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Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by livingchrist: 4:45pm On Jun 07, 2021
Hebrews 1:3
Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

1.Jesus is the brightness of God's glory meaning he is the manifestation of God's glory, without him there glory of God cannot be revealed or Express.

2. Jesus is the express image of his person.
The greek interlinear states that Jesus is the exact expression of the father's substance.

The meaning of this is that what of ever the father is in his character, Jesus is also.

All the qualities of the father is also in Jesus in i full and complete.
The qualities of the father such as love, mercy, goodness, righteousness, wisdom, care, patience, longsuffering and in other ways are also in Jesus.

Jesus is not different from his father in character, infact when we see Jesus and we see the father we wouldnt be surprised because there would not be any difference.

However, It does not mean that Jesus is the same person as the father, but it does mean that he has the exact character of the father.

Does this imply that Jesus is same diety as the father?
Implied! Yes, for Jesus to be the exact representation of the father he must be same deity as the father or put it in another way, he and the father are same God but two distinct person

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Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by dat9jaguy(m): 4:51pm On Jun 07, 2021
However, It does not mean that Jesus is the same person as the father, but it does mean that he has the exact character of the father.

Does this imply that Jesus is same diety as the father?
Implied! Yes, for Jesus to be the exact representation of the father he must be same deity as the father or put it in another way, he and the father are same God but two distinct person



This is a Pictorial representation of your argument

Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by livingchrist: 5:22pm On Jun 07, 2021
dat9jaguy:
However, It does not mean that Jesus is the same person as the father, but it does mean that he has the exact character of the father.

Does this imply that Jesus is same diety as the father?
Implied! Yes, for Jesus to be the exact representation of the father he must be same deity as the father or put it in another way, he and the father are same God but two distinct person



This is a Pictorial representation of your argument



It is not contradictory

Diety means essence or put it in simply the things that made God who he is.

Person means the ability to be self conscious.

Jesus is same as God but not the father meaning God is a trinity.
Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by dat9jaguy(m): 5:43pm On Jun 07, 2021
livingchrist:
It is not contradictory

Diety means essence or put it in simply the things that made God who he is.

Person means the ability to be self conscious.

Jesus is same as God but not the father meaning God is a trinity.


For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that who so ever beliveth in him shall not perish.

After Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, God said this is my son, in whom I am well pleased
Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by livingchrist: 8:41pm On Jun 07, 2021
dat9jaguy:


For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that who so ever beliveth in him shall not perish.

After Jesus was baptized by John the] Baptist, God said this is my son, in whom I am well pleased
Yes Jesus is the Son of God,
The son of God is God just as the son of man is man.
Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by dat9jaguy(m): 10:08pm On Jun 07, 2021
livingchrist:

Yes Jesus is the Son of God,
The son of God is God just as the son of man is man.

No sir, Son of God is Jesus Christ while son of man is man.
All these I'm saying it's from my own understanding but may God reveal the truth to us.
Peace.
Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by livingchrist: 10:20pm On Jun 07, 2021
dat9jaguy:


No sir, Son of God is Jesus Christ while son of man is man.
All these I'm saying it's from my own understanding but may God reveal the truth to us.
Peace.
The truth has already being revealed, there is no "my understanding" here friend, it is either you believe what is written concerning Jesus or not as this is the foundation of faith for everlasting life.
John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by dat9jaguy(m): 10:27pm On Jun 07, 2021
livingchrist:
The truth has already being revealed, there is no "my understanding" here friend, it is either you believe what is written concerning Jesus or not as this is the foundation of faith for everlasting life.
John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.




Bro, I said my understanding because I read my Bible myself and I believe God will give me understanding because I don't rely on a fellow man to interpret the Bible.
For now my opinion is my understanding of the Bible.
Making Heaven is a personal race.
Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by Janosky: 11:04pm On Jun 07, 2021
livingchrist:

Yes Jesus is the Son of God,
The son of God is God just as the son of man is man.
The son of Lion is a Lion, not Lion his Father.
Likewise, the son of man is a man.
The son of God is a god, not God his Father. John 20:17 and John 3:16 na Jesus Christ talk.
Bros, no dey DECEIVE yourself.
grin grin grin grin
Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by Janosky: 11:15pm On Jun 07, 2021
livingchrist:
It is not contradictory

Diety means essence or put it in simply the things that made God who he is.

Person means the ability to be self conscious.

Jesus is same as God but not the father meaning God is a trinity.

If your claim were true,
John 14:28, why is God greater than himself?
grin grin

Matthew 27:46, who is your triune God crying to & praying to?

Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by Janosky: 11:18pm On Jun 07, 2021
dat9jaguy:
However, It does not mean that Jesus is the same person as the father, but it does mean that he has the exact character of the father.

Does this imply that Jesus is same diety as the father?
Implied! Yes, for Jesus to be the exact representation of the father he must be same deity as the father or put it in another way, he and the father are same God but two distinct person



This is a Pictorial representation of your argument




Bros, you were correct. see the proof (screenshot).

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Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by livingchrist: 4:39am On Jun 08, 2021
Janosky:


Bros, you were correct. see the proof (screenshot).
Yahweh is a trinue God.

Genesis 1:26-27 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

It was Jehovah alone that created all things no other God was with him.


Isaiah 44:24
Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

John 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Jehovah is a trinity, Jesus as well as the holy spirit os Jehovah but they are different persons.
Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by livingchrist: 5:14pm On Jun 11, 2021
Tgb
Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by Janosky: 12:23am On Jun 12, 2021
livingchrist:

Yahweh is a trinue God.

Genesis 1:26-27 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

It was Jehovah alone that created all things no other God was with him.


Isaiah 44:24
Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

John 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Jehovah is a trinity, Jesus as well as the holy spirit os Jehovah but they are different persons.

Point 1.
Bros "Living", you said: Yahweh is a trinue God.

Point 2:
"It was Jehovah alone that created all things no other God was with him."


In your Point 1, Yahweh is triune.
In your Point 2, Yahweh alone is a "Him."

Bros, how many persons is "Him"?
grin grin.

Person wey claim say he's normal, he tells himself "Him" means 3.
Pls don't confuse your kids with that GIBBERISH.
grin grin
Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by livingchrist: 11:42am On Jun 12, 2021
Janosky:

Point 1.
Bros "Living", you said: Yahweh is a trinue God.

Point 2:
"It was Jehovah alone that created all things no other God was with him."


In your Point 1, Yahweh is triune.
In your Point 2, Yahweh alone is a "Him."

Bros, how many persons is "Him"?
grin grin.

Person wey claim say he's normal, he tells himself "Him" means 3.
Pls don't confuse your kids with that GIBBERISH.
grin grin


the father, the word and the Holy spirit are one.
One person can represent all trinity.


Genesis 1:26-27 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

God said let us create man
Is it only one person that is 'us'?
Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by lusid: 11:39pm On Jul 21, 2021
livingchrist:

Yahweh is a trinue God.

Genesis 1:26-27 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

It was Jehovah alone that created all things no other God was with him.


Isaiah 44:24
Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

John 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Jehovah is a trinity, Jesus as well as the holy spirit os Jehovah but they are different persons.

was Christ created
Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by livingchrist: 1:36am On Jul 22, 2021
lusid:
was Christ created
No He was not created
Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by Kingsnairaland(m): 5:42am On Jul 22, 2021
If you see me you have seen the father

The Father is in me and I am in the Father

One being one God manifesting in three dimensions

God is the father.. God is the son... God is the holy spirit

I and my father are one

This three are one
The Father
Son
Holy spirit

One being
One God
Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by Bishopkingsley(m): 5:44am On Jul 22, 2021
Kingsnairaland:
If you see me you have seen the father

The Father is in me and I am in the Father

One being one God manifesting in three dimensions

God is the father.. God is the son... God is the holy spirit

I and my father are one

This three are one
The Father
Son
Holy spirit

One being
One God

Exactly

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Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by lusid: 1:55pm On Jul 22, 2021
livingchrist:
No He was not created
I find it hard to believe in the doctrine of coexistence. Three persons cannot emerge at the same time unless one created the other two.
Re: Jesus The Exact Reflection Of The Father. by livingchrist: 3:16pm On Jul 22, 2021
lusid:
I find it hard to believe in the doctrine of coexistence. Three persons cannot emerge at the same time unless one created the other two.
God did not come into existence neither was he created rather he has being hence the name I AM.

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