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Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by Ojuntana: 6:58pm On Jul 02, 2022
garfield1:



Obj never defeated buhsri in the north.obj got 8 million votes against 11.5 million by Buhari although obj won the nc.only yaradua was alleged to have won him up north though inec never released full state by statw results...
If gej had got the 7.5 million he got in 2011 and Buhari still maintained his 10.5 million,he would have won.dont forget that they were calls for gej to step down in 2011 for the north to complete yaradua.some elders led by ango abdullahi even did a mock primary which produced atiku. At the last minute,gov muazu allegedly struck a deal with gej to handover to north in 2015.
Boko escalated in 2006/2007 under obj when its founder uztaz Yusuf was killed...the govs always want to produce vp right from 1999 so northern govs scheming for vp is not a new thing.Buhari only told them that he wants to anoint his successor,they never gave him an answer so you saying they turned around is mischievous and in bad fate.dont forget that in that meeting,Buhari backed power shift to the south.I never said power shift to the south is a popular opinion among all northerners.I said a greater number of northern leaders supported it just like they demanded for it in 2015...even though a good number will back power shift,that doesnt mean that they won't accept it if it comes to them afterall many in the south supported gej in 2015.even in 2007,the southern govs in PDP canvassed for power.
The northerners hardly condemn each other in the media unlike we southerners so dont expect them to condemn atiku and co.by 2023 polls,you will know where the north stands.

Saying PDP is getting stronger up north is flawed,I dont know where you conjured up such stats from but nnpp is getting stronger..
OBJ won more states in the north than Buhari anyway.
Same northern elites you said wanted the south to rule in 2011 are now doing a mock primary. The north never supported GEJ in 2011. That's the fact. All this talk of Muazu cutting a deal with GEJ. Muazu is only one man. His so-called deal even if it exists which is doubtful exists only between himself and GEJ.
BH leader was killed in 2009 not 2006. Boko escalated in 2010. Go and get your facts right. They became a full force in 2011.
Mention the govs that wanted to produce VP in 1999. It is common knowledge there were no governors in the build up to 1999. Mention the govs that produced atiku again in 2003. Mention the govs that endorsed GEJ in 2007. Also mention the govs that produced Sambo in 2010. Mention the govs that produced Osinbajo in 2015. You imagine too much.

Buhari has never said anything about power shift. Those are media lies. Even in the last minute, Yahaya Bello went to meet with him and he gave Yahaya Bello go ahead to contest so where is the story that he supported power shift coming from.
Most northern groups be it NEF, CNG, NYFN etc were against power shift to the south. Go and check their press releases again. Kwankwaso is from the North. He is on the ballot. There were almost equal number of southern and northern aspirants in APC and PDP. Only Badaru from the North stepped down for Tinubu. The rest ran till the end. So I ask again. Where are you getting the idea that most northerners support power shift to the south. Most northerners that I've interacted with who support Tinubu support him because of his personality not because of any power shift theory, I can almost bet that if power shift is their main focus, they will prefer a Christian from the south. That's because most northerners believe the south is for Christians while the north is for Muslims.
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by fof1: 7:02pm On Jul 02, 2022
Move2:

https://www.sunnewsonline.com/2023-six-govs-move-against-atiku-2/

Lies upon Lies and Confusion upon Confusion...Propaganda upon Propagan...
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by haffaze777(m): 7:25pm On Jul 02, 2022
Gandollaar:
You are high on stale ewedu soup Afeesi.
mkpurumiri people againgrin
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by Gandollaar(f): 7:26pm On Jul 02, 2022
haffaze777:
mkpurumiri people againgrin
I can't take mkpurumiri after seeing what it has done to Tinubu in old age.
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by haffaze777(m): 7:27pm On Jul 02, 2022
Gandollaar:
I can't take mkpurumiri after seeing what it has done to Tinubu in old age.

Why are you still taking it den?you need to say the truth so we can help you out.

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Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by Gandollaar(f): 7:41pm On Jul 02, 2022
haffaze777:


Why are you still taking it den?you need to say the truth so we can help you out.
I said I can't take it.

Read slowly this time.
.See as tinubu be like vegetable because of a rough past.
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by bobgentle: 7:41pm On Jul 02, 2022
How is it Signed and Sealed when a Northener has ruled us WOEFULLY in 8yrs and still wants to continue for 16yrs is that not COMPLETE ISLAMISATION we are heading for .
SAY NO TO NORTHER RULE COME 2023
SAY NO TO ISLAMISATION AGENDA
GO FOR A COMPITENTENT PERSONALITY WHO HAS THE CAPACITY AND TRUST TO DEFEND THE HOPES AND ASPIRATIONS OF AVERAGE NIGERIANS.
SAY NO TO GRAND FATHERS &GREAT GRAND FATHERS WHO WILL BE SPENDING YEARS OF GOVERNANCE IN TRAVELLING FOR MEDICALS OR MAKING DUBAI TOURIST HQRTS OF NIGERIA.
POWER MUST SHIFT BACK TO THE SOUTH.
FOR WE ARE NEVER SECOND CLASS CITIZENS OF NIGERIA WHICH IS OUR FATHERLAND .
Frigga13:
And the source that followed all this drama in and out no get Name

Funny


Power to the people
North 2023

Yoruba sustained propaganda to cause crises in Pdp so as to give their god power is laughable

Very stupid propaganda

Think they should focus more on how to make obi come last and not targeting something even if oduduwA appear in person can’t get

Fromwike to Obi to Kwankwanso back to Wike .. and they think all human are daft..

Pdp is United ... sign sealed and delivered

After 2023 .. we will remind Una

For now

North 2023

Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by haffaze777(m): 7:46pm On Jul 02, 2022
Gandollaar:
I said I can't take it.

Read slowly this time.
.See as tinubu be like vegetable because of a rough past.

We both know you're lying about not taking it, it's food for your side grin
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by Gandollaar(f): 7:48pm On Jul 02, 2022
haffaze777:


We both know you're lying about not taking it, it's food for your side grin
Hiss.
Abeg res
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by haffaze777(m): 8:43pm On Jul 02, 2022
Gandollaar:
Hiss.
Abeg res

Are you pained?
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by garfield1: 9:04pm On Jul 02, 2022
Ojuntana:

OBJ won more states in the north than Buhari anyway.
Same northern elites you said wanted the south to rule in 2011 are now doing a mock primary. The north never supported GEJ in 2011. That's the fact. All this talk of Muazu cutting a deal with GEJ. Muazu is only one man. His so-called deal even if it exists which is doubtful exists only between himself and GEJ.
BH leader was killed in 2009 not 2006. Boko escalated in 2010. Go and get your facts right. They became a full force in 2011.
Mention the govs that wanted to produce VP in 1999. It is common knowledge there were no governors in the build up to 1999. Mention the govs that produced atiku again in 2003. Mention the govs that endorsed GEJ in 2007. Also mention the govs that produced Sambo in 2010. Mention the govs that produced Osinbajo in 2015. You imagine too much.

Buhari has never said anything about power shift. Those are media lies. Even in the last minute, Yahaya Bello went to meet with him and he gave Yahaya Bello go ahead to contest so where is the story that he supported power shift coming from.
Most northern groups be it NEF, CNG, NYFN etc were against power shift to the south. Go and check their press releases again. Kwankwaso is from the North. He is on the ballot. There were almost equal number of southern and northern aspirants in APC and PDP. Only Badaru from the North stepped down for Tinubu. The rest ran till the end. So I ask again. Where are you getting the idea that most northerners support power shift to the south. Most northerners that I've interacted with who support Tinubu support him because of his personality not because of any power shift theory, I can almost bet that if power shift is their main focus, they will prefer a Christian from the south. That's because most northerners believe the south is for Christians while the north is for Muslims.

Can't wait to see sen oluremi act as first lady
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by Ojuntana: 9:05pm On Jul 02, 2022
garfield1:


Can't wait to see sen oluremi act as first lady
Happy waiting
But it's not given
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by garfield1: 9:12pm On Jul 02, 2022
Ojuntana:

Happy waiting
But it's not given

Its not though he has the best odds
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by Peacecore: 9:13pm On Jul 02, 2022
garfield1:



Obj never defeated buhsri in the north.obj got 8 million votes against 11.5 million by Buhari although obj won the nc.only yaradua was alleged to have won him up north though inec never released full state by statw results...
If gej had got the 7.5 million he got in 2011 and Buhari still maintained his 10.5 million,he would have won.dont forget that they were calls for gej to step down in 2011 for the north to complete yaradua.some elders led by ango abdullahi even did a mock primary which produced atiku. At the last minute,gov muazu allegedly struck a deal with gej to handover to north in 2015.
Boko escalated in 2006/2007 under obj when its founder uztaz Yusuf was killed...the govs always want to produce vp right from 1999 so northern govs scheming for vp is not a new thing.Buhari only told them that he wants to anoint his successor,they never gave him an answer so you saying they turned around is mischievous and in bad fate.dont forget that in that meeting,Buhari backed power shift to the south.I never said power shift to the south is a popular opinion among all northerners.I said a greater number of northern leaders supported it just like they demanded for it in 2015...even though a good number will back power shift,that doesnt mean that they won't accept it if it comes to them afterall many in the south supported gej in 2015.even in 2007,the southern govs in PDP canvassed for power.
The northerners hardly condemn each other in the media unlike we southerners so dont expect them to condemn atiku and co.by 2023 polls,you will know where the north stands.

Saying PDP is getting stronger up north is flawed,I dont know where you conjured up such stats from but nnpp is getting stronger..
My dear u can't kill yasef explaining these things. The next thing u will hear is that Atiku is the only topic being preached in the North right now.
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by garfield1: 9:15pm On Jul 02, 2022
Peacecore:
My dear u can't kill yasef explaining these things. The next thing u will hear is that Atiku is the only topic being preached in the North right now.

It is so exhausting
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by Peacecore: 9:18pm On Jul 02, 2022
Ojuntana:

OBJ won more states in the north than Buhari anyway.
Same northern elites you said wanted the south to rule in 2011 are now doing a mock primary. The north never supported GEJ in 2011. That's the fact. All this talk of Muazu cutting a deal with GEJ. Muazu is only one man. His so-called deal even if it exists which is doubtful exists only between himself and GEJ.
BH leader was killed in 2009 not 2006. Boko escalated in 2010. Go and get your facts right. They became a full force in 2011.
Mention the govs that wanted to produce VP in 1999. It is common knowledge there were no governors in the build up to 1999. Mention the govs that produced atiku again in 2003. Mention the govs that endorsed GEJ in 2007. Also mention the govs that produced Sambo in 2010. Mention the govs that produced Osinbajo in 2015. You imagine too much.

Buhari has never said anything about power shift. Those are media lies. Even in the last minute, Yahaya Bello went to meet with him and he gave Yahaya Bello go ahead to contest so where is the story that he supported power shift coming from.
Most northern groups be it NEF, CNG, NYFN etc were against power shift to the south. Go and check their press releases again. Kwankwaso is from the North. He is on the ballot. There were almost equal number of southern and northern aspirants in APC and PDP. Only Badaru from the North stepped down for Tinubu. The rest ran till the end. So I ask again. Where are you getting the idea that most northerners support power shift to the south. Most northerners that I've interacted with who support Tinubu support him because of his personality not because of any power shift theory, I can almost bet that if power shift is their main focus, they will prefer a Christian from the south. That's because most northerners believe the south is for Christians while the north is for Muslims.
Hmm
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by Ojuntana: 9:18pm On Jul 02, 2022
garfield1:


Its not though he has the best odds
Best odds?
With his present arrangement, I don't see him getting 25% in 24 states
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by Peacecore: 9:23pm On Jul 02, 2022
garfield1:


It is so exhausting
Atiku is exhausted politically. If anyone want to agree let him do, if they don't want to uhhu! That's their headache. I like Obi but Odds best favour Tinubu as far as 2023 is concern.
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by garfield1: 9:32pm On Jul 02, 2022
Ojuntana:

Best odds?
With his present arrangement, I don't see him getting 25% in 24 states

Which arrangement? 19 northern states plus 6 sw plus fct is 26.even atiku would get this
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by Lanre1st(m): 10:29pm On Jul 02, 2022
Angelfrost:
APC and PDP can burn in Hell!...

Whoever votes for either party doesn't want the progress of this nation. Simple!

You progress of the zoo or biafra
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by Ojuntana: 10:32pm On Jul 02, 2022
garfield1:


Which arrangement? 19 northern states plus 6 sw plus fct is 26.even atiku would get this
APC has not won fct since 2015
With the present arrangement, only nw and SW are sure for APC. The rest are up for grabs
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by Angelfrost(m): 10:35pm On Jul 02, 2022
Lanre1st:


You progress of the zoo or biafra

In case you are confused sir, I'm not from the SouthEast.

Maybe you should go through my profile and past posts in Politics thread. Thank you.
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by garfield1: 10:47pm On Jul 02, 2022
Ojuntana:

APC has not won fct since 2015
With the present arrangement, only nw and SW are sure for APC. The rest are up for grabs

Apc has never won fct but get at least 35%.you said tinubu won't get 25% in 24 states and I m talking you that he will get 25% in 19 northern and 6 sw states.he will also get in 2 se and 4 ss states
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by Ojuntana: 1:33pm On Jul 03, 2022
garfield1:


Apc has never won fct but get at least 35%.you said tinubu won't get 25% in 24 states and I m talking you that he will get 25% in 19 northern and 6 sw states.he will also get in 2 se and 4 ss states
Really?
You think APC will get 25% an with a Muslim NW VP candidate in Adamawa, Benue, Taraba, Plateau states?
Seems you don't recognize that it will be easy to accuse APC of marginalizing not only Christians, but NE and NC with such arrangement.
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by garfield1: 1:52pm On Jul 03, 2022
Ojuntana:

Really?
You think APC will get 25% an with a Muslim NW VP candidate in Adamawa, Benue, Taraba, Plateau states?
Seems you don't recognize that it will be easy to accuse APC of marginalizing not only Christians, but NE and NC with such arrangement.

Those states always share their votes,they do not give bloc votes.apc and pdp are well entrenched there so they will always get the needed percentage.moreover,the middle belt is tilting towards the south than the corr north.their problem has always been the fulanis not Muslims.
Tinubu will most likely choose a ne Muslim.I dont know where you are getting your own imaginations from
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by Ojuntana: 3:52pm On Jul 03, 2022
garfield1:


Those states always share their votes,they do not give bloc votes.apc and pdp are well entrenched there so they will always get the needed percentage.moreover,the middle belt is tilting towards the south than the corr north.their problem has always been the fulanis not Muslims.
Tinubu will most likely choose a ne Muslim.I dont know where you are getting your own imaginations from

I said PRESENT ARRANGEMENT. Likely is not a term that describes present arrangement. If it was so sure and smooth that a NE muslim will emerge, why did "placeholder" pop up from. The majority of govs that want the VP slot are in NW not NE. Even the "placeholder" is NW. The present arrangement of APC presidential ticket is SW/NW.

They gave bloc votes to OBJ. The middle belt is evenly divided between Muslims and Christians and it usually shows in how they vote. But much worse is the fact that the Muslim-Muslim ticket will alienate a good number of states in NC and NE. That's what i'm saying
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by garfield1: 6:51pm On Jul 03, 2022
Ojuntana:


I said PRESENT ARRANGEMENT. Likely is not a term that describes present arrangement. If it was so sure and smooth that a NE muslim will emerge, why did "placeholder" pop up from. The majority of govs that want the VP slot are in NW not NE. Even the "placeholder" is NW. The present arrangement of APC presidential ticket is SW/NW.

They gave bloc votes to OBJ. The middle belt is evenly divided between Muslims and Christians and it usually shows in how they vote. But much worse is the fact that the Muslim-Muslim ticket will alienate a good number of states in NC and NE. That's what i'm saying

If you go by tinubu choosing masari as a place holder,you will also infer that obi will finally pick a Yoruba man.we can't conclude now,tinubu body language shows ne.the agitation from the nw and the Christian resistance is what is stopping him.unlike atiku,he wants majority of apc stakeholders to accept his eventual pick before taking the plunge....

The Muslim Muslim ticket won't have much effect in the ne except in taraba and Adamawa.the Christians in taraba and Adamawa will look favourably at obi.some might even throw votes for tinubu after all he is a southerner and a lesser evil to xtian than atiku.the middle belt look favourably towards southerners.same thing in plateau,benue,nasarawa.bello should deliver kogi.Niger and kwara are formalities.tinubu will have no problem getting 25% in the aforementioned states.
Re: 6 PDP Governors Move Against Atiku, Tinubu's Men Reachout To PDP Members by OfficialP: 8:49pm On Jul 04, 2022
OfficialP:
First, they said Northern governors in apc will work for atiku, now pdp governors will work for tinubu.

Confused source

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