Bkayyy:

Mtcheww... Find something else to waste your time on.
I can remember your first hilarious post about this imaginary Aro thing, it was all about raising a stigma on Aro in the Igbo nation in a bid to dissociate Ndigbo from IPOB. This propaganda business doesn't suit you.

See how ridiculous you sound because you thought Nnamdi Kanu was Aro.

Anyways let me burst your bubble, Nnamdi Kanu is Ibeku not Aro.

No knowledge is a waste

Have you heard of OSU before?

They can be found all over Igbo land except Arochukwu, Abiriba, Edda and Ohafia.

Historically, the OSU are said to be Arochukwu property, having been cursed by the Ibini Ukpabi agent native doctors, especially during the slave trade era.
After the British stopped the slave trade, these OSU were never assimilated back into the Igbo society as they were said to be cursed and they sabotaged the Biafran war because of this rejection, according to Prof Ignatius Ebbe in his book, Broken Back Axle. He also said they became the top politicians after the war.


Orji Uzor Kalu is said to be an OSU. If that is true, then Kanu could be an OSU because Orji Uzor Kalu appointed Kanu's father as traditional ruler of Afara Ibeku in Umuahia.

But the main reason I mentioned Kanu is because he uses the Ibibio juju shrine Ibini Ukpabi and Chukwuokike abiama to initiate members into IPOB.

Now since Ibibios do not support Biafra, does it make sense to use their deity to seek for Biafra?

remember that it was this Ibini Ukpabi that was responsible for condemning Igbo freeborns as slaves and OSU

Bkayyy:

If one reads from this post to all you have posted, he will realise that you have serious mental illness.

Just read them yourself. From Akamkpa (Ejagham) to Efik and now this.

If you must lie/make things up, learn to remember your last lie

mtchew

donborg:


No knowledge is a waste

Have you heard of OSU before?

They can be found all over Igbo land except Arochukwu, Abiriba, Edda and Ohafia.

Historically, the OSU are said to be Arochukwu property, having been cursed by the Ibini Ukpabi agent native doctors, especially during the slave trade era.
After the British stopped the slave trade, these OSU were never assimilated back into the Igbo society as they were said to be cursed and they sabotaged the Biafran war because of this rejection, according to Prof Ignatius Ebbe in his book, Broken Back Axle. He also said they became the top politicians after the war.


Orji Uzor Kalu is said to be an OSU. If that is true, then Kanu could be an OSU because Orji Uzor Kalu appointed Kanu's father as traditional ruler of Afara Ibeku in Umuahia.

But the main reason I mentioned Kanu is because he uses the Ibibio juju shrine Ibini Ukpabi and Chukwuokike abiama to initiate members into IPOB.

Now since Ibibios do not support Biafra, does it make sense to use their deity to seek for Biafra?

remember that it was this Ibini Ukpabi that was responsible for condemning Igbo freeborns as slaves and OSU

Now you want me to explain Osu to you so that you can continue your fight against IPOB. Lol.

Nigerian zoo animals sef. I want you to continue like this so that any Igbo man that read it will know that you know nothing about Osu, Aro and Igbo culture

Bkayyy:

Now you want me to explain Osu to you so that you can continue your fight against IPOB. Lol.

Nigerian zoo animals sef. I want you to continue like this so that any Igbo man that read it will know that you know nothing about Osu, Aro and Igbo culture

Mehn go and sit down

You simply don't know anything hence your empty boasts!

I don't have time for your likes

donborg:


Mehn go and sit down

You simply don't know anything hence your empty boasts!

I don't have time for your likes

@ emboldened to trigger my ego to prove you wrong thereby helping you with the history and facts about Osu?

Sorry, I'll pass. Ego manipulation doesn't work on me

Mr donborg, this is the last time I will quote you. Take your Anti-IPOB online war to one of your threads.

This thread is for Bonny and Opobo.

If you believe that you can somehow turn Ndigbo against themselves and also turn Igbo, Efik and Ibibio against each other then you are welcome to try your luck.

You are not the first and won't be the last to try such. Your predecessors failed so try to surprise us this time

The slaves, always trying to rub shoulders,die it,e no go good ooo

Confusion in their midst.Only them dey argue among themselves.

Jos are now the Igbos...

Bkayyy:

LOL.
I saw all his Anti-Aro threads but ignored them until this thread. The two reasons why I engaged him is to show him how ridiculous he sounds, how his lies don't align with each other. Its like he forgets what he posted before manufacturing another lie.

The other is to enlighten him that Nnamdi Kanu who is the main person he is fighting by desecrating Aro history is not even Aro but Ibeku.

His Aro threads are just to fight IPOB even though he is Ijaw. I wonder what he wishes to gain.

They test the waters to watch reactions. They do this when their old shenanigans loses its potency and not effective again. They are always looking for new materials, insults and propaganda that will stick.
This particular one is powered by the lowest of IQs, just a little bit higher than the "Igbo Christian vs the Igbo Jews" test run. That was one of the dumbest.

JANK23H:
Confusion in their midst.Only them dey argue among themselves.

Jos are now the Igbos...

In your dreams? I think the Ogogoro you drink make you mix imaginations and reality.

donborg:


The ARO tricked all IGBOs. ALL OF US.
We never knew their tricks until the British came and exposed them as FRAUDs.

That is why during the British/Aro war, no single Igbo community supported the Arochukwu people except their brethren at Abiriba, EDDA, Ohafia and Abam , unlike during the Ekumeku war in Western Igbo, where dozens of Igbo communities united in war against the British

You're still the clown, don't you rest ...gosh!! I'm enjoying the show, bring more so we can laugh.

ThickSharon123:


You're still the clown, don't you rest ...gosh!! I'm enjoying the show, bring more so we can laugh.

You are inebriated with alcohol.

Get sober and come debate with me, dullard

Bkayyy:
Mr donborg, this is the last time I will quote you. Take your Anti-IPOB online war to one of your threads.

This thread is for Bonny and Opobo.

If you believe that you can somehow turn Ndigbo against themselves and also turn Igbo, Efik and Ibibio against each other then you are welcome to try your luck.

You are not the first and won't be the last to try such. Your predecessors failed so try to surprise us this time

WTF!!!!!!

Damn you !!!!

Bkayyy:

@ emboldened to trigger my ego to prove you wrong thereby helping you with the history and facts about Osu?

Sorry, I'll pass. Ego manipulation doesn't work on me

You are not only knowledgeable

infact you are a walking ENCYCLOPEDIA.

Megalomania!!!!!

Ignoramus extraordinaire!!!

Keep your knowledge to yourself please.

I know where to source my knowledge from

Thank you very much �����

Bkayyy:

Here we go again.

Ijaw, una no dey tire? Instead of conceding defeat in peace that you have no single relationship with Opobo, you result to gossips.

I am ashamed on you peoples behalf.

I am not Ijaw.

I think the Opobo and Bonny people were likely Igbo but they gradually adopted South South cultures. Also, migrants from other places to Bonny and Opobo helped shaped their identity today.

Do you know what the people of Barbados call a man who walks imperially? They call him a Jaja. He was exiled there.

Igboid:


Ututu is not an offshoot of Arochukwu.
They are independent group of their own, but as expected, they are related to Arochukwu.

I have a hypothesis that the Igbo came to our current location through a Northern direction.
But at Kogi, there was a split. One group took the direction of Edo and the other took the direction of Benue and then Cross River.
The groups that took Edo direction gave rise to the Indigenous Igbo tribes in Anioma, those who took Benue direction ended up in Ikwo, Ezza,Izzi. Those who took Cross River direction ended up forming Bende, Arochukwu, Ututu,Ohafia, Abiriba.
Others moved straight from Kogi to Anambra River area and formed the Nri and Nsukka groups.
All these groups now kept pushing down until they all met each other again within Abia and Imo state.
Kept pushing until they reached the coasts (Bonny).
I believe during these journey, many Igbos were left along the way, and they settled with their non Igbo neighbors and lost their Igbo language.

When you listen to Abiriba, Bende history, you hear of origin from Cross River direction, yet the name of their ancestors were all Igbos.
For example the ancestor of Abiriba was called "Nnachioke"
So I came to the conclusion that these ancestors were Igbos on the move who had to pass through non Igbo territories, settled amongst them, acquired wives and friends from there who joined in their journey, until they settled to where they are currently stationed. They also in typical Igbo manner acquired cultural practices of these people.


That's my rational explanation of the Igbo migration and the irreconcilable stories of ancestors who were said to be Edo, Cross River, Igala , etc, yet all bore Igbo names and have their descendants speaking Igbo.

Yes that is it.
Just the the biblical Moses story and they also intermarried with the old aboriginal Igbos, like Awka and AmaIgbo

Igboid:


True.
I have mentioned about the lack of strong and informed Political leadership that reasons beyond eating, drinking, sleeping with akwuna, and stockpiling funds in tax havens and buying properties in Europe and North America with public funds, in Igboland.

We need a strong Political leadership fully invested in strategic issues affecting Ndiigbo as a people in all five SE states and beyond as governors of five SE states!

Any push for Igbo independence that doesn't start with first and foremost hijacking through the ballots the Political leadership of Igboland from councillors to Senate and Governors, is a waste of time and scam.

I have told IPOB people this severally.

I had once had the privilege of being with a state house of assembly member in one of Igbo states, and I raised some of these issues.
To my surprise, not only was these man totally unaware of these issues, he had zero interest in them.
All he wants is money, women, drink! That's all that tickles his fantasy.
You can't have such people representing your Political interests, and you are talking about Buhari and NIGERIA, when you haven't done your home work and cleanup your home mess.

IPOB members and ALL Igbo politicians are all members of a cult.

Bonny and Opobo as well as other Ibani land, belong to only the Ibanis.

Person from Aba no fit lay claim to Ibani land lai lai.

DubaiLandLord:
Bonny and Opobo as well as other Ibani land, belong to only the Ibanis.

Person from Aba no fit lay claim to Ibani land lai lai.

Aba is a piggery environment.

Osagyefo98:


Aba is a piggery environment.

sinteiking:


Since His Majesty king (Dr.) Dandeson Douglas Jaja JP, Jeki V, Treaty king, Amayanabo of Opobo has affirmed his Ijawness, the debate is over.

"Opobian is Ijoid" so says the His Majesty king (Dr.) Dandeson Douglas Jaja JP, Jeki V, Treaty king, Amayanabo of Opobo

Shut up there !!!

Is he the only citizen of Opobo?

That he is King does not matter because any body can be King in Nigeria provided you have the right connections with government. eg Government connection made Nnamdi Kanu a prince.

And since the Ijaws allied with Fulanis control government in Nigeria, what do you expect the poor man to do?

The legendary King Jaja of Opobo was an Igbo man. His Kingdom is an Igbo kingdom. The citizens of Opobo speaks Igbo so bleep off to Sierra Leone and go meet your brethren you M16agents of the British.

JANK23H:


Funny people

Finally, you have shown us proof of Kay Williamson's work. At least it is no longer fiction or hearsay.

GreatBoss:


Ijaws are larger than Igbo in population.

What kind of weed caused this confusion?

Alabo7978:

Well I didn't expect much from you because you're the most daftest among your grabbing lieng peers because you don't know there are Language grouping and you failed to see from crowther's and pepple report that kalabari, Bonny,brass Okordia and almost the entire delta speak closely or related ijoid Language; even balkie noted it as "Oru" dialect but heck you don't even know Oru was the common name during those days.
*Gerrit Dimmendaal a dutch linguist already grouped the ijoid Languages
* Williamson and blench both British linguists grouped the Oru(ijoid) Languages like baikie did(you probably didn't understand because you didn't know the Europeans also addressed ijo people as Oru)

Like I said, you're the daftest, I expected nothing much from you.
Go and look up academic works of linguist. Those are the people their works appear in reputable information sites but you know nothing.
I'm unfollowing this stupid thread but look at the highlighted blue ticks about the ijo Languages recorded for the first time
By John clarck in 1848
Did you see Nembe, okrika, kalabari, Bonny??
Then did you see baikie saying the same thing in the second blue circle??
I know YOU'RE crying right now.
Ekealterego bkayy Igboid etc
All of you are dullards.

How come ijo language accidentally gets 'discovered' all of a sudden by the German doctor? Isn't that suspicious?
Moreover, how come W B Biakie never corroborated the German doctors magical discovery?

Igboid:


And worst still,the Fulani and Yorubas we are fixated on can't do anything to us without the help of the active threat already on our door steps.
We take care of that threat, then we wouldn't even have to worry about Yorubas and Fulanis.

We have simply put, been shortsighted and chased rats while we had arsenist in our backyard setting our house on fire at the command of our enemies located miles away!
This is a call for awakening for all sleeping Igbo daughter and son!

The code is Red!

You are right.
It is the rat inside the house that tells the rats outside that there is fish in the house.
I now fear Ijaw more that I fear Fulanis
The sign was right there in front of us,but we were blind. Just look at how GEJ dashed Buhari power while shrieking 'i don't want war' like a baby.
Asari Dokubo angry with Kanu for failing to lead Igbos to war, so they can kill more Igbos and take over our lands.
To end this, Igbos need to buckle up and take the Presidency, so we can know what the hell is happening in this country.

SirBlack999:

For real. I actually thought I was the only one that noticed the change in mood. Probably thought they would shout NdịIgbo down, but their madness was met with madness and evidence. They're now seeking a calmer conversation. People that betrayed the old Eastern region where they were getting half of the revenue from sales of natural resources to Nigeria because they made a deal with the devil. Today, they're managing a meagre 13%, which was actually pulled off with the help of Igbos; The can't fish nor farm because of degradation, no control of their oil Wells (good Job Fulanis!!); and Northern Politicians are thinking of even removing the 13% derivatives, because, to them, we're one people, one nation. Ife mgbu fa kana ebido. Otito dịrị Chineke maka Social media na internet. If not, ndị a kaari continue with their propaganda.

The fact that the Ijaw were given just 13 per cent shows that the Northerners knew all along, with evidence we just discovered, that the Ijaw do not really own the land they live in today. This is why whenever a Northerner is in power, they do not destroy pipelines and demand for resource control and Niger delta republic.
They only do that whenever a Southerner is PRESIDENT- Adaka Boro against Ironsi in 1966 and Asari Dokubo against OBJ in 2000s.
Note that Yaradua, who stopped the militancy, gave them pittance instead of resource control

SlayerForever:
All accounts from 1900s and earlier state Ijaws as boat living cannibals. Every single account. How could the Ubani people have allowed this people to enter into their society and take over.

BIAFRAN WAR

Bkayyy:

I know him. He is just fighting IPOB with half baked but hilarious knowledge.

He, his crew and employers thinks Nnamdi Kanu is Aro

Here is the description of Arochukwu by W.B Biakie.
Note the similarities between IPOB of today and Aro.

A Pilgrimage to Arochukwu
By Dr WB Baikie ( European explorer sent to discover the lost tribe of Jews living in the Lower Niger.)
" To the North of Ndoki is a large district named Abanyim, where the Igbos and people of Old Kalabar meet for trade. Not far from this stands the noted city of Aro or Ano, where is the celebrated shrine of Tshuku, or the deity to which pilgrimages are made, not only from all parts of Igbo proper, but from Old Kalabar, from the tribes along the coast, and from Oru, and Nimbe of Brass. The city is described as being nearly three times the size of Abo, and as extremely populous. The inhabitants are skillful artisans, and manufacture swords, spears and metallic ornaments, specimens of all which I have seen, and can therefore testify to their being nearly finished. The town is always with great respect, almost at times with a degree of veneration, and the people say 'Tshuku ab yama' , or 'God lives there's. The dialect of Aro is peculiar, but Isuama and Enugu are also much spoken, as well as Efik or Old Kalabar, and numerous other languages are to be heard among the crowd of pilgrim - votaries who throng the shrine. The mark used in Aro consist of a series of ( from ten to twelve) short horizontal lines just before the ear ....
The religion of Igbo is entirely pagan, mixed up with numerous rites and ceremonies, neither in general so frightful nor so bloody as those practiced in Bini, in Dahomi, and other more western countries, but still all of a pre - eminently superstitious character. The Igbos all believe in an Almighty being, omnipresent and omnipotent whom they call Tshuku, whom they constantly worship, and whom they believe to constantly communicate directly with them through his sacred shrine at Aro. But they speak also of another and a distinct Deity, who at Abo is known as Orissa but throughout other parts of Igbo is known as 'Tshuku - Okeke' , God the creator or the supreme God.
Abo people believe that after death, that those who have been good on earth, may either go to Orissa and abide with him, or they may, if they like visit any country n earth, and so slaves often when dying, say that will go and revisit their native land; if on the other hand, a wicked man dies , it is understood that he is driven to Okomo or hell; derived from Oko, ,fire, and mo, spirit. In Abo, every man and every woman of any consequence keeps as dju - dju , or sacred , the lower jaw of a pig, or until they can procure this a piece of wood fashioned like one. This is preserved in their huts and produced only when worshipped, or when sacrifices are made to it, which are at certain times at intervals of from ten days to three weeks. The particular days are determined by the dju - dju men or priests, and by them intimated to the people. They sprinkle this dju - djunwith palm -wine, and touching it with kola- nut , speak to it to be good and propitious towards them.........
At Abo one large tree is held as dju- dju, for the whole district, it is covered with offerings, and there is an annual festival in honour of it, when sacrifices of owls, sheep, goats and bullocks are made.
When a man goes to Aro to consult Tshuku, he is received by some of the priests outside of the town, near a small stream.Here he makes an offering, after which a fowl is killed and if it appears unpropitious, a quantity of red dye, probably camwood, is split into the water which the priests tell the people is blood, and on this the votary is hurried off by the priests and is seen no more, it being given out that Tshuku has been displeased and has taken him. ' The result of the preliminary ceremony is determined in general by the amount of present given to the priests, and those who are reported vto have been carried off by Tshuku are usually sold as slaves. Formerly they were commonly sent by canoe,by a little Creek, in Old Kalabar, and disposed of there. One of my informants had met upwards of twenty such unfortunates in Cuba, and another has also fallen in with several at Sierra Leone. If, however, the omen be pronounced to be favourable, the pilgrim is permitted to draw near to the shrine, and after various rites have been gone through the question, whatever it may be, is propounded, of course through the priests and by them also a reply is given . A yellow powder is given to the devotee, who runs it round his eyes, which powder is called in Igbo Edo. Little wooden images are also issued, as tokens of persons having actually ,consulted the sacred oracle and these are known as ' Ofo -Tshuku' , and are afterwards kept as dju- - dju. A person who has been at Aro, after returning to his home, is reckoned dju - dju or sacred for seven days, after which, during which period he must stay in his house, and people dread to approach him.
The shrine of Tshuku is said to be situated nearly in the center of the town, and the inhabitants of Aro are often styled Omo - Tshuku or God's children.
Reference
WB Bailie(1856), pp310-14, William Balfour Bailie ( 1825 - 1864) Narrative of an Exploring Voyage up the River Kwora and Benue . London

donborg:


The fact that the Ijaw were given just 13 per cent shows that the Northerners knew all along, with evidence we just discovered, that the Ijaw do not really own the land they live in today. This is why whenever a Northerner is in power, they do not destroy pipelines and demand for resource control and Niger delta republic.
They only do that whenever a Southerner is PRESIDENT- Adaka Boro against Ironsi in 1966 and Asari Dokubo against OBJ in 2000s.
Note that Yaradua, who stopped the militancy, gave them pittance instead of resource control

No president can give the Niger Delta resource control.

walemoney007:
No president can give the Niger Delta resource control.

You are right

This is because the Ijaw have no ancestral links to the claims to the land they inhabit today.
There is no single European explorer who met them on land or had treaties with them nor their kings that can vouch for them.
The Ijaw are simply USURPERS

donborg:


You are right

This is because the Ijaw have no ancestral links to the claims to the land they inhabit today.
There is no single European explorer who met them on land or had treaties with them nor their kings that can vouch for them.
The Ijaw are simply USURPERS

How old are you? You speak like a kid.

There is oil in ilaje areas of Ondo state and Lagos, Ibo areas in Rivers state, Urobo and Itsekiris areas in Delta state etc The oil sector in all this area is been control by the FG.

If there is a room for resource control in our constitution, your chidish argument won't even hold a single drop of water.

walemoney007:
How old are you? You speak like a kid.

There is oil in ilaje areas of Ondo state and Lagos, Ibo areas in Rivers state, Urobo and Itsekiris areas in Delta state etc The oil sector in all this area is been control by the FG.

If there is a room for resource control in our constitution, your chidish argument won't even hold a single drop of water.

Warped logic for the agitators of Niger delta republic.
Have an Igbo man or Itsekiri man or Urhobo man become President before? No
If the oil belongs to the Ijaw, GEJ would have taken all the oil Wells and given it to the Ijaws instead of the meagre N40,000 payments to you sea militants in Nigeria, Cameroon, Equitorial guinea, Sierra Leone, Ghana and Togo.