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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Hyperchi(m): 9:04am On May 17, 2021
SegFault:

Read history from your useless story book called the Bible. Shift joor. Kingxsamz come and see oh.

am not referring to bible, but what happened, they lost to British and they decide to give the land back to the owner.
it not the Arabs that gave it back
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Hyperchi(m): 9:05am On May 17, 2021
Jman24:


Which Israel? No body is the owner of anything over there. Certain gladiators just sat together and named a place Israel
so stop complaining that they are collecting ppl land
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by rakish(m): 9:11am On May 17, 2021
ReubenE:

I've treated your question in my lead post.

In international politics, Power belongs to the super structure. Law, morality/ethics etc belongs to the substructure.

International law most often is a mere expression on paper when it does not align with the interest of the Big Players.

In this case, the US is involved so "Might is Right"
Well, you've proven my point, thanks. Your posts shows how unfair the lack of enforceability of international law is and it's inhumane effect on the Palestinians unfortunately. The laws are not been enforced. Most leaders in the US and Europe are afraid of holding Israel accountable or speaking the truth for political reasons—it will be political suicide for them. And the people being killed are the women and children, the helpless, defenseless ones.
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by SouthEastFacts: 9:14am On May 17, 2021
v2:
Read History.
The land was initially occupied by the Jews. There was a name change after the land was conquered by the Romans

In 66 CE, the First Jewish–Roman War began. The revolt was put down by the future Roman emperors Vespasian and Titus. In the Siege of Jerusalem in 70 CE, the Romans destroyed much of the Temple in Jerusalem and, according to some accounts, plundered artifacts from the Temple, such as the Menorah. Jews continued to live in their land in significant numbers, the Kitos War of 115–117 notwithstanding, until Julius Severus ravaged Judea while putting down the Bar Kokhba revolt of 132–136. 985 villages were destroyed and most of the Jewish population of central Judaea was essentially wiped out – killed, sold into slavery, or forced to flee. Banished from Jerusalem, which was renamed Aelia Capitolina, the Jewish population now centered on Galilee, initially at Yavneh.

After the Jewish-Roman wars (66–135), Hadrian changed the name of Iudaea province to Syria Palaestina and Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina in an attempt to erase the historical ties of the Jewish people to the region. In addition, after 70, Jews and Jewish Proselytes were only allowed to practice their religion if they paid the Jewish tax, and after 135 were barred from Jerusalem except for the day of Tisha B'Av. the day of Tisha B'Av.

Around the year 390, during the Byzantine period, the imperial province of Syria Palaestina was reorganized into Palaestina Prima, Palaestina Secunda and Palaestina Salutaris. Following the Muslim conquest, place names that were in use by the Byzantine administration generally continued to be used in Arabic. The use of the name "Palestine" became common in Early Modern English, was used in English and Arabic during the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem. In the 20th century the name was used by the British to refer to "Mandatory Palestine," a territory from the former Ottoman Empire which had been divided in the Sykes–Picot Agreement and secured by Britain via the Mandate for Palestine obtained from the League of Nations. Starting from 2013, the term was officially used in the eponymous "State of Palestine." Both incorporated geographic regions from the land commonly known as Palestine, into a new state whose territory was named Palestine.
And the funniest thing was the Roman Empire choose the name of Isrealis worst enemy.

Philistines were Israeli biggest enemy during the formative year of Israel and Ancient Greeks call Philistines, Palestinaes which is anglicized as Palestine, the name the region is known today.

The funniest things again is these Philistines were destroyed by the Assyrian Empire more than 600 years before the Romans conquered Jerusalem and renamed Eretz Israel, Palestine.

Gaza is abroginal Philistine city and today Palestinians control the city and Israel shouldn't encroach.

Ashkelon and Ashdod are both Philistian cities which Israel annexed and I don't see them returning the cities.

But Jerusalem has never been a Palestinian terrority. Instead of the Arab fighting to reclaim Ashkelon and Ashdod, they are busy fighting for a no-go area.

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by drewsman: 9:14am On May 17, 2021
Againstlies:
Is isreal only a Jews country in history, most of the Muslim countries are Jews people conquered by Muslims and forcely converted to Islam.


Even Egypt is The majority of Christians which belong to the Coptic Orthodox Church,
Iran are Persian and they were never a muslims countries in history, Muslims conquered them and forcefully converted them to Muslims..
Most of the Arab countries are Jews and christians and they are being forcely converted to Muslims, Muslims spread their religion with polygamy and violence..
I don't say what I don't know....
You can study more about history, even Nigeria is never a fulani country, fulanis muslim terrorist came to Nigeria conquered the Hausas and chased the Yoruba out from Nigeria to Benin republic..



That is an abridged history that at best date back to 1947. The original Palestinians are descendants of the Philistines and were largely Christians and not Arabs. Arabian intermixing came much later after the Muslim invasion and conquest of the region shortly after Mohammed's death. Most of the Jews left due to wars and persecution in the region. That Temple Mount where the Al-Aqsa Mosque was first built by Umar centuries after Jesus came, there existed the First Temple of the Jews as far back as 600BCE which is centuries before Jesus came. It was destroyed around 585BCE but the Second Temple was again built and later destroyed around 70BCE more than 600 years before Mohammed and the first Al-Aqsa mosque (Note that the Al-Aqsa mosque had been destroyed twice by earthquakes and the current mosque is not the original one). The Temple Mount is one of the holiest if not the holiest sites of Judaism and the act of Umar building a mosque there to convert it to an Islamic holy site centuries after the First Temple was built on same land is a recipe for an everlasting strife.

If the Jews were exiled from the land they have been for centuries because they would not accept Islam and their neighbours accepted Islam, does that give the right for the neighbours to claim the Jewish lands? And then say years later when the Jews are returning back to their original lands, that they, the neighbours assisted the Jews with their own lands? Please let your knowledge of history be deep so you know the facts.

Evilgenuis jessejo Gamesmart officialsaw01

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by compton11(m): 9:40am On May 17, 2021
SouthEastFacts:

Your terrorists brothers have been begging on Alj Jazeera English Facebook page.
nigga u mean ESN ?
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by jaxxy(m): 9:57am On May 17, 2021
Tdotbluejays:

Lol. Ancestral land.

You forgot Abraham migrated from somewhere and met people at that region.

Everybody migrated from somewhere even we Nigerians, Americans, Egyptians, Arabs we are all migrants of an era. undecided
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Robertgreene1(m): 10:01am On May 17, 2021
vibre:

Did anybody tell you they are supporting Israel because they want Israel to become a Christian nation? The way some of you reason sef, must someone be of the same religion or tribe with you before you support their right to defend themselves?
right to defend themselves my foot...do u even know anything abt d history of Palestine?..who were d original inhabitants of palestine b4 d persecuted Jewish refugees escaping Nazi Germany started arriving in Palestine?...who received them when they were hopeless Refugees if not d same Palestinians they oppressing today?...how can u push people 2 d wall nd expect em not 2 fight back?...Gaza today is called an "open air prison" by some international observers...u can't go in..u can't go out..d isrealis control everything from aerial..land nd maritime borders down to water..food..medical nd energy supplies...they wall Arabs in like animals.. then control nd monitor their daily lives...isreali soldiers shoot Arabs who protest d occupation even little children that throw rocks at them...isreali politicians play politics with Palestinian blood...
p.m Benjamin Netayahu is facing some serious corruption charges abt 2 bring down his govt..next thing he did was 2 send police 2 Al aqsa mosque 2 injure nd arrest Arab worshippers knowing fully well they gonna retaliate with rockets...so he's gonna start another round of conflict with them nd elicit national sympathy nd support 2 save his neck...just like Ariel Sharon desecrated d same Al aqsa mosque with riot police back in 2000 just 2 elicit national support to win d then next election..which he indeed won..his actions culminating in a wave of violence known as d second intifada(uprising) that left some 4000 Arabs nd 1000 isrealis dead...u don't know nada abt intl politics nd history man...so go read up on history nd stop riding high on some uniformed igbo's sentiments here
nd 4 ur info...abu mu ezigbo nwafo igbo..mana mu agaghi eji maka ihe ndi ozo nekwu hapu ikwu nke bu eziokwu..ka o mesie..udo

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Godswrath(m): 10:37am On May 17, 2021
God bless the Jewish nation of Yis-rah-El.
No matter the plans and plots of the sons of Ishmael and their Islamic brothers against the Holy children of God will not succeed. God will foil all their plans and plots.
I stand by Yis-rah-El,
More bombing of this dogs(Hamas).
Viva Yis-rah-El.
God bless the Sovereign Nation of Israel.
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Everfrank(m): 10:44am On May 17, 2021
Againstlies:
Is isreal only a Jews country in history, most of the Muslim countries are Jews people conquered by Muslims and forcely converted to Islam.
Even Egypt is The majority of Christians which belong to the Coptic Orthodox Church,
Iran are Persian and they were never a muslims countries in history, Muslims conquered them and forcefully converted them to Muslims..
Most of the Arab countries are Jews and christians and they are being forcely converted to Muslims, Muslims spread their religion with polygamy and violence..
I don't say what I don't know....
You can study more about history, even Nigeria is never a fulani country, fulanis muslim terrorist came to Nigeria conquered the Hausas and chased the Yoruba out from Nigeria to Benin republic..



That is an abridged history that at best date back to 1947. The original Palestinians are descendants of the Philistines and were largely Christians and not Arabs. Arabian intermixing came much later after the Muslim invasion and conquest of the region shortly after Mohammed's death. Most of the Jews left due to wars and persecution in the region. That Temple Mount where the Al-Aqsa Mosque was first built by Umar centuries after Jesus came, there existed the First Temple of the Jews as far back as 600BCE which is centuries before Jesus came. It was destroyed around 585BCE but the Second Temple was again built and later destroyed around 70BCE more than 600 years before Mohammed and the first Al-Aqsa mosque (Note that the Al-Aqsa mosque had been destroyed twice by earthquakes and the current mosque is not the original one). The Temple Mount is one of the holiest if not the holiest sites of Judaism and the act of Umar building a mosque there to convert it to an Islamic holy site centuries after the First Temple was built on same land is a recipe for an everlasting strife.

If the Jews were exiled from the land they have been for centuries because they would not accept Islam and their neighbours accepted Islam, does that give the right for the neighbours to claim the Jewish lands? And then say years later when the Jews are returning back to their original lands, that they, the neighbours assisted the Jews with their own lands? Please let your knowledge of history be deep so you know the facts.

Evilgenuis jessejo Gamesmart officialsaw01


Foolish analysis.
Before the coming of Christianity these people worshipped traditionally. They were not Christians from creation.

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Babalola0920: 10:58am On May 17, 2021
BEFORE YOU START SHOUTING GOD OF ISRAEL REMEMBER THE NAME WAS NO WHERE TO BE FOUND IN 1940 SORRY HEEEE

MAYBE GOD NO KNOW WERE DEM DEY THAT TIME ABI GOD FORSAKE OTHER NATIONS NI ?
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by vibre: 11:00am On May 17, 2021
Robertgreene1:
right to defend themselves my foot...do u even know anything abt d history of Palestine?..who were d original inhabitants of palestine b4 d persecuted Jewish refugees escaping Nazi Germany started arriving in Palestine?...who received them when they were hopeless Refugees if not d same Palestinians they oppressing today?...how can u push people 2 d wall nd expect em not 2 fight back?...Gaza today is called an "open air prison" by some international observers...u can't go in..u can't go out..d isrealis control everything from aerial..land nd maritime borders down to water..food..medical nd energy supplies...they wall Arabs in like animals.. then control nd monitor their daily lives...isreali soldiers shoot Arabs who protest d occupation even little children that throw rocks at them...isreali politicians play politics with Palestinian blood...
p.m Benjamin Netayahu is facing some serious corruption charges abt 2 bring down his govt..next thing he did was 2 send police 2 Al aqsa mosque 2 injure nd arrest Arab worshippers knowing fully well they gonna retaliate with rockets...so he's gonna start another round of conflict with them nd elicit national sympathy nd support 2 save his neck...just like Ariel Sharon desecrated d same Al aqsa mosque with riot police back in 2000 just 2 elicit national support to win d then next election..which he indeed won..his actions culminating in a wave of violence known as d second intifada(uprising) that left some 4000 Arabs nd 1000 isrealis dead...u don't know nada abt intl politics nd history man...so go read up on history nd stop riding high on some uniformed igbo's sentiments here
nd 4 ur info...abu mu ezigbo nwafo igbo..mana mu agaghi eji maka ihe ndi ozo nekwu hapu ikwu nke bu eziokwu..ka o mesie..udo
Simple question, how did the Palestinians get to the land in question? Where they the original inhabitants? I know for a fact that the Jews lived on that land long before the Palestinians came there. If the Palestinians are fighting for a land they were displaced from, do the Jews not have the same right to fight for a land they were displaced from given that they were on that land much more earlier than the Palestinians?

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Lilraey: 11:53am On May 17, 2021
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by olaayinkha(m): 2:59pm On May 17, 2021
An ignorant fellow is easily known by their words and actions.
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by APOSTLECHUMA: 3:11pm On May 17, 2021
Staphylococcus:


No!

I believe God kept him alive to correct his mistakes.

He might be the influence to completely wipe out the Nigerian Palestine's
Nigerians are the real Philestine Baal worshippers while Igbos are the Jews. Remember pharoah, your follow idol worshipper who got buried beneath the sea of God's anger while trying to keep His children as pepertual slaves.
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by YungMillionaire: 3:13pm On May 17, 2021
vibre:
The bible is a ridiculous book of myths and legends.

Na so grin grin grin
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by sainttwist1(m): 3:47pm On May 17, 2021
Abid2020:
which arab? Did u mean dubai
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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by salykely(m): 3:57pm On May 17, 2021
benji93:
Please you are talking to a researcher, even though i am not a historian. So I am basically checking out your sources and comparing the information found to your assertions. Now you are being all over the place. My previous comment was clearly referring to the bolded in which you wrote Secondly you lied when u said the Arab countries started the 1948 war. Yes, Egypt started the 1973 October war in retaliation for the 1948 war. Israeli military historians agree with the fact that the war was started by Israel This clearly indicates that you know for sure that the Israelis started the 1948 war. I do not know how the six-day war came into this. Surely we can move on to that some other time, but I would appreciate it if you can address the 1948 war, then you can then talk about 1967 and other wars afterward.

first, let me correct my assertions out there. the 1970 war which is well known as the Yom Kippur war or October war was in retaliation for the Israeli attack on Egypt in1967, that war is popularly called the Six-day war.

The 1948 war was the independence war which broke out after the UN partition of Palestine and the eventual declaration of independence by Israel on May 14, 1948. I will refer you to some sources on how thing played out chronologically after the British announced their planned withdrawal from Palestine in honour of the partition.

One thing you will find for sure is the fact that there was civil unrest among the civilian populace owing to their rejection of the planned partition which took away 90% of their land. this civil unrest latter metamorphosed into riot. The Jews who were already anticipating this protest on the part of Palestinians took advantage of the chaos to unleash terror on the Palestinians and futher annexed lands outside the UN Partition.

The following are my reffrences:
"In internal discussion in 1938 [David Ben-Gurion] stated that 'after we become a strong force, as a result of the creation of a state, we shall abolish partition and expand into the whole of Palestine'...In 1948, Menachem Begin declared that: 'The partition of the Homeland is illegal. It will never be recognized. The signature of institutions and individuals of the partition agreement is invalid. It will not bind the Jewish people. Jerusalem was and will forever be our capital. Eretz Israel (the land of Israel) will be restored to the people of Israel, All of it. And forever." Noam Chomsky, "The Fateful Triangle."


"While the Yishuv's leadership formally accepted the 1947 Partition Resolution, large sections of Israel's society—including...Ben-Gurion—were opposed to or extremely unhappy with partition and from early on viewed the war as an ideal opportunity to expand the new state's borders beyond the UN earmarked partition boundaries and at the expense of the Palestinians." Israeli historian, Benny Morris, in "Tikkun", March/April 1998.


"In December 1947, the British announced that they would withdraw from Palestine by May 15, 1948. Palestinians in Jerusalem and Jaffa called a general strike against the partition. Fighting broke out in Jerusalem's streets almost immediately...Violent incidents mushroomed into all-out war...During that fateful April of 1948, eight out of thirteen major Zionist military attacks on Palestinians occurred in the territory granted to the Arab state." "Our Roots Are Still Alive" by the People Press Palestine Book Project.


"Menahem Begin, the Leader of the Irgun, tells how 'in Jerusalem, as elsewhere, we were the first to pass from the defensive to the offensive...Arabs began to flee in terror...Hagana was carrying out successful attacks on other fronts, while all the Jewish forces proceeded to advance through Haifa like a knife through butter'[b]...The Israelis now allege that the Palestine war began with the entry of the Arab armies into Palestine after 15 May 1948. But that was the second phase of the war; they overlook the massacres, expulsions and dispossessions which took place prior to that date and which necessitated Arab states' intervention." [/b]Sami Hadawi, "Bitter Harvest."

"For the entire day of April 9, 1948, Irgun and LEHI soldiers carried out the slaughter in a cold and premeditated fashion...The attackers 'lined men, women and children up against the walls and shot them,'...The ruthlessness of the attack on Deir Yassin shocked Jewish and world opinion alike, drove fear and panic into the Arab population, and led to the flight of unarmed civilians from their homes all over the country." Israeli author, Simha Flapan, "The Birth of Israel."


"By 1948, the Jew was not only able to 'defend himself' but to commit massive atrocities as well. Indeed, according to the former director of the Israeli army archives, 'in almost every village occupied by us during the War of Independence, acts were committed which are defined as war crimes, such as murders, massacres, and rapes'...Uri Milstein, the authoritative Israeli military historian of the 1948 war, goes one step further, maintaining that 'every skirmish ended in a massacre of Arabs.'" Norman Finkelstein, "Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict."
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by sainttwist1(m): 4:14pm On May 17, 2021
Kuginzi:

Must Israelites grab people's land by force?
so do Turkey, Iran, Iraq, etc
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Robertgreene1(m): 4:30pm On May 17, 2021
vibre:

Simple question, how did the Palestinians get to the land in question? Where they the original inhabitants? I know for a fact that the Jews lived on that land long before the Palestinians came there. If the Palestinians are fighting for a land they were displaced from, do the Jews not have the same right to fight for a land they were displaced from given that they were on that land much more earlier than the Palestinians?
oga if u re a good student of history...then u must know too well that mass migrations happen throughout history but lands remain...hence there is nothing like "d earlier owners of land" in historical perspective...people drift in and out of lands throughout history..hence d people a migrating tribe meet on a particular land upon arrival are 2 them the "original inhabitants"...let's take we igbos 4 instance...history tells us that we igbos are descendants of Eri who migrated from d middle East most probably Egypt...so are we d original owners of this current igboland?..what if say tommorow..one tribe like that just crops out of nowhere nd start laying claim 2 our lands claiming that their forefathers were d original owners of d land B4 they wr driven into exile or say we igbos go back 2 wherever it is we came from in the middle East nd start laying claims 2 lands there...what of all the descendants of d European settlers In the Americas..let them go back 2 Europe nd start laying claims 2 lands there as the lands their ancestors inhabited before they left 4 America na...nd mind u that B4 d European Jews started arriving in palestine..d minority jews already living there av been coexisting peacefully wit their majority Arab neigbours 4 centuries...it was d European Jews championed by d Zionist movement led by Theodr Herzl and David Ben-Gurion and heavily financed by Baron de Rotschild (one of d world's Richest men back then) nd other Rich European nd American jews dt borrowed a leaf from their European brothers' concept of colonialism nd then systematically colonised Palestine...with d political nd moral support of d then big three powers...the U.S...soviets nd Britain...
shalom..

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by vibre: 5:54pm On May 17, 2021
YungMillionaire:

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by YungMillionaire: 6:02pm On May 17, 2021
vibre:
God the father of the bible raped Mary, the virgin, to conceive Jesus my savior

Na wa o! grin grin grin
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by vibre: 6:05pm On May 17, 2021
YungMillionaire:

I am YungMillionaire, I am a helpless and hopeless dumbo. Don't be like me cry cry cry

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by YungMillionaire: 6:09pm On May 17, 2021
vibre:
The God of the bible is a rapist and a very jealous white man

Chai! Odiegwu! grin grin grin
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by vibre: 6:16pm On May 17, 2021
YungMillionaire:

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by YungMillionaire: 6:18pm On May 17, 2021
vibre:
The God of the bible is a sick demented racist, pro-slavery piece of fecal matter.

Na u talk am grin grin grin
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by vibre: 6:22pm On May 17, 2021
YungMillionaire:

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by YungMillionaire: 6:25pm On May 17, 2021
vibre:
My God is Jesus and he is a gay white Roman guy. I am a black man who bows down to a white man as savior.

Na wa oh grin grin grin
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by vibre: 6:26pm On May 17, 2021
YungMillionaire:

I am YungMillionaire, I am a disgusting piece of shit . Don't be like me cry cry cry

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by YungMillionaire: 6:28pm On May 17, 2021
vibre:
In my bible, Donkey speaking human language exists. My bible is a foolish book for foolish brains.

Na so. grin grin grin
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by vibre: 6:30pm On May 17, 2021
YungMillionaire:

I am YungMillionaire, I am the most stupid nincompoop ever . Don't be like me cry cry cry

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by YungMillionaire: 6:54pm On May 17, 2021
vibre:
Israel is a terrorist organization but I support Israel because I believe in the white man who is my savior Jesus Christ.

Na wa o! grin grin grin

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