37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[c] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[d] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Na Jesus talk

Abi1985:
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[c] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[d] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Na Jesus talk

Those two greatest commandments were given by God as part of His Old Law of Moses as part of the National Constitution which He gave to the people of Israel in the Land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 & Deuteronomy 6 vs 4 & Leviticus 19 vs 18. - which is what Jesus Christ also made clear to you there in verse 40. Those commandments were given through Moses to the children of Israel and not by Jesus Christ to His followers.

Abi1985:
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[c] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[d] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Na Jesus talk

You just made me notice something I have been seeing. Before Moses received the Commandment and statutes, there was a first one, can you find it?

Kobojunkie:
Those two greatest commandments were given by God as part of His Old Law of Moses as part of the National Constitution which He gave to the people of Israel in the Land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 & Deuteronomy 6 vs 4 & Leviticus 19 vs 18. - which is what Jesus Christ also made clear to you there in verse 40. Those commandments were given through Moses to the children of Israel and not by Jesus Christ to His followers.

Just obey , that is the message

Abi1985:


Just obey , that is the message

Just ignore him. He likes over Sabi who always have opinion

Abi1985:
Just obey , that is the message

Message by whom?

Kobojunkie:
Message by whom?

So what is more important than loving God and loving your neighbor? I just dey wonder, the whole gospel is based on these two commandment. If you do not get it, then you cannot get it.

Abi1985:

So what is more important than loving God and loving your neighbor? I just dey wonder, the whole gospel is based on these two commandment. If you do not get it, then you cannot get it.

The whole Gospel is based on these two commandments? Where did you get that silly idea from?

Kobojunkie:
The whole Gospel is based on these two commandments? Where did you get that silly idea from?

The bible , are you surprised bro? You overanalysis simple and you form your conclusion. If you cannot love God then you cannot love neighbor or keep his commandments, then you are missing the main koko of Christiainity. How can one trust God that do not love r? The parable of the good Samaritan? Why do you think Jesus Christ was offended by the Pharisees , Scribes and hypocrite? It is because they only thought of themselves only and no one else . Yes it was given as commandment to Moses yet born again know this, a gospel without love is a gospel of nonsense.
To love God is to keep his commandments and it is there in new testament. Just because Jesus is the culmination of the law, does not exempt Christians from obeying his commands.

Abi1985:
1. The bible , are you surprised bro?

2. You overanalysis simple and you form your conclusion. If you cannot love God then you cannot love neighbor or keep his commandments, then you are missing the main koko of Christiainity.

3. How can one trust God that do not love r? The parable of the good Samaritan? Why do you think Jesus Christ was offended by the Pharisees , Scribes and hypocrite? It is because they only thought of themselves only and no one else . Yes it was given as commandment to Moses yet born again know this, a gospel without love is a gospel of nonsense.

4. To love God is to keep his commandments and it is there in new testament. Just because Jesus is the culmination of the law, does not exempt Christians from obeying his commands.

1. Where exactly in scripture is this claim of yours to be found?

2. I am afraid you have the wrong person there. Jesus Christ said that those who belong to Him are those who obey His commandments. The two greatest commandments, as Jesus Christ explained to you belong to God's Old Covenant Law of Moses which was given to the people of Israel as part of the Constitution of the Nation of Israel, meaning Jesus Christ would have been a liar if He had claimed those two commandments were given by His person.

As Jesus Christ instead explained to you in the context where He mentioned those two commandments, He said they were the fulfillment of the Old Law of Moses for those whom He came to call, meaning that if you are to follow Jesus Christ, you are to do them in fulfillment of the Old Law. But Jesus Christ, came to give His followers a new Law, so how can you claim that fulfilling the Old Law amounts to fulfilling the New Law, and agreement of Peace God promised His people through Jesus Christ?

3. See confusion abeg!

4. To love God is to keep His commandments. Interesting claim!

So, never mind that God gave the people a total of 613 commandments as part of His Old Covenant then, what you are insinuating is that by only obeying the two greatest commandments of the Old Law of Moses, the Israelites were made righteous by God? Why then did Jesus Christ place a curse on anyone who would choose to follow only some of His commandments while neglecting the others?

Kobojunkie:
1. Where exactly in scripture is this claim of yours to be found?

2. I am afraid you have the wrong person there. Jesus Christ said that those who belong to Him are those who obey His commandments. The two greatest commandments, as Jesus Christ explained to you belong to God's Old Covenant Law of Moses which was given to the people of Israel as part of the Constitution of the Nation of Israel, meaning Jesus Christ would have been a liar if He had claimed those two commandments were given by His person.

As Jesus Christ instead explained to you in the context where He mentioned those two commandments, He said they were the fulfillment of the Old Law of Moses for those whom He came to call, meaning that if you are to follow Jesus Christ, you are to do them in fulfillment of the Old Law. But Jesus Christ, came to give His followers a new Law, so how can you claim that fulfilling the Old Law amounts to fulfilling the New Law, and agreement of Peace God promised His people through Jesus Christ?

3. See confusion abeg!

4. To love God is to keep His commandments. Interesting claim!

So, never mind that God gave the people a total of 613 commandments as part of His Old Covenant then, what you are insinuating is that by only obeying the two greatest commandments of the Old Law of Moses, the Israelites were made righteous by God? Why then did Jesus Christ place a curse on anyone who would choose to follow only some of His commandments while neglecting the others?

Still overanalysis as usual, argue with Bible. Yes to love Jesus is to keep his commandments yes it is the new testament not made up or conjure up. No one is talking about curse or curses in the first place - another overanalysis
no one is saying to neglect some and obey this - another overanalysis.
Or the 613 commandments given to Isrealite by God through Moses- another overanalysis. Or the famous 10 commandments.

Abi1985:
Still overanalysis as usual, argue with Bible lol

What is stated in scripture is clear. What is confusing here is you.

Jesus says: “If you love Me, keep My commandments … He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me … If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.” John 14:15-24.

Kobojunkie:
What is stated in scripture is clear. What is confusing here is you.

Jesus says: “If you love Me, keep My commandments … He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me … If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.” John 14:15-24.

Abi1985:

Jesus says: “If you love Me, keep My commandments … He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me … If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.” John 14:15-24.

■ Jesus Christ gave His followers almost 100 commandments which are contained right there in the Gospel which happens to be God's New Covenant agreement and Law. That is the Law He gave to His followers insisting that they show they love Him by obeying His commandments.

■ Since the beginning of this conversation, however, you have continued to reference 2 laws out of a total of about 613 laws that make up God's Old Law of Moses, the Old Covenant. I pointed this out to you explaining that those commandments were given by God and not by Jesus Christ Himself.

So, you can see that scripture isn't the problem here as the confusion stems from you in this.

Kobojunkie:
■ Jesus Christ gave His followers almost 100 commandments which are contained right there in the Gospel which happens to be God's New Covenant agreement and Law. That is the Law He gave to His followers insisting that they show they love Him by obeying His commandments.

■ Since the beginning of this conversation, however, you have continued to reference 2 laws out of a total of about 613 laws that make up God's Old Law of Moses, the Old Covenant. I pointed this out to you explaining that those commandments were given by God and not by Jesus Christ Himself.

So, you can see that scripture isn't the problem here as the confusion stems from you in this.

https://www.antipas.org/books/epitome_comm.html - 100 commandments given by Jesus Christ still boil down to 2. Not confused but have a clear and sound mind. It is practically impossible to even obey 100 commandments of Jesus Christ if you do not love your neighbor and you do not love God. Anyway we can agree to disagree or disagree to disagree.

Abi1985:
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[c] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[d] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Na Jesus talk

His true disciples (Jehovah's Witnesses) are keeping it!

Abi1985:
1. - 100 commandments given by Jesus Christ still boil down to

2. Not confused but have a clear and sound mind. It is practically impossible to even obey 100 commandments of Jesus Christ if you do not love your neighbor and you do not love God.

3. Anyway we can agree to disagree or disagree to disagree.

1. We see in the Gospels where Jesus Christ expressly indicates that the two greatest commandments resolve for His followers the Old Law and the Prophets. So can you show by way of scriptural reference where Jesus Christ also proclaimed that the Gospel and the Kingdom of God which He taught to His followers can be resolved down to 2 commandments?

2. Only some comments ago you didn't even seem aware that the New Covenant existed. Now you pretend you have always known?

According to you, it is practically impossible to obey 100 commandments given to you by God,yet, you have probably never been arrested in your adult life since you endeavor daily to obey the Constitution of Nigeria which contains over 1000 laws and by-laws in it. What you are saying is that the 100 commandments given by God, laws which cover much of your human laws, are not worth your time and effort as you are too busy obeying your human laws instead.

3. Oh sure, you and I can agree to disagree but the confusion that is you has no origins in scripture.

Kobojunkie:
1. We see in the Gospels where Jesus Christ expressly indicates that the two greatest commandments resolve for His followers the Old Law and the Prophets. So can you show by way of scriptural reference where Jesus Christ also proclaimed that the Gospel and the Kingdom of God which He taught to His followers can be resolved down to 2 commandments?

2. Only some comments ago you didn't even seem aware that the New Covenant existed. Now you pretend you have always known?

According to you, it is practically impossible to obey 100 commandments given to you by God,yet, you have probably never been arrested in your adult life since you endeavor daily to obey the Constitution of Nigeria which contains over 1000 laws and by-laws in it. What you are saying is that the 100 commandments given by God, laws which cover much of your human laws, are not worth your time and effort as you are too busy obeying your human laws instead.

3. Oh sure, you and I can agree to disagree but the confusion that is you has no origins in scripture.

1. do not assume that i never knew about the new convenent
2. Read and understand what i wrote earlier. Why is It so hard to comprehend?
3. No one is even talking about 1000 laws of Nigeria constitution or human laws or what is not worth my time and effort as if i am too busy obeying human laws.
4. How does being arrested relate to what i wrote earlier? I do not get your logic when i am not a kidnapper

Abi1985:
1. do not assume that i never knew about the new convenent
2. Read and understand what i wrote earlier. Why is It so hard to comprehend?
3. No one is even talking about 1000 laws of Nigeria constitution or human laws or what is not worth my time and effort as if i am too busy obeying human laws.
4. How does being arrested relate to what i wrote earlier? I do not get your logic when i am not a kidnapper

1. You knew but were instead focused on preaching commandments that are instead of the Old Covenant which God expressly stated belongs only to those who are of the blood of Jacob and living in the land of Canaan?

2. Comprehend claims that reek of confusion?

3. But if you have never committed sin against the Nigerian Constitution it means you do your best to obey the Law. However, you consider the almost 100 laws given by God whose word you claim to accept and trust insurmountable hence why you probably break it regularly. Means God, and His Law, is not of much worth to you. It is pretty much that cut and dry because as Jesus Christ said, and you stated earlier, those who love Him obey His commandments.

4. Sin is disobedience of God's commandments pretty much in similar way that crime is breaking of the Law of the land. Even though God commands that you be perfect even as your Father in Heaven is perfect, you clearly think it impossible to achieve hence you have excuses to make for sins you commit against God. However, since you avoid committing crimes against the law or are at least careful enough not to get caught in anything incriminating, it means you hold the Constitution of the land to standards higher than you do God's own Law to you.

Kobojunkie:
1. You knew but were instead focused on preaching commandments that are instead of the Old Covenant which God expressly stated belongs only to those who are of the blood of Jacob and living in the land of Canaan?

2. Comprehend claims that reek of confusion?

3. But if you have never committed sin against the Nigerian Constitution it means you do your best to obey the Law. However, you consider the almost 100 laws given by God whose word you claim to accept and trust insurmountable hence why you probably break it regularly. Means God, and His Law, is not of much worth to you. It is pretty much that cut and dry because as Jesus Christ said, and you stated earlier, those who love Him obey His commandments.

4. Sin is disobedience of God's commandments pretty much in similar way that crime is breaking of the Law of the land. Even though God commands that you be perfect even as your Father in Heaven is perfect, you clearly think it impossible to achieve hence you have excuses to make for sins you commit against God. However, since you avoid committing crimes against the law or are at least careful enough not to get caught in anything incriminating, it means you hold the Constitution of the land to standards higher than you do God's own Law to you.

1. You do not understand a simple sentence. No one is even talking about disobeying or making excuse to sin. To love God is to keep his commands - a simple sentence which does not require a lot of write up or explanation

2. No one is talking about being arrested even innocent folk get arrested.

Abi1985:
1. You do not understand a simple sentence. No one is even talking about disobeying or making excuse to sin. To love God is to keep his commands - a simple sentence which does not require a lot of write up or explanation

2. No one is talking about being arrested even innocent folk get arrested.

1. Try to keep up with your own confusing claims abeg!

Abi1985:
100 commandments given by Jesus Christ still boil down to 2. Not confused but have a clear and sound mind. It is practically impossible to even obey 100 commandments of Jesus Christ if you do not love your neighbor and you do not love God. Anyway we can agree to disagree or disagree to disagree.

Jesus Christ never gave the commandment "love your neighbor as you love yourself" to His followers — that law is instead declared as part of God's Old Covenant. So insisting that it is impossible to obey the 100 commandments given by Jesus in His Gospel without obeying the Old Laws means you don't obey Jesus Christ. In His Gospel, Jesus Christ also warned of destructive consequences resulting from attempts to mix Old Wine(laws from the Old Law), and New Wine(laws of the Gospel) together. So, by refusing to heed his warning, and focusing on the Old laws, you sin against Jesus Christ in your ignorance, or is it arrogance?

2. LOL...

Kobojunkie:
1. Try to keep up with your own confusing claims abeg! Jesus Christ never gave the commandment "love your neighbor as you love yourself" to His followers — that law is instead declared as part of God's Old Covenant. So insisting that it is impossible to obey the 100 commandments given by Jesus in His Gospel without obeying the Old Laws means you don't obey Jesus Christ. In His Gospel, Jesus Christ also warned of destructive consequences resulting from attempts to mix Old Wine(laws from the Old Law), and New Wine(laws of the Gospel) together. So, by refusing to heed his warning, and focusing on the Old laws, you sin against Jesus Christ in your ignorance, or is it arrogance?

2. LOL...

lol , If you cannot understand simple sentence,. Then I wonder how you can comprehend the bible. Two commandments that was written in Book of Mark and He later told the Scribe that he is not far from kingdom of God.

Abi1985:
lol , If you cannot understand simple sentence,. Then I wonder why how you can comprehend the bible. Two commandments that was written in Book of Mark

2. and he later told the Scribe that he is not far from kingdom of God.

Again, the confusion here is not scripture but from your person.

Here is what Jesus Christ said in the passage found in the book of Mark.

28 One of the teachers of the law came to Jesus. He heard Jesus arguing with the Sadducees and the Pharisees. He saw that Jesus gave good answers to their questions. So he asked him, “Which of the commands is the most important?”
29 Jesus answered, “The most important command is this: ‘People of Israel, listen! The Lord our God is the only Lord.
30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, all your mind, and all your strength.’[d]
31 The second most important command is this: ‘Love your neighbor[e] the same as you love yourself.’[f] These two commands are the most important.”
32 The man answered, “That was a good answer, Teacher. You are right in saying that God is the only Lord and that there is no other God.
33 And you must love God with all your heart, all your mind, and all your strength. And you must love others the same as you love yourself. These commands are more important than all the animals and sacrifices we offer to God.” - Mark 12 vs 28 - 33

In the Kingdom of God, we do not offer animals and sacrifices to God, meaning the context of the claim Jesus Christ made in the passage above — as I have continually pointed out from the beginning of this here discourse — is not the Kingdom of God but the Old Covenant where those very commandments are found written.
When you consider the record of the same as presented in Matthew's account, you will find the same is indicated by Jesus Christ.

34 The Pharisees learned that Jesus had made the Sadducees look so foolish that they stopped trying to argue with him. So the Pharisees had a meeting.
35 Then one of them, an expert in the Law of Moses, asked Jesus a question to test him.
36 He said, “Teacher, which command in the law is the most important?”

37 Jesus answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.’[c]
38 This is the first and most important command.
39 And the second command is like the first: ‘Love your neighbor[d] the same as you love yourself.’
40 All of the law and the writings of the prophets take their meaning from these two commands.” - Matthew 22 vs 34 - 40

Clearly, both passages make clear the fact that those two laws pertaining to the fulfillment of the Old Covenant and Law of Moses, not the New Covenant and Gospel of the Kingdom of God. What this clearly means is that your statement that it is impossible to obey the New Covenant Law of God, Jesus Christ, without obeying these two Old commandments, at the same time, is not true.

2. That Jesus Christ pointed out after this that man was close to the Kingdom of God does not in any way mean the scribe has become born-again —i.e. gained entry into the Kingdom of God— as a result of knowing the two commandments indicated of the Old Covenant. As Jesus Christ made clear in His teachings in John 3 vs 1 - 21 the only way to enter into the Kingdom of God is to become born-again.

Kobojunkie:
Those two greatest commandments were given by God as part of His Old Law of Moses as part of the National Constitution which He gave to the people of Israel in the Land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 & Deuteronomy 6 vs 4 & Leviticus 19 vs 18. - which is what Jesus Christ also made clear to you there in verse 40. Those commandments were given through Moses to the children of Israel and not by Jesus Christ to His followers.

Did Moses tell them which of the Comandments is the greatest or greater?

Truvelisback:
Did Moses tell them which of the Comandments is the greatest or greater?

The Prophets before Jesus Christ had already helped them to begin to see this. For instance, in Ezekiel 18 vs 1 - 32 & Ezekiel 33 vs 9 - 20 it is revealed that in order to obtain Eternal life, one had to do good to others, following God's command to love others. Hence the reason they came confidently believing they could stump Jesus Christ with their questions regarding them. Think about what they did.

Kobojunkie:
The Prophets before Jesus Christ had already helped them to begin to see this. For instance, in Ezekiel 18 vs 1 - 32 & Ezekiel 33 vs 9 - 20 it is revealed that in order to obtain Eternal life, one had to do good to others, following God's command to love others. Hence the reason they came confidently believing they could stump Jesus Christ with their questions regarding them. Think about what they did.

I asked a simple question that requires a "Yes or No". Did Moses tell them which commandment was the greater and the greatest?

Kobojunkie:
Again, the confusion here is not scripture but from your person.

Here is what Jesus Christ said in the passage found in the book of Mark.
In the Kingdom of God, we do not offer animals and sacrifices to God, meaning the context of the claim Jesus Christ made in the passage above — as I have continually pointed out from the beginning of this here discourse — is not the Kingdom of God but the Old Covenant where those very commandments are found written.
When you consider the record of the same as presented in Matthew's account, you will find the same is indicated by Jesus Christ.
Clearly, both passages make clear the fact that those two laws pertaining to the fulfillment of the Old Covenant and Law of Moses, not the New Covenant and Gospel of the Kingdom of God. What this clearly means is that your statement that it is impossible to obey the New Covenant Law of God, Jesus Christ, without obeying these two Old commandments, at the same time, is not true.

2. That Jesus Christ pointed out after this that man was close to the Kingdom of God does not in any way mean the scribe has become born-again —i.e. gained entry into the Kingdom of God— as a result of knowing the two commandments indicated of the Old Covenant. As Jesus Christ made clear in His teachings in John 3 vs 1 - 21 the only way to enter into the Kingdom of God is to become born-again.

Agreed
Then why did Jesus tell one of his discipline that in John 14:15


15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Abi1985:

Agreed
Then why did Jesus tell one of his discipline that in John 14:15
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Jesus Christ is God's New Covenant Law, the agreement of peace God promised to make with the house of Israel from as far back as the time of Moses. He is God's Law and Truth in the Kingdom of God, which you call the Gospel, and the law comes complete with about 100 commandments, in addition to teachings that God expects for all of those who belong to Him to obey. Hence the reason why Jesus Christ made clear that those who love Him are those who will obey His teachings and commandments. His friends .i.e. friends of God are those who do as He says - John 15 vs 14.