Kukutenla:


Seun this is a Muslim opening threads to denigrate Christ and Christianity without having to swear any oaths or being accused of christophobia.
If we Christians want to return the favor in the exclusive section for Muslims, we have to first swear am oath of being Muslims and we still get banned as a result.
We are watching your and your crusade against Christian faith on this forum

Seun will do the needful, if you and other enemies of Allah are ready to testify that Jesus accepted and agreed on the following as against your OVERBLOWN, OVERRATED AND OVERPRAISED of him.
1. "...... I do NOTHING on my OWN AUTHORITY...." JOHN 8:28
2. " I can DO NOTHING on my OWN AUTHORITY......l seek NOTHING on my OWN WILL but the WILL OF HIM WHO SEND me" John 5: 30.
3. " Truly, truly l say to you, a servant is not greater than his Master, NOR he who is SENT ( not INCARNATED) is greater THAN HE WHO sent him...." John 13:16.
4. " I glorified Thee (Almighty God) on earth..." John 17:4.
5. "...... for Father (God) is GREATER THAN l" John 14:28.
When stop parroting, trumpeting, roaring Jesus is "dis and dat" as obviously against and conspicuously contrary to the above, we muslims in the forum will join you in appealing to Seun; even if he asks you to pay, we will contribute, despite the fact that we know one Sunday big church income is more than enough for such payment.

gaskiyamagana:


Seun will do the needful, if you and other enemies of Allah are ready to testify that Jesus accepted and agreed on the following as against your OVERBLOWN, OVERRATED AND OVERPRAISED of him.
1. "...... I do NOTHING on my OWN AUTHORITY...." JOHN 8:28
2. " I can DO NOTHING on my OWN AUTHORITY......l seek NOTHING on my OWN WILL but the WILL OF HIM WHO SEND me" John 5: 30.
3. " Truly, truly l say to you, a servant is not greater than his Master, NOR he who is SENT ( not INCARNATED) is greater THAN HE WHO sent him...." John 13:16.
4. " I glorified Thee (Almighty God) on earth..." John 17:4.
5. "...... for Father (God) is GREATER THAN l" John 14:28.
When stop parroting, trumpeting, roaring Jesus is "dis and dat" as obviously against and conspicuously contrary to the above, we muslims in the forum will join you in appealing to Seun; even if he asks you to pay, we will contribute, despite the fact that we know one Sunday big church income is more than enough for such payment.

Your article is meaningless. Did you ascribe to any theological doctrine before you got an exclusive section where any thread with the littlest wisp of degrading Islam or your prophet is immediately aborted and the op banned

I thought Islam is just and fair?

xristos:

..............
Just as a 10yr experience is short-scripted in a 2hr movie..so is the Bible a summary of Times and God's word noting key events.
Jesus saw 2 brothers - was a summary event
John account was detailed how he saw them - Andrew found(went to call) his brother to meet Jesus.
Imagine Jesus (the popular figure at the time) at a spot seeing Andrew.. Andrew rushed to call Simon -guy leave wat ure doing Jesus is outside wants to see us i cant go alone... Come..
Then Jesus talked to both.
The reporter (book Matthew & Mark) only saw where Jesus talked to both.. he didnt see the intro. 👌🏼

The summary is that Jesus CALLED (meaning Appointing them disciples..not the literal 'come') both.. however they were found.

If a couple is giving report of their issues... The wife will definitely say it differently from the husband. Which will look like either is lying. Or if ur kids are reporting an event u witnessed to you.. they will say it differently but u know what they are trying to say.

The Bible is a mystery book of Logos (just letters & reports) and Rhema (the revealed word)... A feint logic reader can't understand but argue. (This is perfectly understandable).
The Logos are much more (in quantity) than the Rhema.. and unfortunately they are scattered (unarranged perfectly)

Just calm down... Only the HolySpirit can guide.

And talking about your Holy Spirit is a other hotbed of Confusion.

In the Gospel of Mathew, Mark and Luke we read of many episode where the Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost manifest. In fact in dozens of encounters yet the Gospel of John told us that the Holy Spirit will only come after Jesus must have left.

I can show you all those verses but as usual when we do, will be refered to Rhema, Logos and many Sunday School Bull Turd. So, Padre dey your dey and let the Muslims dey their dey.

delkuf:
do you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. Because for anyone to pray for you to have l million Kuwait dollar, you must believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. Because we pray through the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Just say you believe that he is the son of God

The Dead Man that was raised by Jesus, was he a believer in Jesus before his death or after Jesus raised him?

Pray for Antichristian to get that money and win his soul for Jesus abi miracle don tire Jesus ni?

Lukuluku69:


The Dead Man that was raised by Jesus, was he a believer in Jesus before his death or after Jesus raised him?

Pray for Antichristian to get that money and win his soul for Jesus abi miracle do tire Jesus ni?

No mind these people jawe! I just tire for them!

Kukutenla:

Don't get me wrong and I hope seun does not too.
I'm not saying you have no right to write whatever you want about Christianity. Christians don't believe in restricting speech or thoughts.
What I'm calling attention to is that you freely open threads demeaning to Christianity on the "religion" section without having to swear an oath of being a Christian or animist while a Christian who wants to return the favor by opening a thread questioning Islam on the Islam section can't do same except he first swears an oath and even afterwards, he risks being banned by the obviously islamist mods who also find it offensive to their religion.

It is that hypocrisy of you Muslims enabled by Seun that I'm calling out.

And for the records, Antiislam moniker came after yours. It's a response to your obviously hateful and bigoted moniker and I'm sure it has been banned along the line while yours roams free

You're right, Antiislam came after AntiChristian, they try banning Antiislam from saying the truth but God pass them

AntiChristian:


Shut up!
Many of your folks have been on it for ages!

Check antiislam Monica and a whole lots of others with derogatory Islamic names as monikers!

Are you pained? Bobo order for your camel urine asap

Lukuluku69:


The Dead Man that was raised by Jesus, was he a believer in Jesus before his death or after Jesus raised him?

Pray for Antichristian to get that money and win his soul for Jesus abi miracle don tire Jesus ni?

How does the dead man Jesus Christ raised has to do with did you believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord to get 1 million Kuwait dollars?

RightChannel:


How does the dead man Jesus Christ raised has to do with did you believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord to get 1 million Kuwait dollars?

I asked you to pray that i have such money in such time since your prayers are always answered as a true Christian!
Somebody said i must have faith for my prayer to be answered!

So we asked did dead Lazarus have faith to be raised? Did most of those healed in absentia by Jesus have faith in him? Someone else had faith for them! So you have faith, pray now!

AntiChristian:


I asked you to pray that i have such money in such time since your prayers are always answered as a true Christian!
Somebody said i must have faith for my prayer to be answered!

So we asked did dead Lazarus have faith to be raised? Did most of those healed in absentia by Jesus have faith in him? Someone else had faith for them! So you have faith, pray now!

I will pray for you and you will have such money but did you believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour?

RightChannel:


I will pray for you and you will have such money but did you believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour?

Two Questions!
1.Is that a criteria in the Bible for Jesus to answer prayers?

2.If Jesus can answer prayers, why did he have to pray/fast while on earth?

AntiChristian:


Two Questions!
1.Is that a criteria in the Bible for Jesus to answer prayers?

2.If Jesus can answer prayers, why did he have to pray/fast while on earth?

YES! John 14:14. He prayed to his father in heaven and not like Islamic Allah that prayed to an unknown incarnate along with his Angels when they both prayed for Muhammad


Back to the matter, I will pray for you and you will have such money but did you believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour?

RightChannel:


YES! John 14:14. He prayed to his father in heaven and not like Islamic Allah that prayed to an unknown incarnate along with his Angels when they both prayed for Muhammad

Jesus prostrated to his God
Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.” Matthew 26:29

Back to the matter, I will pray for you and you will have such money but did you believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour?

Where did Jesus call himself "Lord and Savior"?

AntiChristian:


Jesus prostrated to his God
Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.” Matthew 26:29

Jesus prayed to his father as I said earlier in response to the question you asked above.

Islamic Allah with his angels prayed to an unknown incarnate when they prayed for muhammad. You need to address that catastrophic in your religion why did Allah prayed to another incarnate if truly he is almighty?

AntiChristian:

Where did Jesus call himself "Lord and Savior"?

Is like asking where did Jesus called himself a Christian when he himself is Christ Lord and Saviour


The 1 million Kuwait you wanted, I am ready to pray for you and if you don't see the answer to that prayer you should call me a FOOL but did you believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour?

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Jesus prayed to his father as I said earlier in response to the question you asked above.

Islamic Allah with his angels prayed to an unknown incarnate when they prayed for muhammad. You need to address that catastrophic in your religion why did Allah prayed to another incarnate if truly he is almighty?

How is this related to the thread?

Is like asking where did Jesus called himself a Christian when he himself is Christ Lord and Saviour

Biblically Jesus left the world as Jew! Christians no dey put head for ground pray!

The 1 million Kuwait you wanted, I am ready to pray for you and if you don't see the answer to that prayer you should call me a FOOL but did you believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour?

I don't believe Jesus to be more than what he is, a man born by a woman, approved by God, he ate food, slept, sweated, was circumcised and urinated like all other humans!

There's no need calling you a FOOL!

AntiChristian:


How is this related to the thread?

AntiChristian:

Two Questions!
1.Is that a criteria in the Bible for Jesus to answer prayers?

It was related to the calamity you created for yourself not knowing that it will bounce back on you. Jesus prayed to his father, tell this house whom Allah and his angels send their prayers to while praying for Muhammad

AntiChristian:


Biblically Jesus left the world as Jew! Christians no dey put head for ground pray!

This is where your ignorance lies once again, Christians do put head on the floor to pray, we don't bang our heads on the ground as you are known for (Head slammer) in Islam, also we don't perform certain rights like ablution, etc before praying

AntiChristian:

I don't believe Jesus to be more than what he is, a man born by a woman, approved by God, he ate food, slept, sweated, was circumcised and urinated like all other humans!

There's no need calling you a FOOL!

And you want me to pray for you to get 1 million Kuwait right and you don't believe in who I will pray to that will answer your prayer, how would your prayer answered?

RightChannel:


It was related to the calamity you created for yourself not knowing that it will bounce back on you. Jesus prayed to his father, tell this house whom Allah and his angels send their prayers to while praying for Muhammad

Is the thread about Allah praying for Muhammad or for Jesus's claims? I really don't know why you guys like to derail thread when you have nothing upstairs!

This is where your ignorance lies once again, Christians do put head on the floor to pray, we don't bang our heads on the ground as you are known for (Head slammer) in Islam, also we don't perform certain rights like ablution, etc before praying

So who bangs head on the floor? You are just being asinine here! Which church dey put head on the floor dey pray like Jesus did?

And you want me to pray for you to get 1 million Kuwait right and you don't believe in who I will pray to that will answer your prayer, how would your prayer answered?

Show us that Lazarus believed Jesus would raise him up before he was raised?
Show us that the gentile woman Jesus called Dog.....that requested for a miracle for her child, that the child believed in Jesus!

AntiChristian:
Is the thread about Allah praying for Muhammad or for Jesus's claims? I really don't know why you guys like to derail thread when you have nothing upstairs!

You are too dull mehn, how does 1 million Kuwait you want us to pray over for you to get has to do with the topic? When your stupidity is out of control and failure to answer questions, you always found a way moving attention to something similar to your vigorous stupidity and nonsensity

AntiChristian:


So who bangs head on the floor? You are just being asinine here! Which church dey put head on the floor dey pray like Jesus did?

Head slammer asking me who bangs head on the floor. Idolaters such as sango worshipers, etc are the one banging their heads on the floor, they even observed ablution before banging their heads on the ground

AntiChristian:

Show us that Lazarus believed Jesus would raise him up before he was raised?
Show us that the gentile woman Jesus called Dog.....that requested for a miracle for her child, that the child believed in Jesus!.

Jesus performed miracles to prove that he was the divine Son of God, to strengthen the faith of those who believed in him, because he loved and had compassion for those in need, and because of the faith of those who believed

If you need 1 million Kuwait dollars, I will pray for you and you will have it I assure you that

RightChannel:


How does the dead man Jesus Christ raised has to do with did you believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord to get 1 million Kuwait dollars?

Read the post I responded to. It says that Muslim that want a Miracle must first believe in Jesus for Miracle to happen.

Then I humbly ask, the man Jesus raised, was he a believer in Jesus before his death or after he was raised? If he never believed in Jesus before his supposed death and he was raised from death, then pray that Antichrist get his Kuwaiti Dollar then you can win his soul for Jesus. After all, how much is a Million Kuwaiti Dollar to Jesus?

Lukuluku69:


Read the post I responded to. It says that Muslim that want a Miracle must first believe in Jesus for Miracle to happen.

Then I humbly ask, the man Jesus raised, was he a believer in Jesus before his death or after he was raised? If he never believed in Jesus before his supposed death and he was raised from death, then pray that Antichrist get his Kuwaiti Dollar then you can win his soul for Jesus. After all, how much is a Million Kuwaiti Dollar to Jesus?

LAZARUS Whom Jesus raised was a friend and follower of Jesus and a brother to Mary and Martha, he strongly believed in Jesus Christ before and after death

I will pray for your brother to get the 1 million Kuwait dollars he is seeking for

RightChanneI:


LAZARUS Whom Jesus raised was a friend and follower of Jesus and a brother to Mary and Martha, he strongly believed in Jesus Christ

I will pray for your brother to get the 1 million Kuwait dollars he is seeking for

Can you show me where it said or written in the Bible that Lazarus was a believer in Jesus pre-raising up? You are assuming here simply because it is said that he was brother to Martha and Mary. There are Thousands of Jews who never believed in Jesus.

Yeah, go ahead and pray for him to get the One Million Kuwaiti Dollar, I am sure sure he will pay a hefty sum in Thanksgiving and in Regular Tithes too.

Lukuluku69:


Can you show me where it said or written in the Bible that Lazarus was a believer in Jesus pre-raising up? You are assuming here simply because it is said that he was brother to Martha and Mary. There are Thousands of Jews who never believed in Jesus.

Yeah, go ahead and pray for him to get the One Million Kuwaiti Dollar, I am sure sure he will pay a hefty sum in Thanksgiving and in Regular Tithes too.

Don't be too eager to comment just because my response doesn't favours your folly. Read my previous post again gently please

Lazarus was Not just a brother. read my previous post again, this time around read it gently.

I will pray for your brother but let us settled Lazarus discussion first

@Lukuluku69 your brother @AntiChristian had been missing here, I think he has been banned from religion room. Anyways, you can stand for him if you wish

RightChanneI:
@Lukuluku69 your brother @AntiChristian had been missing here, I think he has been banned from religion room. Anyways, you can stand for him if you wish

You missed him?

Don't worry, he will be back. There is a real life outside of Nairaland.

RightChanneI:


Don't be too eager to comment just because my response doesn't favours your folly. Read my previous post again gently please

Lazarus was Not just a brother. read my previous post again, this time around read it gently.

I will pray for your brother but let us settled Lazarus discussion first

Folly? Lol

Because I said you should post where it is written or said Lazarus was a believer before his death?

Just say you don't know and we will move on already....

So, pray for him to get the Dollars....

Lukuluku69:


Folly? Lol

Because I said you should post where it is written or said Lazarus was a believer before his death?

Just say you don't know and we will move on already....

So, pray for him to get the Dollars....

I said Lazarus was a friend and disciple of Jesus Christ but still asking me to post where it is written that he was a believer before his death, HOW DID YOU GUYS THINK IN ISLAM, Is your thinking faculty faulty?

How can he be a friend and disciple of Jesus Christ if he was not a believer? Why not use your senses effectively before vomiting thrash


If you're ready to stand for your second let me know then we'll proceed

Miss who? he ran away from his own thread, you are there asking me if I miss him. God forbid nonsense thingz

Lukuluku69:


You missed him?

Don't worry, he will be back. There is a real life outside of Nairaland.

RightChanneI:


I said Lazarus was a friend and disciple of Jesus Christ but still asking me to post where it is written that he was a believer before his death, HOW DID YOU GUYS THINK IN ISLAM, Is your thinking faculty faulty?

How can he be a friend and disciple of Jesus Christ if he was not a believer? Why not use your senses effectively before vomiting thrash


If you're ready to stand for your second let me know then we'll proceed

Those are your words.

I never read that before and I have been reading the Bible for over 3 Decades now.

Perhaps you can point me to where it is written @ the bolded.

RightChanneI:
Miss who? he ran away from his own thread, you are there asking me if I miss him. God forbid nonsense thingz

If he opened the Thread, then be sure he will come back to it. He is unlike some of you with a Dozen monikers patrolling Nairaland peddling the faith based on Paul's lies.

Don't sweat it, he will be back.

And while at it, the Damsel that Jesus woke up too, was she a believer before or after the raising? You remember "Talitha Kumi episode"?

Lukuluku69:


Those are your words.

I never read that before and I have been reading the Bible for over 3 Decades now.

Perhaps you can point me to where it is written @ the bolded.

This is another chance, if you gat reading problem just hire a primary 1 pupil to help you out. The answer to your question is here, it is either you read gently or you look for a helper to help you out in reading


John 11

11 Now a man named Lazarus was sick. He was from Bethany, the village of Mary and her sister Martha. 2 (This Mary, whose brother Lazarus now lay sick, was the same one who poured perfume on the Lord and wiped his feet with her hair.) 3 So the sisters sent word to Jesus, “Lord, the one you love is sick.”

4 When he heard this, Jesus said, “This sickness will not end in death. No, it is for God’s glory so that God’s Son may be glorified through it.” 5 Now Jesus loved Martha and her sister and Lazarus. 6 So when he heard that Lazarus was sick, he stayed where he was two more days, 7 and then he said to his disciples, “Let us go back to Judea.”

8 “But Rabbi,” they said, “a short while ago the Jews there tried to stone you, and yet you are going back?”

9 Jesus answered, “Are there not twelve hours of daylight? Anyone who walks in the daytime will not stumble, for they see by this world’s light.

10 It is when a person walks at night that they stumble, for they have no light.”

11 After he had said this, he went on to tell them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.”

12 His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.”

13 Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep.

14 So then he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead,

15 and for your sake I am glad I was not there, so that you may believe. But let us go to him.”

16 Then Thomas (also known as Didymus[a]) said to the rest of the disciples, “Let us also go, that we may die with him.”


17 On his arrival, Jesus found that Lazarus had already been in the tomb for four days.

18 Now Bethany was less than two miles[b] from Jerusalem,

19 and many Jews had come to Martha and Mary to comfort them in the loss of their brother.

20 When Martha heard that Jesus was coming, she went out to meet him, but Mary stayed at home.

21 “Lord,” Martha said to Jesus, “if you had been here, my brother would not have died.

22 But I know that even now God will give you whatever you ask.”

23 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.”

24 Martha answered, “I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”

25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;

26 and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?”

27 “Yes, Lord,” she replied, “I believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”

28 After she had said this, she went back and called her sister Mary aside. “The Teacher is here,” she said, “and is asking for you.”

29 When Mary heard this, she got up quickly and went to him.

30 Now Jesus had not yet entered the village, but was still at the place where Martha had met him.

31 When the Jews who had been with Mary in the house, comforting her, noticed how quickly she got up and went out, they followed her, supposing she was going to the tomb to mourn there.

32 When Mary reached the place where Jesus was and saw him, she fell at his feet and said, “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died.”

33 When Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who had come along with her also weeping, he was deeply moved in spirit and troubled.

34 “Where have you laid him?” he asked.

“Come and see, Lord,” they replied.

35 Jesus wept.

36 Then the Jews said, “See how he loved him!”

37 But some of them said, “Could not he who opened the eyes of the blind man have kept this man from dying?”

38 Jesus, once more deeply moved, came to the tomb. It was a cave with a stone laid across the entrance.

39 “Take away the stone,” he said.

“But, Lord,” said Martha, the sister of the dead man, “by this time there is a bad odor, for he has been there four days.”

40 Then Jesus said, “Did I not tell you that if you believe, you will see the glory of God?”

41 So they took away the stone. Then Jesus looked up and said, “Father, I thank you that you have heard me.

42 I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me.”

43 When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!”

44 The dead man came out, his hands and feet wrapped with strips of linen, and a cloth around his face.

Jesus said to them, “Take off the grave clothes and let him go.”

45 Therefore many of the Jews who had come to visit Mary, and had seen what Jesus did, believed in him.

46 But some of them went to the Pharisees and told them what Jesus had done.

47 Then the chief priests and the Pharisees called a meeting of the Sanhedrin.

“What are we accomplishing?” they asked. “Here is this man performing many signs.

48 If we let him go on like this, everyone will believe in him, and then the Romans will come and take away both our temple and our nation.”

49 Then one of them, named Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, spoke up, “You know nothing at all! 50 You do not realize that it is better for you that one man die for the people than that the whole nation perish.”

51 He did not say this on his own, but as high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the Jewish nation,

52 and not only for that nation but also for the scattered children of God, to bring them together and make them one.

53 So from that day on they plotted to take his life.

54 Therefore Jesus no longer moved about publicly among the people of Judea. Instead he withdrew to a region near the wilderness, to a village called Ephraim, where he stayed with his disciples.

55 When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, many went up from the country to Jerusalem for their ceremonial cleansing before the Passover.

56 They kept looking for Jesus, and as they stood in the temple courts they asked one another, “What do you think? Isn’t he coming to the festival at all?”

57 But the chief priests and the Pharisees had given orders that anyone who found out where Jesus was should report it so that they might arrest him.