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Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Mayntheemaynn: 11:06am On May 30, 2023
Richwallet:



I'm comparing Israelites to Cushites, Hamites and Mizram? All biblical groups mentioned in the Bible. That despite there may be some that embrace Christianity, Judaism and Islam their spiritual bloodline remains the same cattle herding polytheists. That in the rrural back country some of their cousins still follow the old ways of bathing in cow's urine and eating cow's dung. A people that essentially love being close to nature and venerating animals. A people who only recently gave up raiding enslaving other tribes and nations. Because it's known fact that whilst Emperor Hallie Salassie was on the throne open slave markets were in Ethiopia. Fast forward to Obama first East African President of the United States of America who bombed Libya then allowed open slave markets in that Muslim nation. Blame the Arab? No, there is no slavery in Saudi Arabia. And the laws against homosexuality was always present in Saudi Arabia and other Arab nations going back to Prophet Muhammad.. Laws was against homosexuality in Iran among Persians who are also our people. It is your people of various biblical tribes mentioned that had no law against homosexuality. Remember we are Shemitic men who mixed with your women to produce the look we have today. We are not Black or African but brown skin Shemitic people with wooly hair like yours. That's the difference I have been trying to get you to accept. It's scientific and spiritual that we are not the same. We love y'all as Noah's family yet let's keep it honest about our true identities.

A literal explanation of nothing has literally nothing to do with the discussion. grin


🥱 “kabbalah practitioner” what does ein sof mean?😂😂


Ecclesiastes 3:19 Mans fate is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath; man has no advantage over the animal. Everything is meaningless.

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Richwallet: 12:33pm On May 30, 2023
Mayntheemaynn:

🥱 “kabbalah practitioner” what does ein sof mean?😂😂


Ecclesiastes 3:19 Mans fate is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath; man has no advantage over the animal. Everything is meaningless.


Treating animals with dignity and respect is it veneration?


Hebrew Bible/Old Testament
Deut 4 : 15–18 explicitly banned the making of idols in the form of any kind of animal, bird, reptile, or fish. The most well known example of animal worship is Israel's worship of the statue of the golden calf or bull at Mount Sinai in Exod 32 : 1–35 (cf. Deut 9 : 8–21).

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Mayntheemaynn: 12:37pm On May 30, 2023
Laughing in LION of judah cheesy

Richwallet:



Treating animals with dignity and respect is it veneration?


Hebrew Bible/Old Testament
Deut 4 : 15–18 explicitly banned the making of idols in the form of any kind of animal, bird, reptile, or fish. The most well known example of animal worship is Israel's worship of the statue of the golden calf or bull at Mount Sinai in Exod 32 : 1–35 (cf. Deut 9 : 8–21).


“kabbalah practitioner” what does ein sof mean?
Ein sof is not jealous.




Exodus 34:14
14 Do not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous god

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Richwallet: 1:06pm On May 30, 2023
Mayntheemaynn:
Laughing in LION of judah cheesy


“kabbalah practitioner” what does ein sof mean?
Ein sof is not jealous.




Exodus 34:14
14 Do not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous god






Babi
Babi was a fierce, bloodthirsty baboon god who was ancient even in the realm of Egyptian gods. We find him mentioned as early as the Old Kingdom, when Babi "bull (i.e. dominant male) of the baboons" with his supernatural aggression is an attribute to which the monarch aspires. He controls the darkness and will open up the sky for the king since his phallus is the bolt on the doors of heaven. This virility symbol is carried over into a later spell where in order to ensure successful sexual intercourse in the Afterlife a man identifies his sexuality with Babi. Perhaps it is not entirely fortuitous that the Underworld ferryboat uses Babi's phallus as its mast.

Why you quote the Bible all the time if you believe in Babi? Does Babi have quotes of wisdom?

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Mayntheemaynn: 1:16pm On May 30, 2023
Babi is an elohim, you were created in elohim image. male and female, androgynous.

Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים, romanized: ʾĔlōhīm: [(ʔ)eloˈ(h)im]), the plural of אֱלוֹהַּ‎ (ʾĔlōah), is a Hebrew word meaning "gods".
The word elohim or 'elohiym (ʼĕlôhîym) is a grammatically plural noun for "gods" or "deities" or various other words in Biblical Hebrew.

It is cognate to the word 'l-h-m which is found in Ugaritic, where it is used as the pantheon for Canaanite gods, the children of El, and conventionally vocalized as "Elohim".

Richwallet:









Why you quote the Bible all the time if you believe in Babi? Does Babi have quotes of wisdom?

“kabbalah practitioner” what does ein sof mean?
Ein sof is not jealous.

What do you understand by “Bible”, you mean the masoteric canon text you call tanakh?
What are the sources of tanakh cheesy

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Richwallet: 1:34pm On May 30, 2023
Mayntheemaynn:
Babi is an elohim, you were created in elohim image. male and female, androgynous.

Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים, romanized: ʾĔlōhīm: [(ʔ)eloˈ(h)im]), the plural of אֱלוֹהַּ‎ (ʾĔlōah), is a Hebrew word meaning "gods".
The word elohim or 'elohiym (ʼĕlôhîym) is a grammatically plural noun for "gods" or "deities" or various other words in Biblical Hebrew.

It is cognate to the word 'l-h-m which is found in Ugaritic, where it is used as the pantheon for Canaanite gods, the children of El, and conventionally vocalized as "Elohim".


“kabbalah practitioner” what does ein sof mean?
Ein sof is not jealous.

What do you understand by “Bible”, you mean the masoteric canon text you call tanakh?
What are the sources of tanakh cheesy



Why a Baboon God?
A common question is: Why, out of all the animals, the Egyptians chose baboons to be their god? Many different schools of thought tried to explain the special deference towards this animal. The most famous and original explanation is given by Suzanne Harvey, from the University of California.

She explains that baboons resemble humans in many ways. They wake up in the morning and, like other primates, stretch their bodies and produce vocalizations. Also, they have high libidos.

According to her, the answer is also connected to the Egyptian vision of the world. When Baboons stretched and uttered noises in the morning, people believed that they did it to appease the sun god: Amun Ra, the ultimate sacred and celestial god in Egyptian religion


Please provide a Babi quote that condemns monotheism as you can easily find Bible quotes condemning idolatry.

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Mayntheemaynn: 1:42pm On May 30, 2023
Babi is an elohim, you were created in elohim image.
The word elohim or 'elohiym (ʼĕlôhîym) is a grammatically plural noun for "gods" or "deities" or various other words in Biblical Hebrew.

The Canaanite pantheon of gods was known as 'ilhm, the Ugaritic equivalent to elohim.For instance, the Ugaritic Baal Cycle mentions "seventy sons of Asherah". Each "son of god" was held to be the originating deity for a particular people

Virtually all scholars agree that the Torah is composed of material from multiple different authors, or sources. The three most commonly recognized are the Priestly (P), Deuteronomist (D), and Yahwist (J) sources.

Richwallet:







Please provide a Babi quote that condemns monotheism as you can easily find Bible quotes condemning idolatry.

Please “kabbalah practitioner” what does ein sof mean?
Ein sof is not jealous.
Please what is the name of the Sumerian God or has english been created then? Or is it enlil son of An.
What’s the meaning of “bible”?
What are the sources of the “bible”?
You are reading a jewish book talking about their israelite god yahweh, yahweh is a jealous god he doesn’t want israelites to worship other gods.

In Deuteronomy 32 the language originally said that the nations were assigned by El according to the number of his sons and daughters, which fits perfectly with the statement that Israel is Yahweh’s inheritance or portion.

Yahweh was just another one of El’s sons in the old polytheism of Israel. The two deities were later combined into Yahweh-Elohim, the sole god in monotheistic Judaism.

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Richwallet: 4:22pm On May 30, 2023
The Brown Skin Anti Christ.

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Mayntheemaynn: 4:26pm On May 30, 2023
Please “kabbalah practitioner” what does ein sof mean?

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Richwallet: 5:22pm On May 30, 2023
There is no black Jesus

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Mayntheemaynn: 5:26pm On May 30, 2023
A common Latin name for male boys gotten from TRANSLITERATION of Yeshua.
May i not be a slave waiting for a jewish savior.

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Richwallet: 8:15pm On May 30, 2023
Mayntheemaynn:
A common Latin name for male boys gotten from TRANSLITERATION of Yeshua.
May i not be a slave waiting for a jewish savior.


The historical name is Yeshua Ben Yossef which means Yah Saves Son Of Joseph. The Emperor of Rome Constantine at the Council of Nicea decreed Jesus was God born a man with no father virgin mother. Constantine had to weave the beliefs of Rome around Jesus thus the Emperor was a god so Jesus became a god. The Romans believed virginity was magical and worshipped virgins so that became essential that only a virgin can give birth to a god. All of these ideas became orthodoxy what I term Glue, needed to keep a vast empire one that held many nations in many regions and provinces of Rome. All other ideas true or not became heresy. Arianism which insisted Christ was a mere mortal and not God Almighty was declared heresy and all their books burned. My ancestor King Clovis was an Arian Christian yet he married a Gothic princess Childea and was finally baptized a Catholic. Clovis established the Frankish Empire based on Catholicism due to expediency there simply wasn't information on what Arian actually believed and wrote since all the materials were burned more than a century ago.


One view glues an empire and keeps everyone on the same page. Yet the philosophy must be embedded with inclusiveness to grow.
Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Mayntheemaynn: 8:22pm On May 30, 2023
Richwallet:



The historical name is Yeshua Ben Yossef which means Yah Saves Son Of Joseph. The Emperor of Rome Constantine at the Council of Nicea decreed Jesus was God born a man with no father virgin mother. Constantine had to weave the beliefs of Rome around Jesus thus the Emperor was a god so Jesus became a god. The Romans believed virginity was magical and worshipped virgins so that became essential that only a virgin can give birth to a god. All of these ideas became orthodoxy what I term Glue, needed to keep a vast empire one that held many nations in many regions and provinces of Rome. All other ideas true or not became heresy. Arianism which insisted Christ was a mere mortal and not God Almighty was declared heresy and all their books burned. My ancestor King Clovis was an Arian Christian yet he married a Gothic princess Childea and was finally baptized a Catholic. Clovis established the Frankish Empire based on Catholicism due to expediency there simply wasn't information on what Arian actually believed and wrote since all the materials were burned more than a century ago.


One view glues an empire and keeps everyone on the same page. Yet the philosophy must be embedded with inclusiveness to grow.


Exactly, Yeshua translates to Joshua.
The early church fathers had to replace the “i” in Iesus to create “jesus”.
Emperor Constantine was a chrestian, he set up “Catholic” to bring all chrestian sect together, some refused.
Emperor Constantine assembled the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE, to bring about unity of doctrine as far as possible. He had been quite surprised at the extent of disunity in the Chrestian religion. He sought to exclude the Gnostic Chrestian, leading to their rapid decline during the fourth century, but tolerated the Donatists in North Africa. The most famous issue dealt with in the Council of Nicaea was the status of Jesus and whether there was a Holy Trinity.


Trinitarianism, the belief that Yahweh is three persons etc, directly contradicts the central teaching of Judaism that Yahweh is one. Which is evidently found in Shema Yisrael as quoted in Deuteronomy 6:4, also in The Gospel of Mark 12:29–31 mentions that Jesus of Nazareth considered the opening exhortation of the Shema to be the first of his two greatest commandments.

A heresy only becomes a heresy when the dominant religious leaders declare it to be a heresy, so neither Trinitarianism nor Arianism was yet a heresy before the Council sat.
Had Arianism become the accepted doctrine, as well it might have, then Trinitarianism would now be regarded as a heresy.
Nevertheless, Trinitarianism won and was declared a mandatory belief for all Chrestians in 381 CE, meaning that Arianism would henceforth be a "heresy".
The major supporter of the Trinity Doctrine at the council was Tertullian, he was also a MONTANIST

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Richwallet: 8:33pm On May 30, 2023
Mayntheemaynn:

Exactly, Yeshua translates to Joshua.
The early church fathers had to replace the “i” in Iesus to create “jesus”.
Emperor Constantine was a chrestian, he set up “Catholic” to bring all chrestian sect together, some refused.
Emperor Constantine assembled the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE, to bring about unity of doctrine as far as possible. He had been quite surprised at the extent of disunity in the Chrestian religion. He sought to exclude the Gnostic Chrestian, leading to their rapid decline during the fourth century, but tolerated the Donatists in North Africa. The most famous issue dealt with in the Council of Nicaea was the status of Jesus and whether there was a Holy Trinity.


Trinitarianism, the belief that Yahweh is three persons etc, directly contradicts the central teaching of Judaism that Yahweh is one. Which is evidently found in Shema Yisrael as quoted in Deuteronomy 6:4, also in The Gospel of Mark 12:29–31 mentions that Jesus of Nazareth considered the opening exhortation of the Shema to be the first of his two greatest commandments.

A heresy only becomes a heresy when the dominant religious leaders declare it to be a heresy, so neither Trinitarianism nor Arianism was yet a heresy before the Council sat.
Had Arianism become the accepted doctrine, as well it might have, then Trinitarianism would now be regarded as a heresy.
Nevertheless, Trinitarianism won and was declared a mandatory belief for all Chrestians in 381 CE, meaning that Arianism would henceforth be a "heresy".
The major supporter of the Trinity Doctrine at the council was Tertullian, he was also a MONTANIST


God is the true ruler and gives it to whom He pleases. God favored Constantine no doubt as he was married to St. Helena a descendant of Jesus. In order for a future Jesus descendant King Clovis to become an emperor Jesus had to ascend to a god. An Emperor is a king of kings as King Clovis became king of all Franks, Goths, Lombards and Romans living in Western Rome. If you can recall David and Solomon were never called king of kings. Esau the end of the
world i.e Rome the Edomites that ruled Rome then Jacob that began a new world in Europe. These visions are high ideas and principles that get repeated or cycle throughout history.


Daniel 4:17
King James Version
17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.
Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Mayntheemaynn: 8:35pm On May 30, 2023
Richwallet:



God is the true ruler and gives it to whom He pleases. God favored Constantine no doubt as he was married to St. Helena a descendant of Jesus. In order for a future Jesus descendant King Clovis to become an emperor Jesus had to ascend to a god. An Emperor is a king of kings as King Clovis became king of all Franks, Goths, Lombards and Romans living in Western Rome. If you can recall David and Solomon were never called king of kings. Esau the end of the
world i.e Rome the Edomites that ruled Rome then Jacob that began a new world in Europe. These visions are high ideas and principles that get repeated or cycle throughout history.


In Ptolemaic Egypt, the goddes Isis - she was the Last Queen of Ancient Egypt, when rulers were men, worshipped across the Roman Empire and the last Queen Cleopatra was the resurrected Isis - became Isis Chrest.

Julius Caesar and later, Mark Antony, became the husband of this divine Cleopatra claiming the Romans as her Divine Consort; between them were fathered a number of children; among them was Antonia.

Antonia was the legitimate daughter of Mark Antony and Octavia Minor, and founded a polythesistic, imperial cult. Their followers called themselves Chrestian in the early decades of the first century of the modern era.

We thus see that Isis Chrest is linked, through Cleopatra and Mark Antony, to Chrestianity.

Chrestians became explicit in 37 CE, in an inscription naming Antonia Minor, her husband the commander Drusus, and the Pompeii banker, Lucius Caecilius lucundus.

One has a natural tendency to look to religions to be based on something positive, good; Chrestianity was the exact opposite: it was political, with the purpose of supporting Imperial clients in the Levant against Messianic Judaism (which was a rising force).

It did this not by promoting itself, but by instigating conflict with Messianic Jews, just look at their character and actions: the Imperial chamberlain Epaphroditus; the Prefect of Judaea, Felix; the common-law wife of Emperor Vespasian, Caenis.

They are those members who built the sect through the first century, killing Nero and Domitian (within less than a century).

The two levers of power used by early Chrestianity were the imperial army and money (which is how the other two Chrestians founder, first named was a brilliant, Roman commander (Drusus, husband of Antonia) and the Pompeii banker/money lender Lucius Caecilius.

Codex Sinaiticus, of the fourth century, was explicitly Chrestian; this Bible was conceived as Black Propaganda against Messianic Judaism, which is one reason why the early dates offered for its individual books are highly doubtful; it parodies both the Ebionim and the Messianic expectations of sacred, Jewish literature, after the Wars had ended.

Chrestianity was not conceived as good for anyone other than the Imperial cause, as Antonia had intended.
Chrestianity is overtly magical and when “IS Chrest” appears, he too is a magician, in the Greek style.
The New Testament is most accurately described as parody, because it is full of parodies and was composed to parody the enemy of the authors: the Poor and its leadership.

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Richwallet: 8:42pm On May 30, 2023
Mayntheemaynn:

In Ptolemaic Egypt, the goddes Isis - she was the Last Queen of Ancient Egypt, when rulers were men, worshipped across the Roman Empire and the last Queen Cleopatra was the resurrected Isis - became Isis Chrest.

Julius Caesar and later, Mark Antony, became the husband of this divine Cleopatra claiming the Romans as her Divine Consort; between them were fathered a number of children; among them was Antonia.

Antonia was the legitimate daughter of Mark Antony and Octavia Minor, and founded a polythesistic, imperial cult. Their followers called themselves Chrestian in the early decades of the first century of the modern era.

We thus see that Isis Chrest is linked, through Cleopatra and Mark Antony, to Chrestianity.

Chrestians became explicit in 37 CE, in an inscription naming Antonia Minor, her husband the commander Drusus, and the Pompeii banker, Lucius Caecilius lucundus.

One has a natural tendency to look to religions to be based on something positive, good; Chrestianity was the exact opposite: it was political, with the purpose of supporting Imperial clients in the Levant against Messianic Judaism (which was a rising force).

It did this not by promoting itself, but by instigating conflict with Messianic Jews, just look at their character and actions: the Imperial chamberlain Epaphroditus; the Prefect of Judaea, Felix; the common-law wife of Emperor Vespasian, Caenis.

They are those members who built the sect through the first century, killing Nero and Domitian (within less than a century).

The two levers of power used by early Chrestianity were the imperial army and money (which is how the other two Chrestians founder, first named was a brilliant, Roman commander (Drusus, husband of Antonia) and the Pompeii banker/money lender Lucius Caecilius.

Codex Sinaiticus, of the fourth century, was explicitly Chrestian; this Bible was conceived as Black Propaganda against Messianic Judaism, which is one reason why the early dates offered for its individual books are highly doubtful; it parodies both the Ebionim and the Messianic expectations of sacred, Jewish literature, after the Wars had ended.

Chrestianity was not conceived as good for anyone other than the Imperial cause, as Antonia had intended.
Chrestianity is overtly magical and when “IS Chrest” appears, he too is a magician, in the Greek style.
The New Testament is most accurately described as parody, because it is full of parodies and was composed to parody the enemy of the authors: the Poor and its leadership.


Yes Christos was worshipped long before Jesus's ascension into that role. The Shemitic people were also India that worshipped Khrisna who was a king of kings. What is going on is a mixture of Shemitic beliefs and that of Kemet. Christ is Sumerian belief a king of kings as Shem was the oldest son and head of Noah's family after Noah died.

My Frankish ancestors didn't adopt the Greek Eastern Rome version of Christianity they adopted the Latin Catholicism of Western Rome. We created our own version.
Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Mayntheemaynn: 8:43pm On May 30, 2023
Richwallet:



Yes Christos was worshipped long before Jesus's ascension into that role. The Shemitic people were also India that worshipped Khrisna who was a king of kings. What is going on is a mixture of Shemitic beliefs and that of Kemet. Christ is Sumerian belief a king of kings as Shem was the oldest son and head of Noah's family after Noah died.

My Frankish ancestors didn't adopt the Greek Eastern Rome version of Christianity they adopted the Latin Catholicism of Western Rome. We created our own version.

Bwahahahaha, take it easy, christos is a title not a person that’s been worshipped 😂😂😂
And this is chrestus not christos 😁


From this Bible(Codex Sinaiticus) , we learn that all previous manuscripts that became included in the Modern New Testament are not “Christian”, but Chrestian; we can see how monks much later scratched the Greek H (E) used in Chrest to become the I of Christ.

This becomes of particular importance in the discussion of the Logos doctrine of Philo, for his brother - Alexander Lysimachus, Alabarch of Alexandria - was the chamberlaim to one of the first, explicit Chrestians (Antonia Minor, according to the Latin inscription of 37 CE).

Philo is widely believed to have written the first Christology, but from this Bible and other archaeological records, we see how it would have been a Chrestology.

Just to remind: Chrestianity is a pagan, imperial cult starting in the early first century. It first appears as supporting imperial clients in the Levant and in so doing, opposing Messianic Judaism, seen as competing against the claimed divinity of the Emperor.

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Richwallet: 8:55pm On May 30, 2023
Mayntheemaynn:

Bwahahahaha, take it easy, christos is a title not a person that’s been worshipped 😂😂😂
And this is chrestus not christos 😁


From this Bible(Codex Sinaiticus) , we learn that all previous manuscripts that became included in the Modern New Testament are not “Christian”, but Chrestian; we can see how monks much later scratched the Greek H (E) used in Chrest to become the I of Christ.

This becomes of particular importance in the discussion of the Logos doctrine of Philo, for his brother - Alexander Lysimachus, Alabarch of Alexandria - was the chamberlaim to one of the first, explicit Chrestians (Antonia Minor, according to the Latin inscription of 37 CE).

Philo is widely believed to have written the first Christology, but from this Bible and other archaeological records, we see how it would have been a Chrestology.

Just to remind: Chrestianity is a pagan, imperial cult starting in the early first century. It first appears as supporting imperial clients in the Levant and in so doing, opposing Messianic Judaism, seen as competing against the claimed divinity of the Emperor.


You take it easy, we are on the same page about the name Christ being a title that goes back further to Khrisna which is Shem.

You have Serapis Christos a title given to Emperor Ptolemy who headed the Greek Empire from Egypt. Yet he was a Hebrew Edomite with brown skin and was practicing Egyptian worship not modern Christianity. Christ from what I gather from the many uses means king of kings an emperor. It's not wise to confuse the different philosophy of Christos worship in Egypt with Western Latin Christendom as the two are vastly different. One of the things I read about the Christos followers of Antioch is that they were human sacrificers. This is consistent with them being of Egyptian polytheism.

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Mayntheemaynn: 8:59pm On May 30, 2023
Richwallet:



You take it easy, we are on the same page about the name Christ being a title that goes back further to Khrisna which is Shem.

You have Serapis Christos a title given to Emperor Ptolemy who headed the Greek Empire from Egypt. Yet he was a Hebrew Edomite with brown skin and was practicing Egyptian worship not modern Christianity. Christ from what I gather from the many uses means king of kings an emperor. It's not wise to confuse the different philosophy of Christos worship in Egypt with Western Latin Christendom as the two are vastly different. One of the things I read about the Christos followers of Antioch is that they were human sacrificers. This is consistent with them being of Egyptian polytheism.







Still failing, christ is a greek word, it goes back to hebrew as “messiah”, all kings and priests in ancient israel is a messiah hence christ.

I’m talking about “chrestus” here, not christos.
And it’s serepsis CHRESTUS not christos.

We see - in the manuscript record - that ‘Christ’ is a medieval invention, created by changing the eta of Chrest to iota.


Here is the oldest manuscript:

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Richwallet: 9:04pm On May 30, 2023
Mayntheemaynn:

Still failing, christ is a greek word, it goes back to hebrew as messiah, all kings and priests in ancient israel is a messiah hence christ.

I’m talking about “chrestus” here, not christos.
And it’s serepsis CHRESTUS not christos.

We see - in the manuscript record - that ‘Christ’ is a medieval invention, created by changing the eta of Chrest to iota.


Here is the oldest manuscript:





We see - in the manuscript record - that ‘Christ’ is a medieval invention, created by changing the eta of Chrest to iota.


Latin Christendom is totally different from Christos and Serapis Worship.

I'm saying Christ is a title for king of kings.
Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Mayntheemaynn: 9:06pm On May 30, 2023
Richwallet:









Latin Christendom is totally different from Christos and Serapis Worship.

I'm saying Christ is a title for king of kings.



Serapsis worship is from isis and it’s called CHRESTUS.

Christ is a title that means the anointed, those anointed with OIL.
All kings and priests in ancient israel are messiahs, that’s why jews reject Iesus chrestus that exist only on the pages of New Testament.

The New Testament , Codex Sinaiticus, of the fourth century, was explicitly Chrestian; this codex was conceived as Black Propaganda against Messianic Judaism, which is one reason why the early dates offered for its individual books are highly doubtful; it parodies both the Ebionim and the Messianic expectations of sacred, Jewish literature, after the Wars had ended.

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Richwallet: 9:21pm On May 30, 2023
Mayntheemaynn:

Serapsis worship is from isis and it’s called CHRESTUS.

Christ is a title that means the anointed, those anointed with OIL.
All kings and priests in ancient israel are messiahs, that’s why jews reject Iesus chrestus that exist only on the pages of New Testament.

The New Testament , Codex Sinaiticus, of the fourth century, was explicitly Chrestian; this codex was conceived as Black Propaganda against Messianic Judaism, which is one reason why the early dates offered for its individual books are highly doubtful; it parodies both the Ebionim and the Messianic expectations of sacred, Jewish literature, after the Wars had ended.



Meaning
Anointed, Sovereign
Etymology
From the noun χριστος (christos), anointed or sovereign.

SOVEREIGN Meaning: "superior, ruler, master, one who is superior to or has power over another," from Old French
Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Mayntheemaynn: 9:26pm On May 30, 2023
Richwallet:




Meaning
Anointed, Sovereign
Etymology
From the noun χριστος (christos), anointed or sovereign.



Anointed with OIL, you RUB IT cheesy
from Latin Christus, from Greek khristos "the anointed," noun use of verbal adjective of khriein "to rub, anoint"

The hebrew of christ is messiah.

And I’m talking about chrestus not christos or christus cheesy

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Mayntheemaynn: 9:28pm On May 30, 2023
Richwallet:




Meaning
Anointed, Sovereign
Etymology
From the noun χριστος (christos), anointed or sovereign.

SOVEREIGN Meaning: "superior, ruler, master, one who is superior to or has power over another," from Old French



Kabbalah practitioner no where does christus mean “sovereign”.
This is the greek word for sovereign κυρίαρχος.
Don’t be too desperate.

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Richwallet: 9:51pm On May 30, 2023
Mayntheemaynn:

Kabbalah practitioner no where does christus mean “sovereign”.
This is the greek word for sovereign κυρίαρχος.
Don’t be too desperate.


When Messiah is confirmed upon Jesus it means He is the king of kings and lord of Lords. Christian kings used the sovereignity of Christ to justify their unquestionable rule. During the time my ancestors ruled they wielded power over life and death. Christianity was apart of everything in Medieval France and the laws of God were upheld. Sure there were law breakers but the king could order anyone executed without any opposing because he was said to have Christ's permission.
Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Mayntheemaynn: 9:59pm On May 30, 2023
Richwallet:



When Messiah is confirmed upon Jesus it means He is the king of kings and lord of Lords. Christian kings used the sovereignity of Christ to justify their unquestionable rule. During the time my ancestors ruled they wielded power over life and death. Christianity was apart of everything in Medieval France and the laws of God were upheld. Sure there were law breakers but the king could order anyone executed without any opposing because he was said to have Christ's permission.


A pagan imperial cult first appears in the archaeological record in 37 CE - Chrestianity.
Imperial chamberlains were seen to start the Great Fire of Rome in 64 CE as part of a property scam, in time to instigate the First, Jewish-Roman War.
The senior chamberlain in the Imperial court was Epaphroditus, a Chrestian, already known to us through the New Testament, as a colleague of Saul.
We have a contemporary account of Imperial chamberlains running with firebrands at the start of the Great Fire, which gives us some idea of their character - Epaphroditus, and his associates - Poppaea Sabina, Saul and Josephus included. They are not loyal to Nero, but to something else, Chrestianity.
Domitian executed Epaphroditus for the death of Nero and Domitian was then also killed by Chrestians.

“several ex-consuls did not venture to lay hands on his (Nero's) chamberlains although they caught them on their estates with tow and fire-brands... (Suetonius, The Life of Nero)”


There were no Christians during Nero Time, but instead, an imperial cult called Chrestianity; this became much like the Mafia and was responsible for starting Rome Fire, to aid in property speculation.
Chrestianity started as Greco-Roman, out of the resurrection of Cleopatra VII as Isis.



The archaeology of the Basilica of Saint Clement in Rome shows that it was built on the ashes of that fire.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Clemente_al_Laterano

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Richwallet: 10:47pm On May 30, 2023
The First Church
In his 1601 Annales Ecclesiastici, the Vatican librarian, Cesare Baronius, recorded that Joseph of Arirnathea first came to Marseilles in AD 35, nine years before the Magdalene voyage. From there, he and his company crossed to Britain. This was confirmed long before by GiIdas Badonicus in his De Excidio Britanniae, with earlier references by Eusebius of Caesaria (AD 260-340) and Hilary of Poitiers (AD 300-367). The years AD 35-37, very shortly after the Crucifixion, are thus among the earliest recorded dates for Nazarene evangelism.

Another important character in 1st-century Gaul was St Philip, who was described in the De Sancto Joseph ab Arimathea, and in the monastic records, as a colleague of Joseph and Mary Magdalene in the West. The chances are that the Nag Hammadi Gospel of Philip was written by Philip himself during this period. He could also perhaps have authored the Gospel of Mary Magdalene. As confirmed by Freculphus, the 9th-century Bishop of Lisieux, Archbishop Isidore of Seville (AD 600-636) wrote:

Philip of the city of Bethsaida, whence also came Peter, preached Christ to the Gauls, and brought barbarous nations and their neighbours ... into the light of knowledge... Afterwards he was stoned and crucified, and died in Hierapolis, a city of Phrygia.

Upon their arrival in the West of England Joseph and his twelve missionaries were apparently viewed with scepticism by the native Britons, but were greeted with some cordiality by King Arviragus of Siluria, brother of Caractacus the Pendragon. In consultation with other local chiefs, Arviragus granted Joseph twelve hides of Glastonbury land - about 1,440 acres (about 582 hectares). Here, in AD 63-64, they built a unique little church on a scale of the ancient Tabernacle of Moses. These grants to Joseph remained holdings of free land for many centuries thereafter, and were confirmed in the Domesday Book of 1086: The Church of Glastonbury has its own ville twelve hides of land, which have never paid tax.

In that 1st-century era of Peter and Paul’s executions, Christian chapels were hidden underground in the catacombs of Rome, but when Joseph's wattle chapel of St Mary was built at Glastonbury Britain could boast the first above-ground Christian church in the world. Later called the Vetusta Eccesia (the Old Church) it was cited in royal charters of King Ina in 704 and King Cnut in 1032.

A monastery was subsequently added to the .chapel, and the Saxons restructured the complex in the 8th century. Following a disastrous fire in 1184, Henry II of England granted the community a Charter of Renovation in which Glastonbury was referred to as: 'The mother and burying place of the saints, founded by the disciples of our Lord themselves.' A stone-built Lady Chapel was constructed at that time, and the complex grew to become a vast Benedictine abbey, second in size and importance only to Westminster Abbey in London. Prestigious figures associated with Glastonbury included St Patrick (the first Abbot in the 5th century) and St Dunstan (Abbot 940-946).

In addition to the accounts of Joseph of Arimathea at Glastonbury, others tell of his association with Gaul and the Mediterranean metal trade. Abbot John of Glastonbury (14th-century compiler of Cronicasive Antiquitates Glastoniensis Ecclesie) and John Capgrave (Principal of the Augustinian Friars in England 1393-1464) both quoted from a book found by Emperor Theodosius (AD 375-395) at the Praetorium in Jerusalem. Entitled, De Sancto Joseph ab Arimathea, it tells how Joseph was imprisoned by the Jewish elders after the Crucifixion. This event is also described in the Acts of Pilate section of the Gospel of Nicodemus. The historian, Gregory of Tours (AD 544-595), also mentioned the imprisonment of Joseph in his History of the Franks and it was recounted yet again in Joseph d'Arimathie by the Burgundian Grail chronicler, Sire Robert de Boron, in the 12th century. The Magna Glastoniensis Tabula: and other manuscripts add that Joseph subsequently escaped and was pardoned. Some years later, he was in Gaul with his nephew Josephes, who was baptized by Philip the apostle.

It is likely that Joseph of Arimathea's mining interest was the primary reason for the generous land grant by King Arviragus. He was, after all a well-known metal merchant and artificer in metals; a 'master craftsman' (ho-tekton), as was his father, in the tradition of the Old Testament characters Tubal-cain and Bezaleel.

The De Sancto Joseph states that Joseph of Arimathea's wattle church was dedicated ‘in the thirty-first year after our Lord’s Passion’ – that is AD 64. This conforms with AD 63 as its date of commencement as given by the medieval historian William of Malmesbury. But, since the dedication was to St Mary (generally presumed to be Jesus’s mother), it has long been a point of debate that a church should have consecrated her so many years after her death, yet long before there was any semblance of a Virgin Mother cult. As confirmed in the 12th – century Chronica Majora of Matthew Paris, however, AD 63 was the very year in which the other Mary – Mary Magdalene – died at La Sainte-Baume.

From the Magdalene Legacy by Laurence Gardner.


Serapis Christos was worshipped in Egypt by the Hebrew Edomites Greeks. These are not white or black people they are Edomites. These same people created the Roman Empire yet they were Hebrew. What is the difference between Hebrew and other Semitic people is that they are mixed with various nations of Ham. Constantine is an Edomite, the name Christ is a title and it does have meaning related to Khrisna. India is Shemetic not Asian. Because India always bordered the land of Yapeth the women were fair skin. Then Kush which is your ancestors invaded and created the caste that rules India today which includes Pakistan. Hinduism is Babi mixed with the Vedas. grin The Vedas is monotheism. Abraham was living in Chaldea but him and his people were from India. My face is on royal artwork there too. Is it just my face it's that of my royal ancestors. Judah is actually Yahounde which is taken from Yavada which means warrior. Khrisna was the emperor of the Yavadas. Christ is a title. Abraham is buried in the royal city of Judah, Judah, Yahounde.




My ancestors created Christianity. Christ founded the belief by reforming the old faith of King David. Edomites are Hebrews anything they do is a credited to us as a whole. Yeshua becoming king of kings under the Roman Empire or becoming Ruler of Egypt under Serapis Christos. It is a title not a person. An attribute we can focus empire.
Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Maynmaynmayn: 7:21am On May 31, 2023
The earliest Bible originally mentioned “Is Chrest”, Chrestianity and Chrestians; no manscript claimed as Early Christian mentions ’Jesus Christ’.

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Maynmaynmayn: 7:22am On May 31, 2023
As I have demonstrated very many times, with reliable archaeology:

What people assume was Christianity in that period is, in verifiable fact, Chrestianity, a pagan, imperial cult.
The Christian, textual tradition is in part mythological; where it can be examined, it is Chrestian.
We must therefore revise a sentence, to read:

The Gnostic ideas and systems flourished in the Mediterranean world in the second century AD, in conjunction with and influenced by the early Chrestian movements and Middle Platonism.
Further, when we then read “In the Persian Empire, Gnosticism spread as far as China with Manicheism” we know, from the Epistle of Mani, that Mani referenced Chrestos, not Christos.

Which brings us to Greek Magic, the basis of Chrestianity:

Middle Platonism: “Numenius of Apamea (c. 160) combined Platonism with Neopythagoreanism and other eastern philosophies, in a move which would prefigure the development of Neoplatonism.”

That’s Greek Magic.

Gnosis refers to knowledge based on personal experience or perception. In a religious context, gnosis is mystical or esoteric knowledge based on direct participation with the divine.
Proper interpretation cannot use false premises. To begin to understand that movement, start with Chrestianity.

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Maynmaynmayn: 7:24am On May 31, 2023
The Antonia underlined in red is Antonia Minor. She and her husband, the military commander Drusus, are both named as Chrestians in a Latin inscription dated 37 CE.


She worked for Augustus, who killed the children in his way to becoming emperor.

Her job was to hold elite children hostage; she produced Chrestians, many of whom would return to their royal families in the provinces, to rule. Those that failed her were ‘disappeared’ - Herod Agrippa famously so:

20 Now Herod[c] was angry with the people of Tyre and Sidon. So they came to him in a body; and after winning over Blastus, the king’s chamberlain, they asked for a reconciliation, because their country depended on the king’s country for food. 21 On an appointed day Herod put on his royal robes, took his seat on the platform, and delivered a public address to them. 22 The people kept shouting, “The voice of a god, and not of a mortal!” 23 And immediately, because he had not given the glory to God, an angel of the Lord struck him down, and he was eaten by worms and died.
— Acts 12:20-23


The death of Germanicus, a national hero, was regarded by most as assassination; the Emperor was widely suspected of this.

The death of Germanicus in dubious circumstances greatly affected Tiberius's popularity in Rome, leading to the creation of a climate of fear in Rome itself.

Drusus too had a suspicious death:

Shortly before his death he wrote a letter to Tiberius complaining about the style in which Augustus ruled. Suetonius reports that he had refused to return to Rome just before his death.
This family was beset by assassinations from within the family. Nobody before me has seen any connection to Chrestianity.

Re: Islamic Influence On Jesuit Origins by Richwallet: 11:33am On May 31, 2023
Maynmaynmayn:
The Antonia underlined in red is Antonia Minor. She and her husband, the military commander Drusus, are both named as Chrestians in a Latin inscription dated 37 CE.


She worked for Augustus, who killed the children in his way to becoming emperor.

Her job was to hold elite children hostage; she produced Chrestians, many of whom would return to their royal families in the provinces, to rule. Those that failed her were ‘disappeared’ - Herod Agrippa famously so:

20 Now Herod[c] was angry with the people of Tyre and Sidon. So they came to him in a body; and after winning over Blastus, the king’s chamberlain, they asked for a reconciliation, because their country depended on the king’s country for food. 21 On an appointed day Herod put on his royal robes, took his seat on the platform, and delivered a public address to them. 22 The people kept shouting, “The voice of a god, and not of a mortal!” 23 And immediately, because he had not given the glory to God, an angel of the Lord struck him down, and he was eaten by worms and died.
— Acts 12:20-23


The death of Germanicus, a national hero, was regarded by most as assassination; the Emperor was widely suspected of this.

The death of Germanicus in dubious circumstances greatly affected Tiberius's popularity in Rome, leading to the creation of a climate of fear in Rome itself.

Drusus too had a suspicious death:

Shortly before his death he wrote a letter to Tiberius complaining about the style in which Augustus ruled. Suetonius reports that he had refused to return to Rome just before his death.
This family was beset by assassinations from within the family. Nobody before me has seen any connection to Chrestianity.


Gave it up Dr. Babi we have both agreed Christ is a title too. There were four types of Hebrews they are, Judeans the Southern Kingdom, Israelites the Northern Kingdom, Arabs sons of Ishmael and Edomites sons of Esau twin brother of Yacub also known as Jacob. Christ is a title used by all of them including Arabs using Mahdi a title for supreme ruler. Africans have such lofty titles as well in their traditions. The difference between us Cush is that your father is Ham and they mixed with Semitic women that gave some of you lighter skin and such beautiful daughters. Now Judeans are sons of Shem we are originally brown and we mixed with daughters of Ham which gave us wooly hair and browner skin, our daughters also very beautiful. Are you happy being who you are? Get over the differences we will never worship Babi.


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