Maynman:


Are you ready to free yourself from watchtower bondage, or you are still worshipping theos, huh theist?
Because I’m not interested in mad people that their salvation depends on baldheads in watchtower!

There are various verses in your bible that says your deity knows your thoughts before you even think of it, you are confused!
And since your deity doesn’t know everything that means the mapped out plan is an assumption and can still later regret
He doesn’t know the end, he’s hoping his plans will work. The revelation book is simply as ASSUMPTION

oteneaaron:


Very apt.

A little study of ancient history is all people really need.

We need to learn from the past.

History has shown that Jehovah = Yahweh
= Yaldaboth = Zeus = the DEMIURGE.

He is NOT the universal mind behind the cosmos. If not, he would be omnipotent, omnipotent and omniscient

According to the dictionary -

1. Omnipotent - Having unlimited power, force or authority.

2. Omnipresent - Being everywhere simultaneously

3. Omniscient - Having total knowledge or all knowledge.

The God that MaxInDHouse worships doesn't meet any of the above criteria, therefore he cannot be the infinite mind behind the whole cosmos.

Why, because the universal mind is UNIVERSAL it is everywhere at once - it almost like air we breathe.

Everybody and everything in the entire universe is only a part of the universal mind.

MaxInDHouse:
There's no need for name calling just treat each title one after the other so let's go:
Omniscient:
Quote Bible verses and explain how your God is Omniscient.

MaxInDHouse:

the true God only knows about events reported to Him

MaxInDHouse:

the true God only knows about events reported to Him and that He is not present everywhere.

Maynman:

Are you ready to free yourself from watchtower bondage, or you are still worshipping theos, huh theist?
Because I’m not interested in mad people that their salvation depends on baldheads in watchtower!
There are various verses in your bible that says your deity knows your thoughts before you even think of it, you are confused!
And since your deity doesn’t know everything that means the mapped out plan is an assumption and can still later regret
He doesn’t know the end, he’s hoping his plans will work. The revelation book is simply as ASSUMPTION

MaxInDHouse:


Well none of your òrìsàs can predict what will happen to the entire inherited earth in the future just as JEHOVAH revealed to Jesus sent through an angel to deliver it to Apostle John! Revelations 1:1

I'll give you just one instance!

Jesus foretold that by the time he return to the earth as a mighty spirit King these are the events that we his true disciples living then will see:
©Jesus will restructure his group so the preaching and teaching campaign will kick off again but this time nothing can stop it so it will be throughout the earth! Revelations 6:1-2
That's why Jehovah's Witnesses have started preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all our neighbourhood throughout the earth!


©Countries will start to fight against countries and politicians against politicians so people will die in their millions. That's why the world war struck that year (1914) and ever since then wars has not cease throughout the earth despite all human organizations established to ensure peace! Revelations 6:3-4 compare to Matthew 24:7

©Artificial famine will follow leading to food shortages as the countries involving in wars are the largest producers of most raw materials used in production of food since they've diverted all their resources into weapons of war! Revelations 6:5-6 compare to Matthew 24:7

©Then due to loss of lives and lack of focus on people's welfare different diseases will emerge including pandemics leading many to their early grave! Revelations 6:7-8 compare to Luke 21:11

So we have much more than enough reasons to put faith in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who is the Author of the Bible.

But you too can present your òrìsàs perhaps any of them has something worthwhile to say.
Please don't allow the words of the God of the Bible to prove true regarding you and your gods! Psalms 115:4-8

Maynman:

Your deity is only predicting, good!
And besides he is not almighty too.

MaxInDHouse:


Well none of your òrìsàs can predict what will happen to the entire inherited earth in the future just as JEHOVAH revealed to Jesus sent through an angel to deliver it to Apostle John! Revelations 1:1

I'll give you just one instance!

Jesus foretold that by the time he return to the earth as a mighty spirit King these are the events that we his true disciples living then will see:
©Jesus will restructure his group so the preaching and teaching campaign will kick off again but this time nothing can stop it so it will be throughout the earth! Revelations 6:1-2
That's why Jehovah's Witnesses have started preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all our neighbourhood throughout the earth!


©Countries will start to fight against countries and politicians against politicians so people will die in their millions. That's why the world war struck that year (1914) and ever since then wars has not cease throughout the earth despite all human organizations established to ensure peace! Revelations 6:3-4 compare to Matthew 24:7

©Artificial famine will follow leading to food shortages as the countries involving in wars are the largest producers of most raw materials used in production of food since they've diverted all their resources into weapons of war! Revelations 6:5-6 compare to Matthew 24:7

©Then due to loss of lives and lack of focus on people's welfare different diseases will emerge including pandemics leading many to their early grave! Revelations 6:7-8 compare to Luke 21:11

So we have much more than enough reasons to put faith in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who is the Author of the Bible.

But you too can present your òrìsàs perhaps any of them has something worthwhile to say.
Please don't allow the words of the God of the Bible to prove true regarding you and your gods:

Our God is in the heavens; He does whatever he pleases. Their idols are silver and gold, The work of human hands. A mouth they have, but they cannot speak; Eyes, but they cannot see; Ears they have, but they cannot hear; A nose, but they cannot smell; Hands they have, but they cannot feel; Feet, but they cannot walk; They make no sound with their throat. The people who make them will become just like them, As will all those who trust in them. Psalms 115:3-8

Please lets hear whatever you have to say about your òrìsàs.
Please! Please!! Please!!!
Prove to us that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob was just blabbing! )

MaxInDHouse:

Maynman:

your deity is “Almighty” with limited powers

MaxInDHouse:


So in a nutshell you are as dumb as your òrìsàs who has nothing to say about themselves shey? Psalms 115:3-8

No wonder only the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob could confidently Author a book (Bible) and using His active force to push it to all the nations! Act 1:8
It's OK my friend go and cool your head with a bottle of drink!

Maynman:

Your deity keeps predicting that’s why he keeps regretting.
He’s not all powerful afterall.
Dumb Theist, you are just quoting random books with unknown Authors. How many theos are you worshipping?
I’m now your friend? yaldaboath worshipper

MaxInDHouse:


Chai so it's true that your God is speechless!

Please come and worship Jehovah the Almighty God!

MaxInDHouse:


Chai so it's true that your God is speechless!

Please come and worship Jehovah the Almighty God!

oteneaaron:


How can you call him Almighty when he is NOT -

1. Omnipotent - Having all power,

2. Omnipresent - Being everywhere at once or simultaneously, and

3. Omniscient - Having all knowledge both of the present, past and future.

Go and study the history of the God you worship you will not hear.

oteneaaron:

The God that MaxInDHouse worships doesn't meet any of the above criteria, therefore he cannot be the infinite mind behind the whole cosmos.

MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH the God of Watchtower

johnw47:

do you want to see the scriptures?

MaxInDHouse:

I have always given you the privilege to chat but your aggression and fierceness is what makes me ignore you.

MaxInDHouse: So if you want to reason from the scriptures i'm ready.
You can pick any of those three qualities and use the scriptures to prove how your God meets up with it!

johnw47:


oh most dum mad max, calling you: "lost false jw mad max"
isn't aggression and fierceness" it is the truth, you a
habitual liar is lost and is a false jw, oh duh



once again, oh so dum one, i have given scriptures as proof more than once, so funny
and they are straight forward, there is no need to explain them

here are the scriptures yet again oh dum dum:

the Christians God of the Bible knows everything:

1 John 3:20 For whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything

Psa 139:2  You know when I sit and when I rise;  
Psa 139:4  Before a word is on my tongue you, LORD, know it completely. 

Isaiah 42:9 Behold, the former things have come to pass, and new things I now declare; before they spring forth I tell you of them

Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose,’

Psalm 50:11 I know all the birds of the hills,

Hebrews 4:13 And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

Matthew 10:30 But even the hairs of your head are all numbered.


the Christians God of the Bible is everywhere:

Proverbs 15:3 The eyes of the Lord are in every place, keeping watch on the evil and the good.

Jeremiah 23:24 Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord.

Psa 139:7  Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? 
Psa 139:8  If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.



the Christians God of the Bible is all powerful

Matthew 19:26
But Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

Luke 1:37
For nothing will be impossible with God.”

Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord, and abundant in power; his understanding is beyond measure.

Jeremiah 32:17
‘Ah, Lord God! It is you who have made the heavens and the earth by your great power and by your outstretched arm! Nothing is too hard for you.


now lost false jw mad max
let's see you do the twist on God's word

or present your own scriptures showing that JEHOVAH
is not all knowing and that JEHOVAH is not all powerful
and that JEHOVAH is not present everywhere

or both

you false jw's deny JEHOVAH like you deny the Lord Jesus Christ:

1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father

^^ and vice versa

MaxInDHouse:
Which of the titles are you addressing?
Omniscient
Omnipotent
Omnipresent
Just pick one then substantiate using the Bible, i don't follow random debates where you're not specific regarding what you want to say!

johnw47:


lost false jw mad max

oh so very fearful avoider of truth
read the post yet again and see how i yet again gave scripture/proof for all three matters:
JEHOVAH being all knowing
JEHOVAH being all powerful
JEHOVAH being present everywhere

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

johnw47:
according to the Bible
the Christians JEHOVAH the God of the Bible is:
all knowing, all powerful, and is everywhere

according to false jw's, and you are all of the one line of thought
false jw's jehovah the god of watchtower
is not all knowing, is not all powerful, and is not everywhere

MaxInDHouse:
Perhaps you don't understand what i'm saying let me do exactly what i asked you:
Omniscient:
Omnipresent:
The God of the Bible proved that He is not Omniscient when He appeared to Abraham and after promising Abraham a child through Sarah He said He HEARD about the evil of Sodom and Gomorrah so He wants to go there and VERIFY if what He HEARD is true or not! Genesis 18:20-21
Based on this recorded event i believe that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob doesn't know all the things happening on this planet and He is not everywhere, only reports are taking to Him.
So can you address the same points using the scriptures to back it up practically as i just did?

johnw47:

lost false jw mad max
i have given many scriptures many times showing JEHOVAH
knows everything, that JEHOVAH is all powerful and that
JEHOVAH is present everywhere
you have shown one scripture to try and prove that JEHOVAH
does not know everything, that JEHOVAH is not all powerful
and that JEHOVAH is not present everywhere
so against the weight of the scriptures i have presented
your one scripture is obviously wrongly translated
your denying JEHOVAH surprises no one
but stick with your cowardly running away from what i have said and from the scriptures i have given with your false excuses and gibberish:
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Rev 20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

MaxInDHouse:

Apart from the disguise you put up with the other moniker OLAADEGBU, do you have any meaningful discussion with anyone on this forum?
Well the answer is NO!
Do you know why? It's because you're not wise at all for meaningful conversation.
So go and continue with your Kumuyi thread!

MaxInDHouse:

Apart from the disguise you put up with the other moniker OLAADEGBU, do you have any meaningful discussion with anyone on this forum?
Well the answer is NO!
Do you know why? It's because you're not wise at all for meaningful conversation.
So go and continue with your Kumuyi thread!