This thread is for British politics considering there are nearly half a million Nigerians in the Uk. Feel free to join the debate even if you don't live in the UK but know what the topic is about.

1) The evidence are pointing to the parents of Madeiline McCann, what is your take on the issue. Are the police right to hound the McCanns out of Portugal because of their inefficiency? I personally think something dodgy happened to the little girl and the parents are not saying all they know.

2) What do you think of big brother UK? Did Brian desearve all the accolade he's getting? I mean he can't be as thick as he appears to be. If you were Brian would you ever have any thing to do with Nigeria or Nigerians considering your Nigerian parents abandoned you in London? Give me Charley any day, (I love that girl).

3) Half of the inmates at most London prisons are Nigerians even though we are less than 0.1 of the population. The new Nigerian "arrivees" are so 419, they expect to make a mint without working.

Feel free to start any topic with British bias. This thread is not restricted to those living in Britain only.

It's really hard to tell. We can't say yes, just incase it turns out they didn't and vice versa.

I only feel sorry for Maddy because her parents were negligent.

You're in a foreign country and you leave your child unattended.

DNA found in the boot of the car shows she was in there but we can't really draw conclusions for now.

I hope they didn't do it because you can imagine how angry and disappointed the public backing them will feel.

Brian from BB deserved to win. I'm happy for him.

I can understand why he doesn't want anything to do with his folks. From what I read, man, they're something else. But ''desperate situations call for desperate measures''. He can learn to forgive them, he doesn't have to live with them or anything. You can tell he really loves and appreciates his foster mom. As far as he's concerned, she's the only one who has really loved him. Remember, he hasn't really been successful in relationships. Lol.

I doubt he's as dumb as he appears. Come on, everyone knows who shakespear is!

1) The evidence are pointing to the parents of Madeiline McCann, what is your take on the issue. Are the police right to hound the McCanns out of Portugal because of their inefficiency? I personally think something dodgy happened to the little girl and the parents are not saying all they know.

what eveidence? her DNA was found in the car, so?


they didn't hound them out of Portugal, they already had plans to go to Britain before they were named as suspects and how did the Portuguese police become inefficient overnight? you've been watching too much British tv, they obviously don't respect the fact that other countries have different ways of dealing/solving crime.

wait and see

3) Nigerians are obviously hard-working and God fearing .

who cares, more kids die in sub-sahara africa.

and you know what, nobody even remember their names

Although, I never liked the way the McCanns went about things from the start, I still have no strong opinion on this. The point is that nothing concrete has been made known officially. All we have are rumours of leaked information. We have to wait and see what evidence they Police actually have against them. It does smell very fishy and I was suprised that the man was acting more like a movie star while the search was on for the child. He actively sought media attention for everything and now he is saying that he does not want media intrusion.

Why the sudden U turn after being named as a suspect?

They also actually wanted to remain in Portugal and suddenly, they get named as suspects and they rush back home.

Thank God the forensics were done in Birmingham, otherwise the British media would have discredited it. The British always discredit anything that is not from them or from America.

JustGood read my mind, I mean has any one seen the McCanns cry? What mother would lose a child and not weep. The British media has seen the case as them and us, hence there have not been a thorough search of the way the McCanns behaved. The forensics came from Birmingham so the British tabloid would soon have egg on their faces.
If it was an abductor, the youngest kid would have been taken not the 3yr old. Do not support these child killers, at the end their carefully masterminded facade would be exposed by forensics. Even their friends knows something but have remained muted.

@Dis Guy

what eveidence? her DNA was found in the car, so?

Why is their a 100% match in DNA in the car, 25 days after she died? Why does the parent always insist she was abducted, even after overwhelming evidence she died and was carried in that car? These people know something we don't know.

@naijacutee

As for Big Brother, it's all gone downhill from the Makosi series.

I never really liked Makosi, she lost her credibility when she said she was pregnant. She was a disgrace to African women in Britain, you wouldn't find Asian women behaving like that, see how dignified Shilpa Shetty was.

abeg make una no talk about that stinking makozi. she is a shame to every respectable African woman. How does any African woman allow herself to be used and start proclaiming that she had sex in front of cameras? The guy even denied having anything to do with such a dirty whoring girl. I cant blame the guy. Who would want his image tarnished by allegations of having sex with a shameless idiot?

I have never been a fan of Big Brother and I will never be. I like the way Asians seem to present themselves in public than the way the so-called black people behave themselves shamelessly for publicity.

I believe Big Brother is an extremely unserious programme people by people who are being used to amuse equally low-minded people who find amusement is a bunch of mostly uneducated people intent on making wealth by any possible means.

Britain is fast degenrating to a society of morons as many people now believe in being rich rather then being intelligent. Intelligence is what built Britain to become a Great Nation, we are at risk of losing that greatness with this degeneration of our minds and mentalities. If we are stupid enough to celebrate morons like Jade Goodie, our future is in jeooardy.

This McAnn thing does not need divine intervention to analyze.

Kate McAnn killed that little girl. Though the Portuguese Police are saying it was by mistake, they are only using that tactic to lure the parents into confession for light sentences.

I am certain that the little girl was a victim of carefully premeditated murder that started with the planning of the holiday to Portugal.

Simply by watching her first video appeal and studying the words, tone and body language, you'll know the woman is a fraud.

Whatever they planned to gain, I hope they get it.

denex:

This McAnn thing does not need divine intervention to analyze.

Kate McAnn killed that little girl. Though the Portuguese Police are saying it was by mistake, they are only using that tactic to lure the parents into confession for light sentences.

I am certain that the little girl was a victim of carefully premeditated murder that started with the planning of the holiday to Portugal.

Simply by watching her first video appeal and studying the words, tone and body language, you'll know the woman is a fraud.

Whatever they planned to gain, I hope they get it.

You do know that BOTH the McAnns are suspects for the missing Madeline.
Please dont say stuff that has no proof. Isnt is inocent until proven guilty.

I personally do not believe that the McAnns killed their child, yes DNA was found in the hired car, it could have got their easily.
I am not happy with the way the Portugese police are dealing with this case, they have been very slow and clumsy, how can u not do a DNA test on the hotel within the first 48 hours?
Yes i agree, the McAnns made a mistake by leaving her children unattended in a hotel, which is actually a villa! But, can you imagine how they must be feeling, knowing that this situation would not have happened if they had decided to use the hotel play scheme.

denex:

This McAnn thing does not need divine intervention to analyze.

Kate McAnn killed that little girl. Though the Portuguese Police are saying it was by mistake, they are only using that tactic to lure the parents into confession for light sentences.

I am certain that the little girl was a victim of carefully premeditated murder that started with the planning of the holiday to Portugal.

Simply by watching her first video appeal and studying the words, tone and body language, you'll know the woman is a fraud.

Whatever they planned to gain, I hope they get it.

It wil be better if none of them is accused of killing the girl.
As for those portuguese police dept.,they are hiding lots of info from the public but then,they aint making situation any easier.First,Kate was the prime suspect,now her husband has been included.
The DNA Evidence found in the car is a mystery because the car was hired 25 days after Maddy went missing.
First,it was blood they found,now it is hair. May God help them sha.

@nana
If the portuguese police release everything they know, then they stand the risk of
1. Prejudicing the trial judge before the trial
2. Givng away their best ammo to the defence lawyers


I believe the British media has done a very silly job of covering this issue. I mean, just because the whole case was publicised doesn't mean the woman may not be guilty.
The part i find terrible and a monumental scam is that the $2million find madeline fund collected by NGOs is being proposed for use in hiring a defence lawyer. people aound the world sent money to find a little girl, not to defend her potential killer. that's scam!

Buruntashi I have got to ask you if the figures you quoted regarding the grossly disproportionate number of Nigerians in UK jails are as written in your first post, or if that at was a typo.

If your data is accurate then it is indeed a truly astonishing revelation that Nigerians, who amount to less than 0.1 % of the UK general population,  also account for [size=18pt]50% of the UK jail population[/size], thanks to 419 fraud. 

Now there is a sobering statistic that ought to silence all the knee-jerk Nigerian patriots who keep insisting in the face of all contradictory evidence that  the West is out to exaggerate Nigerian's level of criminal involvement.

Its true Nigerians are all over jails abroad spoilling our good name.

Wow, so assuming the premise is accurate, for every 1000 UK residents averaged across the British Isles, ONE PERSON will statistically be a Nigerian immigrant, while for every 1000 convicted and jailed criminals in the UK, a whopping 500 will statistically be Nigerian immigrants. Talk about Nigerians being over-representation in the criminal arts. This one brings down the curtain.

The Mckan's abduction story is the stuff of movies, and is bound to become the subject matter of more than a few in coming years. Looking at the parents of the missing child as they tenderly cradle their two remaining kids under the paparazzi glare, they seem such implausible suspects in whatever happened to their daughter, but yet evidence mounts daily to suggest a hidden side to the seemingly distraught physician parents of missing toddler Madelin Mckan.

The outcome of this case will probably outdo events so far for sheer unpredictability.

@ Jakumo
Go an read Burantishi's post again. He says 50% of prisoners in LONDON prisons are Nigerians.

1. Enough with a dead 3 yr old. many children die in Africa and SE Asia in far worse circumstances. but anyway,I think they did it.

2. Well only an abandoned child can understand the young mans plight

3. when we realise that the white people are not foolish, the better for all of us.

@Jakumo

Nigerians make up far more than 1% the population of the UK. I was chatting online with my ex and I noticed her new picture so she revealed to me she was in London to spend a little time with her sister (another Nigerian).

My cousin Suleman is in Newcastle and his immediate younger sister just joined him.

My best friend Niyi has been in the UK since 1999 and all his 4 older siblings have been there since the 1980s.

My neighbour is in London, my stepbrother is in London with his entire family.

My ex, exgirlfriend came back from London last year to get a job here ( patriot chick). Only she, her youngest brother and momsie are in Nigeria. All her other siblings are in the UK.

I have several other friends in the UK and there's one planning to go there for a visit next year.

Nigerians and Indians keep flocking to the UK without calculating that our population is several times theirs. If half the population of Nigeria goes to the UK, their population would make them the majority ethnic group.

If half the population of Indian joins them there, the English would become an insignificant minority group.

So the British Government has to find a way of tackling this influx of foreigners that is about to overwhelm them.

By rejecting visa application no matter how genuine
By charging exhorbitant visa fees where they should be none
By regular deportation exercise even if for baseless reasons
By regular quarantine exercise to curb excesses.

So I don't find it difficult to believe that Nigerians make up a very high percentage of inmates in London correctional facilities. While Indians know how to go to a foreign country and play by the prevailing rules, Nigerians always want to "show themselves" and assume they have equal rights as the citizens over there.


As for the McAnn people, just leave them alone. I don't know what they are up to, but that Kate woman definitely killed the child. All you need to do is review the tape of her first public statement. There's something about her eyes, her concentration, even her posture and the fact that she was forgetting words and looking down at a paper.

Whose daughter would go missing and would require "expo" to make a brief public appeal?

As far as i am way the number of nigerian prisoners here in England and Wales is not upto 2000 compare to the 79,908 prisoners or more in England and Wales. Unless you mean just London as your post suggest.

As for the Mckanns the truth is not far, going by the DNA evidence it looks likely they are the culprit. I read from somewhere that Gerry is not the father of the Gyl, dont know how true it is but beleive me this case will open more can of worms. Sit back and watch before this week ends the truth must be known. I pity the little gyl.

@Jakumo

If your data is accurate then it is indeed a truly astonishing revelation that Nigerians, who amount to less than 0.1 % of the UK general population, also account for 50% of the UK jail population, thanks to 419 fraud.

I don't know how you got your "50% of the UK jail population" quote from. Its clearly marked in bold in my post that I meant "London", and 90% of the Nigerians in the UK live in London. I had the misfortune of visiting a friend in prison recently and shocked at the number of Nigerians there. I was also informed by my friend who has been in (various detention) awaiting trial, that this is reflected London wide. I have no British govt data neither do you, if and when you are able to provide current data, I think we should leave the matter alone.

I read from somewhere that Gerry is not the father of the Gyl, don't know how true it is but beleive me this case will open more can of worms

I also heard this rumour that Gerry is not the father. This looks like a carefully orchestrated murder, and am still waiting to see Kate who lost a daughter cry. A real mother would weep inconsolably for leaving her kids alone while tucking into lobster and opening the finest Montrachef. Most women would blame themselves for the rest of their lives, except this woman. She has shown no emotion from day one.
If she's so innocent why is she refusing to answer some of the questions put to her by the Portuguese police? I hear the British police will be putting same questions to her this week. Why are they still allowed to keep the rest of their children? Is it because they are doctors?

The archbishop of York, John Sentamu, is now supporting the McCanns because they visited his parish and had a discussion with him. Richard Branson is also raising money for their court case. The fact that they had an audience with Richard Branson and they decided that they would need lots of money for their defence in court suggests they know that there is strong evidence against them.

I beleive they are still innocent, until proven guilty but it smells badly.

The British media seems to be in a frenzy now because the super millionaire Richard Branson is now supporting the McCanns: such is the British media attitude that they will jump at anything supported by a known celebrity or public personality. I wont be suprised if more and more celebrities start jumping to the defence of the suspects.

To those who are trying to hound the Portuguese police, Portugal has it's own laws with regards to policing and they have not officially released any detail of their findings save to say that the McCanns are official suspects. Not every country has to handle things the same way the British handle their own and every country has a right to do things according to their own unique laws without being pressured by the British media into doing what is not right.

Please, do not allow Richard Branson hear you calling him a millionaire. The man is Seven and Half times a billionaire.

These McAnn people should come out and confess now when they have messed things up real bad but not too bad.

Can you imagine they used Pope Benedict and even David Beckham all in a bid to feign innocent. People will be very angry when they finally turn out to be guilty so it's better they stop this act now. They shouldn't throw away their opportunity to plea bargain because then, they'll be looking at decades in prison.

denex:

@Jakumo

Nigerians make up far more than 1% the population of the UK. I was chatting online with my ex and I noticed her new picture so she revealed to me she was in London to spend a little time with her sister (another Nigerian).

My cousin Suleman is in Newcastle and his immediate younger sister just joined him.

My best friend Niyi has been in the UK since 1999 and all his 4 older siblings have been there since the 1980s.

My neighbour is in London, my stepbrother is in London with his entire family.

My ex, exgirlfriend came back from London last year to get a job here ( patriot chick). Only she, her youngest brother and momsie are in Nigeria. All her other siblings are in the UK.

I have several other friends in the UK and there's one planning to go there for a visit next year.

Nigerians and Indians keep flocking to the UK without calculating that our population is several times theirs. If half the population of Nigeria goes to the UK, their population would make them the majority ethnic group.

If half the population of Indian joins them there, the English would become an insignificant minority group.

So the British Government has to find a way of tackling this influx of foreigners that is about to overwhelm them.

By rejecting visa application no matter how genuine
By charging exhorbitant visa fees where they should be none
By regular deportation exercise even if for baseless reasons
By regular quarantine exercise to curb excesses.

So I don't find it difficult to believe that Nigerians make up a very high percentage of inmates in London correctional facilities. While Indians know how to go to a foreign country and play by the prevailing rules, Nigerians always want to "show themselves" and assume they have equal rights as the citizens over there.


As for the McAnn people, just leave them alone. I don't know what they are up to, but that Kate woman definitely killed the child. All you need to do is review the tape of her first public statement. There's something about her eyes, her concentration, even her posture and the fact that she was forgetting words and looking down at a paper.

Whose daughter would go missing and would require "expo" to make a brief public appeal?

It seems that everyone you know is in the UK, sometimes u seem very arrogant by the way you post, so your now a mind reader, just by the way someone pustures themselves they are definitley a murderer, shame on you to judge some1 by their 'appearance'.
You do know that majority of the Indians in the UK came during the 1950's?

You're so polite the way you post. And yes I read peoples minds by their body language and I'm not the only one that does it.

What difference does it make if all the Indians in the UK flocked there in 1761?

@Denex

It is ultimately the fault of the develped countries that many of us flock
there anyway. Much of the fruits of corruption are locked up in the vaults of their
banks.

They are co conspirators in the imbalances in world development so make dem no dey complain.
If they dont like it, they had better speed up their Mars Exploration.

And even then, I will seek asylum there.

Nigerians in prison number in the hundreds(I believe something like700),hence unless there are only about 1000 to 2000 prisoners in the whole of London,I wonder how it can be said we constitute a majority

@doyin13

well, I remember that they entered our country in the 1800s without visas or even seeking asylum or refugee status and they took our food free of charge and even taxed us again on that for close to 70 years.

I wish they could be as patient as we were.

Who else could have done it?

Perhaps the Portuguese Police.