I am filled with deep pity, regret and anger on how Nigerians abroad, and indeed the entire country are being treated by other African Nations. Its as if our govt derives pleasure in playing 'mugun' to them. Whenever any African country is in trouble, the first country to the rescue is usually Nigeria- we did it in liberia, in sierra leone, in sudan and especially in South Africa. Yet, immediately these countries have their problems resolved, they quickly find all means of ensuring that our efforts are blotted out of history, and then turn around to show hate, distrust and animosity towards us.
i have witnesse the way Nigerians in South Africa are being treated, despite the fact that one of the reasons they are enjoying democracy today is because of the Nigerian govt's aid and assistance during the apartheid regime. Nigeria aided them heavily with finance, political assistance, granted more than 300 passports to people fleeing and even free education to them. Yet today, you need to see how the South African govt continues to spit on Nigerians, from even their embassy here. Similar stories are being faced by our citizens in other part of the continent.
Its like wenever they are in trouble, then they remember that somewhre in the continent lies "the mesiah", but as soon as the going gets smooth, they quickly tag us as 'criminals' afterall.
But who is really to blame in all this? It is both the Nigerian govt and its citizens, in my own opinion. They way we tarnish our image before the world wherever we go is so disheartening. I am currently in Sa, and i can tell that the level of criminal activities here is hundred times worse than that of Nigeria. In nigeria, our biggest problem is simply corruption and greed. But in SA, people are virtually being murdered on a daily basis, the cases of rape are astronomical, lets not even venture into hate crimes, theft and vandalism! But inspite of these, you will rarely hear the average south african speaking ill of the country. Their news agencies have mastered the art of sugar-coating the ills of the society, while at the same time blowing nigeria's trumpet of attrocities.Anyone who is caught doing anything criminal here, quickly pushes the blame to "a nigerian". A south african woman was caught using stolen credit card few weeks ago, and her only defence was "a nigerian" gave it to me. our govt must wake up and stop wasting our resources on these ungrateful and useless countries!

This is so pathetic! Our government must wake up and stop spending our limited resources on these useless countries!

thh

this assistance that you are talking about - how come it did not extend to libya or ivory coast ?

who voted in favour of the no flyzone over libya?

who assisted the north atlantic terrorist organisation with the invasion of two african nations?

nigeria is one of the most cowardly nations in africa - in the 1970s opec imposed an oil embargo on america which almost lead to the collapse of the US economy - nigeria under gowon was the only oil producing country which agreed to continue exporting oil to america - instead of forming an alliance with their fellow oil exporting nations they submissively gave in to their oppressors.

so i dont know where you are getting this your information about nigeria playing big brother to the rest of africa from.

dont confuse people

nigeria never assisted south africa in financial aid during apatheid, yes assisted ANC or political parties in  the fight of democracy

learn to separate SA and ANC or other parties

Vorster's attitude towards other African countries was not so much a modification of strategy as a continuance of Verwoerd's approach. Vorster's forerunner had already become aware of the fact that cordial dealings with as many black states as possible was of paramount importance. As more and more African states acquired statehood from their colonial rulers, bitterness towards South African apatrheid system increased. If South Africa did not wish to become completely cut off from the rest of the African continent, she had to sustain gracious associations with it, starting, of course, with mutual economic support. Vorster persisted with this strategy and built good relationships with a number of independent African states.
In 1967, Vorster proffered technological and fiscal counsel gratis to any African state prepared to receive it, asserting that absolutely no political strings were attached. He gave great attention to financial facets, aware of the fact that many African states were very run-down and would require financial aid in spite of their rebuffing of South Africa's racial principles. Malawi and Lesotho were the first countries to enter discussions with the NP government. Angola and Mozambique soon followed.
One of the first steps to take in initiating dealings was to convene with the heads of these African countries. Here Vorster worked decidedly contrary to Verwoerd's policies. Where Verwoerd had declined to get together and engage in dialogue with such leaders as Abubakar Tafawa Balewa of Nigeria in 1962 and Kenneth Kaunda of Zambia in 1964, Vorster, in 1966, met with the heads of the states of Lesotho, Swaziland and Botswana. There was still mutual suspiciousness, however, particularly after Vorster's denunciation of the Lusaka Manifesto in 1969. Botswana, Lesotho and Swaziland stayed candid critics of apartheid, but they hinged on South Africa's economic aid. This was inclusive of pecuniary credit and the fact that many natives from these states worked the South African mines.
Malawi was the first country not on South African borders to accept South African aid. She identified the monetary benefits of such a deal, for there were also many Malawians working in South African mines. In 1967, the two states delineated their political and economic relations, and, in 1969, Malawi became the only country at the assembly which did not sign the Lusaka Manifesto. In 1970, Malawian President Hastings Banda made his first and most successful official stopover in South Africa.
Associations with Mozambique followed suit and were sustained after that country won its sovereignty in 1975. Angola was also granted South African loans. Other countries which formed relationships with South Africa were Liberia, the Ivory Coast, Madagascar, Mauritius, Gabon, Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of the Congo), Ghana and the Central African Republic. These African states slammed apartheid (more than ever after South Africa's denunciation of the Lusaka Manifesto), but fiscal reliance on South Africa, together with fear of her armed potency, resulted in their forming the aforementioned ties.

ZIM DRILL:

dont confuse people

nigeria never assisted south africa in financial aid during apatheid, yes assisted ANC or political parties in  the fight of democracy

learn to separate SA and ANC or other parties

Vorster's attitude towards other African countries was not so much a modification of strategy as a continuance of Verwoerd's approach. Vorster's forerunner had already become aware of the fact that cordial dealings with as many black states as possible was of paramount importance. As more and more African states acquired statehood from their colonial rulers, bitterness towards South African apatrheid system increased. If South Africa did not wish to become completely cut off from the rest of the African continent, she had to sustain gracious associations with it, starting, of course, with mutual economic support. Vorster persisted with this strategy and built good relationships with a number of independent African states.
In 1967, Vorster proffered technological and fiscal counsel gratis to any African state prepared to receive it, asserting that absolutely no political strings were attached. He gave great attention to financial facets, aware of the fact that many African states were very run-down and would require financial aid in spite of their rebuffing of South Africa's racial principles. Malawi and Lesotho were the first countries to enter discussions with the NP government. Angola and Mozambique soon followed.
One of the first steps to take in initiating dealings was to convene with the heads of these African countries. Here Vorster worked decidedly contrary to Verwoerd's policies. Where Verwoerd had declined to get together and engage in dialogue with such leaders as Abubakar Tafawa Balewa of Nigeria in 1962 and Kenneth Kaunda of Zambia in 1964, Vorster, in 1966, met with the heads of the states of Lesotho, Swaziland and Botswana. There was still mutual suspiciousness, however, particularly after Vorster's denunciation of the Lusaka Manifesto in 1969. Botswana, Lesotho and Swaziland stayed candid critics of apartheid, but they hinged on South Africa's economic aid. This was inclusive of pecuniary credit and the fact that many natives from these states worked the South African mines.
Malawi was the first country not on South African borders to accept South African aid. She identified the monetary benefits of such a deal, for there were also many Malawians working in South African mines. In 1967, the two states delineated their political and economic relations, and, in 1969, Malawi became the only country at the assembly which did not sign the Lusaka Manifesto. In 1970, Malawian President Hastings Banda made his first and most successful official stopover in South Africa.
Associations with Mozambique followed suit and were sustained after that country won its sovereignty in 1975. Angola was also granted South African loans. Other countries which formed relationships with South Africa were Liberia, the Ivory Coast, Madagascar, Mauritius, Gabon, Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of the Congo), Ghana and the Central African Republic. These African states slammed apartheid (more than ever after South Africa's denunciation of the Lusaka Manifesto), but fiscal reliance on South Africa, together with fear of her armed potency, resulted in their forming the aforementioned ties.

SORRY TO SAY, BUT YOUR QUOTATION HAS NO BEARING WITH YOUR ARGUMENT! sECONDLY, IT IS RIDICULOUS TO ATTEMPT TO SEPERATE TNE RISE OF anc FROM THE FALL OF THE APARTHEID GOVERNMENT IN SOUTH AFRICA. wITHOUT THE GREAT SACRIFICES OF PPLE LIKE mANDELA (WHO WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF ANC) THE APATHEID REGIME WOULD HAVE PERSISTED TILL DATE. AND WITHOUT THE ASSISTANCE OF THE NIG GOVT, APARTHEID WOULD NOT HAVE DIED.
YOUR ARGUMENT IS THE VERY POSTION THAT MAKES OUR EFFORTS SEEM IN VAIN, UR SYSTEMIC WAYS OF ATTEMPTING TO REWRITE A FALACIOUS HISTORICAL EVENTS

Well, i am assuming u are a nigerian. So before you begin to chant your obvious disdain for your country, ask your self, How many other countries are wholly dependent on oil like nigeria? Are you prepared to face reciprocal sanctions from the US, what with your population of over a hundred million mouths to feed?
And how dare you question nigeria's peace efforts in African countries, which is very much widely known and commended by the entire international community? Maybe if you had loved ones who had sacrificed their lives to end the war in these countries then you would appreciate what i am saying.
And with the issue of no fly zone, i am shocked at ur level of daftness. You obviously have never experienced war before. Pple like just sit in the comfort of their homes typing rubbish online. We are talking of hundreds of civilian lives perishing, and you busy raising issuing of no fly zone. To hell with politics, every human being's paramonunt motive must be, first to do everything within our powers to save lives!
Today the pple of libya are jubiliating at their final freedom after 42yrs, and people like you are, yet again quick to chastise international efforts in ensuring such freedom.

Maybe u should take some time to pay a visit to one of these waring countries, then you will understand the kind of sacrifice we made, and are still making as a country.
You think the title of "Giant of Africa" is for nothing? Nigeria has proved itself time and time again as a force to be reckoned with within the African continent.
So please try and be patroitic for once!

cap28:

this assistance that you are talking about - how come it did not extend to libya or ivory coast ?

who voted in favour of the no flyzone over libya?

who assisted the north atlantic terrorist organisation with the invasion of two african nations?

nigeria is one of the most cowardly nations in africa - in the 1970s opec imposed an oil embargo on america which almost lead to the collapse of the US economy - nigeria under gowon was the only oil producing country which agreed to continue exporting oil to america - instead of forming an alliance with their fellow oil exporting nations they submissively gave in to their oppressors.

so i dont know where you are getting this your information about nigeria playing big brother to the rest of africa from.

Nigeria govt are nothing but a puppet for the western powers. Now that UN building has been bombed I guess maybe its time for no fly zone on nigeria. Any crisis in nigeria will only benefit the niger delta becos they have the support of the west. Nigeria is a failed state in a failed continent

blackpanda:

Well, i am assuming u are a nigerian. So before you begin to chant your obvious disdain for your country, ask your self, How many other countries are wholly dependent on oil like nigeria? Are you prepared to face reciprocal sanctions from the US, what with your population of over a hundred million mouths to feed?

nigeria is already facing severe economic hardship in the form of austerity measures which are currently being implemented by the two lackeys in nigeria who serve us and british economic interests - the lackeys im referring to are of course GEJ and okonjo iweala.
at the moment nigeria has no control over how much it sells its oil neither has it any control over the value of its own currency, so who is fooling who here?
if nigerian coward leaders had any self respect they would sever links with the west and concentrate on trading with china, brazil and india - as long as nigeria allows america and europe to pull their strings they will never get a fair deal for the  people of nigeria all nigerians will ever have to look forwar to will be SAP, privatisation of govt owned services, lower and lower standard of living and a continuous rise in the price of food and other essentials

And how dare you question nigeria's peace efforts in African countries, which is very much widely known and commended by the entire international community? Maybe if you had loved ones who had sacrificed their lives to end the war in these countries then you would appreciate what i am saying.

if you want to live on cloud cuckoo land that is your prerogative but for those of us who prefer reality we know that the nigerian army as well as ecomog are  nothign more than NATO's african infantry - the europeans prefer to use africans to fight in places where there is a likelihood of sustaining high  casualties, sadly these wars that are being fought are only benefitting us and european multinationals, africans are just being used as pawns - this has been going on for almost a century and im suprised that you havent been able to see through it.

And with the issue of no fly zone, i am shocked at your level of daftness. You obviously have never experienced war before. Pple like just sit in the comfort of their homes typing rubbish online. We are talking of hundreds of civilian lives perishing, and you busy raising issuing of no fly zone. To hell with politics, every human being's paramonunt motive must be, first to do everything within our powers to save lives!
Today the pple of libya are jubiliating at their final freedom after 42yrs, and people like you are, yet again quick to chastise international efforts in ensuring such freedom.

really? so why is nato using apache helicopters to strafe civillians in the streets of tripoli, and why have they sent no less than 65,000 air sorties to drop missiles on innocent libyan civillians, why is the civillian casualty list rising since they invaded tripoli?
why have they been bombing hospitals, schools, food storage units, mosques, hotels and residential areas?

Maybe u should take some time to pay a visit to one of these waring countries, then you will understand the kind of sacrifice we made, and are still making as a country.
You think the title of "Giant of Africa" is for nothing? Nigeria has proved itself time and time again as a force to be reckoned with within the African continent.
So please try and be patroitic for once!

the giant of africa moniker is one of the biggest misnomers of all time -giant at doing what exactly? corruption, looting of public funds, imposing misery on their own citizens, being lackeys and houseboys of the west - take  your pick.

blackpanda:


SORRY TO SAY, BUT YOUR QUOTATION HAS NO BEARING WITH YOUR ARGUMENT! sECONDLY, IT IS RIDICULOUS TO ATTEMPT TO SEPERATE TNE RISE OF anc FROM THE FALL OF THE APARTHEID GOVERNMENT IN SOUTH AFRICA. wITHOUT THE GREAT SACRIFICES OF PPLE LIKE mANDELA (WHO WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF ANC) THE APATHEID REGIME WOULD HAVE PERSISTED TILL DATE. AND WITHOUT THE ASSISTANCE OF THE NIG GOVT, APARTHEID WOULD NOT HAVE DIED.
YOUR ARGUMENT IS THE VERY POSTION THAT MAKES OUR EFFORTS SEEM IN VAIN, your SYSTEMIC WAYS OF ATTEMPTING TO REWRITE A FALACIOUS HISTORICAL EVENTS

read again you find out that SA was actaully giving aid to other african countries, why would SA get aid from nigeria then at the same time it gives aid to more than 5 african countries

i dont deny the aid in financing political parties that fought the apartheid so learn to separate those two, like my own zimbabwe it never helped SA as government but it helped ANC, PAC etc (those are parties ) most ANC members were help by zim government in seeking refugee in zim --- in simple terms zimbabwe government helped ANC

blackpanda:

Well, i am assuming u are a nigerian. So before you begin to chant your obvious disdain for your country, ask your self, How many other countries are wholly dependent on oil like nigeria? Are you prepared to face reciprocal sanctions from the US, what with your population of over a hundred million mouths to feed?
And how dare you question nigeria's peace efforts in African countries, which is very much widely known and commended by the entire international community? Maybe if you had loved ones who had sacrificed their lives to end the war in these countries then you would appreciate what i am saying.

CAP28 who hell is this Newbeee.? please dude u need to chill, some of us how been in conflict zones
and have done military service around the world (like myself 6 year service)and know better why wars & proxy wars are fought not in the interest for freedom but for land & RESOURCES!!.so just shut it!!!


You need to Listen to this Man before you talk crock!!!

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cap28:

READ YOUR RESPONSE to Blackpanda, spot on (MARTINOSI)

This guys must be living in a dream world @ cap28, lol but you broke it down for him as best as you could,
let him go and chew on that and digest it well before posting a reply back to you.

I guess he should be more humble by now, lol

You're simply trying to say that we shud stop embracing them cos they are not embracing us. But come to think of it, if another nation comes to your country and majority of what they do is illegality, would you continue tolerating them? Didn't we try to push Ghanians out in the 1980s?

This is a bunch of junk.
The fact that Goodluck is a western stooge legalizing the rape of african nations by europeans, ascertains the ugly role played by this fake Good Samaritan.

martinosi:

This guys must be living in a dream world @ cap28, lol but you broke it down for him as best as you could,
let him go and chew on that and digest it well before posting a reply back to you.

I guess he should be more humble by now, lol

bro thanks for posting that video clip about war being a racket - i remember reading about that US general smedley butler but i like this re-enactment