jaephoenix:

Did you read any of the links I posted?

Have you checked from Wiki and any other reasonable source?
You went to a biased, source from someone who does not even accept the Bible
I can give you link that covid never existed

jaephoenix:

You can call them any

That makes your points irrelevant and foolish and baseless

jaephoenix:

So none of non Jews he healed could write about him?

Some did
Their works are compiled into a book
Yet, you see it as forged and mythical cis you don't WANT to accept truth but lies

jaephoenix:

They stated 'christians'. How the Bleep am I supposed to know them?

Ask Google

jaephoenix:

1. Those are historians and linguistics. Nothing concern them with religion, and thus can't be bible critics
2. Again, you reason like a amoeba. Even people that lived 5000 years ago have paintings, histories and artifacts about them. I just showed you some artifacts more than 10k years ago
3. Typical theist. Ignorance at its finest. Obviously you haven't heard about Emperor Constantine and the great crusade.
Read this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great_and_Christianity
An excerpt
During the reign of the Roman Emperor Constantine the Great (AD 306–337), Christianity began to transition to the dominant religion of the Roman Empire. Historians remain uncertain about Constantine's reasons for favoring Christianity, and theologians and historians have often argued about which form of early Christianity he subscribed to. There is no consensus among scholars as to whether he adopted his mother Helena's Christianity in his youth, or, as claimed by Eusebius of Caesarea, encouraged her to convert to the faith he had adopted.
Your ignorance is too much for you
4. Bro, you're a prize dummy. The ultimate source of many conutry laws and constitutions is from the Code of Hammurabi, and maybe Epic of Gilgamesh. Has nothing to do with your dummy buybull. Read up and cure this ignorance that has infested your brain.
In the prologue, Hammurabi claims to have been granted his rule by the gods "to prevent the strong from oppressing the weak". The laws are casuistic, expressed as "if ... then" conditional sentences. Their scope is broad, including, for example, criminal law, family law, property law, and commercial law.

Modern scholars responded to the Code with admiration at its perceived fairness and respect for the rule of law, and at the complexity of Old Babylonian society. There was also much discussion of its influence on the Mosaic Law. Scholars quickly identified lex talionis—the "eye for an eye" principle—underlying the two collections. Debate among Assyriologists has since centred around several aspects of the Code: its purpose, its underlying principles, its language, and its relation to earlier and later law collections.

Despite the uncertainty surrounding these issues, Hammurabi is regarded outside Assyriology as an important figure in the history of law and the document as a true legal code. The U.S. Capitol has a relief portrait of Hammurabi alongside those of other historic lawgivers. There are replicas of the stele in numerous institutions, including the headquarters of the United Nations in New York City and the Pergamon Museum in Berlin.
The Code of Hammurabi was one of the earliest and most complete written legal codes and was proclaimed by the Babylonian king Hammurabi, who reigned from 1792 to 1750 B.C. Hammurabi expanded the city-state of Babylon along the Euphrates River to unite all of southern Mesopotamia. The Hammurabi code of laws, a collection of 282 rules, established standards for commercial interactions and set fines and punishments to meet the requirements of justice. Hammurabi’s Code was carved onto a massive, finger-shaped black stone stele (pillar) that was looted by invaders and finally rediscovered in 1901
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great_and_Christianity

1. An historian need not be religious. I was referring to the last link you dropped

2. Show us one painting. Remember that Jesus was not a national or Roman

3. You reason like ape. The code of whatever is true but the Bible is false amd myth and forged from the code of whatever? What was in the code?

jaephoenix:

1. Ok
2. What is Jesus in French, Spanish and Portuguese?
3. Old carvings more than 10,000 years
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article269764062.html

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.shutterstock.com/search/5000-years-old&ved=2ahUKEwil27TE26L-AhXY_7sIHcHLCQkQFnoECCEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1Q_ZpsskncufWTywEgO3Y2

1..

2. Ask the governor in your state

3. How reliable are those carvings?
You need to see a psychic

Maynman:


Mary and Joseph in the jospehus book you are using to defend Iesus chrestus.
Does Josephus write myths?

Josephus was a Chrestian, he knew no Iesus chrestus, jospehus was talking about judas of Galilee.


Animal!

Maynment
I'm sure that what you posted is not for a unbiased source
Even if it was
Was it a real Jesus, fictional Mary and jospeh
I'm not sure if you think Josephus was not a myth himself cos you're just delusional

Maynman:


Iesus chrestus doesn’t exist outside the pages of New Testament.
Josephus was talking about judas of Galilee who later became jesus in your New Testament
Tacitus was talking about Chrestians before it was altered into “Christian”, i wonder the people doing the altering

In all the hundreds of stupid comments you dropped
Nothing is even convincing that Jesus NEVER existed
What does Wiki says

Maynman:


No historian wrote or reference the existence of jesus christ.

Ignorance is a disease and a common one for atheists like you

sonmvayina:



So who saw him?

I need like 2 eye witness independent account of jesus....

Give me two eyewitness accounts of Elijah, Jeremiah and Moses so I will believe they existed

jaephoenix:

Are you evening reading? J was added to the English alphabet in the 1532.
Besides early Aramaic used Yahushua or Yeshua, not Jesus. I'm surprised a supposed christian doesn't know this

So that rules out the existence and historicuty of Jesus right?
You have problem indeed
Is he the only one with the letter J
Similarly, we can say Jerusalem never existed

Aemmyjah:


Was that Psalm 110 written in English?
Check the Emphatic diaglott or ancient manuscript of that same verse and you will find the names and I will appreciate if you can stop quoting me for silly questions and reasoning
Tell us one miracle you have performed with since you have knowledge and light

I haven't performed yet, still growing spiritually but God has healed me three times. Medically proven with records . Ones from congestive heart failure. My Pastor prayed for me n I slept n woke up, n started breathing normally when I woke up. N many more times. Well maybe if I wasn't a testimony of the power of Jesus I might v bin a doubting Thomas like u. So my prayer for u is to really encounter God's power urself n not hear about it only. I believe my conviction comes from my experience of him.

sonmvayina:


Provide the evidence for the historical existence of jesus and put me to shame..

Religion is about faith..not fact..

You are already someone to be ashamed of himself
My religion is based on solid evidence
If I may ask you what your definition of faith is

sonmvayina:


Lol..Psalm 2 is about David...

It was written by David and given to the choirmaster to read during service...

It is not a prophecy..

Bro Max
Come and see this guy and diagnose his problem

jaephoenix:

Bro, a man that healed the sick, raised the dead, resurrected etc, would be written about in several books. Not just that, carvings and depictions of his actions would be all over the place. But in fact we cannot find anything

Even if they were
Was the target to be for the nation or worldwide?
At a time in history, the Bible was to. Be exterminated cos it was the basis of the Christian faith. How much more any other e writings of Jesus works. Even if they did, it will still perish

jaephoenix:

Lol at the bolded. You call insertion of a whole sentence about Jesus, 'altered a bit'?

Some tried to alter it
We have one recently called Kanye West

Aemmyjah:


In all the hundreds of stupid comments you dropped
Nothing is even convincing that Jesus NEVER existed
What does Wiki says

That same Wikipedia said this.a
Who did the altering?

Maynman:


That same Wikipedia said this.a
Who did the altering?

That Jesus never existed?
Where's the sentence

De play

Aemmyjah:


Ignorance is a disease and a common one for atheists like you

Forgery and interpolation are joys of theists like you.

Josephus and Tacitus never referred to your Iesus chrestus

Aemmyjah:


That Jesus never existed?
Where's the sentence

De play

Which jesus are you talking about?

Dey worship yahweh and iesus chrestus

Jen96:
I haven't performed yet, still growing spiritually but God has healed me three times. Medically proven with records . Ones from congestive heart failure. My Pastor prayed for me n I slept n woke up, n started breathing normally when I woke up. N many more times. Well maybe if I wasn't a testimony of the power of Jesus I might v bin a doubting Thomas like u. So my prayer for u is to really encounter God's power urself n not hear about it only. I believe my conviction comes from my experience of him.

I Believe in miracles
Life in itself is a miracle
Miracles are around us

Not the frame by religious leaders on TV as business strategy to win 'customers'

Aemmyjah:


Menton and quote 10 names and characters and events from those 'many books'

I accept Mad is my brother, he's not ment. Who's yours?

Are you an animal that can’t think?
The jospehus books, the tactitus books you are using to defend yourself are not part of the “many books”

Sheep, are the books in your Old Testament not more than 2000 years old?
Think na animal

Aemmyjah:


Maynment
I'm sure that what you posted is not for a unbiased source
Even if it was
Was it a real Jesus, fictional Mary and jospeh
I'm not sure if you think Josephus was not a myth himself cos you're just delusional

Which jesus?
Which mary and Joseph?
If you think Josephus is not a myth then why are you acting dull questions.

Josephus was talking about judas of Galilee, early Christians especially master forger Eusebius used alot of Josephus work to write and shape the New Testament.

Animal!

Maynman:


Which jesus are you talking about?

Dey worship yahweh and iesus chrestus

Ment guy

Historical or fictional Iesus chrestus?

Aemmyjah:


Ment guy

Historical or fictional Iesus chrestus?

Animal guy

Which book did you read historical or fictional Iesus chrestus?
Is it inside a book that one character was walking on water?

jaephoenix:

You're deflecting. Tacitus reference was in a sentence. Josephus was in TF which was edited. Is this hard for you to understand?

Did Tacitus or Josephus really say these things?
Take Tacitus for example:

As with almost all ancient Greek and Latin literature,[14] no original manuscripts of the Annals exist. The surviving copies of Tacitus' works derive from two principal manuscripts, known as the Medicean manuscripts, written in Latin, which are held in the Laurentian Library in Florence, Italy.[15] It is the second Medicean manuscript, 11th century and from the Benedictine abbey at Monte Cassino, which is the oldest surviving copy of the passage describing Christians.[16] Scholars generally agree that these copies were written at Monte Cassino and the end of the document refers to Abbas Raynaldus cu... who was most probably one of the two abbots of that name at the abbey during that period.[16]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Jesus

Jen96:
😂 ur matter is worse. Regarding the name, shey u know Jesus was not the name given to him when he rose from the dead? It was "LORD" psalm 110 vs 1. It's not the name Jesus or Yeshua that saves alone, it's the understanding of the name n who you are calling. Jesus was his earthly name . But what saves is the understanding of his "Authority" of "Lord" over all principalities and powers and every other name that is mentioned in this world n in the world to come.

Why do u think ppl shout Jesus and nothing happens but one person comes and just say In Jesus name n everything works perfectly? Ppl r healed, miracles r happening? It's understanding. This kingdom works by light

If I shout Buhari during 10 road traffic accidents, chances are that in 1 or 2 occasions, I may be unhurt. So does it mean the name Buhari is the greatest name above others?

KnownUnknown:


Did Tacitus or Josephus really say these things?
Take Tacitus for example:

As with almost all ancient Greek and Latin literature,[14] no original manuscripts of the Annals exist. The surviving copies of Tacitus' works derive from two principal manuscripts, known as the Medicean manuscripts, written in Latin, which are held in the Laurentian Library in Florence, Italy.[15] It is the second Medicean manuscript, 11th century and from the Benedictine abbey at Monte Cassino, which is the oldest surviving copy of the passage describing Christians.[16] Scholars generally agree that these copies were written at Monte Cassino and the end of the document refers to Abbas Raynaldus cu... who was most probably one of the two abbots of that name at the abbey during that period.[16]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Jesus

And besides Tacitus was talking and describing Chrestians.
Suetonius too was talking about Chrestians.

Aemmyjah:


About a historical or mythical person?
De play

Mythical

Aemmyjah:


Were there any historians with him when he healed the daughter
See how you reason
Mention one event of a man who's not a king or warrior centering his activity in a small city and his works were written by people that still survived till today for about 2000 years?
You expected such works to have survived if they actually existed? Shame on you

1. You don't need to be a historian to acknowledge or engrave an important figure. You can make drawings or carvings of that person. That was what ancient folks did. These days we take photos or videos. Do you need to be a historian to take photos or videos or autograph of your favorite guys?
2. Sorry. Jesus works wasn't centered in one city. He was touted to have moved through several cities, like Samaria, Jerusalem, Judea etc. Read your buybull
3. I have shown you paintings and artworks that are more than 10k years. You have no case, sir

Aemmyjah:


Do you understand?
I said many have tried to alter by adding and subtracting down to this day including a man called Kanye but God has preserved his works

Did you read the last paragraph about people rewriting the buybull and changing all reference to Yahweh?

Aemmyjah:


Have you checked from Wiki and any other reasonable source?
You went to a biased, source from someone who does not even accept the Bible
I can give you link that covid never existed

Its easy to know when a source is wrong. It doesn't answer all the questions. Please since you said my source is biased, can you show us an unbiased source?