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Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by Kobojunkiee: 3:21pm On May 09, 2021
enilove:

You are never making any sensible contributions to most threads.
All you do is to antagonize everyone's opinions.

The title of this thread is '' pray now or have your blood shed later ''.

What kind of prayers are you going to pray ?
Is it not for their evil plans not to come to pass?
And to pray as the Holy Spirit directs you.

But you just argue and argue for the sake of arguments.
Is not a right spirit to be too argumentative.

Try and learn , so as to grow spiritually.
i see you still don't get it!

1. I will not live in fear that I may die today or tomorrow or even the next moment. Instead I will focus my energy on obeying God's teachings and commandments

2. I will pray the same Lord's prayer which Jesus Christ said I should pray whenever I want to pray. Afterall, The Lord's prayer already has us praying to God for deliverance from evil. It is the Spirit of God that gave even that prayer through Jesus Christ to us.

You see argument where one who you expect to be in your corner stands against your view.... that is typical of a lot of you who live against God in the name of God.
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by enilove(m): 3:41pm On May 09, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
i see you still don't get it!

1. I will not live in fear that I may die today or tomorrow or even the next moment. Instead I will focus my energy on obeying God's teachings and commandments

2. I will pray the same Lord's prayer which Jesus Christ said I should pray whenever I want to pray. Afterall, The Lord's prayer already has us praying to God for deliverance from evil. It is the Spirit of God that gave even that prayer through Jesus Christ to us.

You see argument where one who you expect to be in your corner stands against your view.... that is typical of a lot of you who live against God in the name of God.

Is it not God's commandment to pray without ceasing ?

Let me ask you this question .
When Leah Shuabu was kidnapped , did you pray for her on your kneel , at least once ?
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by bobestman(m): 4:53pm On May 09, 2021
enilove:



Proverbs 14:7 KJV
Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge.

Oga you are the ignorant one here cos you can't answer the questions I asked. You are accusing another religion of evil when your own religion has their own faults. Muslims are good people, it's the ignorant one among them that do the evil. Christians also are good people but many things they do are not scriptural and biblical and therefore evil. You collect tithes which is a commandment given to levites and must be in a temple. Your pastors perform fake miracles and you don't know where they get the powers. Infact 90% of all you do in your churches are not biblical and wrong but you are calling other religion devil.

What is going on is part of the cleansing or sanitation to refine the children. We are all children of the highest including Muslims and Fulanis. This is a war between Esau and Jacob. Jacob must be refined and cleansed thru fire and burning in the hands of Esau before he can take back his possession. All the children of Jacob had become idolatrous by following religions not cast up(,Chrislamjew) your churches inclusive. You people think you are gentiles not knowing you are also seeds of Jacob by blood not faith(ignorance).

I can teach you most of the things happening now and also tell you why. All your religions are not cast up. The true messiah will not tell you Muslims are your enemies. We are all children and what is happening is for a reason and part of the SANITATION if you know what that means.
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 5:28pm On May 09, 2021
enilove:


Historically , how many Christians have you seen killing Christians for the spreading of Christianity?
And how many Christians have been killed in this nation by Muslims to spread their religion? Records abound .
What about around the world , these are uncountable.
And how did they spread their religion ? Was it by preaching or violence ? Judge for yourself.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

قٰتِلُوا الَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَلَا بِالْيَوْمِ الْأَاخِرِ وَلَا يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُۥ وَلَا يَدِينُونَ دِينَ الْحَقِّ مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُوا الْكِتٰبَ حَتّٰى يُعْطُوا الْجِزْيَةَ عَنْ يَدٍ وَهُمْ صٰغِرُونَ
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled."
(QS. At-Tawba 9: Verse 29)

"Historically"
You guys have done worse historically undecided
So of all the crimes going on your top fear in Ogun state is that the Muslims there will suck your blood for being Xtian?
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by enilove(m): 5:43pm On May 09, 2021
BeLookingIDIOT:

"Historically"
You guys have done worse historically undecided
So of all the crimes going on your top fear in Ogun state is that the Muslims there will suck your blood for being Xtian?

Prove your points.

This is not about fear. It is about rebuking and terminating evil agendas .

If the Muslim should come out openly and declare wars against Christians globally , they can't last 2weeks before they will be exterminated .

But they are cowards that attack innocent people secretly .
They are not only cowards but devilish .

This thread is to get prepared against their evil plans.

And if you are a Muslim , go and inform you devilish people that God shall waste them as He wasted them in the past.
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by mhmsadyq(m): 5:51pm On May 09, 2021
enilove:


It is not by force , go and pray for them.

But I will pray that their agenda would not come to pass , in Jesus name.

And all those who are agents of darkness who wants the agenda of the Muslim jihadists to come to pass , shall be wasted along with the evil jihadists , in Jesus name.

Amen.


LNGKMD!

Now the Islamaphobia begins.

I am enjoying this!
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by mhmsadyq(m): 5:53pm On May 09, 2021
enilove:


I live in Ogun state.

My blood shall not be shed , in Jesus' name.

Anyone planning evil for the Christians in this nation shall not succeed and every weapon of destructions bought to destroy churches and to waste lives of the Christians shall be used to destroy those who bought them , in the name of Jesus.

Amen.

LNGKMD!
Trinitarian Christians are the evil bro.
Be careful what you pray.
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by enilove(m): 6:02pm On May 09, 2021
mhmsadyq:


LNGKMD!

Now the Islamaphobia begins.

I am enjoying this!

You are enjoying it because you are evil and later on the devil will enjoy it when you are suffering in hell.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

وَإِنْ مِّنْكُمْ إِلَّا وَارِدُهَا  ۚ كَانَ عَلٰى رَبِّكَ حَتْمًا مَّقْضِيًّا
"And there is none of you except he will come to it ( hell ). This is upon your Lord an inevitability decreed."
(QS. Maryam 19: Verse 71)
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by mhmsadyq(m): 6:10pm On May 09, 2021
enilove:


Historically , how many Christians have you seen killing Christians for the spreading of Christianity?
And how many Christians have been killed in this nation by Muslims to spread their religion? Records abound .
What about around the world , these are uncountable.
And how did they spread their religion ? Was it by preaching or violence ? Judge for yourself.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

قٰتِلُوا الَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَلَا بِالْيَوْمِ الْأَاخِرِ وَلَا يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُۥ وَلَا يَدِينُونَ دِينَ الْحَقِّ مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُوا الْكِتٰبَ حَتّٰى يُعْطُوا الْجِزْيَةَ عَنْ يَدٍ وَهُمْ صٰغِرُونَ
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled."
(QS. At-Tawba 9: Verse 29)


Nonsense!

I believe it is what your religion did in the past that is making your God insecure of the future.

You are afraid you might be slaughtered.

Muslims are better than that!
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by mhmsadyq(m): 6:14pm On May 09, 2021
enilove:


Prove your points.

This is not about fear. It is about rebuking and terminating evil agendas .

If the Muslim should come out openly and declare wars against Christians globally , they can't last 2weeks before they will be exterminated .

But they are cowards that attack innocent people secretly .
They are not only cowards but devilish .

This thread is to get prepared against their evil plans.

And if you are a Muslim , go and inform you devilish people that God shall waste them as He wasted them in the past.


LNGKMD!
Fear of Islam has turned you to a clown.

How do you feel after saying these?
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by mhmsadyq(m): 6:16pm On May 09, 2021
enilove:


You are enjoying it because you are evil and later on the devil will enjoy it when you are suffering in hell.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

وَإِنْ مِّنْكُمْ إِلَّا وَارِدُهَا  ۚ كَانَ عَلٰى رَبِّكَ حَتْمًا مَّقْضِيًّا
"And there is none of you except he will come to it ( hell ). This is upon your Lord an inevitability decreed."
(QS. Maryam 19: Verse 71)





Clowning...
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by livingchrist: 6:20pm On May 09, 2021
enilove:
PRAY NOW OR HAVE YOUR BLOOD SHED LATER

I was working on some documents in my office this morning, the 6th day of May, 2021. Exactly at 9:25am, the Lord Jesus Christ entered my office. His countenance was saturated with sorrow like one who is bereaved of His loved ones. The moment I saw Him, I became afraid. Then He said to me, "Son, I am in deep pains. The reason is that what God have been warning my people about for a long time is almost taking place. For a very long time - more than two years now, God have been warning Christians in Nigeria to pray seriously against the islamization of Nigeria but they did not take it very serious except very few. They relaxed and were fighting themselves. They don't realized that they were besieged by their enemies, even in their churches, their enemies have spies who report regularly to them with information about what the Christians are doing.

Now, the Islams are ready to take over Nigeria. They are set for actions while my people are relaxing and concentrating on their businesses. They love their monies more than their lives. Those who were killed, do they still do their businesses?

Christians in Nigeria should know that their enemies have marked them for death. While their enemies are busy equipping themselves, Christians are busy talking about their businesses and investments. They monitor their monies in the banks but they don't even keep watch over their environments at nights. They believed that God is watching over them daily which is correct but God cannot pray to Himself. It is the responsibilities of the Christians to watch and use their findings during the watch hours to pray to God for defence and other things.

If effectual and consistent prayers are not made over what is happening in Nigeria currently, before the year 2021 ends, Nigeria will become a global center of news headlines because what will happen in Nigeria will shake and as well affect the whole countries in the world.

Son, I know that some Christians are still praying, but the reason I came to you now is because the next stage of attacks on the communities and states in Nigeria cannot be controlled by the security agencies. Churches are going to be burnt down and clergies will be killed. More security agencies will be killed for defending lives and property. There will be an unspeakable and unexplainable confusions everywhere, I Jesus Christ, said, everywhere and not in some places. Banks and other offices will be shut down including major market centers in the country. Fuel stations will be burnt including other properties. All these are targeted to the actualization of the Islamization and disruption of national peace in the country. And if such happens, Christianity will be converted to Islam - what that means is that Christians will be forced to become Muslims. It has already started gradually but the next is that there is going to be massive killing in the Christian communities and a lot of people who will become Muslims so that they will not be killed.

My people should rise up and cry to God in prayer and fasting for 120 days. The prayer should be from 6am to 3pm daily. This is because God wants to glorify Himself in Nigeria. No person should say that it does not concern him or his church. This is because when the time of the enemies comes, it will concern every person both young and old, rich and poor, educated and illiterate - everybody.

Then He continued, "My people should start this prayer from 1st June to 28th September 2021.

To be continued.
The enemy is planning serious attack against the church, every christian must rise up, put on the complete armour of God and fight this battle.
Our weapons are not carnal but mighty in God in pulling down strong holds.

2 Corinthians 10:4
(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; )

I was shown something in a revelation the coming danger and plans of the wicked, the truth is that a surprised attack is purpose to be launched against the church.

But we have the assurance of victory in Jesus blood and in our testimony.
The church should repent of playing politics, trying to align with worldly practice and ways, the church should repent from hypocrisy, pretense supporting and promoting false doctrine in the name of fame and wealthy.
Mercy, justice, love, the gospel of Jesus christ politics is never the solution but standing on the gospel of Jesus christ.
Even if it means persecution and death yet we will win the battle.
Many muslims and other unbelievers are littered every where, the church should channel her resources into soul winning and stop deceiving ourselves with high mindedness, superfluity of nothingness, building expensive church buildings and other worldly ambition and pursuit.
The devil is smart he makes the church of focus on buildings,and other vanity while he focus on souls.
When we fail to bring these souls into the kingdom of Christ satan will gather them and use them against the church, this is what is happening in Nigeria.
What is needed in Nigeria is aggressive soul winning in the love God if even it means death.
Christians in Nigeria feel too big or sophisticated to the course of our Lord Jesus christ hence these problems.
Prayer for repentance for the church,
Prayer for repentance from the sin of
Pride, self centerdeness, materialism spiritual fornication, negligence, idolatry (many Christians idolize their church, GO because of fame, money, crowd and prophecies).
Sin of assumption.

The truth is when men slept that is when the enemy comes to sown his seed.

If the church is awake the seed could not being sown.
CAN and PFN are filled with ravenous wolf and false ministers who claim to represent the church.

In the days of the apostles there were no associations, not GOs or church denominations but yet they made the world to tremble.
It is selfishness, self centeredness, lust for greed, recognition, know it all, use of earthly knowledge or know how in the kingdom, the need to control and dominate that is ruling the church instead of the genuine love of God, that is why many churches now result to threat and scare, thereby driving many into darkness such as atheism, that is why the holy spirit seems to be quenched.
When we decide to use our know how and strength the holy, folds his hands and start looking at us.
While we pray, we must pray a prayer of repentance and revival for the church like daniel and hosea prayed.

Habakkuk 3:2
O LORD, I have heard thy speech, and was afraid: O LORD, revive thy work in the midst of the years, in the midst of the years make known; in wrath remember mercy.

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Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by Kobojunkiee: 6:21pm On May 09, 2021
enilove:

Is it not God's commandment to pray without ceasing ?

Let me ask you this question .
When Leah Shuabu was kidnapped , did you pray for her on your kneel , at least once ?
1. So one cannot pray without ceasing when even saying the Lord's prayer in obedience to God's very own commandment? undecided

2. I am even more curious to now if God said somewhere that one has to pray for Leah Shuabu at least once before you can be a true follower of Jesus Christ? undecided

3. You think it matters more that you pray for a person than it does living in direct obedience to God's very own commandments? Do you not see yet that all you do is in vain if you do it against God's own commandments? undecided
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 6:32pm On May 09, 2021
enilove:


Prove your points.

This is not about fear. It is about rebuking and terminating evil agendas .

If the Muslim should come out openly and declare wars against Christians globally , they can't last 2weeks before they will be exterminated .

But they are cowards that attack innocent people secretly .
They are not only cowards but devilish .

This thread is to get prepared against their evil plans.

And if you are a Muslim , go and inform you devilish people that God shall waste them as He wasted them in the past.

Is there anyone that is not devilish to you guys .When has your god wasted them in the past?
Anyway you can kill yourselves. I don't care.
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by enilove(m): 6:37pm On May 09, 2021
livingchrist:
The enemy is planning serious attack against the church, every christian must rise up, put on the complete armour of God and fight this battle.
Our weapons are not carnal but mighty in God in pulling down strong holds.

2 Corinthians 10:4
(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; )

I was shown something in a revelation the coming danger and plans of the wicked, the truth is that a surprised attack is purpose to be launched against the church.

But we have the assurance of victory in Jesus blood and in our testimony.
The church should repent of playing politics, trying to align with worldly practice and ways, the church should repent from hypocrisy, pretense supporting and promoting false doctrine in the name of fame and wealthy.
Mercy, justice, love, the gospel of Jesus christ politics is never the solution but standing on the gospel of Jesus christ.
Even if it means persecution and death yet we will win the battle.
Many muslims and other unbelievers are littered every where, the church should channel her resources into soul winning and stop deceiving ourselves with high mindedness, superfluity of nothingness, building expensive church buildings and other worldly ambition and pursuit.
The devil is smart he makes the church of focus on buildings,and other vanity while he focus on souls.
When we fail to bring these souls into the kingdom of Christ satan will gather them and use them against the church, this is what is happening in Nigeria.
What is needed in Nigeria is aggressive soul winning in the love God if even it means death.
Christians in Nigeria feel too big or sophisticated to the course of our Lord Jesus christ hence these problems.
Prayer for repentance for the church,
Prayer for repentance from the sin of
Pride, self centerdeness, materialism spiritual fornication, negligence, idolatry (many Christians idolize their church, GO because of fame, money, crowd and prophecies).
Sin of assumption.

The truth is when men slept that is when the enemy comes to sown his seed.

If the church is awake the seed could not being sown.
CAN and PFN are filled with ravenous wolf and false ministers who claim to represent the church.

In the days of the apostles there were no associations, not GOs or church denominations but yet they made the world to tremble.
It is selfishness, self centeredness, lust for greed, recognition, know it all, use of earthly knowledge or know how in the kingdom, the need to control and dominate that is ruling the church instead of the genuine love of God, that is why many churches now result to threat and scare, thereby driving many into darkness such as atheism, that is why the holy spirit seems to be quenched.
When we decide to use our know how and strength the holy, folds his hands and start looking at us.
While we pray, we must pray a prayer of repentance and revival for the church like daniel and hosea prayed.

Habakkuk 3:2
O LORD, I have heard thy speech, and was afraid: O LORD, revive thy work in the midst of the years, in the midst of the years make known; in wrath remember mercy.


God bless you .

You are 100% right. The church is sleeping while the enemy is not sleeping.
They are busy chasing the shadow and neglecting the substance.

We need prayer and repentance as you said.
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by enilove(m): 7:44pm On May 09, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
1. So one cannot pray without ceasing when even saying the Lord's prayer in obedience to God's very own commandment? undecided

2. I am even more curious to now if God said somewhere that one has to pray for Leah Shuabu at least once before you can be a true follower of Jesus Christ? undecided

3. You think it matters more that you pray for a person than it does living in direct obedience to God's very own commandments? Do you not see yet that all you do is in vain if you do it against God's own commandments? undecided

Was it the Lords prayer Jesus prayed that made his sweat looked like blood ?

Luke 22:44 KJV
And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.

I just wanted prove to you that you are an hypocrite.
It is your responsibility to pray for your fellow human being who is in danger ?

How can you pray for your enemy when you can't pray for your friend.
Is that not what Jesus meant by saying , '' love your neighbours as yourself' ?
If Leah were to be your daughter won't you pray for her to be released ?
But you are hypocritically saying we should pray for our enemies because it is God's commandment but you can't pray for your friend.

Like I said before , you hardly make sense in most of your posts.
For example , you expect God to tell you to pray for Leah before knowing you need to pray for her. Where is your love for your neighbours when you can't pray for them?

I perceive you are a teenager who does not know what it takes to train children .

Lastly , is the Lords prayer you will pray for Boko Haram to release their captives ?

I can't call you a baby Christian because you are not a Christian , I would have called you one.

Give your life to Christ and start to make meaningful contributions to ''nairaland''.
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by enilove(m): 7:52pm On May 09, 2021
BeLookingIDIOT:

Is there anyone that is not devilish to you guys .When has your god wasted them in the past?

Yes . Those who love their neighbours as themselves are not devilish but those who are shedding people's blood are devilish.
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 8:08pm On May 09, 2021
enilove:


Yes . Those who love their neighbours as themselves are not devilish but those who are shedding people's blood are devilish.

You guys have called everyone else devilish .
You ruminating and planning about wasting and committing genocide is surely loving your neighbours,abi?
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by Kobojunkiee: 8:14pm On May 09, 2021
enilove:

Was it the Lords prayer Jesus prayed that made his sweat looked like blood ?

Luke 22:44 KJV
And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.

I just wanted prove to you that you are an hypocrite.
It is your responsibility to pray for your fellow human being who is in danger ?

How can you pray for your enemy when you can't pray for your friend.
Is that not what Jesus meant by saying , '' love your neighbours as yourself' ?
If Leah were to be your daughter won't you pray for her to be released ?
But you are hypocritically saying we should pray for our enemies because it is God's commandment but you can't pray for your friend.

Like I said before , you hardly make sense in most of your posts.
For example , you expect God to tell you to pray for Leah before knowing you need to pray for her. Where is your love for your neighbours when you can't pray for them?

I perceive you are a teenager who does not know what it takes to train children .

Lastly , is the Lords prayer you will pray for Boko Haram to release their captives ?

I can't call you a baby Christian because you are not a Christian , I would have called you one.

Give your life to Christ and start to make meaningful contributions to ''nairaland''.
Note that everything I have said so far on this is very much in line with the very teachings of Jesus Christ, something you don't seem to agree and hence feel antagonized by.

1. Praying the Lord's prayers is obedience of the commandments of Jesus Christ

2. Loving your enemy is in obedience with the Teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ

3. Avoiding vain worship and doctrines that are not of Jesus Christ is in obedience of the commandments of Jesus Christ.

There are no such things as baby or adult Christian's in the Kingdom of God. Jesus Christ made this more than clear to you when He declared that the first shall be the last and the last shall be the first. We are all going the judgement by the same Rules..no matter how great or small that you think yourself to be. undecided

That you conveniently continue to avoid responding to questions asked leads me to sufficiently conclude at this point the rest of this battle you are having needs to take place between you and God Himself. undecided
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by enilove(m): 9:13pm On May 09, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Note that everything I have said so far on this is very much in line with the very teachings of Jesus Christ, something you don't seem to agree and hence feel antagonized by.

1. Praying the Lord's prayers is obedience of the commandments of Jesus Christ

2. Loving your enemy is in obedience with the Teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ

3. Avoiding vain worship and doctrines that are not of Jesus Christ is in obedience of the commandments of Jesus Christ.

There are no such things as baby or adult Christian's in the Kingdom of God. Jesus Christ made this more than clear to you when He declared that the first shall be the last and the last shall be the first. We are all going the judgement by the same Rules..no matter how great or small that you think yourself to be. undecided

That you conveniently continue to avoid responding to questions asked leads me to sufficiently conclude at this point the rest of this battle you are having needs to take place between you and God Himself. undecided

1) Jesus did not tell you to limit your prayers to the 'Lord's prayer'.
That was just a guide for his disciplines.

They asked Jesus , ''teach us HOW to pray'' and not 'WHAT' to pray.
Is it only the Lords prayer you say when you pray ?

2) Loving your enemies does not mean you should not pray to prevent the enemies from wasting your life.

3) To pray against people who wants to hinder the Gospel is vain worship and doctrines ? How about this :

Acts 13:9-12 KJV
Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, [10] And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? [11] And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand. [12] Then the deputy, when he saw what was done, believed, being astonished at the doctrine of the Lord.

This Barjesus did not do 1% of the evil that Islam has done against Christians and the work of the Lord , but was prayed against by Paul.
Paul wrote about Love and knew everything about the teachings of Jesus Christ but still prayed against the enemy .

4) So you don't know there are baby Christians?

Hebrews 5:12-14 KJV
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. [13] For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. [14] But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by Kobojunkiee: 9:24pm On May 09, 2021
enilove:


1) Jesus did not tell you to limit your prayers to the 'Lord's prayer'.
That was just a guide for his disciplines.

They asked Jesus , ''teach us HOW to pray'' and not 'WHAT' to pray.
Is it only the Lords prayer you say when you pray ?

2) Loving your enemies does not mean you should not pray to prevent the enemies from wasting your life.

3) To pray against people who wants to hinder the Gospel is vain worship and doctrines ? How about this :

Acts 13:9-12 KJV
Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, [10] And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? [11] And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand. [12] Then the deputy, when he saw what was done, believed, being astonished at the doctrine of the Lord.

This Barjesus did not do 1% of the evil that Islam has done against Christians and the work of the Lord , but was prayed against by Paul.
Paul wrote about Love and knew everything about the teachings of Jesus Christ but still prayed against the enemy .

4) So you don't know there are baby Christians?

Hebrews 5:12-14 KJV
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. [13] For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. [14] But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Again.....
Kobojunkiee:
Note that everything I have said so far on this is very much in line with the very teachings of Jesus Christ, something you don't seem to agree and hence feel antagonized by.

1. Praying the Lord's prayers is obedience of the commandments of Jesus Christ

2. Loving your enemy is in obedience with the Teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ

3. Avoiding vain worship and doctrines that are not of Jesus Christ is in obedience of the commandments of Jesus Christ.

There are no such things as baby or adult Christian's in the Kingdom of God. Jesus Christ made this more than clear to you when He declared that the first shall be the last and the last shall be the first. We are all going the judgement by the same Rules..no matter how great or small that you think yourself to be. undecided

That you conveniently continue to avoid responding to questions asked leads me to sufficiently conclude at this point the rest of this battle you are having needs to take place between you and God Himself. undecided
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by Bruno3000(m): 9:54pm On May 09, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
At least you are honest in your fervor that you are against the muslims and against God in all this too. undecided
I'm against the terrorist groups that call themselves Muslims. They will all burn in hell on the day of judgment.
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by Kobojunkiee: 10:31pm On May 09, 2021
Bruno3000:
I'm against the terrorist groups that call themselves Muslims. They will all burn in hell on the day of judgment.
And in the same token you are against God who declared you must love that terrorist group(people) and pray for them instead... that is what we are on here. undecided

Can you love someone you are against? undecided
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by Bruno3000(m): 2:53pm On May 10, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
And in the same token you are against God who declared you must love that terrorist group(people) and pray for them instead... that is what we are on here. undecided

Can you love someone you are against? undecided
Light and darkness have nothing in common. Those that practice evil cannot be in the same page with the righteous. Simple. Which do u represent?

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Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by enilove(m): 3:06pm On May 10, 2021
Bruno3000:
Light and darkness have nothing in common. Those that practice evil cannot be in the same page with the righteous. Simple. Which do u represent?

Don't mind that kobojunkiee guy , he is an hypocrite .

I asked why Paul did not pray for Barjesus who was hindering the gospel , he couldn't answer . He just reposted nonsense which did not corelate with the question.

I also asked him whether he prayed for Leah Shuabu since she was kidnapped , he told me he did not see it in the Bible where God said he should pray for Leah Shuabu.

I think the guy is a teenager who inherited spirit of argument somewhere.

Let him be .
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by Kobojunkiee: 4:25pm On May 10, 2021
Bruno3000:
Light and darkness have nothing in common. Those that practice evil cannot be in the same page with the righteous. Simple. Which do u represent?
Jesus Christ, the Truth of God, no send anyone of His own on mission to separate light and darkness. In John 3 vs 18 -21, He made it more than clear that that job is God's and God's alone and He already judged and condemned the darkness in the world even from before your very time. So, those tha practice evil are not your concern -never have been. undecided

He called you out from that same evil so you can practice good instead... be an agent of light to the world. But if you a so-called agent of light are filled with darkness still..since you continue to live in hate of your enemies -antiChrist in nature - are you any better, in the sight of God, than those you love to hate? undecided
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by Bruno3000(m): 7:19pm On May 10, 2021
[quote author=Kobojunkiee post=101556392] Jesus Christ, the Truth of God, no send anyone of His own on mission to separate light and darkness. In John 3 vs 18 -21, He made it more than clear that that job is God's and God's alone and He already judged and condemned the darkness in the world even from before your very time. So, those tha practice evil are not your concern -never have been. undecided

He called you out from that same evil so you can practice good instead... be an agent of light to the world. But if you a so-called agent of light are filled with darkness still..since you continue to live in hate of your enemies -antiChrist in nature - are you any better, in the sight of God, than those you love to hate? undecided[/quoteWhat the hell are u saying? Mr Man this life is war (spiritually and physically) Better chose whose side your own, if you've got wisdom chose to do good by rejecting any form of evil. Period. Don't u think every generation has got its own Pharaoh? If u like embrace ur Pharaoh and be consumed by evil as for me and my household we will continue to resist and fight every Pharaoh our lives in Jesus name. Amen.

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Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by Kobojunkiee: 7:29pm On May 10, 2021
Bruno3000:

What the hell are u saying? Mr Man this life is war (spiritually and physically) Better chose whose side your own, if you've got wisdom chose to do good by rejecting any form of evil. Period. Don't u think every generation has got its own Pharaoh? If u like embrace ur Pharaoh and be consumed by evil as for me and my household we will continue to resist and fight every Pharaoh our lives in Jesus name. Amen.
This life is war? ROFLMAO! grin wink grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

Who told you Jesus Christ came so that you can engage in battles born of your delusions? The only tha exists is in your mind.... Jesus Christ alredy told you He has overcome the world on your behalf.... what He calls His followers to living is a life lived in complete surrender to Him, the one who has won the battle between the light and the dark. undecided

There are no pharaohs or babylonians... for those who are of the Kingdom of God. You should have abandoned your Pharaoic delusions, and delusions of war, in the world where they belong. undecided

Please, You need to be sure you belong in the Kingdom of God and are not still lost in this world ... cause those you live in the Kingdom if God live above the headlines and news of this world(tweets, FB craze, newstrends etc.). And you need to reorient your mind so you are sure who it is you serve. Jesus Christ or the delusions of this world... undecided
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by enilove(m): 8:03pm On May 10, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
This life is war? ROFLMAO! grin wink grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

Who told you Jesus Christ came so that you can engage in battles born of your delusions? The only tha exists is in your mind.... Jesus Christ alredy told you He has overcome the world on your behalf.... what He calls His followers to living is a life lived in complete surrender to Him, the one who has won the battle between the light and the dark. undecided

There are no pharaohs or babylonians... for those who are of the Kingdom of God. You should have abandoned your Pharaoic delusions, and delusions of war, in the world where they belong. undecided

Please, You need to be sure you belong in the Kingdom of God and are not still lost in this world ... cause those you live in the Kingdom if God live above the headlines and news of this world(tweets, FB craze, newstrends etc.). And you need to reorient your mind so you are sure who it is you serve. Jesus Christ or the delusions of this world... undecided

You don't read your Bible.

Matthew 11:12 KJV
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

Jesus overcame the world does not mean Satan will not contend with you.
You key yourself into that victory of Jesus by :
Accepting him as your saviour.
By being born again .
By living in righteousness
By reading your Bible and meditating it
By preaching the gospel
By having faith in the Lord
By being prayerful.

Ephesians 6:12 KJV
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The Apostle who wrote the scriptures above knew more than you and I . He told us '' we wrestle '' .
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by Kobojunkiee: 8:14pm On May 10, 2021
enilove:

You don't read your Bible.

Matthew 11:12 KJV
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

Jesus overcame the world does not mean Satan will not contend with you.
You key yourself into that victory of Jesus by :
Accepting him as your saviour.
By being born again .
By living in righteousness
By reading your Bible and meditating it
By preaching the gospel
By having faith in the Lord
By being prayerful.

Ephesians 6:12 KJV
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The Apostle who wrote the scriptures above knew more than you and I . He told us '' we wrestle '' .
1. Jesus Christ only informed you, in Matthew 11, of the schemes of the Violent against His Kingdom. Jesus Christ never told you to fight against those violent - those who try to steal His Kingdom from Him - the false teachers and the prophets. Nor did He, Jesus Christ, encourage you to try to be like those violent in any way or form. undecided

It is His, Jesus Christ's Kingdom after all, and He alone is well able to fight all His battles. Something He made clear to you when He declared that He had overcome the world for your sake. undecided

2. When Satan asked to test Peter, what did Jesus Christ do? Jesus Christ did not attack Satan, nor did He rebuke Satan to keep Peter safe or whatever you lot think you can do where Satan is concerned. No, instead Jesus Christ prayed for Peter and then handed him, over, to be tested by Satan. Do you know what Jesus Christ then told Peter, He told Peter to help the others when they are tested in similar manner. undecided

If you think that God is in these "battles" you all keep fighting in your minds, you are deceiving yourselves.

3. Key yourself into victory of Jesus Christ? Be sure that when Jesus Christ promised you suffering and tribulations, right before He announced that He had overcome the world on your behalf, He meant it too. As one who lives in Jesus Christ, be prepared to endure sufferings and tribulation but knowing that it is all for your good is what He said. undecided

4. Where the Kingdom of God is concerned, obedience is the one and only key. You can pray till you are black and blue at the end of your day, but if you refuse to obey the other laws contained in the contract that is Jesus Christ, you are no better than the Pharisees where faith and righteousness is concerned. undecided
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by enilove(m): 9:29pm On May 10, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
1. Jesus Christ only informed you, in Matthew 11, of the schemes of the Violent against His Kingdom. Jesus Christ never told you to fight against those violent - those who try to steal His Kingdom from Him - the false teachers and the prophets. Nor did He, Jesus Christ, encourage you to try to be like those violent in any way or form. undecided

It is His, Jesus Christ's Kingdom after all, and He alone is well able to fight all His battles. Something He made clear to you when He declared that He had overcome the world for your sake. undecided

2. When Satan asked to test Peter, what did Jesus Christ do? Jesus Christ did not attack Satan, nor did He rebuke Satan to keep Peter safe or whatever you lot think you can do where Satan is concerned. No, instead Jesus Christ prayed for Peter and then handed him, over, to be tested by Satan. Do you know what Jesus Christ then told Peter, He told Peter to help the others when they are tested in similar manner. undecided

If you think that God is in these "battles" you all keep fighting in your minds, you are deceiving yourselves.

3. Key yourself into victory of Jesus Christ? Be sure that when Jesus Christ promised you suffering and tribulations, right before He announced that He had overcome the world on your behalf, He meant it too. As one who lives in Jesus Christ, be prepared to endure sufferings and tribulation but knowing that it is all for your good is what He said. undecided

4. Where the Kingdom of God is concerned, obedience is the one and only key. You can pray till you are black and blue at the end of your day, but if you refuse to obey the other laws contained in the contract that is Jesus Christ, you are no better than the Pharisees where faith and righteousness is concerned. undecided

The kingdom of heaven suffers violence and the violent ones take it by force means Satan and his demons are violently battling children of God to hinder them from fulfilling their destinies . Just like they did to John the Baptist by cutting short his life.
To be violent means to be determined to make heaven at all cost and be prayerful.
Ephesians 6:12 says our fight is against PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS AND SPIRITUAL WICKED POWER IN THE SECOND HEAVEN.
Why did the Bible tell us that we wrestle if this world is not a battle field ?

Why did the Bible mention arrows and darts ?

Ephesians 6:13-18 KJV
Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. [14] Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; [15] And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; [16] Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. [17] And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: [18] Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

Verse 18 says praying always.
Re: Pray Now Or Have Your Blood Shed Later by Kobojunkiee: 10:28pm On May 10, 2021
enilove:

The kingdom of heaven suffers violence and the violent ones take it by force means Satan and his demons are violently battling children of God to hinder them from fulfilling their destinies . Just like they did to John the Baptist by cutting short his life.
To be violent means to be determined to make heaven at all cost and be prayerful.
Ephesians 6:12 says our fight is against PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS AND SPIRITUAL WICKED POWER IN THE SECOND HEAVEN.
Why did the Bible tell us that we wrestle if this world is not a battle field ?

Why did the Bible mention arrows and darts ?

Ephesians 6:13-18 KJV
Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. [14] Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; [15] And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; [16] Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. [17] And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: [18] Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

Verse 18 says praying always.
1. The Kingdom of God consists of 2 domains - Heaven and Hell.

2. If you would read the Bible for yourself instead of letting others read their own meanings into it for you, you would note that Jesus Christ said nothing of the such you claim of the Kingdom of God in that passage.

3. Pay attention when you read through undecided

a) the warning Jesus Christ gave spells out the period within which the statement He made applied... from the time that John the Bapstist showed up, up until the point where Jesus Christ Christ with the Gospel of the Kingdom of God. This suggests that after Jesus Christ came presenting His Truth to the world, the attempts to take the Kingdom of God by force ended. undecided
Matthew 11 vs 7 - 16 (ERV)


7. When John’s followers left, Jesus began talking to the people about John. He said, “What did you people go out to the desert to see? Someone who is weak, like a stem of grass[a] blowing in the wind?
8. Really, what did you expect to see? Someone dressed in fine clothes? Of course not. People who wear fine clothes are all in kings’ palaces.
9. So what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, John is a prophet. But I tell you, he is more than that.
10. This Scripture was written about him:

‘Listen! I will send my messenger ahead of you.
He will prepare the way for you.’

11. “The truth is that John the Baptizer is greater than anyone who has ever come into this world. But even the least important person in God’s kingdom is greater than John.
12. Since the time John the Baptizer came until now, God’s kingdom has been going forward strongly.[b] And people have been trying to take control of it by force.
13. Before John came, the Law of Moses and all the prophets told about the things that would happen.
14. And if you believe what they said, then John is Elijah.[c] He is the one they said would come.
15. You people who hear me, listen!

16. “What can I say about the people who live today? What are they like? The people today are like children sitting in the marketplace. One group of children calls to the other group,
b) Clearly in verse 12, you are told that those who violently attempted to take the Kingdom of God by force where people ...false teachers/prophets, and the Pharisees and Sadducees of His time. undecided

4. Learn to refuse every urge to inject your own delusions into what is written in scripture and only then will you realize that the imaginary enemies you fight have nothing to do with what you were called to do by Jesus Christ. undecided

5. Where Paul suggested that you pray without ceasing,I believe he may have simply been repeating w Jesus Christ's message that you continue to ask until you get what you asked for, and not that you pray every moment of every day. Jesus Christ Himself did not do that. The Lord's prayer which He recommended to us works even when said just once daily. undecided

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