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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by HNICEARTH: 10:21am On Jul 16, 2023
garfield1:


Obi didn't make that part of his case son

How it flew over your fluffhead need to studied saddo. grin

Meanwhile, y'all out here hyping your over rated olanipekus while man is busy looking out for rerun because like maguire, he defended nothing but rather scored an own goal by putting that bamidele guy in the witness box. grin grin grin

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by 00FFT00(m): 10:40am On Jul 16, 2023
garfield1:


We don't know whether 25% is needed in the fct.it is now left for the court to rule and rule they shall

But you, and those who support the candidate you support, told us bluntly that 1/4th in the FCT is not supported by the constitution, since according to your hypothesis, people in Abuja are not superior to those in the states.

And now that the pendulum seems to swing in a different direction other than that which you will wish from the court, obvious from your legal team's final submission, it is now the court will decide.

Oga, I for like call both thunder, sango and amadioha for you, but you're actually one of the most reasonable and approachable member of your crew. We'll see what the justices say.

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by fergie001: 11:08am On Jul 16, 2023
garfield1:


What do you know about victor onumajuru
Except meeting him about a decade ago, once in the home of a then Maj-Gen (now Rtd), nothing.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by garfield1: 11:09am On Jul 16, 2023
fergie001:

Except meeting him about a decade ago, once in the home of a then Maj-Gen (now Rtd), nothing.

I just learnt that otti refused to submit his NYSC to inec
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by garfield1: 11:10am On Jul 16, 2023
00FFT00:


But you, and those who support the candidate you support, told us bluntly that 1/4th in the FCT is not supported by the constitution, since according to your hypothesis, people in Abuja are not superior to those in the states.

And now that the pendulum seems to swing in a different direction other than that which you will wish from the court, obvious from your legal team's final submission, it is now the court will decide.

Oga, I for like call both thunder, sango and amadioha for you, but you're actually one of the most reasonable and approachable member of your crew. We'll see what the justices say.

Why are you ignoring the other prayers of obi but hammering on FCT
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by garfield1: 11:12am On Jul 16, 2023
HNICEARTH:


How it flew over your fluffhead need to studied saddo. grin

Meanwhile, y'all out here hyping your over rated olanipekus while man is busy looking out for rerun because like maguire, he defended nothing but rather scored an own goal by putting that bamidele guy in the witness box. grin grin grin

Oga,guinea citizenship is not part of obi's prayer but that of atiku.always read before vomiting trash son
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by fergie001: 11:15am On Jul 16, 2023
garfield1:


I just learnt that otti refused to submit his NYSC to inec
submit wetin?

Everyone knows he didn't serve.... He left UPH as the overall best graduating student in 1988, and started working at NIB almost immediately.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by 00FFT00(m): 11:16am On Jul 16, 2023
garfield1:


Why are you ignoring the other prayers of obi but hammering on FCT

Because negating that one prayer is a fatal injury to the constitution.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by garfield1: 11:19am On Jul 16, 2023
00FFT00:


Because negating that one prayer is a fatal injury to the constitution.

That means you agree that all other prayers are dead
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by garfield1: 11:20am On Jul 16, 2023
fergie001:
submit wetin?

Everyone knows he didn't serve.... He left UNIPORT as the overall best graduating student in 1988, and started working at NIB almost immediately.

What of the reference letter? Is gen gold same class as lagbaja
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by fergie001: 11:26am On Jul 16, 2023
garfield1:
What of the reference letter?
Have you ever heard of anything called NYSC Reference Letter?

Is gen gold same class as lagbaja
No... Gold is Sept '93 (40 RC)
Lagbaja is Sept 92 (39 RC)
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by 00FFT00(m): 11:43am On Jul 16, 2023
garfield1:


That means you agree that all other prayers are dead
How so?
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by HNICEARTH: 11:59am On Jul 16, 2023
garfield1:


Oga,guinea citizenship is not part of obi's prayer but that of atiku.always read before vomiting trash son

and who says it was part of obi's prayers? shocked

Olanikepkus tomfoolery throughout the proceedings (with the 1st and 2nd petitioner) was that premium content I had always wanted to subscribe to.

The jab "Guy you are giving olanipekun a run for his money. grin
I dont know who is more unlearned between the both of you" was a pointer but again your rattlebrain couldnt get the direction.

Take a deep breath, get a grip of yourself before you pass a comment
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by garfield1: 12:08pm On Jul 16, 2023
00FFT00:

How so?

Why are you concerned only about fct? What of lack of transmission, shettima double nomination
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by garfield1: 12:09pm On Jul 16, 2023
fergie001:

Have you ever heard of anything called NYSC Reference Letter?


No... Gold is Sept '93 (40 RC)
Lagbaja is Sept 92 (39 RC)

Lagbaja wisely made a northerner a.b Ibrahim as copp
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by TheOldGods: 12:30pm On Jul 16, 2023
Odibembem:


The law has specified how a gov is to emerge in my state. The law has also specified that FCT residents won't determine on their own who governs them as president and lawmakers. Saying that d president nuts win 25% to govern FCT is hogwash and unconstitutional. If u argue that since d Governor of a state must win a state to govern them, then why argue d president must score 25% to govern FCT? Why not argue for him to get majority votes in FCT? Guy this thing won't fly, FCT has no veto over d rest of us, the case would be flung out
did tinubu get majority of the votes? No he didn't. Did tinubu win the state? No he didn't. The Constitution made is compulsory that Abuja must be the deciding factor. If you have to govern them, they have upper hands, upper power than every other state. The people living there are not superior but the state is. The same way Nigerians can't vote for your state governor because not all Nigerians know what you guys feel, who is better. Same way Abuja has right to choose their governor. The president is indeed the governor of Abuja as indicated in the constitution. So he must score 25% in Abuja that he is going to be the governor of.

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by 00FFT00(m): 1:04pm On Jul 16, 2023
garfield1:


Why are you concerned only about fct? What of lack of transmission, shettima double nomination

I am interested in all the prayers pending to be determined consecutively by the justices.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by Odibembem: 1:10pm On Jul 16, 2023
TheOldGods:
did tinubu get majority of the votes? No he didn't. Did tinubu win the state? No he didn't. The Constitution made is compulsory that Abuja must be the deciding factor. If you have to govern them, they have upper hands, upper power than every other state. The people living there are not superior but the state is. The same way Nigerians can't vote for your state governor because not all Nigerians know what you guys feel, who is better. Same way Abuja has right to choose their governor. The president is indeed the governor of Abuja as indicated in the constitution. So he must score 25% in Abuja that he is going to be the governor of.

Someone seeing ur use of the word "must" would think you are actually a judge. Do FCT residents determine who makes laws for them?

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by garfield1: 1:14pm On Jul 16, 2023
00FFT00:


I am interested in all the prayers pending to be determined consecutively by the justices.

But you must know that once other prayers fail,fct will also fail.obi won't even benefit from the fct induced rerun.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by Odibembem: 1:18pm On Jul 16, 2023
00FFT00:


Wanna read through your arguments again?, because it doesn't make sense, is emotional and devoid of logic.

You argued that the law specified how your state governor is to emerge. Who is the law. The constitution as amended.

The same law you subscribe to, who is still the legal persona, the constitution, also stipulates that for a candidate to be seen to have been elected to the office of the president of the federation, he or she shall secure 1/4 of the votes cast in the FCT.

Since you agree with the dictates of the law (the constitution) with respect to how your state governor is to be elected, why does the dictates of the same law (the constitution) regarding how a president is to emerge unconstitutional?.

And finally, why would a candidate contest an election in which he or she is in disagreement with the ground rules without first seeking to set aside, the offending part of the law?.

You are d one claiming that for a candidate to win, he must score 1/4 in d FCT, the law never said so. Do u argue cos u hear your Obidients people argue or u actually have a hard copy of d constitution? I bought mine in 2009 and still have it. Nigeria is a federation. That federation is made up of 36 states and d FCT. The constitution says to be president u must besides majority votes also win 25% in 2/3 of d federation ( d 36 states and FCT). Why u guys single out d FCT for specialty is interesting but d judges surely throw out d petition. It flies in d face of common sense, no region is superior to the other

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by 00FFT00(m): 1:29pm On Jul 16, 2023
garfield1:


But you must know that once other prayers fail,fct will also fail.obi won't even benefit from the fct induced rerun.

Why did you choose to ignore the word “Consecutively”?.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by garfield1: 1:39pm On Jul 16, 2023
00FFT00:


Why did you choose to ignore the word “Consecutively”?.

Almost all obidients know that other prayers are dead so they are latching on to this fct matter.

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by TheOldGods: 1:42pm On Jul 16, 2023
Odibembem:


Someone seeing ur use of the word "must" would think you are actually a judge. Do FCT residents determine who makes laws for them?
Are there senatorial seats in Abuja? If your answer is yes, Mr Philip adua was voted in by Abuja resident to represent and make lawas for them. There are also other senators. Who are the people that make laws? Legislatures.is a senator a legislature? If that is correct did I answer your question?
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by 00FFT00(m): 1:49pm On Jul 16, 2023
Odibembem:


You are d one claiming that for a candidate to win, he must score 1/4 in d FCT, the law never said so. Do u argue cos u hear your Obidients people argue or u actually have a hard copy of d constitution? I bought mine in 2009 and still have it. Nigeria is a federation. That federation is made up of 36 states and d FCT. The constitution says to be president u must besides majority votes also win 25% in 2/3 of d federation ( d 36 states and FCT). Why u guys single out d FCT for specialty is interesting but d judges surely throw out d petition. It flies in d face of common sense, no region is superior to the other

You are still in error in your thinking. Certainly, your possession of the constitution shows that you are interested in your country's legal framework, but so do a lot of us as well.

I am not given to quoting from the book unless I have to, but if you indeed purchased and took the time to study the book, you would be familiar with the conjunction placed on the relationship between the FCT and the states in the context of the 25% requirement.

"And", means Plus. It is a separate requirement that has to co-join to make the whole. So, 25% of the votes in 2/3 of the federating states AND the FCT.

Tinubu fell short of the requirement, having allegedly obtained 18+ percent of these said votes. Allegedly, because we know that votes were simply allocated to him in various places.

The absence of a “normal” executive governor in Abuja prevented Tinubu from scaling over this threshold. There is no criminal structure such as we unfortunately find in our states to rig the votes for him in the FCT. This also explains why LP took the FCT senate seat.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by 00FFT00(m): 1:54pm On Jul 16, 2023
garfield1:


Almost all obidients know that other prayers are dead so they are latching on to this fct matter.

Again, that you choose to continuously hammer the FCT matter is an indication that you correctly identify the same as a bone in Tinubu's throat. While I understand the predicament you face with it, I am confident that the justices will see the matter in the language and context we espouse.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by garfield1: 1:57pm On Jul 16, 2023
00FFT00:


Again, that you choose to continuously hammer the FCT matter is an indication that you correctly identify the same as a bone in Tinubu's throat. While I understand the predicament you face with it, I am confident that the justices will see the matter in the language and context we espouse.

I am not hammering on FCT,lp people are the one.lets leave fct and look at other areas.

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by 00FFT00(m): 2:04pm On Jul 16, 2023
garfield1:


I am not hammering on FCT,lp people are the one.lets leave fct and look at other areas.

Are we then to discard that well established constitutional requirement because your candidate failed it, and is erroneously declared president?.

You've literally argued everything in this post election season, so tell us, which other president in our history post 1999 constitution as amended has failed to secure 25% of FCT votes?.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by 00FFT00(m): 2:06pm On Jul 16, 2023
garfield1:


I am not hammering on FCT,lp people are the one.lets leave fct and look at other areas.

Ok. Fair enough. That will suffice, in my opinion, as an admission of the fact. Let's move on.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by garfield1: 2:09pm On Jul 16, 2023
00FFT00:


Ok. Fair enough. That will suffice, in my opinion, as an admission of the fact. Let's move on.

It is not an admission of fact,lp has not brought any fact to show why fct is mandatory.agsin,obi will not participate in a rerun arising from fct so why bother? Is it not obvious that tinubu will win in any rerun?

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by garfield1: 2:10pm On Jul 16, 2023
00FFT00:


Are we then to discard that well established constitutional requirement because your candidate failed it, and is erroneously declared president?.

You've literally argued everything in this post election season, so tell us, which other president in our history post 1999 constitution as amended has failed to secure 25% of FCT votes?.

We are not discarding anything,the constitution is simply unclear and unambiguous concerning the fct matter.how other presidents have perform in fct has no place in law.the fct matter is clearly at the mercy of the judges

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by 00FFT00(m): 5:03pm On Jul 16, 2023
garfield1:


It is not an admission of fact,lp has not brought any fact to show why fct is mandatory.agsin,obi will not participate in a rerun arising from fct so why bother? Is it not obvious that tinubu will win in any rerun?

The foregoing is your subjective opinion at best. When the votes are properly counted and allocated, we can then talk about who will do what. For now, don't forget PDP magnanimously informed all of us that APC only scored 190,000 votes in Lagos at the presidential election pursuant to their situation room intelligence, while INEC awarded Tinubu 500+ thousand votes in the same location. These are the things that ought to be worrying to all Nigerians, and more.

We understand why INEC elected to hide the BVAS machines. But we'll make the arguments consistent with ObiDatti and LP pleadings, and back it up with empirical facts.

As for FCT, I believe we have settled that discussion on the agreement that there's absolutely no discussion regarding its dictation and application in the constitution. No president has emerged since 1999 without crossing that Rubicon, fraudulently or otherwise, and that's a good place to leave it.

I tell you truly, all eyes are on the judiciary as we speak.

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