It's comical to see that so called atheists believe in the reports of non-existent civilisations but refuse to believe in the Bible where we still have the major players still in play today eg Israel, Ishmael (the Arabs and Muslims), Rome, Egypt etc.

All their Ur-Nammus and Hammurabis completely gone; disappeared! The only thing they are happy to hang on to is "they say" a certain ground somewhere digger who said?

Even their neighbour whom they see, his say is not easily acceptable, is it now a person who they have never seen?

This life eh, people dey O

Let me dodge by a corner to help you in case they come overwhelmingly.
Cos they are on autopilot arguements.

Sweetplum:
Let me dodge by a corner to help you in case they come overwhelmingly.
Cos they are on autopilot arguements.

Lol you these people and ignorance

Dliquidmetal:
Lol you these people and ignorance

The people who are big on ignoring are complaining about another person's ignorings! Very funny

Dtruthspeaker:
It's comical to see that so called atheists believe in the reports of non-existent civilisations but refuse to believe in the Bible where we still have the major players still in play today eg Israel, Ishmael (the Arabs and Muslims), Rome, Egypt etc.

LoLz! Yeah archaeological artifacts were made by nonexistent civilisations. Bwahahahahaha!

Dumbest theist on nairaland truly.

LordReed:


LoLz! Yeah archaeological artifacts were made by nonexistent civilisations. Bwahahahahaha!

Yeah, like my 30 yr old sand sculpist can not fabricate those things and claim archeological findings.

Yeah, they are fabrication proof.

Dtruthspeaker:


Yeah, like my 30 yr old sand sculpist can not fabricate those things and claim archeological findings.

Yeah, they are fabrication proof.

Same way my 3 year old can concoct a tale and tell me it was from god. LoLz.

This is like claiming one believes in the now non-existent Songhai Empire or the Roman Empire or the Yoruba empire.

Some threads are just plain dumb.

LordReed:


Same way my 3 year old can concoct a tale and tell me it was from god. LoLz.

True! But your 3 yr old and all men FAIL BECAUSE WE ARE OVER FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY CAN EVER CONCOCT OR CREATE. WE KNOW HOW MEN THINK AND MUST THINK.

SO MAN CAN NOT CONCOCT OR CREATE SOMETHING BEYOND AND OUTSIDE HIS IMAGINATION OR THINKING. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR HIM AS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A 2022 TOYOTA COROLLA TO DRAW ITSELF!

Dtruthspeaker:


True! But your 3 yr old and all men FAIL BECAUSE WE ARE OVER FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY CAN EVER CONCOCT OR CREATE. WE KNOW HOW MEN THINK AND MUST THINK.

SO MAN CAN NOT CONCOCT OR CREATE SOMETHING BEYOND AND OUTSIDE HIS IMAGINATION OR THINKING. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR HIM AS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A 2022 TOYOTA COROLLA TO DRAW ITSELF!

Exactly. There has nothing happened in history that wasn't a result of either what men thought and did or attributed to a god.

LordReed:


Exactly. There has nothing happened in history that wasn't a result of either what men thought and did or attributed to a god.

True! But we very well know all those things which which men can think of as different from the ones which no man can think to say.

Dtruthspeaker:


True! But we very well know all those things which which men can think of as different from the ones which no man can think to say.

All the things we say were thought by human minds.

LordReed:


Same way my 3 year old can concoct a tale and tell me it was from god. LoLz.

If you believe that primitive men imagined and created a lie(religion) to dominate their fellow man, then you should never dismiss the likelyhood that highly intelligent men are equally creating a lie(atheism) to control you.

2elliot:
If you believe that primitive men imagined and created a lie(religion) to dominate their fellow man, then you should never dismiss the likelyhood that highly intelligent men are equally creating a lie(atheism) to control you.

Where did I say any such thing?

Dtruthspeaker:


Yeah, like my 30 yr old sand sculpist can not fabricate those things and claim archeological findings.

Yeah, they are fabrication proof.

Do you believe in empiricism?

DeusXmachina:

Do you believe in empiricism?

You should perhaps first check if he knows what empiricism means, I'd suggest.

DeusXmachina:

Do you believe in empiricism?

empiricism
/ɛmˈpɪrɪsɪz(ə)m/
Learn to pronounce
nounPHILOSOPHY
the theory that all knowledge is based on experience derived from the senses.

I think no!

1) Not all knowledge is acquired by experience or senses.

2) There is knowledge and then there is Truth. That is Truth in Nature or Natural Truth.

I am more interested in Truths that I can use to improve my good and sweet living than in knowing every sense and none-sense out there.

LordReed:


All the things we say were thought by human minds.

And we know the things that men can never ever think of! It is impossible for them.

Dtruthspeaker:


And we know the things that men can never ever think of! It is impossible for them.

If you know them then you thought of them.

LordReed:


If you know them then you thought of them.

And we know the one that can not come from a man.

Dtruthspeaker:


empiricism
/ɛmˈpɪrɪsɪz(ə)m/
Learn to pronounce
nounPHILOSOPHY
the theory that all knowledge is based on experience derived from the senses.

I think no!

1) Not all knowledge is acquired by experience or senses.

2) There is knowledge and then there is Truth. That is Truth in Nature or Natural Truth.

I am more interested in Truths that I can use to improve my good and sweet living than in knowing every sense and none-sense out there.

Is there truth in ignorance, If truth is not knowledge ?
Yahweh worshipper ooo bwahahahah

You just want to TALK.

Dtruthspeaker:


And we know the one that can not come from a man.

It was thought of, told and written by men.

Also, Forged, plagiarised, corrected, edited and complied by men.

as an atheist i have gotten to a point where i dont bother to argue with anyone that their religious beliefs are not real. Because it doesnt fuçking matter. Nothing matters in this life. Let everyone just do whatever rocks their boat

bigjackass:
as an atheist i have gotten to a point where i dont bother to argue with anyone that their religious beliefs are not real. Because it doesnt fuçking matter. Nothing matters in this life. Let everyone just do whatever rocks their boat

well it does matter in a situation where some peoples believes affects my life directly in a discomforting way,I won't let that slide.

Dtruthspeaker:


empiricism
/ɛmˈpɪrɪsɪz(ə)m/
Learn to pronounce
nounPHILOSOPHY
the theory that all knowledge is based on experience derived from the senses.

I think no!

Ok, at least you're honest about this.

So, do you have a method by which you learn and arrive at what is true?

DeusXmachina:

Ok, at least you're honest about this.

So, do you have a method by which you learn and arrive at what is true?

My Personal text:
By Doubting, we are led to Questioning. By Questioning, we arrive at The Truth

Yes!
The same way and process by which a just Court discovers and uncovers and pursues Truths in every matter and arrives at the Truth that is True, which when everyone hears its judgement, they shout in awe as they applaud the Court's decision and praise The Law as no reasonable person can find any fault or unfairness with that judgement.

And how did that just court arrive at the decision?

1) By Knowledge of The Natural Relevant and Applicable Laws covering the subject matter

2) By Knowledge of what things are evidence. Law of Evidence.

3) By knowledge of how evidence being given are rendered unusable as evidence of Truth because they are faulty or bad Evidence must be pure and naturally/reasonably unfaulty to be accepted as Truth. This is where The Law against bad oral evidence aka arguments (called testimony) comes in play called FALL'acy, (like Supreme-acy, immed-acy, intric-acy etc) and Law or Rebuttal or Cancellation or Silence because of inability to give a True Rebuttal evidence because there is none aka inability to counter etc, Law of change of Post/Deviation from Post etc.

All these come in what is called cross-examination.

And after all these filterations of evidence, arguments and Law, any evidence or series which stands in support of an allegation or proposition, is The Pure Truth.

Because.my Signature:
There is No Valid Argument Against The Truth!

He says
"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."
Arthur Conan Doyle

I say!
Eliminate all the eliminatables, whatever remains, no matter how unpleasant and uncomfortable the finding is, is the truth.

And this is because I love Truths even if it kills me

But unlike me, as my thread proves, people do not love Truths.

While some others only want the pleasant ones whilst they cast away and reject the unpleasant one

https://www.nairaland.com/7206212/oya-talk-true-like-truth

And unfortunately for them, they have to first go through this beast and kill it, if they like.

"The truth will set you free, BUT FIRST IT WILL MAKE YOU MISERABLE."
James A. Garfield

DTruthSpeaker!!!!!!
So I just enlightened you about Ur-Nammu's and Hammurabi's code and you go opening different threads to rant about it. Like a little child that learnt about something and goes about telling everyone about that which he or she heard newly?
You're an interesting human being

AuthenticKing:
DTruthSpeaker!!!!!!
So I just enlightened you about Ur-Nammu's and Hammurabi's code and you go opening different threads to rant about it. Like a little child that learnt about something and goes about telling everyone about that which he or she heard newly?
You're an interesting human being

Don't we say we come to learn here?