settle in lagos. he was directed by ifa to place a bowl on water on his sojourn and followed it to anywhere the bowl sunk that is his settlement. The bowl finally sunk at iddo(idumota)
Awori in yoruba means "bowl sunk"

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Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by abc115: 9:11am On Apr 20, 2021
Mid West was originally part of Western Nigeria. But the Igbos and Fulanis connived to create Mid West in the First Republic

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Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by gidgiddy: 9:12am On Apr 20, 2021
Odingo1:

SW is not only Yoruba area rather a Yoruba majority area, Eguns, Ilaje, Izons-Ijaw and Aworis are not Yorubas but minorities in present SW.

Midwest today are more aligned with Eastern Nigeria due to proximity and politically however some parts of Edo and Delta will like to have their own country Niger Delta Republic.

I cant speak for Edos, Bini's, Urhobo and the rest of them. However, the Igbo speaking part of the old Midwest Region, today referred to as "Anioma" is most likely to tilt towards the SE whom they speak the same language and bear the same names with.
Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by Ttalk: 9:21am On Apr 20, 2021
OkoNDOoBo:
you re very stupid for saying we aworis re not yoruba. Progenitor of awori is olofin ogunfuminire an ife prince that left home to settle in lagos. he was directed by ifa to place a bowl on water on his sojourn and followed it to anywhere the bowl sunk that is his settlement. The bowl finally sunk at iddo(idumota)
Awori in yoruba means "bowl sunk"

Wa gbayi.

Kiti gbe o

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Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by November24(f): 9:21am On Apr 20, 2021
Leave us alone.
We are the true Naija Delta

Isaac Boro is our Father
Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by Edeyoung: 9:40am On Apr 20, 2021
The fate of edo is a country of their own the British once deniel them off and we would be happy to have states under the former empire of benin in our edo country


Delta state would be fragmented at the end of the day, some part to biafra, some to yorubas and the others to the niger delta Republic


We edos are not dreaming to join any fucking Niger delta Republic abi Oduduwa or biafra whatever those trashy Republic called themselves


When the edo Republic is military equipped in the future we are coming to invade the Oduduwa republic like our ancestors ones did, they will pay
For tribalisiing we edos in the former western region.....


The biafra are not leftout too, they will pay for invade edo state with their biafra army


Edo republic is our dream


All those fools shouting Oduduwa republic and biafra they are too blind to see their republic wont work their best bet is to remain in Nigeria



Etrusen, etinosa, Truthshots2, Valirex

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Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by Edeyoung: 10:03am On Apr 20, 2021
When biafra is formed

There will be a daily unrest between the distinct igbos from the majour igbos, corruption would revage their country, their politician will use the advantage of their disunity for their political gains


Oduduwa republic : that another mess not only will they historically go back fighting themselves like they did before the arrival of the British they will also segregate themselves along clans, their false history of Oduduwa homogeneity that held them in Nigeria, wont hold them again, because it was not historical but a made up false history by awolowo to hold yorubas together for political benefits they will be constant religious wars, within the Oduduwa republic, thats why you will hardly see a yoruba man agitating for a republic because they know their fate if they have one



Arewa republic : another rubbish republic they are only united because they have a common enemy down south as soon as that enemies goes, they become their own enemies, the hausa will revolt against the Fulanis, and endless war will erupt, the fulanis will definitely loose and flee back to their ancestral lands.....


Edo republic: will triumph the oba would have certain amount of political influence in the new republic, they would work tirelessly to stand again as the empire once recognize around the world, corruption would be absolute dealt with
And they will once more come Invade bifra and Oduduwa and arewa Republic



Niger delta republic :would also progress if they wont let corruption thrives, if they do it would be worst than the three major republic, if they dont, it will be a very rich republic


This i have seen.....


Oduduwa, arewa, biafra are going to fail, speaking a common language is not unifying factor for a republic


A southern Nigeria maybe all our first option the second option his dinstingration
Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by OkoNDOoBo: 10:36am On Apr 20, 2021
Ttalk:


Wa gbayi.

Kiti gbe o
Ogbere my brother
Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by Olatomiwami(m): 10:54am On Apr 20, 2021
OkoNDOoBo:
you re very stupid for saying we aworis re not yoruba. Progenitor of awori is olofin ogunfuminire an ife prince that left home to settle in lagos. he was directed by ifa to place a bowl on water on his sojourn and followed it to anywhere the bowl sunk that is his settlement. The bowl finally sunk at iddo(idumota)
Awori in yoruba means "bowl sunk"



Not every idiotic narratives on NL needs response, leave the Op to his dream, he will soon wake up from his slumber.

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Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by Olatomiwami(m): 10:57am On Apr 20, 2021
Edeyoung:
When biafra is formed

There will be a daily unrest between the distinct igbos from the majour igbos, corruption would revage their country, their politician will use the advantage of their disunity for their political gains


Oduduwa republic : that another mess not only will they historically go back fighting themselves like they did before the arrival of the British they will also segregate themselves along clans, their false history of Oduduwa homogeneity that held them in Nigeria, wont hold them again, because it was not historical but a made up false history by awolowo to hold yorubas together for political benefits they will be constant religious wars, within the Oduduwa republic, thats why you will hardly see a yoruba man agitating for a republic because they know their fate if they have one



Arewa republic : another rubbish republic they are only united because they have a common enemy down south as soon as that enemies goes, they become their own enemies, the hausa will revolt against the Fulanis, and endless war will erupt, the fulanis will definitely loose and flee back to their ancestral lands.....


Edo republic: will triumph the oba would have certain amount of political influence in the new republic, they would work tirelessly to stand again as the empire once recognize around the world, corruption would be absolute dealt with
And they will once more come Invade bifra and Oduduwa and arewa Republic



Niger delta republic :would also progress if they wont let corruption thrives, if they do it would be worst than the three major republic, if they dont, it will be a very rich republic


This i have seen.....


Oduduwa, arewa, biafra are going to fail, speaking a common language is not unifying factor for a republic



See what too much weeds is causing, u need to change your weeds dealer.

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Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by Efewestern: 11:32am On Apr 20, 2021
Midwest is a collection of various unique groups with the Urhobos being majority. There is no direct answer to your question, but I will make a little contribution just for the sake of those who aren't farmiliar with the region.

Midwest is made up of Anioma (Igbo), Bini, Esan, Urhobo/Isoko, Itsekiri and Ijaw. Some of these ethnic groups have alliances to either East or West, while some are neutral.

URHOBO/ISOKO: Urhobo being the major group in the region and a major power bloc shares similar culture with Bini, and speak an Edoid Language. Before the amalgamation of Nigeria, the Urhobos had less contact with those across the Niger and it was only during the Palm oil boom did they migrated West-ward, that was in the 1900-1980's. Because of the little or less contact with either region, the Urhobos have always maintained a neutral position.

Bini/Esan: Bini is an ancient kingdom that greatly influenced some Eastern subgroups and some parts of western region, because of their ancient glory, they have maintained a neutral ground and have resisted several attempt to lump them with either East or West, as we can see with their battles with Awolowo in the then Western region.

Anioma: Being an Igbo speaking people, they have maintained a good relationship with their blood relations across the Niger, during the Civil War, they were the only Midwestern group that showed support to the Eastern region.

Ijaw: They have always shown interest in uniting all Ijaw territory, while working with other groups in the region to fight for a common goal, so like the Urhobos and Binis, the Ijaws are neutral.

Itsekiri: They are a minority group whose language is more related to Eastern Yoruboid dialects like Ikale, Ilaje and Ijebu, they have good relationship with western Nigeria, during the creation of Midwest, notable Itsekiris like O.N. Rewane and the then Olu were against it. Well, they were greatly favored by Awolowo, whose Ijebu tribe founded several Itsekiri communities.

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Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by Edeyoung: 12:39pm On Apr 20, 2021
Olatomiwami:




See what too much weeds is causing, u need to change your weeds dealer.


Because i said d painful truth.....


Would you bet your money to it...
Re: Are The Old Midwest More Aligned To South East Or South West by leofab(f): 6:37pm On Apr 20, 2021
History was taken out of our school

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