I created this thread because I've finally arrived at an answer to the question I've been having for the past month. What languages should I focus on to get jobs as a beginner developer.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but the answer I've gotten is making me lean a bit in that direction regarding this subject.

For the past 3 years, social media has been pervaded with lies about the technologies that gives a beginner an advantage in the current job market, especially for those who are self taught.

I've done my research and these are the in demand technologies locally and abroad.

For Frontend:

Reactjs (Redux -Nextjs - Gatsby)
Typescript.
For styling: Tailwind

For Backend:
Nodejs,
PHP with laravel framework
Java with Springboot frame work.
On few occasions I see some ASP.net and Ruby on rails, but the highlighted are the ones that always come up.

For Data Bases: Postgresql and MySQL

On freelance sites, the most in demand language is PHP and I see lots of jobs needing wordpress, magento, drupal and shopify knowledge.

But when you go on social media, everyone will tell you to learn basic HTML CSS and JavaScript as if any company would employ anyone that knows just that. Even learning basic react without any added frameworks is not enough for a front end developer.

The worst is those that tell you to learn Python. I almost never see any Jobs for Python, whether it's the Django framework or Flask. Most jobs in python are in Data science and Machine learning, and you have to be a data scientist or advanced mathematician to work in those fields.

The amount of gatekeeping and lies is astounding. Everyone says PHP is dead, yet, one in every three jobs I see requires PHP.
Four in every five freelancer jobs require PHP.

The only reason I'm even learning Python is just to use in it in solving data structures and algorithms and I won't use it beyond that. I don't have time to start learning Java as I'm preoccupied with JavaScript for frontend and backend, along with DSAs and some PHP laravel. In the future I'll pick it up.

Programming isn't saturated, it's just filled with clueless, incompetent people with half-baked skills who haven't done the right research.

Devdevdev:
I created this thread because I've finally arrived at an answer to the question I've been having for the past month. What languages should I focus on to get jobs as a beginner developer.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but the answer I've gotten is making me lean a bit in that direction regarding this subject.

For the past 3 years, social media has been pervaded with lies about the technologies that gives a beginner an advantage in the current job market, especially for those who are self taught.

I've done my research and these are the in demand technologies locally and abroad.

For Frontend:

Reactjs (Redux -Nextjs - Gatsby)
Typescript.
For styling: Tailwind

For Backend:
Nodejs,
PHP with laravel framework
Java with Springboot frame work.
On few occasions I see some ASP.net and Ruby on rails, but the highlighted are the ones that always come up.

For Data Bases: Postgresql and MySQL

On freelance sites, the most in demand language is PHP and I see lots of jobs needing wordpress, magento, drupal and shopify knowledge.

But when you go on social media, everyone will tell you to learn basic HTML CSS and JavaScript as if any company would employ anyone that knows just that. Even learning basic react without any added frameworks is not enough for a front end developer.

[b]The worst is those that tell you to learn Python. [/b]I almost never see any Jobs for Python, whether it's the Django framework or Flask. Most jobs in python are in Data science and Machine learning, and you have to be a data scientist or advanced mathematician to work in those fields.

The amount of gatekeeping and lies is astounding. Everyone says PHP is dead, yet, one in every three jobs I see requires PHP.
Four in every five freelancer jobs require PHP.

The only reason I'm even learning Python is just to use in it in solving data structures and algorithms and I won't use it beyond that. I don't have time to start learning Java as I'm preoccupied with JavaScript for frontend and backend, along with DSAs and some PHP laravel. In the future I'll pick it up.

Programming isn't saturated, it's just filled with clueless, incompetent people with half-baked skills who haven't done the right research.

This old woman always confusing herself.

Go-to school u will not.


Any frontend dev who doesn't know HTML CSS and JavaScript is not a frontend dev at all.... Wonder why u even included that there as if learning the basics is a bad thing.


Those are the important language u need to learn to be considered a frontend dev.


With those, even you could build your own REACT OR VUE.



Imagine u almost classifying A whole Python as a waste of time.


Where exactly do u do your job searches?


Why is it that you do your very own personal research and then try to push the narrative that your personal research is the fact even without u having any job or being fluent in even on programming language.


What exactly do u know about Python to say it's a waste of time?


Per your headline.... U didn't make any valid points as to how social media have been lying to people.


What will they even gain by lying to people to learn something they shouldn't?

GREATIGBOMAN:



This old woman always confusing herself.

Go-to school u will not.


Any frontend dev who doesn't know HTML CSS and JavaScript is not a frontend dev at all.... Wonder why u even included that there as if learning the basics is a bad thing.


Those are the important language u need to learn to be considered a frontend dev.


With those, even you could build your own REACT OR VUE.



Imagine u almost classifying A whole Python as a waste of time.


Where exactly do u do your job searches?


Why is it that you do your very own personal research and then try to push the narrative that your personal research is the fact even without u having any job or being fluent in even on programming language.


What exactly do u know about Python to say it's a waste of time?


Per your headline.... U didn't make any valid points as to how social media have been lying to people.


What will they even gain by lying to people to learn something they shouldn't?

Look at this fool whose full time job is going from thread to thread on Nairaland insulting people.

I've never seen you post any projects. I've never seen you post about your working experience. Do you even have any skills besides 4 years experience trolling programming section?

At least I'm hungry for knowledge. You are just useless, sad and bitter.

Devdevdev:
I created this thread because I've finally arrived at an answer to the question I've been having for the past month. What languages should I focus on to get jobs as a beginner developer.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but the answer I've gotten is making me lean a bit in that direction regarding this subject.

For the past 3 years, social media has been pervaded with lies about the technologies that gives a beginner an advantage in the current job market, especially for those who are self taught.

I've done my research and these are the in demand technologies locally and abroad.

For Frontend:

Reactjs (Redux -Nextjs - Gatsby)
Typescript.
For styling: Tailwind

For Backend:
Nodejs,
PHP with laravel framework
Java with Springboot frame work.
On few occasions I see some ASP.net and Ruby on rails, but the highlighted are the ones that always come up.

For Data Bases: Postgresql and MySQL

On freelance sites, the most in demand language is PHP and I see lots of jobs needing wordpress, magento, drupal and shopify knowledge.

But when you go on social media, everyone will tell you to learn basic HTML CSS and JavaScript as if any company would employ anyone that knows just that. Even learning basic react without any added frameworks is not enough for a front end developer.

The worst is those that tell you to learn Python. I almost never see any Jobs for Python, whether it's the Django framework or Flask. Most jobs in python are in Data science and Machine learning, and you have to be a data scientist or advanced mathematician to work in those fields.

The amount of gatekeeping and lies is astounding. Everyone says PHP is dead, yet, one in every three jobs I see requires PHP.
Four in every five freelancer jobs require PHP.

The only reason I'm even learning Python is just to use in it in solving data structures and algorithms and I won't use it beyond that. I don't have time to start learning Java as I'm preoccupied with JavaScript for frontend and backend, along with DSAs and some PHP laravel. In the future I'll pick it up.

Programming isn't saturated, it's just filled with clueless, incompetent people with half-baked skills who haven't done the right research.

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Devdevdev:
I created this thread because I've finally arrived at an answer to the question I've been having for the past month. What languages should I focus on to get jobs as a beginner developer.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but the answer I've gotten is making me lean a bit in that direction regarding this subject.

For the past 3 years, social media has been pervaded with lies about the technologies that gives a beginner an advantage in the current job market, especially for those who are self taught.

I've done my research and these are the in demand technologies locally and abroad.

For Frontend:

Reactjs (Redux -Nextjs - Gatsby)
Typescript.
For styling: Tailwind

For Backend:
Nodejs,
PHP with laravel framework
Java with Springboot frame work.
On few occasions I see some ASP.net and Ruby on rails, but the highlighted are the ones that always come up.

For Data Bases: Postgresql and MySQL

On freelance sites, the most in demand language is PHP and I see lots of jobs needing wordpress, magento, drupal and shopify knowledge.

But when you go on social media, everyone will tell you to learn basic HTML CSS and JavaScript as if any company would employ anyone that knows just that. Even learning basic react without any added frameworks is not enough for a front end developer.

The worst is those that tell you to learn Python. I almost never see any Jobs for Python, whether it's the Django framework or Flask. Most jobs in python are in Data science and Machine learning, and you have to be a data scientist or advanced mathematician to work in those fields.

The amount of gatekeeping and lies is astounding. Everyone says PHP is dead, yet, one in every three jobs I see requires PHP.
Four in every five freelancer jobs require PHP.

The only reason I'm even learning Python is just to use in it in solving data structures and algorithms and I won't use it beyond that. I don't have time to start learning Java as I'm preoccupied with JavaScript for frontend and backend, along with DSAs and some PHP laravel. In the future I'll pick it up.

Programming isn't saturated, it's just filled with clueless, incompetent people with half-baked skills who haven't done the right research.

because html,css, JavaScript are the foundation of every web engine, how can you learn typescript, redux if you don't know JavaScript? Also, about which stack are most demanded, it depends where you want to work. In naija, most firms use asp.net for backend and java for mobile development.

Learn whatever programming language you like and create your own projects as a service or as a contractor. Nobody is confused, we are only challenged with limited resources

Devdevdev:

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but the answer I've gotten is making me lean a bit in that direction regarding this subject.

Interesting, maybe you need to get more sleep

On a serious note, I do not know about the lying aspect but your research is true in some areas, Python is majorly for DSA & I rarely see any job roles for Django or Flask, only ML & Data Science engineers use it which aren't that much. Few companies also use Python as their Backend preferred language.

Programming is divided into 2 parts, Freelancing vs Full-time work, the job market & skills needed for both is wide apart, that is why It seems like social media is lying to you. For Freelance, you will need a good knowledge of PHP (Wordpress, Magento, Drupal and Shopify etc), Nodejs, Javascript & Frontend frameworks. For full-time work, you will need a good knowledge of DSA & then other languages and tools you need to learn for either Backend, Frontend or Devops work.

The most annoying part of this is that, Freelancing actually has more job security because you deal with many clients and if lucky, you may even have two long-term contracts for 2 years where earn like you work full-time. No stress & you can sack your client by moving on to another.

Full-time however moves you up the career ladder for positions like Associate Developer, Senior, Staff, Senior Staff & Principal engineer in like 5 to 10 years. Even though these are role titles, it doesn't always mean you earn better than a freelancer because you're a principal engineer.

tosinhtml:


Full-time however moves you up the career ladder for positions like Associate Developer, Senior, Staff, Senior Staff & Principal engineer in like 5 to 10 years. Even though these are role titles, it doesn't always mean you earn better than a freelancer because you're a principal engineer.

True, these are roles in a structured firm and any sound software engineer can quickly get them.

It is also possible to get a gig if you have an excellent understanding of front-end development.

fhranchez:
because html,css, JavaScript are the foundation of every web engine, how can you learn typescript, redux if you don't know JavaScript? Also, about which stack are most demanded, it depends where you want to work. In naija, most firms use asp.net for backend and java for mobile development.

Learn whatever programming language you like and create your own projects as a service or as a contractor. Nobody is confused, we are only challenged with limited resources

Limited resources? For real?

Jahzrockballer:
Limited resources? For real?

depends on the way you look at it

fhranchez:
depends on the way you look at it

Okay, I get

Well Django is for projects you get and you just want to speed up development.
Learning html CSS and JavaScript is important for front end developer cause all frontend frameworks were built with that... In fact if you know them well you can build your own framework. I know someone that has his own frontend framework.
For PHP it will never die cause at the moment we have most scripts and projects that are sold online written in PHP.
NodeJs comes with its backlog of single threading it's it strength as well as it's weakness.
Ruby is the only language you'd learn if you follow microverse 8 months training and there is strong argument that it is relevant even today.
Go Lang is one language if you want speed and something easy to learn. Although few jobs here for goland..
So before learning a framework be very comfortable with the language.
Nodejs for example this was my learning flow. JavaScript -> NodeJS -> expressjs -> fastify

fhranchez:
because html,css, JavaScript are the foundation of every web engine, how can you learn typescript, redux if you don't know JavaScript? Also, about which stack are most demanded, it depends where you want to work. In naija, most firms use asp.net for backend and java for mobile development.

Learn whatever programming language you like and create your own projects as a service or as a contractor. Nobody is confused, we are only challenged with limited resources

Are you working on any at the moment... I created a project on webrtc as a service omoh it's been crazy... I never go anywhere yet

tosinhtml:


Interesting, maybe you need to get more sleep

On a serious note, I do not know about the lying aspect but your research is true in some areas, Python is majorly for DSA & I rarely see any job roles for Django or Flask, only ML & Data Science engineers use it which aren't that much. Few companies also use Python as their Backend preferred language.

Programming is divided into 2 parts, Freelancing vs Full-time work, the job market & skills needed for both is wide apart, that is why It seems like social media is lying to you. For Freelance, you will need a good knowledge of PHP (Wordpress, Magento, Drupal and Shopify etc), Nodejs, Javascript & Frontend frameworks. For full-time work, you will need a good knowledge of DSA & then other languages and tools you need to learn for either Backend, Frontend or Devops work.

The most annoying part of this is that, Freelancing actually has more job security because you deal with many clients and if lucky, you may even have two long-term contracts for 2 years where earn like you work full-time. No stress & you can sack your client by moving on to another.

Full-time however moves you up the career ladder for positions like Associate Developer, Senior, Staff, Senior Staff & Principal engineer in like 5 to 10 years. Even though these are role titles, it doesn't always mean you earn better than a freelancer because you're a principal engineer.

A freelancer might have months of no clients too but full time jobs are always certain of pay by month ends... Freelance jobs are more demanding especially if a Nigerian is your client... Trust me I'm tired of freelancing I need a remote job at the moment.

eventainment:

Are you working on any at the moment... I created a project on webrtc as a service omoh it's been crazy... I never go anywhere yet

Tell me more about this your webrtc project

airsaylongcome:


Tell me more about this your webrtc project

If you've used agora before?? They are SAAS platform that provide video and audio calls via their API and their front-end packages. Trying to create similar product but with some twists. Meaning they handle all the stress of setting up webrtc

eventainment:


If you've used agora before?? They are SAAS platform that provide video and audio calls via their API and their front-end packages. Trying to create similar product but with some twists. Meaning they handle all the stress of setting up webrtc

my "day time" job is for a VOIP SaaS provider so yes I'm conversant with those. Just wanted to hear a bit more about what you were building and the thinking behind it

airsaylongcome:


my "day time" job is for a VOIP SaaS provider so yes I'm conversant with those. Just wanted to hear a bit more about what you were building and the thinking behind it

Wow awesome... Which SAAS please
Cause at the moment I'm stuck on how to structure the backend still thinking on how to create a handshake with NodeJS as against the webrtc.org implementation with firebase

eventainment:


Wow awesome... Which SAAS please

That will be mentioning my employers to you on a public forum which I'm not very keen on doing. We provide a service similar to RingCentral and 8x8. Business Telephony systems

airsaylongcome:


That will be mentioning my employers to you on a public forum which I'm not very keen on doing. We provide a service similar to RingCentral and 8x8. Business Telephony systems

True... Wow that's cool..... First time I'm putting myself out to source for jobs. So hopefully by the end of this month I would have gotten one but before then I'm working on startup projects and projects I could sell or license on codecanyon

airsaylongcome:


That will be mentioning my employers to you on a public forum which I'm not very keen on doing. We provide a service similar to RingCentral and 8x8. Business Telephony systems

And I'll do much appreciate if I could get more info on my rtc path please

eventainment:

And I'll do much appreciate if I could get more info on my rtc path please

I've seen a few gigs on Upwork about building webRTC for Freeswitch and Asterisk. I do a lot of work with Asterisk and have been learning Freeswitch lately. So perhaps you can have a look at that route

airsaylongcome:


I've seen a few gigs on Upwork about building webRTC for Freeswitch and Asterisk. I do a lot of work with Asterisk and have been learning Freeswitch lately. So perhaps you can have a look at that route

Thank you...

airsaylongcome:


I've seen a few gigs on Upwork about building webRTC for Freeswitch and Asterisk. I do a lot of work with Asterisk and have been learning Freeswitch lately. So perhaps you can have a look at that route

About the asterisk is there any material I can reference... Preferably pdf or documentation.. thank you

It's only on nairaland I've been seeing aspiring developers with entitled mentality, Shey sm dey owe you anything ni abi without sm would you have heard of this technologies, even these organization that hires sef doesn't owe you anything, even to get job I believe one has to have a solid skills to prove you're worthy of the job

I think the problem with most of y'all is being unable to make your own research and know demanding skills, yes sm over hyped this frontend skills but does that mean their jobs doesn't exist and must you tag along with what everyone else go with.

One thing I'm good at is taking hint, I've heard senior developers giving out this hints and whenever they do I put the skills on my bucket list of skills to learn, I've seen qtguru done that very well here, even recently he was looking for a magento developer which I doubt if he had seen anyone, imagine having that skills and landing the job you'll enjoy your pay with zero competition, even on upwork I've seen automation jobs and many other special skills this employers posts and couldn't find who to apply for it for weeks.
Op don't wait till you're being told what to do, go in there and have a field day

eventainment:

About the asterisk is there any material I can reference... Preferably pdf or documentation.. thank you

Asterisk: The Definitive Guide 5th Ed

airsaylongcome:


Asterisk: The Definitive Guide 5th Ed

Thanks I've downloaded it

Maxxim:
It's only on nairaland I've been seeing aspiring developers with entitled mentality, Shey sm dey owe you anything ni abi without sm would you have heard of this technologies, even these organization that hires sef doesn't owe you anything, even to get job I believe one has to have a solid skills to prove you're worthy of the job

I think the problem with most of y'all is being unable to make your own research and know demanding skills, yes sm over hyped this frontend skills but does that mean their jobs doesn't exist and must you tag along with what everyone else go with.

One thing I'm good at is taking hint, I've heard senior developers giving out this hints and whenever they do I put the skills on my bucket list of skills to learn, I've seen qtguru done that very well here, even recently he was looking for a magento developer which I doubt if he had seen anyone, imagine having that skills and landing the job you'll enjoy your pay with zero competition, even on upwork I've seen automation jobs and many other special skills this employers posts and couldn't find who to apply for it for weeks.
Op don't wait till you're being told what to do, go in there and have a field day

NL section here is a joke, people who are serious know what to do, to find gigs, others just open topics and troll all day. I'm done with this section, the serious ones always reach out to me and make something of their lives. I hate people making assumptions without putting in the work.

Someone new to programming is creating topics up and down. smh

Maximm you will be fine, just keep studying.

Someone with less than one month experience is already complaining up and down.... Like seriously!


Mrs coconut head... This field is not a Ponzi or get rich quick scheme.... Even 5 years ago some persons had same mentality like u right now... They were busy complaining and later gave up while their mates and those who knew what to do are now senior devs earning large sums.


U haven't built even a Todo app and you're complaining left and right of no jobs or anything.


Do you think currently you're qualified for any job in web dev?


U don't know anything or how the market works you're here typing rubbish and nonsense.


Almost every month I get an offer on my LinkedIn.... U haven't climbed even one step on the ladder to success in this field and you're busy complaining like someone seeing her monthly flow.


I'm certainly sure you'll quit.


Just quit and stop creating this useless threads.


Anyone interested in programming when they come around and see your threads they'll just call it quit even without trying.


Your threads are causing more damage than u think.


That's why I always tell you you're useless and your IQ is more like -132

Within 3 weeks you've jumped from HTML to learning REACT without actually knowing the core aspects of JavaScript and u think you're smart.


Dummy!!


You'll fail woefully!!


No sugarcoating!!

qtguru:


NL section here is a joke, people who are serious know what to do, to find gigs, others just open topics and troll all day. I'm done with this section, the serious ones always reach out to me and make something of their lives. I hate people making assumptions without putting in the work.

Someone new to programming is creating topics up and down. smh

Maximm you will be fine, just keep studying.

You're right boss, I believe someone whose mind is made up would have made some effort instead of whining all day.

Thanks for the heads up, enjoy your weekend sir

eventainment:


A freelancer might have months of no clients too but full time jobs are always certain of pay by month ends... Freelance jobs are more demanding especially if a Nigerian is your client... Trust me I'm tired of freelancing I need a remote job at the moment.

Have you tried freelancing on upwork? Please give it a try. Leave Nigerian clients for now.

tosinhtml:


Have you tried freelancing on upwork? Please give it a try. Leave Nigerian clients for now.

Yeah I've submitted 2 proposals so far. Got one .. will submit today again... I'm just looking for good that will be up to 6 months not immediate ones