Anyahuruagu:
I took my time to read this, i must say it's commendable. I never knew all these i hope they are vaid.

Anyahuruagu:
I took my time to read this, i must say it's commendable. I never knew all these i hope they are vaid.

obehi247:


very very valid, Igbo's are the the reason of all our political misfortune in Nigeria

the day Igbo's apologize to all Nigerians for the mistake of the pass and settle down to plan with Nigerians, especially of the southern and middle belt region, Nigeria will seize to exist

Redcrafton:
" ....the same ojukwu who removed the secessional clause now declared biafra wants to secede from nigeria LMAOOO...."

Where and when did Ojukwu remove the secessional clause?...

Even if he did, Lugard joined the north and the south...Britain later gave Nigeria independence...

So whatever Zik or Ojukwu did was not carved in diamond...All human laws can be amended. No law is meant to last forever without changes and the society evolve.

Do you still kill twins in your village? LMAOOOO...

Redcrafton:
" ....the same ojukwu who removed the secessional clause now declared biafra wants to secede from nigeria LMAOOO...."

Where and when did Ojukwu remove the secessional clause?...

Even if he did, Lugard joined the north and the south...Britain later gave Nigeria independence...

So whatever Zik or Ojukwu did was not carved in diamond...All human laws can be amended. No law is meant to last forever without changes and the society evolve.

Do you still kill twins in your village? LMAOOOO...

HEAVEN4444:
well you have to have people willing to amend the laws and right now the majority who are ruling dont want to amend it. which i am sure if you are the majority ruling you will not want it amended too.you dont demand power, you take power, and if you are not strong anough to take it, the powers that be will crush you. ADAKA BORO ISSAC attempted to take some power from Aguiyi and Ojukwu and they crushed him. thats him in the pic below after ojukwus boys caught him. so as it stands right now you are going to have to crush over 100 million hausas and about 10 million fulani herdsmen if you want power in this nigeria lmaoooo. thanks to zik and aguiyi and ojukwu

TarOrfeeek:




Isaacs Adaka Boro was killed by Nigerian Forces.

Especially at the insistence of Fulani officers. He was arrested fot Treason.

This your rubbish cut and join history is stale.

EzeAro:
Another unintelligent revisionist garbage, this is what happens when you play recourse to emotions bereft of common sense and logic and historical junks concocted from a place of sheer ignorance.

So let's agree Nnamdi Azikiwe amended the clause that was against Secession in the constitution, does that mean Nnamdi Azikiwe was so powerful and feared by his colleagues from the other regions that he single-handedly changed the constitution all by himself with no single opposition from the other regional leaders? what were the likes of Awolowo, Tafawa Balewa, Ahmadu Bello etc doing when Azikiwe was drafting this clause... sleeping? or just playing lip service while one man all by himself defined the cause of history for a whole nation? What political power did Azikiwe even wield that gave him so much uninhibited authority?... even a half-wit would be smart enough to decipher the gobbledygook and conjectural garbage you posit as historical fact.


You keep blaming Ironsi for the unification decree, but how come the regional governments weren't abrogated in that same decree? cause last time I checked my history books, all the regional governments were still very much intact under Ironsi's short-lived government, so how exactly was regionalism tampered with? This is what happens when you let myopia and ignorance outlast intelligence and informed RESEARCH.

if you claim Azikiwe and Ironsi were responsible for forcing us into "One Nigeria" (even though that's not pure rubbish), how long did Irosni and Azikiwe last in power? the former lasted just 6 months before he was assassinated in the revenge coup, while the later mostly served as a ceremonial president with power of legislation incumbent upon the prime Minister who was a Northerner... so how truly influential were these men in the large scheme of things? or are we just exaggerating facts to serve our ethnic biases at the expense of historical equanimity?


Lastly the North and the South west have jointly enjoyed more power in Nigeria right from military to democratic rule since the First republic in the 60's when Igbos lost their political power due to the Nigerian civil war... how come all the successive regimes of Yoruba and Northern military/civilian governments didn't amend the same constitution they claimed was drafted by Ironsi and Azikiwe? abi was it Ironsi that created more states in 1966 (thus permanently destroying regionalism), or was it Igbos that drafted the 1996 constitution?


Nigerians will never fail to disappoint with their palpable ignorance.

HEAVEN4444:
a corrupt central government and the inability to secede out of it. All thanks to Nnamdi Azikiwe and Ojukwu and Aguiyi Ironsi. Now the reason they were doing all this is the shortsightedness of not understanding that you cant hold on to power forever. Also the shortsightedness in not seeing that the majority of the countrys population is hausa and if you create a central government they will eventually dominate the country and no other region will have any chance at power because it is ONE MAN ONE VOTE, but see the igbo elites just were not thinking ahead. they just wanted all the power at that point in time. And this modern day declaration of biafra ? it cannot happen because the igbo elites have removed the secession clause from the constitution

. ojukwu crushed him and his movement and it was BORO ADAKAS movement that made ojukwu and aguiyi to remove the secessional clause from the nigerian constitution. a few months later when the hausas took over ? the same ojukwu who removed the secessional clause now declared biafra wants to secede from nigeria LMAOOO.

DubaiLandLord:
Are you saying there was a seccesion clause in the Nigeria Constitution when Aguyi ironsi became the president of Awolowo and the Edo man wanted it to be passed as a decree by Ironsi?

HEAVEN4444:
there was a secession clause and the fight against the secession clause started from Azikiwe while he was bitterly opposed by enahoro and awolowo

Redcrafton:


So why can't Nigeria change the decree?

Are we still using DECREE 4? Or was Nigeria able to change it

Continue to confuse yourself....

Lol...

DubaiLandLord:
Wow!!

I thought there was no seccesion clause before independence.

So before Ironsi became the head of state, there is a seccesion clause in the Nigerian Constitution?

HEAVEN4444:
will you change something that favors you if you are the majority ruling ? try use common sense na. the laws the igbo elites put in place favors the hausa majority and they are happy to keep it and defend it with their life because it will favor them forever so long as theyy are the majority in the country. this is the shortsightedness of the igbo elites

Redcrafton:
" ....the same ojukwu who removed the secessional clause now declared biafra wants to secede from nigeria LMAOOO...."

Where and when did Ojukwu remove the secessional clause?...

Even if he did, Lugard joined the north and the south...Britain later gave Nigeria independence...

So whatever Zik or Ojukwu did was not carved in diamond...All human laws can be amended. No law is meant to last forever without changes and the society evolve.

Do you still kill twins in your village? LMAOOOO...

Flashback: Why I opposed Awolowo on secession - Zik

By Nnamdi Azikiwe

When the 1954 constitution conference started, my good friend, Chief Obafemi Awolowo tabled a motion to the effect that in the new constitution, provision should be made that any state which feels like seceding should do so. I was opposed to it and said ‘no’ and said that once we have a federation, we are indivisible and perpetual.

That was when we began to use that expression – ‘The Indivisibility and perpetuity of the federation’ – and that to secede would amount to treason. And so, a debate ensued.

The Secretary of State then was Oliver Littleton, later Lord Chandos and he was very much interested and that was his first time in saying that the people of African descent were people actually debating at a high level.


So a full day was given to Chief Awolowo to make his points. He spoke brilliantly as a lawyer. He made his points why secession should be incorporated in the constitution. He cited the case of the Soviet Union which is a federation, and that secession is written there so that any state in the Soviet Union can secede at will. He also cited the case of Western Australia and eventually he finished his case and was applauded.

Lord Chandos said that on the face of the arguments before him it would be suicidal to incorporate secession in our constitution and that is why we have section 86 in our constitution that if any region or state should secede, then it will be an act of treason.


We adjourned. The next day, I had to reply. I availed myself of the opportunity to, well, demolish the arguments of my friend and I cited the case of United States which based its constitution on that of the Swiss Confederation.

That is Switzerland. I pointed out a case, I think, that of Texas versus White, where Mr. Salmon Chase, the Chief Justice laid down the principle – he was really an arbiter – that the union was intended to be perpetual and indivisible and that any attempt to divide the union by secession was treasonable.

The North (NPC) supported Action Group. The question was then: Should we have secession? The Colonial Office came to our rescue. You know, the usual principle of Britain – ‘divide and rule’ (laughs) but this time, it was in our favour. So, the colonial office backed us.


Lord Chandos said that on the face of the arguments before him it would be suicidal to incorporate secession in our constitution and that is why we have section 86 in our constitution that if any region or state should secede, then it will be an act of treason and that was what led to this war, because Col. Ojukwu seceded and so violated the constitution.

Redcrafton:


So what do we do now? What did you do in the SS...after you stole Igbo properties as the outcome of the shortsightedness...

If you were the head of state and there was crisis, how would you hold the country together at that time?

This has nothing to with the Igbo elite and the military command has nothing to do with the Igbos.

Also now that the same Igbos wan to change that shortsightedness...why are you people against them?

Don't they have the right to try and undo what they have done?

Now where is that common sense of yours

HEAVEN4444:
you have to remember that sir abubakar tafawa balewa was a very learned well spoken man and was the prime minister and these men crafted a well thought out document including secession laws but Zik started fighting against it because the igbos had most of the power.

DubaiLandLord:
Nah wah o.

No wander Muritala also wanted to secced at first.

The cries for Biafra got this loud after GMB became the president.

When you check threads on Nairaland during GEJ tenure, you will hardly find an Igbo man talking about Biafra on Nairaland.

There were smiling and enjoying one Nigeria back then

GEJ even said Igbos are the pillar of his Government.

Most of them became Biafra fanatics when they lost out in ABJ.

DubaiLandLord:
Nah wah o.

No wander Muritala also wanted to secced at first.

The cries for Biafra got this loud after GMB became the president.

When you check threads on Nairaland during GEJ tenure, you will hardly find an Igbo man talking about Biafra on Nairaland.

There were smiling and enjoying one Nigeria back then

GEJ even said Igbos are the pillar of his Government.

Most of them became Biafra fanatics when they lost out in ABJ.

HEAVEN4444:
yeah well that their biafra is a pipe dream because they are the ones who removed the secession clause lol. they are stuck in nigeria. talk about shooting yourself in the foot

Grayoso:



Indeed. Historically observant Nigerians know that Igbos are a people who are disruptive and belligerent when they are not in charge, dominant over others or in control of the commonwealth and direction of Nigeria.

It is a common pattern wherever Igbos go. They begin dragging territory with indigenes and laying claim to what they will never allow others to sniff in ala Igbo juat because they feel they have a divine right to control everything and everyone.

Historical evidence show that Igbos have only ever schemed to control power for their own selfish agendas and not to deliver progress for Nigeria. That is the main reason Nigerians cannot unite to vote an Igbo President. The fear is that Igbos can never be fair to others or tolerant of them wnough to represent them fairly.

As you rightly identified, and in very recent history, their behaviour under the GEJ Presidency was a classic demonstration of what Igbos are.

They even managed to display a bigger sense of entitlement under the GEJ Presidency than the Ijaw kinsfolk of Jonathan !!!!

Rather than advocate for GEJ to use the Presidency for vital reformation that would transform Nigeria, they wete more about "na our time" chopulation and vendetta against others like the Yorubas and the Northerners.

Most offensive about Igbos is how they continue to brainwash their children that they are victims of Yoruba betrayal and backstabbing without telling them the truth which is that Igbos were the original betrayers and backstabbers of others at pivotal stages in Nigeria's history to create many of the developments that now see us where we are today.

Redcrafton:
" ....the same ojukwu who removed the secessional clause now declared biafra wants to secede from nigeria LMAOOO...."

Where and when did Ojukwu remove the secessional clause?...

Even if he did, Lugard joined the north and the south...Britain later gave Nigeria independence...

So whatever Zik or Ojukwu did was not carved in diamond...All human laws can be amended. No law is meant to last forever without changes and the society evolve.

Do you still kill twins in your village? LMAOOOO...

obehi247:


very very valid, Igbo's are the the reason of all our political misfortune in Nigeria

the day Igbo's apologize to all Nigerians for the mistake of the past and settle down to plan with Nigerians, especially of the southern and middle belt region, Nigeria will seize to exist