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Re: PEPT: Tsammani's Tsunami Expected. by KanwuliaExtra: 8:37pm On Aug 16, 2023
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Re: PEPT: Tsammani's Tsunami Expected. by Enice(m): 9:08pm On Aug 16, 2023
Spy360:

This is exactly what APC lawyers expected. They know that the tribunal would require evidence polling unit by polling unit and witnesses called for each polling unit in contest. This is an old gimmick.

So Obi's lawyers decided not to contest that he won but that the process was flawed. If he said he won they would ask for witnesses for each PU, but if he says the process was not properly done, he only needs to prove the process.

How did he do it?

First, he proved that non upload to IREV as stipulated by INEC in its guidelines was a violation of the process. He then brought evidence of 18000 blurred results issued to him by INEC as certified true copies. He also brought 10000 LP agent copies to show that those blurred results were manipulated to reduce his votes and add figures to Tinubu. Those results show that he won two more states (Rivers and Benue) that were awarded to TInubu, thereby increasing his to 13states plus FCT and reducing that of Tinubu to 10states only.

By doing this, he left the tribunal with two options, that if they consider the elections as flawed, then they will order for a rerun. If they consider it as compliant they will now have to recount the votes that are disputed. If the latter is upheld, the only evidence of Election Results before them is what Peter Obi presented showing that he won.

So Obi does not have to prove he won, it is left for the tribunal to decide who won based on the evidence before them.

Personally I feel they will ask for a runoff between the person with the highest votes and the person with the highest states. It will be between Tinubu and Obi, that is if Tinubu is not disqualified.

You wonder why Atiku is going to US courts to prove Tinubu's forgery? He knows that he will not contest unless Tinubu is disqualified.

If justice is truly upheld, Tinubu must be disqualified. There are six reasons he should be disqualified of which he cannot escape all:
1. His invalid nomination (failure to appoint a vice president within 14days of Masari's withdrawal)
2. Shettima's double nomination.
3. Forged certificates and fake NYSC
4. Perjury (he said he had no other citizenship but he had Guinean citizenship)
5. Dual citizenship
6. 460k dollars forfeited for crime
This your epistle is sooo.... long that it's a waste of time to read it.
Why do I say so?
Immediately I saw IREV as your first point, I knew it will be a waste of time.
IREV is not a primary source of evidence. It is secondary. Therefore, the courts cannot use it because it may have been tampered with. It's like telling a lie for so long that it's now seen as the truth. The source will tell the truth, so the sink cannot be guaranteed

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Re: PEPT: Tsammani's Tsunami Expected. by Spy360(m): 9:13pm On Aug 16, 2023
Enice:
This your epistle is sooo.... long that it's a waste of time to read it.
Why do I say so?
Immediately I saw IREV as your first point, I knew it will be a waste of time.
IREV is not a primary source of evidence. It is secondary. Therefore, the courts cannot use it because it may have been tampered with. It's like telling a lie for so long that it's now seen as the truth. The source will tell the truth, so the sink cannot be guaranteed
I wish you had taken the patience to read through. You are right to say that IREV is secondary source of data. If I may ask, what is the primary source? Secondly, if that source is disputed, what would be used for verification? We are back to IREV.

Now according to the SC judgement on Osun, upload to IREV is a key part of the electoral process because it takes place at the PU in real time. Also according to INEC guidelines as empowered by the Electoral Act, collation of results must be done after verification from IREV.

Hope this reply isn't too long.

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Re: PEPT: Tsammani's Tsunami Expected. by Enice(m): 9:27pm On Aug 16, 2023
Spy360:

I wish you had taken the patience to read through. You are right to say that IREV is secondary source of data. If I may ask, what is the primary source? Secondly, if that source is disputed, what would be used for verification? We are back to IREV.

Now according to the SC judgement on Osun, upload to IREV is a key part of the electoral process because it takes place at the PU in real time. Also according to INEC guidelines as empowered by the Electoral Act, collation of results must be done after verification from IREV.

Hope this reply isn't too long.
No!No!!No!!! We have three source of primary evidence. 1. INEC copies of EC8As 2. Agents copies 3. Police copies. IREV does not even come close.
Now answer this question! How do you determine if the picture from an IREV machine is a picture of a fake or original EC8A? You are only seeing the picture you don't know if the document from which it has been taken is forged or fake. You cannot scrutinise the document. It's what you see that you accept. Now, if there's a dispute, due to such, what would be used to resolve it?
Also, the courts has said that mistakes can arise from using the IREV. Mistake such as not snapping the correct picture as was the case in those blurred result.

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Re: PEPT: Tsammani's Tsunami Expected. by Burob: 9:52pm On Aug 16, 2023
Spy360:

The funny thing about Tinubu supporters is that they either didn't follow the proceedings or they deliberately closed their eyes to reality.

My brother, I tell you, if Obi lawyers didn't bury Tinubu in court, by now a judgement would have been out.

The petitioners case is just too strong.
What case? The election was won by APC, the day Judas Gringory Obi declared to contest against his Master Abubakar Atiku.

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Re: PEPT: Tsammani's Tsunami Expected. by Burob: 9:56pm On Aug 16, 2023
Spy360:

I wish you had taken the patience to read through. You are right to say that IREV is secondary source of data. If I may ask, what is the primary source? Secondly, if that source is disputed, what would be used for verification? We are back to IREV.

Now according to the SC judgement on Osun, upload to IREV is a key part of the electoral process because it takes place at the PU in real time. Also according to INEC guidelines as empowered by the Electoral Act, collation of results must be done after verification from IREV.

Hope this reply isn't too long.
Maybe you reside in Finland, maybe also around the small town Simon Ekpa lives in? If you reside in Nigeria, you should be conscious to know that Obi & Atiku are just wasting their time.

Even if you like record Tinubu & his supporters stuffing the ballot boxes, the tribunal will still declare him the winner, same as The Supreme Court of Nigeria.

Welcome to Nigeria, home of the fantastically corrupt, don’t know why you oblivious minded Obidients always choose to deceive yourselves?

Same way before the elections you were hailing BVAS, now it is the same Zoo Court that you despise, that you are looking to save you?
Re: PEPT: Tsammani's Tsunami Expected. by Spy360(m): 5:14am On Aug 17, 2023
Burob:
Maybe you reside in Finland, maybe also around the small town Simon Ekpa lives in? If you reside in Nigeria, you should be conscious to know that Obi & Atiku are just wasting their time.

Even if you like record Tinubu & his supporters stuffing the ballot boxes, the tribunal will still declare him the winner, same as The Supreme Court of Nigeria.

Welcome to Nigeria, home of the fantastically corrupt, don’t know why you oblivious minded Obidients always choose to deceive yourselves?

Same way before the elections you were hailing BVAS, now it is the same Zoo Court that you despise, that you are looking to save you?
I have not said any court will save me.
I only laid down the case with all its evidences.

Actually this government is favouring me. Seriously.
Re: PEPT: Tsammani's Tsunami Expected. by Spy360(m): 5:17am On Aug 17, 2023
Enice:
No!No!!No!!! We have three source of primary evidence. 1. INEC copies of EC8As 2. Agents copies 3. Police copies. IREV does not even come close.
Now answer this question! How do you determine if the picture from an IREV machine is a picture of a fake or original EC8A? You are only seeing the picture you don't know if the document from which it has been taken is forged or fake. You cannot scrutinise the document. It's what you see that you accept. Now, if there's a dispute, due to such, what would be used to resolve it?
Also, the courts has said that mistakes can arise from using the IREV. Mistake such as not snapping the correct picture as was the case in those blurred result.
You are outdated. Go and study the SC judgement on Osun. BVAS is an integral part of the election and is in fact a primary evidence.

Besides, let me ask you, why did INEC issue IREV to LP as certified and true copies of form EC8AS?
Re: PEPT: Tsammani's Tsunami Expected. by Enice(m): 8:50am On Aug 17, 2023
Spy360:

You are outdated. Go and study the SC judgement on Osun. BVAS is an integral part of the election and is in fact a primary evidence.

Besides, let me ask you, why did INEC issue IREV to LP as certified and true copies of form EC8AS?
Oga! Nobody is talking of BVAS here. Also, INEC gave LP what they requested for. LP specifically requested for those blurred IREV documents so as to use it as a means of proving their case.

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