chrisxxx:

No real and genuine Ikwerre man has ever agreed he is Igbo. As far back as 63 Ikwerre people declared they are not Igbo or any other tribe other than Ikwerre. Then Igbo was in charge of Nigeria. They never took advantage of that to claim Igbo. Ikwerre man can never accept to be Igbo because he calls them Isuama. Ask any Ikwerre man the meaning of Isuama. I rest my case.

Which Ikwerre are you talking about? The ones that migrated from Bini?

If that is so, then no point claiming to be 'distinct', just say Ikwerres are Bini people

gidgiddy:


Which Ikwerre are you talking about? The ones that migrated from Bini?

If that is so, then no point claiming to be 'distinct', just say Ikwerres are Bini people

I prefer being Bini to Igbo. They do not have history of slavery and caste system.

chrisxxx:

I prefer being Bini to Igbo. They do not have history of slavery and caste system.

help get us fp, this thread fit reach 20pages by 2morrow night.

IJAW BOYZ, ALL IS FAIR IN RIVERS.


U WIN SOME AND LOSE SOME.



BLOODY EXPANSIONIST, DAT LOVE TO CONVERT IGBO TO IJAW. NDIARA




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chrisxxx:

I prefer being Bini to Igbo. They do not have history of slavery and caste system.

This is not about what you prefare, this is about who Ikwerres are.

If Ikwerres acknowledge that they are descendants of Bini migrants, they should proudly come out as Bini people. No need for this deceit of claiming to be a distinct ethic group, they are not. What is distinct about migrants who went somewhere else, left their Bini language to speak the language of others?

Ikwerre are nothing but Bini people and they should be proud to come out and claim their ancestry Bini people

IJAW BOYZ, WITHOUT IKWERE ADOPTING IJAW LANGUAGE, U LOST RIVERS STATE AND PORT HARCOURT.

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chrisxxx:

I prefer being Bini to Igbo. They do not have history of slavery and caste system.

gidgiddy:


This is not about what you prefare, this is about who Ikwerres are.

If Ikwerres acknowledge that they are descendants of Bini migrants, they should proudly come out as Bini people. No need for this deceit of claiming to be a distinct ethic group, they are not. What is distinct about migrants who went somewhere else, left their Bini language to speak the language of others?

Ikwerre are nothing but Bini people and they should be proud to come out and claim their ancestry Bini people

Yes, minimum Ikwere suppose they use their Bini language, since they dont want to speak Ijaw.

hammerT:



Yes, minimum Ikwere suppose they use their Bini language, since they dont want to speak Ijaw.

There is no need agitating what can never be reversed. Historically there is no link or connectivity between the Ikwerres and the Igbos. Genetically there is none as DNA sequence has shown. The mystery behind the closeness in our spoken languages is a demonstration of the wonders of the Almighty God.
If you ask me I see an Igbo person as a brother. Every Ikwerre person agrees with this. And until Igbos start to see others in the same light they will always have differences with igboid tribes. Remember I said igboid. You can be described as Igboid and that doesn't make you Igbo.
You can't force me to be what I am not. Thanks.

hammerT:
IJAW BOYZ, WITHOUT IKWERE ADOPTING IJAW LANGUAGE, U LOST RIVERS STATE AND PORT HARCOURT.

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Guy be calming down
Ijaw rules

westlius:

Guy be calming down
Ijaw rules

NA FAMILY MATTER NA, IJAW AND IGBO ARE BROTHERS AFTERALL..


ONE LOVE, I GOT NOTHING BUT LOVE.

TELL YOUR IKWERE BROTHERS TO START LEARNING IJAW AND LEAVE IGBO ALONE


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hammerT:


NA FAMILY MATTER NA, IJAW AND IGBO ARE BROTHERS AFTERALL..


ONE LOVE, I GOT NOTHING BUT LOVE.

TELL YOUR IKWERE BROTHERS TO START LEARNING IJAW AND LEAVE IGBO ALONE


cc: chrisxxx

Who owns the language? Igbo might have copied Ikwerre language imperfectly.
Let me give u a prove. What is the Igbo word for 'Yes'?

hammerT:
Come see Isiagu everywhere?

Red cap and Fedora hat.

Clearly the red cap is the main cap and the fedora hat more fashion.

you are talking like brainless goat.....when did Ijaw became igbo own?
Igbos has nothing to do with fedora hat.
Only a senseless igbo animal will at this modern world trying to say black is white

Maazieze:


you should tell those that keep touting their is no connection between igbo and SS peoples

fedora hat has nothing to do with igbo.....it belongs to Ijaw

chrisxxx:

My brother let me help you. We the Ikwerres as far back as 1964 form Ogbakor Ikwerre Convention when we were in Eastern Region together with the Igbos. Soon after that Igbos formed Ohaneze Ndi Igbo.
In 1965 in Rumuomasi Ikwerre had what is today called Rumuomasi Declaration declaring that they are neither Ijaw, Ogoni or any other ethnic group including the Igbo.
Scientific studies have been carried out using DNAs of Igbos and Ikwerres the conclusion was that they are distinct people. Igbo professors at Uniport carried out this study.
May I asked how did you know you are Igbo?
Did you hear from anyone that you are Igbo?

may I asked one question..?
Is ikwere an ethnicity or they originated from another ethnicity?
I did not mean originating from igbo specifically...but they at least originated from an ethnicity?

hammerT:
IJAW BOYZ, ALL IS FAIR IN RIVERS.


U WIN SOME AND LOSE SOME.



BLOODY EXPANSIONIST, DAT LOVE TO CONVERT IGBO TO IJAW. NDIARA




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which side of igbo Ijaws converted? abi u don take mpkurumiri?

hammerT:


NA FAMILY MATTER NA, IJAW AND IGBO ARE BROTHERS AFTERALL..


ONE LOVE, I GOT NOTHING BUT LOVE.

TELL YOUR IKWERE BROTHERS TO START LEARNING IJAW AND LEAVE IGBO ALONE


cc: chrisxxx

yes,,but we are not biafra

Tukpa8:
may I asked one question..?
Is ikwere an ethnicity or they originated from another ethnicity?
I did not mean originating from igbo specifically...but they at least originated from an ethnicity?

From an unbiased mindset.
The Ikwerre is a distinct ethnic group. My grandmother an Igbo woman from Umuahia told me that when she got married to my grandfather that the distinction between Ikwerre and Igbos were as clear as daylight. That they called the Ikwerres Ndi or Oyi Ikwerre and Ikwerres called them Oyi Igbo. That there was never a time Ikwerres were Igbos. My grandmother died close to 80 years in 2009.
Now from my personal observations.
The Ikwerres first met perhaps outcasts and slaves of Igbo origin in Ikwerre land. This gave them an erroneous believe that anyone who speaks Igbo is an outcast or a slave. As a matter of fact the Ikwerres call the Igbos Isuoma. Which means good and obidient servants. Till date there are roles in Ikwerre land that if your mum is from Igbo land you are not qualified to play such role.
Culturally the Ikwerres are diversed from the Igbos. Although certain words are the same. Ignis always claimed that Ikwerres disassociated themselves after the war. This is not true as Ogbakor Ikwerre was formed before Ohaneze in 1963. The Rumuomasi Declaration of 1964 that the Ikwerres are neither ijaw, Ogoni nor Igbos came before the war.
We have although a lot in common but not one the other.
If an Ebonyi man speaks you will know he speaks Igbo same with Ngwa or Owerri. But when an Ikwerre man speaks it is off Igbo although with some words shared in common.
An Igbo man can only understand Ikwerre by living in PH and using his intellect to join the words.
As a matter of fact just as Igbos have different dialect so does Ikwerres as well. We have over ten Ikwerre dialect. The man in Rumuokoro doesn't speak the same with the man at Choba. The man at Choba doesnt speak the same with Ogbakiri. Ogbakiri doesn't speak same with Rumuolumeni. Rumuolumeni doesnt speak the same with Emuoha. Emuoha doesnt speak the same with Ndele and so forth and so on.
If Ikwerre speaks same dialect it would be easy to say they migrated somewhere.
I also don't believe the Bini story. Although with sounds the Ikwerres found in Emuoha and Ikwerre LGA have a lot in common. They speak like the Bini people.
In all I agree we are in one way or the other related but not one the other.

chrisxxx:

From an unbiased mindset.
The Ikwerre is a distinct ethnic group. My grandmother an Igbo woman from Umuahia told me that when she got married to my grandfather that the distinction between Ikwerre and Igbos were as clear as daylight. That they called the Ikwerres Ndi or Oyi Ikwerre and Ikwerres called them Oyi Igbo. That there was never a time Ikwerres were Igbos. My grandmother died close to 80 years in 2009.
Now from my personal observations.
The Ikwerres first met perhaps outcasts and slaves of Igbo origin in Ikwerre land. This gave them an erroneous believe that anyone who speaks Igbo is an outcast or a slave. As a matter of fact the Ikwerres call the Igbos Isuoma. Which means good and obidient servants. Till date there are roles in Ikwerre land that if your mum is from Igbo land you are not qualified to play such role.
Culturally the Ikwerres are diversed from the Igbos. Although certain words are the same. Ignis always claimed that Ikwerres disassociated themselves after the war. This is not true as Ogbakor Ikwerre was formed before Ohaneze in 1963. The Rumuomasi Declaration of 1964 that the Ikwerres are neither ijaw, Ogoni nor Igbos came before the war.
We have although a lot in common but not one the other.
If an Ebonyi man speaks you will know he speaks Igbo same with Ngwa or Owerri. But when an Ikwerre man speaks it is off Igbo although with some words shared in common.
An Igbo man can only understand Ikwerre by living in PH and using his intellect to join the words.
As a matter of fact just as Igbos have different dialect so does Ikwerres as well. We have over ten Ikwerre dialect. The man in Rumuokoro doesn't speak the same with the man at Choba. The man at Choba does speak the same with Ogbakiri. Ogbakiri doesn't speak same with Rumuolumeni. Rumuolumeni does speak the same with Emuoha. Emuoha does speak the same with Ndele and so forth and so on.
If Ikwerre speaks same dialect it would be easy to say they migrated somewhere.
I also don't believe the Bini story. Although with sounds the Ikwerres found in Emuoha and Ikwerre LGA have a lot in common. They speak like the Bini people.
In all I agree we are in one way or the other related but not one the other.

hmmm.ok o..I hear u..

how many kings Ikwere have in ancient time?
I mean far back 1900s.

Tukpa8:
hmmm.ok o..I hear u..

how many kings Ikwere have in ancient time?
I mean far back 1900s.

Ikwerre has never had a unifying king. Every clan has their chief. No one chief overruled Ikwerre land

chrisxxx:

This is how angry we the Ikwerres collectively feel whenever you stain our blue blood with Igbo identity.

Without being disrespectful, Ikwerre brings absolutely nothing to the Igbo table.

We can discuss history at a later time

fx45:
Without being disrespectful, Ikwerre brings absolutely nothing to the Igbo table.

We can discuss history at a later time

Only a slave brings to a table or decorate a table that he has no share.

hammerT:
WHAT HAPPENED TO IKWERRE LANGUAGE?


AS AN IGBO MAN, WHY, I COME THEY HEAR THE LANGUAGE AND UNDERSTAND THE SONG?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiISnTXVGeQ

Una go get plenty headache because of this man ohhh. Face your front naa

chrisxxx:

Who owns the language? Igbo might have copied Ikwerre language imperfectly.
Let me give u a prove. What is the Igbo word for 'Yes'?

Oh I see. Ikwerres migrated from Bini to their present location, created an entirely different language from the Bini language they came with, and the much larger Igbos went to copy this language?

Igbos never had their own language, they waited for Bini migrants to create one for them?

Im actually enjoying this comedy skit

gidgiddy:



Oh I see. Ikwerres migrated from Bini to their present location, created an entirely different language from the Bini language they came with, and the much larger Igbos went to copy this language?

Igbos never had their own language, they waited for Bini migrants to create one for them?

Im actually enjoying this comedy skit

What is Igbo word for Yes?

When a minority tribe shares boundary with a majority tribe, overtime, the former's culture, language will be greatly influenced by the later. This doesn't mean they are same people. My local government in Kogi shares boundary with Anambra. As a result, even our local chiefs are called "ogbuefi" . Our masquerades, culture are more Igbo than igala. This doesn't mean we are igbos .
But the ibos are always on my neck that I am a biafran. I am an Igala man!

Etosha:
When a minority tribe shares boundary with a majority tribe, overtime, the former's culture, language will be greatly influenced by the later. This doesn't mean they are same people. My local government in Kogi shares boundary with Anambra. As a result, even our local chiefs are called "ogbuefi" . Our masquerades, culture are more Igbo than igala. This doesn't mean we are igbos .
But the ibos are always on my neck that I am a biafran. I am an Igala man!

Ikwerre will always be Igbo clan till tomorrow.

They are members of Ohanaeze.

Right now, because of oil from Igbo land in Obiigbo and others area in Rivers, they are claiming not to be Igbo out of greed.

What is wrong with Ikwerre is Greed and nothng else.

Tukpa8:
fedora hat has nothing to do with igbo.....it belongs to Ijaw

Fedora hat you borrowed from the west?

chrisxxx:

What is Igbo word for Yes?

Is it now about Ikwerre word for Yes? Tell us?

Tukpa8:
fedora hat has nothing to do with igbo.....it belongs to Ijaw

Na your papa the white man invent fedora hat or is fedora ijaw language?

legitnow1:




Ikwerre will always be Igbo clan till tomorrow.

They are members of Ohanaeze.

Right now, because of oil from Igbo land in Obiigbo and others area in Rivers, they are claiming not to be Igbo out of greed.

What is wrong with Ikwerre is Greed and nothng else.

Your assessment is wrong, oil has no bearing in thw issue, its the concerted efforts of non igbos in river state to atomise the igbo clans so they dont feel like a minority

Maazieze:


Your assessment is wrong, oil has no bearing in thw issue, its the concerted efforts of non igbos in river state to atomise the igbo clans so they dont feel like a minority

I think, you are right and that sound alot better.


I want to believe that to be honest.