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Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by Kukutenla: 10:35am On Jun 01, 2023
soojar:


Yeah, I'm always in the process of learning.

Do you know the process involved in passing a budget (supplementary or not)? more so a new national assembly with so many first timers.

You assume the next NASS would be a rubber stamp one despite the ruling party not having the majority in the lower chamber.

Which new administration in Nigeria's history has ever attempted a supplementary budget proposal not to talk of getting it approved as you wrote?

Virement according to you is not complex. Please which of the sectors of the economy can you get 7.5 Billion Dollars (that's 3.6 trillion Naira) to transfer to fuel subsidy (being what we need for subsidy for 6 months).




We learn every day
Stop capping nonsense and learn today!!
You're just making excuses in anticipation of incompetence of the administration.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/business-news/572679-just-in-three-days-to-year-end-senate-passes-supplementary-budget-for-2022.html%23:~:text%3DThe%2520Senate%2520has%2520approved%2520and,be%2520approved%2520by%2520the%2520lawmakers.&ved=2ahUKEwjir9j34aH_AhVRSPEDHfTwBTkQFnoECA4QBQ&usg=AOvVaw2Bv9GiawMLFsfdykY_YmWG

Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by soojar(m): 10:55am On Jun 01, 2023
Kukutenla:

Stop capping nonsense and learn today!!
You're just making excuses in anticipation of incompetence of the administration.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/business-news/572679-just-in-three-days-to-year-end-senate-passes-supplementary-budget-for-2022.html%23:~:text%3DThe%2520Senate%2520has%2520approved%2520and,be%2520approved%2520by%2520the%2520lawmakers.&ved=2ahUKEwjir9j34aH_AhVRSPEDHfTwBTkQFnoECA4QBQ&usg=AOvVaw2Bv9GiawMLFsfdykY_YmWG


I guess you have difficulty understanding what I wrote. was Buhari administration a new administration in 2022?

Was there any supplementary budget passed when YarAdua took over? was there anyone when Johnathan took over? What of when Buhari took over in 2015?

I don't know how competent the new administration will be, we are still waiting. If you are in a position to pass your ideas to the administration kindly do so.

My argument is that it is near impossible for a new regime dealing with a new NASS to approve a supplementary budget especially something as massive as almost 4 trillion Naira in deficit which will require you borrowing to fund.



We learn every day
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by Kingcalls: 11:05am On Jun 01, 2023
clearcrystal:


Subsidy money don't exist anymore, no one can steal it like before.


Open ur eyes ... the money for subsidy will not be used for subsidy , instead they will use it to develop the country they say ... I am telling u that the money will instead be diverted into their pockets , u will not see any major scheme that will benefit the masses and u will still b buying fuel at 500 ... u dint trust policy like that with people that have criminality in their DNA

U really don't know why true Nigerians wanted obi... if obi removed subsidy, u will see the benefits ..... u dint rely of seasoned criminals to do a decent job
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by ValeeLove(m): 12:02pm On Jun 01, 2023
JagabanBorgu:

If only Rufai can talk without sentiments, I assure u I will watch without sentiments.
why you no go watch NTA?
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by Kayyy: 12:22pm On Jun 01, 2023
Kukutenla:

Stop capping nonsense and learn today!!
You're just making excuses in anticipation of incompetence of the administration.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/business-news/572679-just-in-three-days-to-year-end-senate-passes-supplementary-budget-for-2022.html%23:~:text%3DThe%2520Senate%2520has%2520approved%2520and,be%2520approved%2520by%2520the%2520lawmakers.&ved=2ahUKEwjir9j34aH_AhVRSPEDHfTwBTkQFnoECA4QBQ&usg=AOvVaw2Bv9GiawMLFsfdykY_YmWG



You guys are actually the ones saying rubbish and nonsense with pride, and you guys believe you're doing so with wisdom not knowing you're mostly empty , now you don't mind a new government borrowing over 7 billion dollars loan to pay subsidy , but you all flooded the media space with insults on the outrageous debts Buhari incurred through borrowing , this same arise news and all your cohorts called out the largest borrowing ever, yet you want this new government to start in the same note, will this government borrow? Yes they will, but the current reality of our debts and debt servicing would not allow any borrowing for salary , subsidy or palliatives now, if we are not borrowing for industrialization and infrastructure then it's too early , this is a long road journey yes I agree but we have diverted from it for so long using alternatives and we have seen it is still taking us back to the same long road, it's time to enter that road now once and for all.
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by Kukutenla: 12:47pm On Jun 01, 2023
soojar:



I guess you have difficulty understanding what I wrote. was Buhari administration a new administration in 2022?

Was there any supplementary budget passed when YarAdua took over? was there anyone when Johnathan took over? What of when Buhari took over in 2015?

I don't know how competent the new administration will be, we are still waiting. If you are in a position to pass your ideas to the administration kindly do so.

My argument is that it is near impossible for a new regime dealing with a new NASS to approve a supplementary budget especially something as massive as almost 4 trillion Naira in deficit which will require you borrowing to fund.



We learn every day
That's a very lame argument. This kind of argument should justify why it took six months for a president to appoint a cabinet of cronies. I just showed you that a supplementary budget was passed in a week and you're yarning trash about new administration as if APC is just coming into power or NASS is just convening for the first time.
Neither Yaradua nor Jonathan nor Buhari had need to request for supplementary budget or did they cause any upheaval by pronouncements when they assumed office? Even Buhari withdrew from nlng dividends to fund necessities he met on ground as well as bail out states.
So quit this lame excuses
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by Kukutenla: 12:51pm On Jun 01, 2023
Kayyy:




You guys are actually the ones saying rubbish and nonsense with pride, and you guys believe you're doing so with wisdom not knowing you're mostly empty , now you don't mind a new government borrowing over 7 billion dollars loan to pay subsidy , but you all flooded the media space with insults on the outrageous debts Buhari incurred through borrowing , this same arise news and all your cohorts called out the largest borrowing ever, yet you want this new government to start in the same note, will this government borrow? Yes they will, but the current reality of our debts and debt servicing would not allow any borrowing for salary , subsidy or palliatives now, if we are not borrowing for industrialization and infrastructure then it's too early , this is a long road journey yes I agree but we have diverted from it for so long using alternatives and we have seen it is still taking us back to the same long road, it's time to enter that road now once and for all.
What is this halfwit saying? Show me where any administration borrowed $7bn on subsidy. You halfwit fail to realise subsidy was actually called "under-recovery" in NNPC books in Buhari's time. Or where did you think 2.8trn Kyari is talking about comes from. BTW halfwit, what is the budget benchmark and what is the market price of crude presently? Where's the excess going?

And i hope you realise the present budget actually makes provision for subsidy till June ending to begin with.
You're also saying that civil servants should forget about their salaries for now since this govt won't go borrowing. Can you show me the plan for industrialisation and infrastructure we have on ground?
The fact is Tinubu is a clueless as Buhari if not worse. That mere pronouncement has destabilised the system such that long queues are beginning to show up and inflation is going crazy.
What sort of person comes into office and the first thing is to cause discomfort in the system. That's very poor management. The first thing should be stability and efficency. With this, he has taken a battle path he may never recover from.
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by JagabanBorgu: 4:48pm On Jun 01, 2023
ValeeLove:
why you no go watch NTA?
I don't watch Arise or Asleep TV.
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by JagabanBorgu: 4:49pm On Jun 01, 2023
tonytony208:


JagabanBorgu is too daft to watch without sentiment. Even if tinubu rapes his mother, he will find a way to defend it and put the blame on his mother.
Is that why u are supporting Obi after he ràpéd ur moda?
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by tonytony208(m): 5:12pm On Jun 01, 2023
JagabanBorgu:

Is that why u are supporting Obi after he ràpéd ur moda?

You say ths word "rape" without worries as if you are used to it. Are you so much used to rape because you get raped or you raped someone?
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by JagabanBorgu: 7:07pm On Jun 01, 2023
tonytony208:


You say ths word "rape" without worries as if you are used to it. Are you so much used to rape because you get raped or you raped someone?
The one who started with the word is describing his life to us.
I am not surprised, I doñ't expect móbs to be better than ràpïsts, u need to change ur lifestyle tho so u dón't bag jail term.
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by tonytony208(m): 7:44pm On Jun 01, 2023
JagabanBorgu:

The one who started with the word is describing his life to us.
I am not surprised, I doñ't expect móbs to be better than ràpïsts, u need to change ur lifestyle tho so u dón't bag jail term.

Don't you think you are the one who is supposed to change your lifestyle after raping people old enough to be your mother?
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by JagabanBorgu: 9:39pm On Jun 01, 2023
tonytony208:


Don't you think you are the one who is supposed to change your lifestyle after raping people old enough to be your mother?
Seems this a treñd that runs in blood line.
Have u seen a therapist?
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by tonytony208(m): 10:25pm On Jun 01, 2023
JagabanBorgu:

Seems this a treñd that runs in blood line.
Have u seen a therapist?

You, who boast or raping women as old as your mother, is the one who truly need a therapist.

You can't defend tinubu and not sound stupid
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by Gbogbowa: 11:37pm On Jun 01, 2023
JagabanBorgu:
Obi boys all forming analysts.
If only thèîr principal had no kept saying he will remove subsidy, they would have said Obi is not going to do such a thing.
Now that it has been done by another person, they are all claiming analyst, if the table has turned and this was Obi's decision creating a backlash.
They would have said corruption is fighting back.
Fear who no fear Eluuu P people, emergency lovers of Nigeria
cashless policy is good but the implementation is bad, removal of subsidy is good but Tinubu implementation is bad simple
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by JagabanBorgu: 12:13am On Jun 02, 2023
Gbogbowa:
cashless policy is good but the implementation is bad, removal of subsidy is good but Tinubu implementation is bad simple
Obi said the first day he is in office he will remove the subsidy https://www.facebook.com/100003099490509/posts/pfbid02xGFxEcSxFHt6bU9tpRUou7tna4VBAS41WqBopP8fsnaNSx8ohgBnAv7WBoKKaHbsl/?app=fbl
Check the video out here.
So that first day he must have planned everything to implement it abi?
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by JagabanBorgu: 12:13am On Jun 02, 2023
tonytony208:


You, who boast or raping women as old as your mother, is the one who truly need a therapist.

You can't defend tinubu and not sound stupid
Frûstràtions, is that u?
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by Kayyy: 12:53am On Jun 02, 2023
Kukutenla:

What is this halfwit saying? Show me where any administration borrowed $7bn on subsidy. You halfwit fail to realise subsidy was actually called "under-recovery" in NNPC books in Buhari's time. Or where did you think 2.8trn Kyari is talking about comes from. BTW halfwit, what is the budget benchmark and what is the market price of crude presently? Where's the excess going?

And i hope you realise the present budget actually makes provision for subsidy till June ending to begin with.
You're also saying that civil servants should forget about their salaries for now since this govt won't go borrowing. Can you show me the plan for industrialisation and infrastructure we have on ground?
The fact is Tinubu is a clueless as Buhari if not worse. That mere pronouncement has destabilised the system such that long queues are beginning to show up and inflation is going crazy.
What sort of person comes into office and the first thing is to cause discomfort in the system. That's very poor management. The first thing should be stability and efficency. With this, he has taken a battle path he may never recover from.


When empty brains open their gutter mouth to say rubbish things they know nothing about, you know insanity is in place already, the government doesn't pay subsidy , who pays back the under recovery that Nnpc is bearing interms of subsidizing on behalf of the government ? Did you listen to mele kyari today , even the budgeted amount for the six months has not been account for , when he said the government was owing them over 2 trillion in backlog if payments for subsidy, how can you owe I'd you don't pay for something , the government has been paying back whatever Nnpc was subsidizing , and could not even afford to pay again, the govt has not even account for this last - month's payment to Nnpc, all of you socialist waiting for the government to go borrow loan to subsidize your lifestyle and salaries, that era is over , insult and curse Tinubu as much as you want , don't go and find work to do
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by tonytony208(m): 4:01am On Jun 02, 2023
JagabanBorgu:

Frûstràtions, is that u?

After raping women old enough to be your mother, your life can only be frustrated and doomed
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by Buccalcavity2: 4:13am On Jun 02, 2023
Rufai can see how shallow he is when he watches this video. He has zero idea about economy. Just beer parlor gists.
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by xtivin(m): 5:59am On Jun 02, 2023
Rufai a guy is just trying to ridicule this good government move. Palliatives does not go a long run, just make the atmosphere conducive by even attracting investors back. Tinubu himself is an investor and am sure he knows how this things work.
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by Kukutenla: 6:03am On Jun 02, 2023
Kayyy:



When empty brains open their gutter mouth to say rubbish things they know nothing about, you know insanity is in place already, the government doesn't pay subsidy , who pays back the under recovery that Nnpc is bearing interms of subsidizing on behalf of the government ? Did you listen to mele kyari today , even the budgeted amount for the six months has not been account for , when he said the government was owing them over 2 trillion in backlog if payments for subsidy, how can you owe I'd you don't pay for something , the government has been paying back whatever Nnpc was subsidizing , and could not even afford to pay again, the govt has not even account for this last - month's payment to Nnpc, all of you socialist waiting for the government to go borrow loan to subsidize your lifestyle and salaries, that era is over , insult and curse Tinubu as much as you want , don't go and find work to do
What is the halfwit saying?
Point out where I said the govt does not pay subsidy
Your halfwit brain claimed the govt needs to borrow $7bn for subsidy and I asked you to show the govt that ever borrowed that amount solely for subsidy. Instead, you went into a mad rant of nonsense.
If you have no understanding of issues, kindly keep your daft opinion to yourself pls.
I guess you're not also getting subsidised fuel from the pumps. I wonder where they get you dumbos from. I'm sure you're more jobless than I am.
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by orisa37: 9:07am On Jun 02, 2023
DEMANDS SHALL HENCEFORTH REGULATE PRICES.
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by JagabanBorgu: 6:52pm On Jun 02, 2023
tonytony208:


After raping women old enough to be your mother, your life can only be frustrated and doomed
U feeI frûstràtions running through u right?
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by tonytony208(m): 11:24pm On Jun 04, 2023
JagabanBorgu:

U feeI frûstràtions running through u right?

The curse of those old women you rape will follow you to your grave
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by JagabanBorgu: 9:06pm On Jun 05, 2023
tonytony208:


The curse of those old women you rape will follow you to your grave
U are referring to one following u?
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by tonytony208(m): 10:46pm On Jun 05, 2023
JagabanBorgu:

U are referring to one following u?

You are the one who relishes the puzssy of women old enough to be your mother.

So, you are the one that curses from grey hairs will follow
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by maintenant: 8:36am On Jun 07, 2023
maintenant:
If you want me to consult for you on the subsidy regime, you know what to do...

You don't expect me to expend intellectual capital here osho free...
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by tonytony208(m): 6:48pm On Jun 10, 2023
JagabanBorgu:

U are referring to one following u?

I don't rape my mother's age mates like you. So, you are the one carrying curses.
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by JagabanBorgu: 3:22pm On Jun 11, 2023
tonytony208:


I don't rape my mother's age mates like you. So, you are the one carrying curses.
I see that ràpé is ur family treñd, this is my first time tàlking with a ràpîst tho.
And u ràpîsts actually dïsgüst me.
Re: Rotus And Rufai Oseni In A Heated Debate Over Fuel Subsidy Removal (VIDEO) by Hadid: 6:12pm On Aug 19, 2023
maintenant:
Tell me why you cannot like Rufai...

A man with the propensity to use common sense ...

This Odiri guy was just talking theory if not blindly...

You compel marketers to sell at a pump price? How?

Have you put a framework/mechanism for restocking them?

Where are the refineries to supply cheaper fuel? Even Dangote will not be able to provide fuel before July...

What is this man talking about?

You just talking ineffectual theory with no practical experience about how things work in real life...
As Dr Abati will say "... They take yextbook knowledge and run with it"

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