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Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by MindHacker9009(m): 7:35pm On Mar 07, 2023
Jesus Ben Ananias. Beginning in 62AD, this Jesus had caused disquiet in Jerusalem with a non-stop doom-laden mantra of ‘Woe to the city’. He prophesied rather vaguely:

"A voice from the east, a voice from the west, a voice from the four winds, a voice against Jerusalem and the holy house, a voice against the bridegrooms and the brides, and a voice against the whole people."

– Josephus, Wars 6.3.

Arrested and flogged by the Romans, Jesus ben Ananias was released as nothing more dangerous than a mad man. He died during the siege of Jerusalem from a rock hurled by a Roman catapult.

Jesus ben Saphat. In the insurrection of 68AD that wrought havoc in Galilee, this Jesus had led the rebels in Tiberias ("the leader of a seditious tumult of mariners and poor people" – Josephus, Life 12.66). When the city was about to fall to Vespasian’s legionaries he fled north to Tarichea on the Sea of Galilee.

Jesus ben Gamala. During 68/69 AD this Jesus was a leader of the ‘peace party’ in the civil war wrecking Judaea. From the walls of Jerusalem he had remonstrated with the besieging Idumeans (led by ‘James and John, sons of Susa’). It did him no good. When the Idumeans breached the walls he was put to death and his body thrown to the dogs and carrion birds.

Jesus ben Thebuth. A priest who, in the final capitulation of the upper city in 69AD, saved his own skin by surrendering the treasures of the Temple, which included two holy candlesticks, goblets of pure gold, sacred curtains and robes of the high priests. The booty figured prominently in the Triumph held for Vespasian and his son Titus.

But was there a crucified Jesus?

Certainly. Jesus ben Stada was a Judean agitator who gave the Romans a headache in the early years of the second century. He met his end in the town of Lydda (twenty five miles from Jerusalem) at the hands of a Roman crucifixion crew. And given the scale that Roman retribution could reach – at the height of the siege of Jerusalem the Romans were crucifying upwards of five hundred captives a day before the city walls – dead heroes called Jesus would (quite literally) have been thick on the ground. Not one merits a full-stop in the great universal history.

But then with so many Jesuses could there not have been a Jesus of Nazareth?

The problem for this notion is that absolutely nothing at all corroborates the sacred biography and yet this 'greatest story' is peppered with numerous anachronisms, contradictions and absurdities. For example, at the time that Joseph and the pregnant Mary are said to have gone off to Bethlehem for a supposed Roman census, Galilee (unlike Judaea) was not a Roman province and therefore ma and pa would have had no reason to make the journey. Even if Galilee had been imperial territory, history knows of no ‘universal census’ ordered by Augustus (nor any other emperor) – and Roman taxes were based on property ownership not on a head count. Then again, we now know that Nazareth did not exist before the second century.
Nazareth –
The Town that Theology Built

It is mentioned not at all in the Old Testament nor by Josephus, who waged war across the length and breadth of Galilee (a territory about the size of Greater London) and yet Josephus records the names of dozens of other towns. In fact most of the ‘Jesus-action’ takes place in towns of equally doubtful provenance, in hamlets so small only partisan Christians know of their existence (yet well attested pagan cities, with extant ruins, failed to make the Jesus itinerary).

What should alert us to wholesale fakery here is that practically all the events of Jesus’s supposed life appear in the lives of mythical figures of far more ancient origin. Whether we speak of miraculous birth, prodigious youth, miracles or wondrous healings – all such 'signs' had been ascribed to other gods, centuries before any Jewish holy man strolled about. Jesus’s supposed utterances and wisdom statements are equally common place, being variously drawn from Jewish scripture, neo-Platonic philosophy or commentaries made by Stoic and Cynic sages.
Source: https://www.jesusneverexisted.com/surfeit.htm
Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by Rexxie234(m): 7:54pm On Mar 07, 2023
I pray God forgives you
Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by OkCornel(m): 8:15pm On Mar 07, 2023
Jesus originally known as Yeshua, Yehushua, Joshua or Hosea was a common name in Israel back in the days.

To narrow down the search, ask for which Jesus had James (Y’akoub) and Jude (Yehudah) as some of his younger siblings, and also had Mary (Maryam) and Joseph (Yosef) as his parents. Yup, same Jesus crucified by the Romans and buried in Arithmatea’s tomb which is a popular tourist destination in Israel today.


You can’t miss this “Jesus” out of the several others that lived back in the days.

Easy and simple.

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Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by Maynman: 9:53pm On Mar 07, 2023
OkCornel:
Jesus originally known as Yeshua, Yehushua, Joshua or Hosea was a common name in Israel back in the days.

To narrow down the search, ask for which Jesus had James (Y’akoub) and Jude (Yehudah) as some of his younger siblings, and also had Mary (Maryam) and Joseph (Yosef) as his parents. Yup, same Jesus crucified by the Romans and buried in Arithmatea’s tomb which is a popular tourist destination in Israel today.


You can’t miss this “Jesus” out of the several others that lived back in the days.

Easy and simple.

The correct name of any jesus in isreal would have been “isho”, and in arabic it’s “isa” as muslims call it.

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Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by OkCornel(m): 11:13pm On Mar 07, 2023
Maynman:


The correct name of any jesus in isreal would have been “isho”, and in arabic it’s “isa” as muslims call it.

Nice one. I’ve learnt something (isho) today.

Thanks for this.

Going by your explanation is isho Aramaic or Hebrew? Syriac wasn’t the predominant language in Israel hmmm?
Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by Maynman: 11:33pm On Mar 07, 2023
OkCornel:


Nice one. I’ve learnt something (isho) today.

Thanks for this.

Going by your explanation is isho Aramaic or Hebrew? Syriac wasn’t the predominant language in Israel hmmm?

It’s Aramaic, the language Iesus chrestus spoke.

And when was hebrew the predominant language in israel? During jesus time hmmmm?

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Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by OkCornel(m): 11:57pm On Mar 07, 2023
Maynman:


It’s Aramaic, the language Iesus chrestus spoke.

And when was hebrew the predominant language in israel? During jesus time hmmmm?

So how is Jesus spelt and pronounced in the Aramaic he spoke hmmm?

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by Maynman: 12:01am On Mar 08, 2023
OkCornel:


So how is Jesus spelt and pronounced in the Aramaic he spoke hmmm?

What you posted is the hebrew derivative.
It is isho, do you understand now, hmmm?

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by MindHacker9009(m): 1:22am On Mar 08, 2023
Rexxie234:
I pray God forgives you

I pray God makes you to realise that the Roman empire invented your messiah Jesus Christ

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Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by OkCornel(m): 7:38am On Mar 08, 2023
Maynman:


What you posted is the hebrew derivative.
It is isho, do you understand now, hmmm?

How is it isho? Was Syriac the dominant language in ancient Israel hmmm?

Remind me again, how’s Jesus spelt and pronounced in Hebrew and Aramaic?

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by Maynman: 7:41am On Mar 08, 2023
OkCornel:


How is it isho? Was Syriac the dominant language in ancient Israel hmmm?

Remind me again, how’s Jesus spelt and pronounced in Hebrew and Aramaic?

Did jesus live in ancient israel hmmm?

It’s spelt and pronounced isho, why you keep forgetting?

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by OkCornel(m): 7:45am On Mar 08, 2023
Maynman:


Did jesus live in ancient israel hmmm?

It’s spelt and pronounced isho, why you keep forgetting?

What was the main language spoken in ancient Israel?

A) Hebrew and Aramaic (Yeshua or Y’shua)

Or

B) Eastern Syriac (Isho)

You will entertain me today.

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by Maynman: 7:47am On Mar 08, 2023
OkCornel:


What was the main language spoken in ancient Israel?

A) Hebrew and Aramaic (Yeshua or Y’shua)

Or

B) Eastern Syriac (Isho)

You will entertain me today.
Lol, Aramaic is older than hebrew.
Is Aramaic and hebrew the same, so why will they pronounce it the same way?
“Hebrew and Aramaic” bwahahahah

You’ll enjoy me today.

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by OkCornel(m): 7:55am On Mar 08, 2023
Maynman:

Lol, Aramaic is older than hebrew.
Is Aramaic and hebrew the same, so why will they pronounce it the same way?

You’ll enjoy me today.

Read this article and show me where SYRIAC Aramaic was widely spoken in ancient Israel.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Aramaic-language

In Judeo-Aramaic, Jesus is spelt and pronounced as Yeshua or Y’shua. Not Isho (Eastern Syriac variant of Aramaic)

I’m patiently waiting for evidence that Eastern Syriac variant of Aramaic was widely spoken in Israel.

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by OkCornel(m): 7:58am On Mar 08, 2023
Now let’s check how Jesus was spelt and pronounced in Judeo-Aramaic (variant of West Aramaic) hmmm?
Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by Maynman: 7:59am On Mar 08, 2023
OkCornel:


Read this article and show me where SYRIAC Aramaic was widely spoken in ancient Israel.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Aramaic-language

In Judeo-Aramaic, Jesus is spelt and pronounced as Yeshua or Y’shua. Not Isho (Eastern Syriac variant of Aramaic)

I’m patiently waiting for evidence that Eastern Syriac variant of Aramaic was widely spoken in Israel.


Nobody said syraic aramaic was spoken in ancient israel. And surely “hebrew” was also not spoken in ancient israel.

There’s no where in judeo aramaic that jesus is spelt as Yeshua, as yeshua is purely hebrew.

Eastern syriac aramaic was widely spoken during jesus time.

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Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by Maynman: 8:00am On Mar 08, 2023
OkCornel:
Now let’s check how Jesus was spelt and pronounced in Judeo-Aramaic (variant of West Aramaic) hmmm?

Please let’s check it hmmm

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by OkCornel(m): 8:08am On Mar 08, 2023
Maynman:


Nobody said syraic aramaic was spoken in ancient israel. And surely “hebrew” was also not spoken in ancient israel.

There’s no where in judeo aramaic that jesus is spelt as Yeshua, as yeshua is purely hebrew.

Eastern syriac aramaic was widely spoken during jesus time.

Oooh La La La … see how Jesus was spelt in Western Syriac (Judeo-Aramaic widely spoken in ancient Israel)

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by OkCornel(m): 8:11am On Mar 08, 2023
Maynman:


Please let’s check it hmmm

Nope, search for the Western Syriac version to be precise. Judeo-Aramaic was the version widely spoken in ancient Israel. Hmmm?

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by Maynman: 8:12am On Mar 08, 2023
OkCornel:


Oooh La La La … see how Jesus was spelt in Western Syriac (Judeo-Aramaic widely spoken in ancient Israel)

Judeo aramaic was never widely spoken in ancient israel.
Galilee was not in western syriac.

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by OkCornel(m): 8:13am On Mar 08, 2023
Maynman:


Judeo aramaic was never widely spoken in ancient israel.
Galilee was not in western syriac.

Lol, “Judeo”-Aramaic was never widely spoken in ancient Israel? This joke is more entertaining than I thought!
Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by Maynman: 8:14am On Mar 08, 2023
OkCornel:


Nope, search for the Western Syriac version to be precise. Judeo-Aramaic was the version widely spoken in ancient Israel. Hmmm?

Galilee was not in western syriac.
Judeo aramaic was never widely spoken in ancient isreael, what century was it form, hmmm?

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by Maynman: 8:14am On Mar 08, 2023
OkCornel:


Lol, “Judeo”-Aramaic was never widely spoken in ancient Israel? This joke is more entertaining than I thought!

When was judeo aramaic formed?
What do you refer to as “ancient israel”?
You must be kidding. This is wild hilarious, “judeo aramaic” bwahahahah

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by OkCornel(m): 9:17am On Mar 08, 2023
Maynman:


Judeo aramaic was never widely spoken in ancient israel.
Galilee was not in western syriac.

Please tell us the difference between “JUDEO” Aramaic and “JEWISH” Palestine Aramaic.

They’re the same thing. If you don’t realise this, the joke’s on you.

You don’t know Jewish and Judeo means one and same thing in this context? Lmao.

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by Maynman: 9:21am On Mar 08, 2023
OkCornel:


Please tell us the difference between “JUDEO” Aramaic and “JEWISH” Palestine Aramaic.

They’re the same thing. If you don’t realise this, the joke’s on you.

You don’t know Jewish and Judeo means one and same thing in this context? Lmao.
First explain what JUDEO Aramaic means.
And show me references where they are the same.
The jokes is on you, seems the PALESTINE flew over your head.

In aramaic there’s nothing like yeshua, yeshu.

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by OkCornel(m): 9:25am On Mar 08, 2023
Maynman:

First explain what JUDEO Aramaic means.
And show me references where they are the same.
The jokes is on you, seems the PALESTINE flew over your head.

In aramaic there’s nothing like yeshua, yeshu.

And he doesn’t know Israel’s geography of Bible times also includes today’s Palestine?

I’m really enjoying this joke of yours.

Now tell us the difference between “JUDEO” Aramaic and “JEWISH” Palestine Aramaic 🙂
Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by Maynman: 9:26am On Mar 08, 2023
Show us where judeo aramaic which you now call jewish Palestine Aramaic was spoken widely in Ancient Israel.

OkCornel:


And he doesn’t know Israel’s geography of Bible times also includes today’s Palestine?

I’m really enjoying this joke of yours.

Now tell us the difference between “JUDEO” Aramaic and “JEWISH” Palestine Aramaic 🙂

Who doesn’t know that?

Please tell us When was judeo aramaic formed?
What do you refer to as “ancient israel”?
First explain what JUDEO Aramaic means.
And show me references where they are the same. cheesy

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by OkCornel(m): 9:29am On Mar 08, 2023
Maynman:

First explain what JUDEO Aramaic means.
And show me references where they are the same.
The jokes is on you, seems the PALESTINE flew over your head.

In aramaic there’s nothing like yeshua, yeshu.

Yawns…

Hebrew and Aramaic name of Jesus. Yeshua or Y’shua.

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by Maynman: 9:30am On Mar 08, 2023
OkCornel:


Yawns…

🥱
Is hebrew and aramaic the same? Why would they pronounce it the same way? grin

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by OkCornel(m): 9:33am On Mar 08, 2023
Maynman:
Show us where judeo aramaic which you now call jewish Palestine Aramaic was spoken widely in Ancient Israel.



Who doesn’t know that?

Please tell us When was judeo aramaic formed?
What do you refer to as “ancient israel”?
First explain what JUDEO Aramaic means.
And show me references where they are the same. cheesy
See the spelling of Jesus in Galilean Aramaic.

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by Maynman: 9:34am On Mar 08, 2023
Show us where judeo aramaic which you now call jewish Palestine Aramaic was spoken widely in Ancient Israel.

OkCornel:

See the spelling of Jesus in Galilean Aramaic.
Yeshua is a hebrew name.
There’s nothing like “yeshua” in Aramaic.

Re: Who Was "Jesus Ben Ananias" Similar To Jesus Christ 2000 Years Ago By Josephus by OkCornel(m): 9:36am On Mar 08, 2023
Maynman:
Show us where judeo aramaic which you now call jewish Palestine Aramaic was spoken widely in Ancient Israel.


Yeshua is a hebrew name.
There’s nothing like “yeshua” in Aramaic.

Jesus was from Galilee and he spoke Aramaic right?

Google the spelling and pronunciation of Jesus in Galilean Aramaic. Hmmm?

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