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The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by AlexBells(m): 7:21am On Dec 11, 2022
Of the three major tribes in Nigeria, Yorubas are the only one that want secession without being provoked and I think it is high time Nigeria genuinely looks into it, because some candidates might exploit that if 2023 election don’t go their way.

I have met very close people even here on nairaland, who now are close to me to home and they know that even as an aspiring Igbo politician, I don’t pay much attention to the Biafran questions this is because I know that the Biafran question is situational, my people are nationalist but don’t take injustice so I’d rather fight for justice first before fighting the bigger battle of secession, to me it about choosing the least costly battle.

For every time the Igbo nation has taken extreme measures, there were provocation, we went to war because after 1966 coup was termed Igbo coup, fine and good, there was counter coup, ladies and gentlemen agreed that was a draw match, why then did Gowon create the states without carrying Ojukwu and the East along? You see there was a provocation there not minding that in 1945 and 1955 Igbos was massacred in the North.

I had never endorsed the regional government ever since I became exposed to integral part of some vital documentations, I continue to say it, regional government despite its characteristic material success was incapable of protecting human lives and properties as regional sponsored terrorism was the event of those days, everyone would tell the glories of regional government without telling its horror. Talk about the Igbo massacre in the North, the then impending invasion of middle belt as happening today, the wild Wild West in the west, these are carnage of regional government that informed the decision of some passionate yet unsophisticated young soldiers led by Kaduna Nzeogwu to dismantle the system with absolute success yet excess cost.

I remain sorry and regrets that Zik wasn’t killed, I’m a core Zikist who love Zik to pieces but he was a waste of oxygen afterwards, he deserved to die with his fellow founding fathers, that could have solidified our statehood with the much needed priced blood of glory. Yorubas on the other hand had never even interpreted provocation as a means to demand exit, it is like an inherent trait in a large numbers of them to want to stay on their own, Nigeria government should grant Oduduwa referendum but hold on with Biafran referendum until the Igbos heal, if you conduct Biafran referendum currently people would make that choice emotionally.

They killed, Abiola, I remain sorry for Akintola, they killed Fajuyi, and Awolowo was humiliated all his life yet the Yorubas didn’t see those as enough provocation to demand exit, yet every now and then they think about some success and wanting to enjoy some imaginary wealth alone however I sincerely know that their wealth notion is a mirage, it is the sweat of majority of Nigerians giving them that unreal sense of wealth in modern Nigeria, of course cocoa house was a great feet in the sixties but we all know that oil money built the modern Lagos and Abuja and Ibadan is nowhere to be found as a formal regional capital of the western country, if the wealth is real, Ibadan should be as advanced as Lagos or even more.

Federal government should look into Oduduwa referendum, let the Yorubas decide if they want to stay or leave, the Igbos have a very long destiny with the North that even if we separate we still need lots of understanding with them especially as Zik hinted long ago, on their use of the Niger River since that’s their only slim access to the sea and they are threatened by desertification, eventually we would work something out with the North in all sincerity so everyone should support the Yorubas to a referendum.

The Igbo Nation had always been considerate when dealing with everyone, I know there had been serious distrust and now we can separate terrorist from the good people of the North, the Igbos won’t turn our back on the North in the event that the Yorubas leave, I want to believe that Peter Obi would look into Oduduwa referendum so Real Omoluabis; what are you waiting for?

I have also assured the North that the Igbos won’t abandone them without water and given steady threat of desertification, the Igbo man is considerate. Oduduwa referendum is a crucial question, Biafra and Igbo Nation needs healing first and the North have our assurance, so far as the Niger flow and there’s a goodwill with the Igbos, the North won’t be landlocked, but the Yorubas needs to decide if they want to stay in Nigeria or not, for the Igbos, we will be here until maybe Nigeria fail to the very core, real Igbos don’t run, colors don’t run.
Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by Nobody: 7:26am On Dec 11, 2022
Whoever read this novel should please summarize in 3 sentences
Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by Hopebringer: 7:36am On Dec 11, 2022
The OP is mad. He is a Yoruba tribalist and as usual trying to paint all other none Tinubu supporters In a bad light

This is who the Yoruba are. They want everyone to bow and vote their brother by force and when you refuse they start to guilt trip you and call you all sorts of name slike nyamiri ,or ipob or Ibo

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Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by AlexBells(m): 7:42am On Dec 11, 2022
Hopebringer:
The OP is mad. He is a Yoruba tribalist and as usual trying to paint all other none Tinubu supporters In a bad light

This is who the Yoruba are. They want everyone to bow and vote their brother by force and when you refuse they start to guilt trip you and call you all sorts of name slike nyamiri ,or ipob or Ibo
Who is Yoruba lol, the summary is that If I were A President or have a way to impact the presidency, I would grant Oduduwa referendum instead of reverting to regional/parliamentary government, the secessionist among some Yorubas are constantly undermining Nigeria, let give them a chance to chose, forget Tinubu, in sane clime the only place his poster should be is in wanted list, if Nigerians are dumb enough to vote him, I’m not bothered
Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by FrancescoFarino(f): 7:46am On Dec 11, 2022
nothing surprises me anymore

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Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by Asgard73: 7:47am On Dec 11, 2022
Yoruba will leave nigeria the very day.. an igboman becomes President of this country..

The North deals with Yoruba people based on Muslim.. and Islamic gateway to the south..

Everything is not about ocean and sea.. the north has been “ there “ longer than any region and had enough power and resources to dredge the niger up.. yet the careless .. prefer to remain incharge of NPA.. leaving the aviation to yoruba ..

Northern nigeria trust easterners when it comes to business.. politcs.. No. simply because they rebelled .. north believe Yoruba don’t have the mindset to rebel .. so they’re lesser devil .. as long as oil remains the major factor in Nigeria

Nigeria at best .. to accommodate all.. need to be restructured
A southern unity and restructuring is the greatest fear of the North.. but will that ever be possible? When they’ve already conquered the south with religion? And will always find useful tools, humans to destabilize south.

Don’t forget .. Britain handed over the country to North .. and as long as Nigeria exist.. Britain will always always go with the north..


Why not the south? Since the oil is in the south? grin

Guess Alex .. you already know the answer from your government studies back in sec school
Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by AlexBells(m): 8:01am On Dec 11, 2022
Asgard73:
Yoruba will leave nigeria the very day.. an igboman becomes President of this country..

The North deals with Yoruba people based on Muslim.. and Islamic gateway to the south..

Everything is not about ocean and sea.. the north has been “ there “ longer than any region and had enough power and resources to dredge the niger up.. yet the careless .. prefer to remain incharge of NPA.. leaving the aviation to yoruba ..

Northern nigeria trust easterners when it comes to business.. politcs.. No. simply because they rebelled .. north believe Yoruba don’t have the mindset to rebel .. so they’re lesser devil .. as long as oil remains the major factor in Nigeria

Nigeria at best .. to accommodate all.. need to be restructured
A southern unity and restructuring is the greatest fear of the North.. but will that ever be possible? When they’ve already conquered the south with religion? And will always find useful tools, humans to destabilize south.

Don’t forget .. Britain handed over the country to North .. and as long as Nigeria exist.. Britain will always always go with the north..


Why not the south? Since the oil is in the south? grin

Guess Alex .. you already know the answer from your government studies back in sec school
Britain did not hand over the country to the North it was Zik that struck the master stoke deal to have North with more seat so they can accept independence, the North said they were not ready, you talk about dredging the Niger up to the North, do you know about the cost, that would have to submerge 60% of Igboland since the Niger runs through AlaIgbo, you talk about South resources, stop feeling too important, the North has way more resources than the South, it is only sea access that is humbling the North. Think about solid minerals who compares with the North, don’t even think you have more hydrocarbon than the North.

Restructuring is not in the equation, you can argue for resources control like Wike is doing but restructuring back to regional/paliament NO, instead of that, let’s break up
Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by Kilometres: 8:08am On Dec 11, 2022
Asgard73:
Yoruba will leave nigeria the very day.. an igboman becomes President of this country..

The North deals with Yoruba people based on Muslim.. and Islamic gateway to the south..

Everything is not about ocean and sea.. the north has been “ there “ longer than any region and had enough power and resources to dredge the niger up.. yet the careless .. prefer to remain incharge of NPA.. leaving the aviation to yoruba ..

Northern nigeria trust easterners when it comes to business.. politcs.. No. simply because they rebelled .. north believe Yoruba don’t have the mindset to rebel .. so they’re lesser devil .. as long as oil remains the major factor in Nigeria

Nigeria at best .. to accommodate all.. need to be restructured
A southern unity and restructuring is the greatest fear of the North.. but will that ever be possible? When they’ve already conquered the south with religion? And will always find useful tools, humans to destabilize south.

Don’t forget .. Britain handed over the country to North .. and as long as Nigeria exist.. Britain will always always go with the north..


Why not the south? Since the oil is in the south? grin

Guess Alex .. you already know the answer from your government studies back in sec school

Bursted

So all those your power to the north is out of cowardice....hiding under North but na ipob you be?

You can't fool everybody

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Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by Nobody: 8:15am On Dec 11, 2022
Hopebringer:
The OP is mad. He is a Yoruba tribalist and as usual trying to paint all other none Tinubu supporters In a bad light

This is who the Yoruba are. They want everyone to bow and vote their brother by force and when you refuse they start to guilt trip you and call you all sorts of name slike nyamiri ,or ipob or Ibo

Try and read properly so you understand what is written.

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Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by TinubuDeDrugLor: 8:23am On Dec 11, 2022
Hopebringer:
The OP is mad. He is a Yoruba tribalist and as usual trying to paint all other none Tinubu supporters In a bad light

This is who the Yoruba are. They want everyone to bow and vote their brother by force and when you refuse they start to guilt trip you and call you all sorts of name slike nyamiri ,or ipob or Ibo

You spoke my mind.

The op is a Yoruba Muslim.
Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by Asgard73: 8:43am On Dec 11, 2022
AlexBells:

Britain did not hand over the country to the North it was Zik that struck the master stoke deal to have North with more seat so they can accept independence, the North said they were not ready, you talk about dredging the Niger up to the North, do you know about the cost, that would have to submerge 60% of Igboland since the Niger runs through AlaIgbo, you talk about South resources, stop feeling too important, the North has way more resources than the South, it is only sea access that is humbling the North. Think about solid minerals who compares with the North, don’t even think you have more hydrocarbon than the North.

Restructuring is not in the equation, you can argue for resources control like Wike is doing but restructuring back to regional/paliament NO, instead of that, let’s break up


You’re not informed ..

British handed over to North.. not zik. Zik is a politcian that believe in pan africanism..


the Niger River run from Senegal to Nigeria ..and not only igboland .. dredging it will go all the way up lokoja .. or River Benue .. in north with a sea port .

Why do igbo elders under the military pushing for dredging of the Niger ..

Why is the north pushing under IBb and after pushing for a highway from kastina to Libya ..

What’s the cost of dredging the Niger that politcians and military have not embezzled ..

How much is the resources in the north bringing to the table

Oga na north I Dey live .. na north my people dey .. I’ve been in Nigeria politics for over 3 decades .. you’re not talking to a kid ..

Na why your thread no Dey make sense ..

Biafra war .. was an oil war .. and oil controls Nigeria economy..
What are the resources in the north .. gold ? How much is it giving federal government .. agriculture? Can Nigeria develop with only agro..

You go just come online the yarn nonsense ..

How will dredging River Niger .. flood igboland ..

Una sense sef ..

Enjoy your ignorance ..

No be to Dey go events take pictures .. this is a faceless forum a.. na you make your face known and nobody cares ..

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Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by Asgard73: 8:45am On Dec 11, 2022
Kilometres:


Bursted

So all those your power to the north is out of cowardice....hiding under North but na ipob you be?

You can't fool everybody

Are you normal ?

We takin on Nigeria and you talking IPOB..

North is my home .. and I live and breath Arewa ..

Igboland is blood ..

Now get the fvck out my mention
Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by Nobody: 8:45am On Dec 11, 2022
@OP.

Over-intellectualising what is simple has always been your problem perhaps because you're obsessed with been perceived as intelligent more than you retain a genuine interest towards the search for the solutions to Nigeria's socio-economic problems.

The core essence of Yorubas zeal to secede or host regional governance has always been driven by grossly incompetent and detrimentally partisan rulership of the centre which has been the bane of Nigeria's development since independence.


Especially when Northerners, who have led us for longest, are in power
. For example, Shagari's win, over "the best President Nigeria never had" pivotally changed how Yorubas view Nigeria forever.

We saw a nation, as Awolowo put it, display to the world it is "merely a geographical expression" where even choosing the most meritoriously deserving leader, ahead of others by far , is a problem for Nigerians because of ethno-religious chauvinism and the clannish proclivities of most Nigerians even the consideration of personal and generational progress cannot temper.

All all all, and today, Yorubas have justifiably had enough of the ineptitude of other dooming us to failure and mediocrity because of our forced association with every deleterious facet of "one Nigeria".

Buhari is 'the last straw that broke the Camel's back' and I don't think the Presidency, however it goes, changes anything as Yorubas have now accepted, after exhaustive examples, that 'one Nigeria' progress is impossible. It is 'fools gold'.

I am surprised you still don't understand who/what the Yorubas are from even the current and very powerful example of how it is Yoruba APC leaders, who should ordinarily be Buhari's compatriots, fighting Mr.president most fundamentally and unrelentingly over many issues.

You see Akeredolu threatening the FG, led by Buhari, he will buy AK47 for Amotekun, since same allegedly was approved for a Katsina vigilante group, and you come here with your simplistic twaddle to shade Yorubas negatively
Another obsession of yours.

It is your data so type away. Even Northerners cannot claim to be ignorant of what moves a Yoruba and motivates his actions.

They know, despite the rhetorics of you Igbos, it is Yorubas who will organize to fight them viscerally and disruptively over issues of equity, justice and ethnocentric hijacking of the rulership of Nigeria as is happening today, with Yorubas alone acting purposefully and recording most success, while Igbos political leadership is completely inactive, insincere, duplicitous, cowardly and silent.

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Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by DeepThroater: 8:53am On Dec 11, 2022
AlexBells:
Of the three major tribes in Nigeria, Yorubas are the only one that want secession without being provoked



What utter trash !

Who provoked the Igbo to seccede?

Where there any legal or moral rights to Biafra ?

Even if there was a genuine reason for Igbos to want to leave Nigeria, why annex the already Igbo weary Niger Delta ?

If you had declared your Biafra within your Igbo territories, no one would have complained but for some reason you wanted to drag the Niger Delta as your territory .

Why then deflect to Yoruba ?

Last I checked , Yoruba nationalist movement was before independence and later with Sunday Igboho who had valid reasons for wanting Yoruba nation.

Senseless osu

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Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by JoeNL22(m): 8:54am On Dec 11, 2022
Hmmm
Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by Nobody: 8:57am On Dec 11, 2022
Asgard73:


Are you normal ?

We takin on Nigeria and you talking IPOB..

North is my home .. and I live and breath Arewa ..

Igboland is blood ..

Now get the fvck out my mention

That is and will always be your problem. Though I generally accept most of your point here as correct and pragmatically accurate observations of our reality most Nigerians are simply not realistic enough to accept.

That aside, let me ask you a simple question. Given the North has been given the most chance to lead Nigeria with many individuals from the region, with different leanings and ideas, do you believe a Northerner can ever lead Nigeria into modernity and greatness?

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Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by Asgard73: 9:07am On Dec 11, 2022
Dsalvo:


That is and will always be your problem. Though I generally accept most of your point here as correct and pragmatically accurate observations of our reality most Nigerians are simply not realistic enough to accept.

That aside, let me ask you a simple question. Given the North has been given the most chance to lead Nigeria with many individuals from the region, with different leanings and ideas, do you believe a Northerner can ever lead Nigeria into modernity and greatness?


Yes.. the north has the capacity to deliver Nigeria.. the major problem stoping that is religion.. to be honest.
That’s why Tinubu ticket must be rejected ..

Southern Nigeria is too divided and tribal to build a better Nigeria .. even if given all opportunities in the world.

The level of hate and bitterness Among south .. will take Nigeria off the map of Africa .

That’s the real and hard truth
Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by Nobody: 9:28am On Dec 11, 2022
DeepThroater:


What utter trash !

Who provoked the Igbo to seccede?

Where there any legal or moral rights to Biafra ?

Even if there was a genuine reason for Igbos to want to leave Nigeria, why annex the already Igbo weary Niger Delta ?

If you had declared your Biafra within your Igbo territories, no one would have complained but for some reason you wanted to drag the Niger Delta as your territory .

Why then deflect to Yoruba ?

Last I checked , Yoruba nationalist movement was before independence and later with Sunday Igboho who had valid reasons for wanting Yoruba nation.

Senseless osu


He is just an ethnocentric mischief-maker. Many things show all Nigerians and the world who they Yorubas are.

OP is simply the average Igbo who is obsessed with Yorubas because he feel inferior to him.

Watch Igbos. They are not hard to read. They are abominable megalomaniacs and empty egotists.

Psychologically, per their make-up and emotional fragility, it is Yorubas that Igbos cannot dominate or cower in any aspect of life they will remain obsessed with to then try to besmirch and gain superiority over with the pen when such is impossible for them to achieve in the real world.

This is why Igbos alone obsessively and copiously talk so much rubbish here daily against Yorubas and their leaders, like Tinubu, every single day on NL.

They have destroyed the 20 year future of Igboland, perhaps for even much longer, because of the claim they must rebel against Fulanis via spilling blood.

Ask yourself then why many Igbos are not vociferously critical of the ambition of Atiku yet remain personally obsessed with ensuring Tinubu fails. Many even saying they prefer Atiku if Obi cannot win. One has to wonders the manner of person an Igbo is.

Atiku will suffer a very bad showing in the SW because Yorubas are a normal, psychologically stable and progressive people who do things for the right reasons.

Buhari failed and exposed us to massive insecurity and socio-economic destruction in our own land. Such, for any sane person, anywhere in the world, cannot be rewarded by electing another Fulani who has shown himself to be of similar leaning to Buhari.

Atiku undemocratically and dictatorially fought the ban on open grazing when Yoruba state houses of assembly insisted on it. Yorubas need no Rocket Scientist to show us what to expect from Atiku. I.e "more of the same".

Yet aberrant, confused and hypocritical Igbos will sing and dance for Atiku to announce they prefer him to Tinubu while many are ensconced in Lagos and not Adamawa


I pity Igbos sha because many problems in life can be fought and conquered but a man and mind at war with himself/itself, as is the case with most Igbos, is literally fcked today, tomorrow and always.

Others, devoid of the 'issues' of Igbos (like the Yorubas) will always have the chance to get it right. Especially if they rid themselves of the problems beseting them because of administrative affiliation with others.

Yoruba leaders have also worked this out and that is why they alone, today in Nigeria, are vehemently demanding what is shown below.

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Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by AlexBells(m): 9:40am On Dec 11, 2022
DeepThroater:


What utter trash !

Who provoked the Igbo to seccede?

Where there any legal or moral rights to Biafra ?

Even if there was a genuine reason for Igbos to want to leave Nigeria, why annex the already Igbo weary Niger Delta ?

If you had declared your Biafra within your Igbo territories, no one would have complained but for some reason you wanted to drag the Niger Delta as your territory .

Why then deflect to Yoruba ?

Last I checked , Yoruba nationalist movement was before independence and later with Sunday Igboho who had valid reasons for wanting Yoruba nation.

Senseless osu

You are just being a hate filled irrelevant urchin, first of all I don’t believe in Biafra and there was never a time when the Igbo Nation secede from Nigeria, it was the Eastern region that seceded and I don’t know when that became about the Igbos, the East and every tribe there in seceded, as for morality of Biafra, there was every reason to secede back then
Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by AlexBells(m): 9:43am On Dec 11, 2022
Dsalvo:
@OP.

Over-intellectualising what is simple has always been your problem perhaps because you're obsessed with been perceived as intelligent more than you retain a genuine interest towards the search for the solutions to Nigeria's socio-economic problems.

The core essence of Yorubas zeal to secede or host regional governance has always been driven by grossly incompetent and detrimentally partisan rulership of the centre which has been the bane of Nigeria's development since independence.


Especially when Northerners, who have led us for longest, are in power
. For example, Shagari's win, over "the best President Nigeria never had" pivotally changed how Yorubas view Nigeria forever.

We saw a nation, as Awolowo put it, display to the world it is "merely a geographical expression" where even choosing the most meritoriously deserving leader, ahead of others by far , is a problem for Nigerians because of ethno-religious chauvinism and the clannish proclivities of most Nigerians even the consideration of personal and generational progress cannot temper.

All all all, and today, Yorubas have justifiably had enough of the ineptitude of other dooming us to failure and mediocrity because of our forced association with every deleterious facet of "one Nigeria".

Buhari is 'the last straw that broke the Camel's back' and I don't think the Presidency, however it goes, changes anything as Yorubas have now accepted, after exhaustive examples, that 'one Nigeria' progress is impossible. It is 'fools gold'.

I am surprised you still don't understand who/what the Yorubas are from even the current and very powerful example of how it is Yoruba APC leaders, who should ordinarily be Buhari's compatriots, fighting Mr.president most fundamentally and unrelentingly over many issues.

You see Akeredolu threatening the FG, led by Buhari, he will buy AK47 for Amotekun, since same allegedly was approved for a Katsina vigilante group, and you come here with your simplistic twaddle to shade Yorubas negatively
Another obsession of yours.

It is your data so type away. Even Northerners cannot claim to be ignorant of what moves a Yoruba and motivates his actions.

They know, despite the rhetorics of you Igbos, it is Yorubas who will organize to fight them viscerally and disruptively over issues of equity, justice and ethnocentric hijacking of the rulership of Nigeria as is happening today, with Yorubas alone acting purposefully and recording most success, while Igbos political leadership is completely inactive, insincere, duplicitous, cowardly and silent.
You are lying and you know that, Yorubas are serial secessionist, might I remind you that the current Nigerian house in London was built as an embassy of western Nigeria, where was the injustice then by as at independence, the thing with you is your penchant that if not you let’s pull them down, have you ever tried to debunk the allegation that put Awolowo behind bars?

If you want to leave, you are intelligent enough to seek that through the appropriate channel, stop undermining Nigeria, those of you like Obasanjo that genuinely want to stay are quite different, let give you guys the referendum
Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by Nobody: 10:08am On Dec 11, 2022
AlexBells:

You are lying and you know that, Yorubas are serial secessionist, might I remind you that the current Nigerian house in London was built as an embassy of western Nigeria, where was the injustice then by as at independence, the thing with you is your penchant that if not you let’s pull them down, have you ever tried to debunk the allegation that put Awolowo behind bars?

If you want to leave, you are intelligent enough to seek that through the appropriate channel, stop undermining Nigeria, those of you like Obasanjo that genuinely want to stay are quite different, let give you guys the referendum

Lol. Typical Igbo man. Literally a child in an adult body who prefers living in a world of fantasy and fable rather than facing reality.

Who is going to give Yorubas or anyone else referendum? How long have Igbos been demanding referendum? Bruv, you dey okay?

Some people have their worth, existentence and sustainance entirely tied to the existence of 'one Nigeria' and partisan hijacking of centrist political power yet a joker like you, probably living in a cave in Sudan, delusionally believe you will see a referendum. convened?

Rwanda or Lesotho has more chance of winning the world cup than Nigerians ever witnessing the Brexit-type referendum David Cameron convened.

This is why Yorubas always show they are a people of purpose and progress. Get behind what is shown below.

'One Nigeria' is done. let us stop the pretence. We hate each other and mainly only value our ethnic affiliations. Nigeria is an orphan no one loves or want.

Best we will remain, under 'one Nigeria', is a 'crab in a bucket' nation where no one can work and succeed commensurate to their potentials because others are waiting to drag you down to their level because they control power at the centre.

If you are smart and genuinely desirous of progress for your region and people you Igbos will join the agitation below till whoever is in charge of Nigeria has no choice but to grant it in deference to the will of the people through the voice of their elected leaders.

It is the best and most pragmatically viable way forward.

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Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by AlexBells(m): 10:09am On Dec 11, 2022
Asgard73:



You’re not informed ..

British handed over to North.. not zik. Zik is a politcian that believe in pan africanism..


the Niger River run from Senegal to Nigeria ..and not only igboland .. dredging it will go all the way up lokoja .. or River Benue .. in north with a sea port .

Why do igbo elders under the military pushing for dredging of the Niger ..

Why is the north pushing under IBb and after pushing for a highway from kastina to Libya ..

What’s the cost of dredging the Niger that politcians and military have not embezzled ..

How much is the resources in the north bringing to the table

Oga na north I Dey live .. na north my people dey .. I’ve been in Nigeria politics for over 3 decades .. you’re not talking to a kid ..

Na why your thread no Dey make sense ..

Biafra war .. was an oil war .. and oil controls Nigeria economy..
What are the resources in the north .. gold ? How much is it giving federal government .. agriculture? Can Nigeria develop with only agro..

You go just come online the yarn nonsense ..

How will dredging River Niger .. flood igboland ..

Una sense sef ..

Enjoy your ignorance ..

No be to Dey go events take pictures .. this is a faceless forum a.. na you make your face known and nobody cares ..
British handed over to which North, North was the last to gain independence, the East first, west then later North, within the time of arguing for independence, North made it clear they were not ready so East and West had to reach a compromise, it was after independence that the leaders of three region came together again and agreed to a republic, that was the first Republic, If the East wanted or the west wanted at independence they could have been separate
Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by AlexBells(m): 10:14am On Dec 11, 2022
Dsalvo:


Lol. Typical Igbo man. Literally a child in an adult body who prefers living in a world of fantasy and fable rather than facing reality.

Who is going to give Yorubas or anyone else referendum? How long have Igbos been demanding referendum? Bruv, you dey okay?

Some people have their worth, existentence and sustainance entirely tied to the existence of 'one Nigeria' and partisan hijacking of centrist political power yet a joker like you, probably living in a cave in Sudan, delusionally believe you will see a referendum. convened?

Rwanda or Lesotho has more chance of winning the world cup than Nigerians ever witnessing the Brexit-type referendum David Cameron convened.

This is why Yorubas always show they are a people of purpose and progress. Get behind what is shown below.

'One Nigeria' is done. let us stop the pretence. We hate each other and mainly only value our ethnic affiliations. Nigeria is an orphan no one loves or want.

Best we will remain, under 'one Nigeria', is a 'crab in a bucket' nation where no one can work and succeed commensurate to their potentials because others are waiting to drag you down to their level because they control power at the centre.

If you are smart and genuinely desirous of progress for your region and people you Igbos will join the agitation below till whoever is in charge of Nigeria has no choice but to grant it in deference to the will of the people through the voice of their elected leaders.

It is the best and most pragmatically viable way forward.
Igbos have never demanded referendum, you have never seen an Igbo governor or even councilor demands refebdum, Ipob and Biafran agitators have their right to demand referendum or pressure their representatives to do so but so far the constitutionally recognized representatives are not asking for referendum it is not the Norm, so for your information there has not been any appropriate request for Biafran referendum.

The Igbo Nation has at least 15 senators none of them has raised the Biafran referendum question in the senate floor, at least 5 governors none have moved for a referendum or requested such, however the west have been taking some official steps towards that direction, as for asking who we are to give you or support you to a referendum, we are NIGERIANS.

Talk about the hate in you and let others decide their fate, regional government is a capital NO, lets argue for who is leaving and who is staying, no one gives a Damn what the ideal should be to you, there are huge immunity on my side to your cheap emotional blackmail, if you hate others, hasten your exit through the right channel.
Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by Asgard73: 10:37am On Dec 11, 2022
AlexBells:

British handed over to which North, North was the last to gain independence, the East first, west then later North, within the time of arguing for independence, North made it clear they were not ready so East and West had to reach a compromise, it was after independence that the leaders of three region came together again and agreed to a republic, that was the first Republic, If the East wanted or the west wanted at independence they could have been separate
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Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by Nobody: 10:56am On Dec 11, 2022
AlexBells:

Igbos have never demanded referendum, you have never seen an Igbo governor or even councilor demands refebdum, Ipob and Biafran agitators have their right to demand referendum or pressure their representatives to do so but so far the constitutionally recognized representatives are not asking for referendum it is not the Norm, so for your information there has not been any appropriate request for Biafran referendum.

The Igbo Nation has at least 15 senators none of them has raised the Biafran referendum question in the senate floor, at least 5 governors none have moved for a referendum or requested such, however the west have been taking some official steps towards that direction, as for asking who we are to give you or support you to a referendum, we are NIGERIANS.

Talk about the hate in you and let others decide their fate, regional government is a capital NO, lets argue for who is leaving and who is staying, no one gives a Damn what the ideal should be to you, there are huge immunity on my side to your cheap emotional blackmail, if you hate others, hasten your exit through the right channel.

I give up on you. Whatever your age, you are the quintessential 'child in an adult body ' terminology used to describe impractical, childish, fantasists and emotionally unintelligent adults.

You will wait 2 million years for a Northern leader who will lead, or even passionately support, a sincere referendum process for Nigeria per secession issues.

I just don't get how you Igbos are so devoid of commonsense, pragmatic intelligence and the ability to think critically at even the most basic level.

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Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by AlexBells(m): 11:04am On Dec 11, 2022
Dsalvo:


I give up on you. Whatever your age, you are the quintessential 'child in an adult body ' terminology used to describe impractical, childish, fantasists and emotionally unintelligent adults.

You will wait 2 million years for a Northern leader who will lead, or even passionately support, a sincere referendum process for Nigeria per secession issues.

I just don't get how you Igbos are so devoid of commonsense, pragmatic intelligence and the ability to think critically at even the most basic level.

You elevates the North to this high status, who are the Northern leaders, I thought Zik rejected the Secessionist clause, did you hear that the North rejected the secessionist clause, was it not the Igbos that dismantled regional government, was the Igbos not the only one that ever fought the Federal Government in a full scale war, if you want drastic change in Nigeria, you should know what tribe that can pull it, nothing ever special about the North, all critical history of Nigeria has the Igbo doing the unthinkable, no wonder the North kill your leaders for fun becuase you think they hold the power to anything lol.

The North is nothing far from average when it comes to paradigm shift in Nigerian history, there is nothing attributed to them, just mention one landmark event in Nigerian history by the North, what about the Yorubas what is one remarkable event in Nigerian history attributed to you, lol, let me make it clear to you, if the core Igbos want Nigeria to break up, it would happen at any cost same as if some demons from AlaIgbo want a revert to regional government, you should know who is who in this country.

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Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by DeepThroater: 11:11am On Dec 11, 2022
AlexBells:

You are just being a hate filled irrelevant urchin, first of all I don’t believe in Biafra and there was never a time when the Igbo Nation secede from Nigeria, it was the Eastern region that seceded and I don’t know when that became about the Igbos, the East and every tribe there in seceded, as for morality of Biafra, there was every reason to secede back then

Eastern region ?

Deluded idiot.

Regional governance came to an end with Ironsi's Zikist Decree 34.

The creation of Old Rivers and Old Cross River by Gowon (the then HoS) ended the shitty Lugard created eastern region.

Who did you igbos consult in the minority region before dragging them from their newly created states into your rogue Igbo nation?

You are worse than the IPOB Zionist because you rationalize the madness of Ojukwu's annexation.

Show me a Zikist and I will show you a Biafran.

Its just political juggling between Biafra or Igbo dominated centrist govt which is why we can see how all you Biafrans are now Obidient and why your messiah refuses to condemn IPOB while trying to be the new Zik


You fool no one Okoro.

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Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by AlexBells(m): 11:17am On Dec 11, 2022
DeepThroater:


Eastern region ?

Deluded idiot.

Regional governance came to an end with Ironsi's Zikist Decree 34.

The creation of Old Rivers and Old Cross River by Gowon (the then HoS) ended the shitty Lugard created eastern region.

Who did you igbos consult in the minority region before dragging them from their newly created states into your rogue Igbo nation?

You are worse than the IPOB Zionist because you rationalize the madness of Ojukwu's annexation.

Show me a Zikist and I will show you a Biafran.

Its just political juggling between Biafra or Igbo dominated centrist govt which is why we can see how all you Biafrans are now Obidient and why your messiah refuses to condemn IPOB while trying to be the new Zik


You fool no one Okoro.
You know you make me happy with your Analysis, I don't believe in Biafra, I believe in AlaIgbo that's if Nigeria have to fail so why are you bringing things that I'm largely uninterested in, lol.

Yes, regional government was proudly dismantled becuase it was a sham, who builds a system without testing it lol, it was great that Biafra showed the resolve of the Igbo Nation and our capabilities yet Nigeria remains intact lol.

Whoever that want to test the reliability and strength of the unitary system, welcome to the big table. If Nigeria fails, we would argue for Igbo Republic or a Biafra of only Igbos and we shall wage mostly one campaign to establish our unification.

Now I say, if you want to stay in Nigeria, stay and respect yourselves and others otherwise make official case for your exit and not rebellion.
Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by AlexBells(m): 11:27am On Dec 11, 2022
DeepThroater:


Eastern region ?

Deluded idiot.

Regional governance came to an end with Ironsi's Zikist Decree 34.

The creation of Old Rivers and Old Cross River by Gowon (the then HoS) ended the shitty Lugard created eastern region.

Who did you igbos consult in the minority region before dragging them from their newly created states into your rogue Igbo nation?

You are worse than the IPOB Zionist because you rationalize the madness of Ojukwu's annexation.

Show me a Zikist and I will show you a Biafran.

Its just political juggling between Biafra or Igbo dominated centrist govt which is why we can see how all you Biafrans are now Obidient and why your messiah refuses to condemn IPOB while trying to be the new Zik


You fool no one Okoro.
One more thing, a Zikist is different from Biafran, a Zikist believes in a stronger center like we have today, a Zikist believes in the Federal Republic, a Zikist believe in the unitary system as we practise today as opposed to regional/parliament, a Zikist also shares similar orientation with the January 15 boys however understands that the job was very badly done or mostly out of timing, that's the benefit of coming later. A Zikist believes in a central law as being superior to state/regional laws, a Zikist believes in a single federal service system, a Zikist believes that state autonomy is important and should be improved as soon as possible and not with immediate effect. A Zikist believes that once states show enough maturity, state policing should be great step however whatever state policing apparatus the states would have for now should be monitored by a central unit. Those are major differences.

As for the possibility of Nigeria dividing, a Zikist is ready for any eventuality and thats why Biafra and AlaIgbo Republic remains an option however for now, I'm in drive for a higher self determination of every people.
Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by DeepThroater: 11:44am On Dec 11, 2022
AlexBells:

One more thing, a Zikist is different from Biafran, a Zikist believes in a stronger center like we have today, a Zikist believes in the Federal Republic, a Zikist believe in the unitary system as we practise today as opposed to regional/parliament, a Zikist also shares similar orientation with the January 15 boys however understands that the job was very badly done or mostly out of timing, that's the benefit of coming later. A Zikist believes in a central law as being superior to state/regional laws, a Zikist believes in a single federal service system, a Zikist believes that state autonomy is important and should be improved as soon as possible and not with immediate effect. A Zikist believes that once states show enough maturity, state policing should be great step however whatever state policing apparatus the states would have for now should be monitored by a central unit. Those are major differences.

As for the possibility of Nigeria dividing, a Zikist is ready for any eventuality and thats why Biafra and AlaIgbo Republic remains an option however for now, I'm in drive for a higher self determination of every people.

You are a bloody Marxist idiot.

You even tried to rationalize the madness of the Jan 15 coupist .

I am glad you understood that this Zikist foolishness was only possible through a bloody coup and by fiat decree.

Why did your bastard Zik not sell his Afro Marxism to the other regional leaders ?

Why must it have been only through a violent bloody means and an Igbo dictatorship ?

Do you see why nobody likes you bastatds and why I keep saying that you idiots are all prone to all the brands of Zionism - Socialism, Communism and Marxism ?

You are the bane of out problems.

Your arrogance that you alone van decide for others and you alone can rule in a powerful centrist dictatorship is what got us here.

Hold your heading in shame .

All your rubbish was and will always be for your greedy covetous nature of other peoples wealth and land. This is what Marxism entails - a heist of the peoples wealth to be cornered by a greedy political ruling class.

Nigeria is failing today because of your Zikist rubbish.

You complain only because the Fulani refused to share the spoils with you.

What you did in the old eastern region is what you intended to do at the centre.

By God, a day will come and I will have all you Igbo Marxist/Zionists dig your own graves and put a fcking rusted bullet on each of your heads.

FCK!
Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by Nobody: 11:50am On Dec 11, 2022
AlexBells:

You elevates the North to this high status, who are the Northern leaders, I thought Zik rejected the Secessionist clause, did you hear that the North rejected the secessionist clause, was it not the Igbos that dismantled regional government, was the Igbos not the only one that ever fought the Federal Government in a full scale war, if you want drastic change in Nigeria, you should know what tribe that can pull it, nothing ever special about the North, all critical history of Nigeria has the Igbo doing the unthinkable, no wonder the North kill your leaders for fun becuase you think they hold the power to anything lol.

The North is nothing far from average when it comes to paradigm shift in Nigerian history, there is nothing attributed to them, just mention one landmark event in Nigerian history by the North, what about the Yorubas what is one remarkable event in Nigerian history attributed to you, lol, let me make it clear to you, if the core Igbos want Nigeria to break up, it would happen at any cost same as if some demons from AlaIgbo want a revert to regional government, you should know who is who in this country.

Bro, you have issues. Is that not what you wrote below?

Federal government should look into Oduduwa referendum, let the Yorubas decide if they want to stay or leave

Who is the Federal Government right now other than Buhari and a core Fulani cabal full of feudalists dedicated entirely to the elevation and dominance of their ethnic group?

It is Buhari who said "those demanding restructuring are dangerous" who will then, as leader of the executive arm of the FG, convene a referendum for the Yorubas?

You as an Igbo should not even be talking because your leaders, according to Bianca Ojukwu, are "men who are not like men".

What can your executive and elected political leaders contribute to the demand for a referendum process when they hid their faces while Yoruba leaders used their State houses of assembly, as a Nigerian precedence, to deliver Amotekun and ban open grazing?

Are you capable of doing reality at all? We are under a feudal Fulani Federal government getting away with impunity because your cowardly Igbo leaders always run to hide and/or remain silent to leave Yoruba leaders alone leading the effort to challenge the overt effort of the North to turn the entire South into an extension of her caliphate.

You show no shame when Malami, after Yoruba leaders banned open grazing in the SW, shot back, in an ethnic slur against Igbos, that ban on open grazing is tantamount to a ban against Igbos selling spare parts across Nigeria.

You same Igbos are the Southerners propping up Atiku the most despite the fact he vehemently opposed the ban on open you say you do not want in your land while Tinubu backed the ban by announcing "open grazing no longer tenable in Nigeria".

Please indulge me with more of your shameless childishness and anti-Yoruba bigotry by telling me precisely who will grant the SW the referendum you want for us.

Name the names. Let me give you a clue by reminding you that executive and Legislative assent is needed.

From there, look at those who control the executive and legislative arm of Nigeria today, and may continue to do so through Atiku, before coming here with your thoughtless garbage you think masks your crude hatred and envy of the Yorubas.

Explain your delusion by showing us those in the executive and legislative arm (minus Yorubas alone) ready to initiate what you are demanding

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Re: The Dangers Of 2023; Potential Exploitation of Yorubas As Serial Secessionists by Tinubuadvocate: 11:56am On Dec 11, 2022
There is no iota of sense in his write up the same hate they have been spitting since they were born.
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