Gbas gbos ear and dear! I believe as adults we can have disagreements without insulting one another na.

Also, Gemma11 , I know your font as one who gives good advise, please don’t spoil the good work you have been doing with your discriminatory stance. Biko It’s okay. Also, for all you know; you’ve been giving sound advise to the people you are against Lol. Let everyone agree to disagree and move on

hustla:



A couple of people have asked about BA roles from me, is it easy to get into? Suitable for women? (them no like wahala )

Honestly, according to my Supervisor who’s a Business Analyst, he says it’s easy to get into, that a few Udemy courses here and there can sharpen one up. Furthermore, certain skills are transferable. Then, YouTube is a good place to learn; the Indian guys are my favourite. I believe we have a few Business Analysts here who can also advise. Yes, it’s more than suitable for women Lol.

Lordfiido:
Okay ehn agreed. Don’t add your own Abeg Abeg.

Ok no problem, I haven’t got the strength to argue anyway.

Amarathripple0:

Honestly, according to my Supervisor who’s a Business Analyst, he says it’s easy to get into, that a few Udemy courses here and there can sharpen one up. Furthermore, certain skills are transferable. Then, YouTube is a good place to learn; the Indian guys are my favourite. I believe we have a few Business Analysts here who can also advise. Yes, it’s more than suitable for women Lol.

Thanks!

Ill be sure to pass on this info. Its not only in healthcare one can make some good money

Gemma11:

I am bitter because I am speaking out against people who have fleecing the system. You must be one of them. Please sit down.

Yeah, I am. I have 10 dependents and I am 70 years old , satisified?

Mamatukwas:

Please can someone remind me of that app or website where people post things they want to give out for free? House hold things?

Gumtree

Nextdoor

justwise:


Apart from visa fees each member of the family and the main applicant pay £624 a year for IHS and those under the age of 18 pays £470.

So for 2 and half year student visa each family members pays £1248 even before they use NHS and when they get to the UK and start working they still pay for NI and during their visa extension they will still pay £1248 each.

So tell me how many British citizen pay that much yearly for NHS even if they don't use it?

Most British tax payers pay National insurance contributions of almost 13% of their wages every month.

phyl123:


Most British tax payers pay National insurance contributions of almost 13% of their wages every month.

Are all those British white? Do you think Nigerians are among those British paying 13%? How many of those British pay £1240 upfront and still pay NI?

HondaLover:


Sometimes leaving people to their miseries will keep them quiet at some point.

The more you grant them audience, the more drama unfolds and start having scenario where insults and tantrums are been thrown around

They are creating false narratives so we cannot keep quiet, is keeping quiet that made nigerians one of the most profiled nationals on earth. Even many nigerians now believe we are the worst out there and it's never true

AirBay:

Pls what's this issue with 115k...is it a retirement benefit? Paid yearly to retired PMs? Like Cameron go still dy take this 115k every year?

I believe it's an allowance for their office. The exPM can set up an office for a valid reason, eg Cameron has an office that does research and work on Alzheimer's, and the funds go towards the office's expenses and not directly to the individual

Zahra29:


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Hi Justwise, I have indeed seen you come down hard on people who attempt to bend the rules, and you also provide a lot of support to genuine people. Kudos for the great work you do.

I don't think Gemma was criticising all immigrants -her argument was mainly that some are now shining a negative light on the psw route because they are "over doing" it and making it bait to the govt that it's being abused by economic migrants masquerading as students. She raised some points which are not popular but are valid - the influx of students and crucially their families- is adding pressure to an already heated housing market and other infrastructure like schools and the NHS. The school fees go to the universities and not to the communities, so it is the councils that have to fund school places, housing etc for new arrivals. The university collects its money and looks away lol

However, I also completely agree with your point that the UK govt should plan better to provide the necessary infrastructure for the migrants it is collecting fees from, or else limit numbers and ask the Universities to find alternative sources of funding or become leaner.

Same here that’s what I gathered from her statement but I think later she contradicted herself in other statements she made. . The whole thread came down on her like a tonne of bricks . Someone was even calling for her to be banned. Not very nice.

justwise:


Are all those British white? Do you think Nigerians are among those British paying 13%? How many of those British pay £1240 upfront and still pay NI?

Anyone working in the uk
If you earn between the Primary Threshold and the Upper Earnings Limit, then you will pay the standard rate of National Insurance (13.25% in 2022/23) on your earnings over the Primary Threshold. The Primary Threshold in 2022/23 is £190 per week to 5 July 2022 then £242 from 6 July 2022.

Nothing to do with the colour of your skin but how much you earn.

hustla:



A couple of people have asked about BA roles from me, is it easy to get into? Suitable for women? (them no like wahala )

BA roles are quite easy to get into depending on how you're able to combine transferable skills from previous roles or career like one of us mentioned. Doing a course like BCS BA foundations can help as it has so much content on business analysis. Above all, hands on experience from credible platforms will give needed boost and confidence to begin to apply for roles and face up to interviews. The BA job market in the UK is so enormous as the UK is traditionally too process driven across all sectors always leading to increase demand of BAs. Of course for women it's good but make sure you have an investigative, research focused and curious mind which is a necessity as a BA.

fatima04:
Na wa for the gbasgbos going on oo, reading and reading for days.

It is interesting how some think skilled worker applicants are somehow better than student visa applicant.

The absolute truth is the income from international students and their dependant has ripple effects on the economy.

Unis like hull, Sunderland etc could have sacked staffs due to redundancy and alll. But see how education sector is all booming and including that of UKVI.
Add IHS/NI/tax etc, its simple mathematics

If I tell you that Sunderland is withdrawing admission and no longer offers free accommodation as a bait to international students? The remarkable effects of international students in the UK is obvious to even the blind.

phyl123:


Anyone working in the uk
If you earn between the Primary Threshold and the Upper Earnings Limit, then you will pay the standard rate of National Insurance (13.25% in 2022/23) on your earnings over the Primary Threshold. The Primary Threshold in 2022/23 is £190 per week to 5 July 2022 then £242 from 6 July 2022.

Nothing to do with the colour of your skin but how much you earn.

Exactly! So Nigerians also earn and pay that 13% this include those families coming as dependant. After paying IHS as part of visa requirement they still pay 13% when they get here and start working. Then you have some people turned up to moan about Nigerians abusing the system.

Goke7:


BA roles are quite easy to get into depending on how you're able to combine transferable skills from previous roles or career like one of us mentioned. Doing a course like BCS BA foundations can help as it has so much content on business analysis. Above all, hands on experience from credible platforms will give needed boost and confidence to begin to apply for roles and face up to interviews. The BA job market in the UK is so enormous as the UK is traditionally too process driven across all sectors always leading to increase demand of BAs. Of course for women it's good but make sure you have an investigative, research focused and curious mind which is a necessity as a BA.

Thanks Boss

I appreciate!

Na wa ooh.. you can’t even leave this thread for a day… there was me thinking all the action is at 10 Downing Street. It’s a good thing I love reading. …

Goke7:


You guys are ignorant. Ihs is not cheaper for students it's prorated at 1 year and four months for students so it looks cheaper than other visa routes which are more in duration than student visas. Even if it were cheaper you expect students who can only work for 20 hrs week to pay same with those working for more hours. This beef with students is something else. And if you think it's cheaper than cost of treatment, are immigrants not better than citizens not paying at all. Let them pay something too nah.

I don't have any beef towards students. I was just correcting some inaccurate assumptions ,including the bolded -

Almost all employed citizens pay tax and NI which go towards the NHS and other public services, and many have paid these taxes for decades even if they never or rarely use the NHS.

Now let me quickly take cover before you start your usual insults

marylandcakes:
Na wa ooh.. you can’t even leave this thread for a day… there was me thinking all the action is at 10 Downing Street[b][/b]. It’s a good thing I love reading. …

If u enta their WhatsApp groups eh..... NL deh learn for matters arising

leef2022:


If u enta their WhatsApp groups eh..... NL deh learn for matters arising

All those groups where your phone will be pinging every second. I don’t do them anymore.

Nigerians love drama, it’s part of their DNA. This is enough drama for me… I love my peace too much.

hustla:



A couple of people have asked about BA roles from me, is it easy to get into? Suitable for women? (them no like wahala )

Yes and no

Yes because the certifications are easy enough to obtain either via self study or training schools , and there's usually a lot of open roles

No because employers typically look for specific domain/industry experience e.g. banking, payments, insurance,media, e-commerce etc, because you need a level of understanding of the business requirements and processes to be able to engage effectively with the stakeholders.

There are generalist BA roles , but in my experience they tend to be fewer in number.

One way in is to start with junior BA roles and then build up business experience. The senior BA or contract roles are more exacting in their job specifications and would require years of relevant industry experience.

There are also technical BA roles which is a good route for someone with (as the name suggests ) technical skills e.g. programming, sysadmin

Business Analysis is suitable for both men and women as long as you have good relationship building and stakeholder management skills.

Zahra29:


Yes and no

Yes because the certifications are easy enough to obtain either via self study or training schools , and there's usually a lot of open roles

No because employers typically look for specific domain/industry experience e.g. banking, payments, insurance,media, e-commerce etc, because you need a level of understanding of the business requirements and processes to be able to engage effectively with the stakeholders.

There are generalist BA roles , but in my experience they tend to be fewer in number.

One way in is to start with junior BA roles and then build up business experience. The senior BA or contract roles are more exacting in their job specifications and would require years of relevant industry experience.

There are also technical BA roles which is a good route for someone with (as the name suggests ) technical skills e.g. programming, sysadmin

Business Analysis is suitable for both men and women as long as you have good relationship building and stakeholder management skills.

Thank you! Sounds decent. As long as one can get into Jnr roles, it should be easy to navigate from there after 2 years

I appreciate

Are you a BA by any chance?

hustla:

For Australia however, in comparison, do you think you would have been able to easily scale up to well paying jobs like in the UK? Oh yes, especially if you head to the regions. Even non-professional jobs pay enough for people to be able live comfortably. PR is also a lot quicker at about 3 years ish. PSW visas also count towards PR in Australia. You can of course also get straight residency from offshore

Also, have you been able to save more as compared to the UK on those high salaries or it all goes back into daily living?
Husbot is on 3x his UK income. He worked for an international civil engineering consultancy (UK owned) and using cost codes plus chatting with colleagues he’s on the same salary as a technical director would be on in the UK. He’s about 2 steps below a tech director. He might earn the same if a contractor in the UK but then it means income will not be reliable whereas he’s PAYE here and will double his income as a contractor here. Interestingly, majority of his work is Australia and Middle East based.
Whichever way you cut it, we’re better off here. I am on about 2.5 x what my UK income would be. Our incomes would be similar in Australia with a slightly lower cost of living as houses are a lot cheaper to buy there so we’d have more savings.
For the first time, we do have proper savings. Savings locked away that we won’t have to dip into at all even at death or critical illness (have insurances in place) and I am totally retiring at 50.

Does Australia benefit from being close to Asia which is where a lot of countries import from? (Prices of clothes, food etc) Looked it up and found out that China is AU's biggest trade partner
Yes and no. China is their biggest market for exports. Certainly they import a lot from there too but population numbers means that the market is not big enough to translate into cheaper products for Australians. Australia is very keen on increasing their population. They have the land and space for it and are on a drive to achieve that.

I kind of want to stay near home for retirement like you have said, which is the biggest thought in my head but its nearly impossible to eat one's cake and have it.
You can do that. We didn’t move to New Zealand till we were in our late 30s with 3 young children aged under 5. That is usually the time when careers stagnate especially if family life is important. We managed to advance our careers and spend good time with the children as well. By the time we return to the UK or Europe (depends on where we land), we would both be in a position to drop to part time work till our youngest is 18 without compromising our standard of living. Plan, plan and plan.

Ticha:


For Australia however, in comparison, do you think you would have been able to easily scale up to well paying jobs like in the UK? Oh yes, especially if you head to the regions. Even non-professional jobs pay enough for people to be able live comfortably. PR is also a lot quicker at about 3 years ish. PSW visas also count towards PR in Australia. You can of course also get straight residency from offshore

Also, have you been able to save more as compared to the UK on those high salaries or it all goes back into daily living?
Husbot is on 3x his UK income. He worked for an international civil engineering consultancy (UK owned) and using cost codes plus chatting with colleagues he’s on the same salary as a technical director would be on in the UK. He’s about 2 steps below a tech director. He might earn the same if a contractor in the UK but then it means income will not be reliable whereas he’s PAYE here and will double his income as a contractor here. Interestingly, majority of his work is Australia and Middle East based.
Whichever way you cut it, we’re better off here. I am on about 2.5 x what my UK income would be. Our incomes would be similar in Australia with a slightly lower cost of living as houses are a lot cheaper to buy there so we’d have more savings.
For the first time, we do have proper savings. Savings locked away that we won’t have to dip into at all even at death or critical illness (have insurances in place) and I am totally retiring at 50.

Does Australia benefit from being close to Asia which is where a lot of countries import from? (Prices of clothes, food etc) Looked it up and found out that China is AU's biggest trade partner
Yes and no. China is their biggest market for exports. Certainly they import a lot from there too but population numbers means that the market is not big enough to translate into cheaper products for Australians. Australia is very keen on increasing their population. They have the land and space for it and are on a drive to achieve that.

I kind of want to stay near home for retirement like you have said, which is the biggest thought in my head but its nearly impossible to eat one's cake and have it.
You can do that. We didn’t move to New Zealand till we were in our late 30s with 3 young children aged under 5. That is usually the time when careers stagnate especially if family life is important. We managed to advance our careers and spend good time with the children as well. By the time we return to the UK or Europe (depends on where we land), we would both be in a position to drop to part time work till our youngest is 18 without compromising our standard of living. Plan, plan and plan.

Mehn, thanks a lot for your reply. You just gave me free game + your blueprint as I was wondering if it was possible to make the move in my mid or late thirties with my Madam who's gearing towards Mental Health Nursing. It appears NZ is a lot like AU for the most part (my housemate used to live in NZ and she said the same) and i just might look into it as a failover plan for AU in the near future.
I did check Youtube and most of the comments were about AU PR being extremely difficult to get in recent times even for students who schooled there for MSc but I understand realities may be different

I appreciate all you have said and sharing how you did it but one part thats not really clear to me if how you would make the jump to Europe or UK later. Do you have citizenship or ties to the UK which can ensure your return?

One part I will also like to key into your wealth of knowledge is real estate and investments, I think a seperate thread will seriously help with that (I know I am not the only one who would like this) and I think Oga Lexus can also chip in some investment, home buying, insurance etc advice on there