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Re: Automation Mentorship Class by ytdivine(m): 10:26am On Aug 18, 2023
Kingslaw:
good morning Sir, been busy with my clearance so that I can go for service next month. I will be checking on every morning.

Best of luck.
Good footing
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by Southboy(m): 10:39am On Aug 18, 2023
Good morning all
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by ytdivine(m): 10:40am On Aug 18, 2023
Moving forward, let's explain what happened in this water supply scenario
In the case of pumping water direct to the tank without a buffer tank, note the following
1. Fluctuations in the water supply due to pump operation is transmitted to each flat ( No constant flow)
2. There is no pool of water created
3. Water distribution is not uniform
4. The moment the pump stops, the flow stops
Looking at the second scenario, the following is obtainable
1. Because there is overhead reserve, there is no fluctuations in the water flow
2. A big pool of water is created
3. The distribution is uniform
4. Continuous water flow even when the pump stops until the whole stored water is discharged.

Please any objections to these assertions?
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by ytdivine(m): 11:08am On Aug 18, 2023
In the above example, we dealt with water flow, let's consider signal flow in a circuit.
Do you know that motion in a television is a multiple of images(continuous image flow). What happen when the motion is fluctuating? Do you know the source of our power supply (NEPA) fluctuates like the water flow from the pump. If this happens, you find out that the images from your TV set keep dancing and in S-Shape form. This is a practical illustration which you may have noticed.
Television is used here for example, this is the case for all the electronics.

Capacitor is a storage tank ( buffer) that stores electric charges(water) in an electric field(water pool/swimming pool)

The following should be noted
a. Charging and discharching (filling and offloading tank)
b. Energy storage (water storage)
c. Source of electric field ( water pool).

So when an electric signal passes through a capacitor, it absorbs the signal until its full and now acts like a new supply source providing a better signal flow(filtered signal). Capacitor is a mini battery in a circuit.

I hope I have not confuse anybody
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by Southboy(m): 11:11am On Aug 18, 2023
ytdivine:
Moving forward, let's explain what happened in this water supply scenario
In the case of pumping water direct to the tank without a buffer tank, note the following
1. Fluctuations in the water supply due to pump operation is transmitted to each flat ( No constant flow)
2. There is no pool of water created
3. Water distribution is not uniform
4. The moment the pump stops, the flow stops
Looking at the second scenario, the following is obtainable
1. Because there is overhead reserve, there is no fluctuations in the water flow
2. A big pool of water is created
3. The distribution is uniform
4. Continuous water flow even when the pump stops until the whole stored water is discharged.

Please any objections to these assertions?
No objection.

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Re: Automation Mentorship Class by Southboy(m): 11:40am On Aug 18, 2023
ytdivine:
In the above example, we dealt with water flow, let's consider signal flow in a circuit.
Do you know that motion in a television is a multiple of images(continuous image flow). What happen when the motion is fluctuating? Do you know the source of our power supply (NEPA) fluctuates like the water flow from the pump. If this happens, you find out that the images from your TV set keep dancing and in S-Shape form. This is a practical illustration which you may have noticed.
Television is used here for example, this is the case for all the electronics.

Capacitor is a storage tank ( buffer) that stores electric charges(water) in an electric field(water pool/swimming pool)

The following should be noted
a. Charging and discharching (filling and offloading tank)
b. Energy storage (water storage)
c. Source of electric field ( water pool).

So when an electric signal passes through a capacitor, it absorbs the signal until its full and now acts like a new supply source providing a better signal flow(filtered signal). Capacitor is a mini battery in a circuit.

I hope I have not confuse anybody
If I get you correctly, electric signal is used to charge the capacitor?
Can the device work when the capacitor is not fully charged?
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by ytdivine(m): 11:41am On Aug 18, 2023
Capacitor is a voltage source
Inductor is a current source
Capacitor produces electric field
Inductor produces magnetic field
Note these points very well.
You can't know electronics without a deep knowledge of capacitor. Good understanding of capacitor alone can put food on your table. Am not going into capacitor in details but it's a component you cannot do without in this field of automation.
To excellent in this field like any other engineering field, you most be good in electronics, the mother of engineering.
We shall deal more on capacitor during the second practical class.

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Re: Automation Mentorship Class by ytdivine(m): 11:42am On Aug 18, 2023
Practical class number 2 is capacitor.
Note it.
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by ytdivine(m): 11:54am On Aug 18, 2023
The next component which is the foundation of our programming is
INDUCTOR.
Our PLC programming language is Ladder Logic Language. This language is based on Relay Logic. Relay is based on Inductor. So pay maximum attention here.
What is PLC?
During interview season, you get amazed by response from job seekers.
There is a computer that control all industrial activities. This computer is called PLC, meaning programmable Logic Controller.
In advance electronics, you talk about Microprocessor and his elder brother, microcontroller. From this, you get Controller (computer). The one you can program or manipulate a lot is PLC.
Hope the point is clear

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Re: Automation Mentorship Class by Southboy(m): 2:37pm On Aug 18, 2023
ytdivine:
The next component which is the foundation of our programming is
INDUCTOR.
Our PLC programming language is Ladder Logic Language. This language is based on Relay Logic. Relay is based on Inductor. So pay maximum attention here.
What is PLC?
During interview season, you get amazed by response from job seekers.
There is a computer that control all industrial activities. This computer is called PLC, meaning programmable Logic Controller.
In advance electronics, you talk about Microprocessor and his elder brother, microcontroller. From this, you get Controller (computer). The one you can program or manipulate a lot is PLC.
Hope the point is clear
Following
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by Newusername(m): 7:56pm On Aug 18, 2023
ytdivine:
As a punishment for not doing my assignment, the following students should come to the front of the class and kneel down
Zealousayo, bestbiz17, eddyboy, new username, micros
You can stand up and get to your seat once you do your assignment.


Good evening boss. It's not like that oo. I have been busy. I will be doing all your assignment tomorrow.

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Re: Automation Mentorship Class by ytdivine(m): 9:40am On Aug 19, 2023
Southboy:
If I get you correctly, electric signal is used to charge the capacitor?
Can the device work when the capacitor is not fully charged?

Yes it works, take for example, your LED touch, the moment you on it, it turns on but fades gradually when turns off. The delay is visibly observed in discharging and not during the charging phase

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Re: Automation Mentorship Class by ytdivine(m): 9:42am On Aug 19, 2023
Newusername:


Good evening boss. It's not like that oo. I have been busy. I will be doing all your assignment tomorrow.
You're forgiven but make sure you participate very well

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Re: Automation Mentorship Class by ytdivine(m): 9:46am On Aug 19, 2023
Rome was not built in a day. A journey of 1 mile begins with a step. This journey of skill acquisition is a gradual one. Get serious with it. Little by little, you're there

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Re: Automation Mentorship Class by Newusername(m): 1:31pm On Aug 19, 2023
ytdivine:

You're forgiven but make sure you participate very well
Yes sir. I will be very active now.
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by ytdivine(m): 1:45pm On Aug 19, 2023
What do you know about an inductor. What happens when
a. ac current
b. DC current
Passes through it
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by janga02(m): 1:52pm On Aug 19, 2023
ytdivine:
Moving forward, let's explain what happened in this water supply scenario
In the case of pumping water direct to the tank without a buffer tank, note the following
1. Fluctuations in the water supply due to pump operation is transmitted to each flat ( No constant flow)
2. There is no pool of water created
3. Water distribution is not uniform
4. The moment the pump stops, the flow stops
Looking at the second scenario, the following is obtainable
1. Because there is overhead reserve, there is no fluctuations in the water flow
2. A big pool of water is created
3. The distribution is uniform
4. Continuous water flow even when the pump stops until the whole stored water is discharged.

Please any objections to these assertions?

Well done boss,

Thank you for this mentorship class, I hope students and young grad will take advantage of this class seriously because, what he is trying to dish out to you free of charge here, somebody spent #800,000 to 1 million to get this from an institute.


I am an electrical engineer by the way and I know what it's like to be a resource person in a department.

Hopefully, I would be able to contribute to this as the class progress.

Kudos to Oga "ytdivine"

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Re: Automation Mentorship Class by Newusername(m): 2:26pm On Aug 19, 2023
ytdivine:
Let's take a step further, these signals are used in control functions. Very soon, we shall look at control.
Electrical or electronics systems are built or designed to allow various electrical signals to pass through them. In electronics, there are small small components that makes up the electronics units. Each components behaves differently when these signals pass through them.
Let's take this illustration.
Consider three men
Mr A
Mr B
Mr C
Let's simulate them with a slap (Signal)
You will find out that each of them react differently.
Reactions
Mr A : May God bless you
Mr B: a doubled returned slap
Mr C: collapsed
You can see from this illustration that the responses are different even though there were all subjected to the same input signal ( slap)
In engineering, we call it transfer function.
This is another foundation, if we get this point very clear, we will not have problem understanding relay logic which will eventually transform to Ladder Logic.
We shall consider two energy storing electronics components and see how they respond to electrical signal
a. Capacitor
b. Inductor

Interesting
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by Newusername(m): 2:29pm On Aug 19, 2023
ytdivine:


Yes, not my fault. When people respond to my question, it shows am not dealing with ghost hence more energy for me to dish out information.
I have made myself available, people should draw as much knowledge as possible from my over 15years hand on the job industrial experience
Following
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by Newusername(m): 2:31pm On Aug 19, 2023
[quote author=Southboy post=125177780][/quote]
You sabi
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by Newusername(m): 2:35pm On Aug 19, 2023
ytdivine:
Moving forward, let's explain what happened in this water supply scenario
In the case of pumping water direct to the tank without a buffer tank, note the following
1. Fluctuations in the water supply due to pump operation is transmitted to each flat ( No constant flow)
2. There is no pool of water created
3. Water distribution is not uniform
4. The moment the pump stops, the flow stops
Looking at the second scenario, the following is obtainable
1. Because there is overhead reserve, there is no fluctuations in the water flow
2. A big pool of water is created
3. The distribution is uniform
4. Continuous water flow even when the pump stops until the whole stored water is discharged.

Please any objections to these assertions?

No objections
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by Newusername(m): 2:40pm On Aug 19, 2023
ytdivine:
In the above example, we dealt with water flow, let's consider signal flow in a circuit.
Do you know that motion in a television is a multiple of images(continuous image flow). What happen when the motion is fluctuating? Do you know the source of our power supply (NEPA) fluctuates like the water flow from the pump. If this happens, you find out that the images from your TV set keep dancing and in S-Shape form. This is a practical illustration which you may have noticed.
Television is used here for example, this is the case for all the electronics.

Capacitor is a storage tank ( buffer) that stores electric charges(water) in an electric field(water pool/swimming pool)

The following should be noted
a. Charging and discharching (filling and offloading tank)
b. Energy storage (water storage)
c. Source of electric field ( water pool).

So when an electric signal passes through a capacitor, it absorbs the signal until its full and now acts like a new supply source providing a better signal flow(filtered signal). Capacitor is a mini battery in a circuit.

I hope I have not confuse anybody

Wow. I love this explanation and the way you are relating it to real life scenarios. Very understandable.

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Re: Automation Mentorship Class by Newusername(m): 2:52pm On Aug 19, 2023
ytdivine:
Rome was not built in a day. A journey of 1 mile begins with a step. This journey of skill acquisition is a gradual one. Get serious with it. Little by little, you're there
Yes sir
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by Newusername(m): 2:54pm On Aug 19, 2023
janga02:


Well done boss,

Thank you for this mentorship class, I hope students and young grad will take advantage of this class seriously because, what he is trying to dish out to you free of charge here, somebody spent #800,000 to 1 million to get this from an institute.


I am an electrical engineer by the way and I know what it's like to be a resource person in a department.

Hopefully, I would be able to contribute to this as the class progress.

Kudos to Oga "ytdivine"

We will be anticipating your contribution.

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Re: Automation Mentorship Class by Newusername(m): 3:07pm On Aug 19, 2023
ytdivine:
What do you know about an inductor. What happens when
a. ac current
b. DC current
Passes through it

An inductor is an electronic components that temporarily store energy in a magnetic field when a current passes through it.

In a dc circuit, an inductor acts like a short circuit when the current is constant.

In an ac circuit, an inductor acts like a resistor that depends on the frequency of the ac source.
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by ytdivine(m): 4:34pm On Aug 19, 2023
janga02:


Well done boss,

Thank you for this mentorship class, I hope students and young grad will take advantage of this class seriously because, what he is trying to dish out to you free of charge here, somebody spent #800,000 to 1 million to get this from an institute.


I am an electrical engineer by the way and I know what it's like to be a resource person in a department.

Hopefully, I would be able to contribute to this as the class progress.

Kudos to Oga "ytdivine"

Thanks for the compliment. I said it before that young graduates and students will not appreciate this golden opportunity. Its only those working in industries that knows the value.
This is my own contribution to national development

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Re: Automation Mentorship Class by ytdivine(m): 4:37pm On Aug 19, 2023
Still waiting for answer to my question about an Inductor.
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by Newusername(m): 4:54pm On Aug 19, 2023
ytdivine:


Thanks for the compliment. I said it before that young graduates and students will not appreciate this golden opportunity. Its only those working in industries that knows the value.
This is my own contribution to national development

Sir we appreciate the opportunity sir
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by ytdivine(m): 5:06pm On Aug 19, 2023
We are going to discuss inductor base on the two pictures below. That's after my questions are answered or attempted.

Re: Automation Mentorship Class by ytdivine(m): 9:09pm On Aug 19, 2023
I appreciate your input @Newusername.
Where is my class rep(southboy) and others?
Waiting for your contributions
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by ytdivine(m): 9:16pm On Aug 19, 2023
In a normal life, you cannot separate fire and smoke. Fire produces smoke. So also smoke produces fire.

Same way, you cannot separate electric current from magnetic field. Whenever there is flow of electric current on a conductor (Inductor), magnetic field is produced.
Also, whenever there is changing magnetic field, an electric current is produced.
Any confusion at this point?
Re: Automation Mentorship Class by ytdivine(m): 9:36pm On Aug 19, 2023
Let's consider the type of magnetic field produced by
a. AC current
b. DC current
And their applications.
Because ac current is changing ( positive and negative half cycle), you have a magnetic field that builds up and collapses
On the other hand, since DC current is not changing, the field produced is fairly constant, does not collapse until the current is removed

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