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People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by TenQ: 12:34pm On Dec 21, 2023
This is the courageous woman who exposed the Islamic lie that their is ONLY one Arabic Qur'an. She alone fished out over 30 different Arabic Qur'ans.

She had been active on Speakers Corner UK before being stabbed as she preached to convince Muslims not to fanatically follow lies and deceptions of Islam thinking it will lead them to paradise.

Speak to your brothers who think they do Allah a beautiful service of Jihad by eliminating her.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pREwJ8-ORIk&si=kzEp0j1u3xkg6AMu


She was a Muslim before her eyes were opened to Jesus Christ!

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Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by gaskiyamagana: 3:22pm On Dec 21, 2023
TenQ:
This is the courageous woman who exposed the Islamic lie that their is ONLY one Arabic Qur'an. She alone fished out over 30 different Arabic Qur'ans.

She had been active on Speakers Corner UK before being stabbed as she preached to convince Muslims not to fanatically follow lies and deceptions of Islam thinking it will lead them to paradise. Of


Speak to your brothers who think they do Allah a beautiful service of Jihad by eliminating her.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=pREwJ8-ORIk&si=kzEp0j1u3xkg6AMu


She was a Muslim before her eyes were opened to Jesus Christ!

All my Friends on Nairaland:
LegalWolf Vanessa7 AntiChristian Empiree, Rash4ductluv, BabaHeekmat, aekymbahd, motayoayinde, drlateef, Thatfairguy1, MrCodeSolo , Hisbah21, atsleepboy1 , Lordmoh , OBALOLA55, x123xlolls , Lukuluku69 , mhmsadyq, Ibsaq , Herkeym001 , Sulasa07 , hakeemhakeem , abduljabbar4 ,olaalekan ,Friend22 , uthlaw , Exc2000 , AbuTwins ,Akhirastriver ,Akinbahm , Sino , KayB , youngdroly , jaggabban , ukeleh , Realismailakabir , Bami8064 Greatgr , Gaskiyamagana , compton11, Alfarouq , MrCodeSolo Satmaniac saintHot, drlateef, Donkmore Akinbahm , IMEI , FATHAT , talk2hb1 , iamrealdeji , Encyclopedia1 , SWATMan rolams aheeqilmaktoom , Bintdawood , Flanker , Raheeqilmaktoom , rolams ,honesttalk21 , Negroid001 , Nvestor02 , Coolsat, iamrealdeji madridguy Almunjid MohammadSAW , STRI1 Explore2xmore satmaniac Ohyoudidnt , 4islam ThatFairGuy1 BroOptimist. Bakrabas. Musa95 Ibrahimlagosian Explore2xmore
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The each of difference Bibles we have has different Christian organizations as author, with different names. Until you do this about different Qur'an, you are only deceiving yourself.
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by TenQ: 4:02pm On Dec 21, 2023
gaskiyamagana:

The each of difference Bibles we have has different Christian organizations as author, with different names. Until you do this about different Qur'an, you are only deceiving yourself.
You said Allah dictated the Qur'an through Jibril to Mohammed.

You said the Qur'an of Mohammed is a copy of the Quran in heaven.

Did you not say there is only one Arabic Qur'an?

Tell me please:
Of the 30+ Arabic Qur'an, which one is the original Qur'an in heaven.

Is it Hafs Qur'an?
Is it Warsh Qur'an?
Is it....?

Which one?
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by Tetraozonaitera: 5:24pm On Dec 21, 2023
TenQ:

You said Allah dictated the Qur'an through Jibril to Mohammed.

You said the Qur'an of Mohammed is a copy of the Quran in heaven.

Did you not say there is only one Arabic Qur'an?

Tell me please:
Of the 30+ Arabic Qur'an, which one is the original Qur'an in heaven.

Is it Hafs Qur'an?
Is it Warsh Qur'an?
Is it....?

Which one?

Quran was formed out of the Old testament and the New.

The writer of Quran added his own words bending the stories to suit himself.
He took his time to use the excerpts of these Jewish books to create another book.
He must have spent years to create his own version.

The Quran didn't come from the living God. It was written by a man.

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Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by Qasim6(m): 6:14pm On Dec 21, 2023
TenQ:
This is the courageous woman who exposed the Islamic lie that their is ONLY one Arabic Qur'an. She alone fished out over 30 different Arabic Qur'ans.

She had been active on Speakers Corner UK before being stabbed as she preached to convince Muslims not to fanatically follow lies and deceptions of Islam thinking it will lead them to paradise.

Speak to your brothers who think they do Allah a beautiful service of Jihad by eliminating her.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=pREwJ8-ORIk&si=kzEp0j1u3xkg6AMu


She was a Muslim before her eyes were opened to Jesus Christ!

All my Friends on Nairaland:
LegalWolf Vanessa7 AntiChristian Empiree, Rash4ductluv, BabaHeekmat, aekymbahd, motayoayinde, drlateef, Thatfairguy1, MrCodeSolo , Hisbah21, atsleepboy1 , Lordmoh , OBALOLA55, x123xlolls , Lukuluku69 , mhmsadyq, Ibsaq , Herkeym001 , Sulasa07 , hakeemhakeem , abduljabbar4 ,olaalekan ,Friend22 , uthlaw , Exc2000 , AbuTwins ,Akhirastriver ,Akinbahm , Sino , KayB , youngdroly , jaggabban , ukeleh , Realismailakabir , Bami8064 Greatgr , Gaskiyamagana , compton11, Alfarouq , MrCodeSolo Satmaniac saintHot, drlateef, Donkmore Akinbahm , IMEI , FATHAT , talk2hb1 , iamrealdeji , Encyclopedia1 , SWATMan rolams aheeqilmaktoom , Bintdawood , Flanker , Raheeqilmaktoom , rolams ,honesttalk21 , Negroid001 , Nvestor02 , Coolsat, iamrealdeji madridguy Almunjid MohammadSAW , STRI1 Explore2xmore satmaniac Ohyoudidnt , 4islam ThatFairGuy1 BroOptimist. Bakrabas. Musa95 Ibrahimlagosian Explore2xmore
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You will need to name the 30s and point out their differences so we can refute or accept them accordingly.

I learned they canonised a fictional Book of Esther in your holey forgery Bible, Are you not supposed to be worried about that?

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Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by TenQ: 6:47pm On Dec 21, 2023
Qasim6:


You will need to name the 30s so we can refute or accept them accordingly.
Do I need to!?
I have at least two in my phone.

I have the Arabic Warsh Qur'an
and I have the Arabic Hafs Qur'an

The 30 plus Qur'ans you will find here if you are brave enough to watch it



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y7eWEjBBw4&si=rQJUXZcEqR7ca9KO



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYxxQQoYusI?si=ASsidCtuNOI2yBTf



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYxxQQoYusI&si=fcPiSI_2B5-HJk92




Which one of the Hafs or the Warsh Qur'an is the Quran of Allah?






Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by TenQ: 6:59pm On Dec 21, 2023
Tetraozonaitera:


Quran was formed out of the Old testament and the New.

The writer of Quran added his own words bending the stories to suit himself.
He took his time to use the excerpts of these Jewish books to create another book.
He must have spent years to create his own version.

The Quran didn't come from the living God. It was written by a man.
Of course the Qur'an is the work of men.

The Almighty God certainly know that
1. Semen/Sperm does not become a baby
2. Women do not have reproductive fluids from their top rib bones
3. The sun doesn't set in some murky waters
4. King Solomon died and no one discovered until almost a full year
5. King Solomon and his magic carpet and magic ring
6. Even Alexander the Great was a prophet of Allah in the Qur'an.

The list is endless.

Yet these people will kill to uphold Mohammed who is the Deputy Allah.
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by Qasim6(m): 7:02pm On Dec 21, 2023
TenQ:

Do I need to!?
I have at least two in my phone.

I have the Arabic Warsh Qur'an
and I have the Arabic Hafs Qur'an

The 30 plus Qur'ans you will find here if you are brave enough to watch it



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y7eWEjBBw4&si=rQJUXZcEqR7ca9KO



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYxxQQoYusI?si=ASsidCtuNOI2yBTf



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYxxQQoYusI&si=fcPiSI_2B5-HJk92




Which one of the Hafs or the Warsh Qur'an is the Quran of Allah?







So be kind enough to point out the difference between the hafs and warsh since you have them on your phone.

Seriously, you are sending Jay smith Videos?

Is jay Smith a scholar of Quran?
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by TenQ: 7:17pm On Dec 21, 2023
Qasim6:


So be kind enough to point out the difference between the hafs and warsh since you have them on your phone.

Seriously, you are sending Jay smith Videos?

Is jay Smith a scholar of Quran?
You will only believe your lying scholars!?

Unfortunately, I don't have the strength to be pointing out differences between the Warsh and Hafs Qur'an. On this for now Google is your friend if satan will leave you briefly to adopt the truth.

Here is Muhammad Hijab speaking about variation of the Qur'an

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/la_EJIQp6yo?si=-Qc1yUvJf1K2v7hg

Here is Shirby Ali also acknowledging this in his usual sly manner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09u30tqbZmg&si=C9-e-i_aYPy1JLhP



Here is Hatun Tash showing you the differences in your Quran


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQBPfiEELBE&si=1lFB4PRzLce-2xuj
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by Qasim6(m): 7:20pm On Dec 21, 2023
TenQ:

You will only believe your lying scholars!?

Unfortunately, I don't have the strength to be pointing out differences between the Warsh and Hafs Qur'an. On this for now Google is your friend if satan will leave you briefly to adopt the truth.

Here is Muhammad Hijab speaking about variation of the Qur'an

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/la_EJIQp6yo?si=-Qc1yUvJf1K2v7hg

Here is Hatun Tash showing you the differences in your Quran


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQBPfiEELBE&si=1lFB4PRzLce-2xuj

You see how smart you are
There are non-muslim scholar of Quran.
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by TenQ: 7:25pm On Dec 21, 2023
Qasim6:


You see how smart you are
There are non-muslim scholar of Quran.
Check the post above.

I have shown you Shirby Ali and Mohammed Hijab: of course you wouldn't watch the videos
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by Qasim6(m): 7:38pm On Dec 21, 2023
TenQ:

Check the post above.

I have shown you Shirby Ali and Mohammed Hijab: of course you wouldn't watch the videos

Why should I watch all the videos
I watch the first one and it is load of craps as expected.

I don't know Qurans having different back cover translate to having different Qur'an.

Be kind enough to share with us one or two differences in the two you have on your phone.
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by TenQ: 7:44pm On Dec 21, 2023
Qasim6:


So be kind enough to point out the difference between the hafs and warsh since you have them on your phone.

Seriously, you are sending Jay smith Videos?

Is jay Smith a scholar of Quran?

I guess you should open the Arabic Warsh and Hafs Qur'an and thus explain the differences in these verses

Quran 2:125
Hafs: watakhizu (you shall take)
Warsh: watakhazu (they have taken)

Quran 2:140
Hafs: taquluna (You say)
Warsh: yaquluna (They say)

Quran 2:184
Hafs: miskeenin (poor person
Warsh: masakeena (poor people)

Quran 3:146
Hafs: qatala (fought)
Warsh: qutila (was killed)

Quran 40:26
Hafs: aw an (or that)
Warsh: wa an (and that)

Quran 43:19
Hafs: ibaad (slaves)
Warsh: inda (with)



If you don't have the Warsh Qur'an, please download one from the Google Playstore

Note that All these change in meaning is from the Arabic Qur'an. Change of Language (Linguistic Variations or Differences) must not change the meaning of a SENTENCE : Should it?


So my brother,
While the standard Islamic Narratives paint perfect picture of Islam to you Muslims, there are so many underlining LIES and MISINFORMATION within it.
Why do you think Poison is mixed with good food? Is it not to kill the unsuspecting prey?



Qasim6:


Why should I watch all the videos
I watch the first one and it is load of craps as expected.

I don't know Qurans having different back cover translate to having different Qur'an.

Be kind enough to share with us one or two differences in the two you have on your phone.
I have helped you out sir: there are zero differences as shown above just between Warsh and Hafs Qur'an
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by AbuTwins: 8:59pm On Dec 21, 2023
Qasim6:


You will need to name the 30s and point out their differences so we can refute or accept them accordingly.

I learned they canonised a fictional Book of Esther in your holey forgery Bible, Are you not supposed to be worried about that?

No mind the Galatians 3:1 guy. How many different translations and different Bible them get?

They are looking for who to join them!
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by TenQ: 9:51pm On Dec 21, 2023
AbuTwins:


No mind the Galatians 3:1 guy. How many different translations and different Bible them get?

They are looking for who to join them!
Hello Sir
Don't put your mouth in what you know nothing about.

I am not speaking of English translations of the Qur'an. I am talking of the ARABIC Qur'an written in the language of Allah.

The question remain :
How come they are different?
Which one of them is the exact copy of the Qur'an in heaven?


As per English translation of the Qur'an , you know they are up to 60 English translations of the Qur'an.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_translations_of_the_Quran
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by Ohyoudidnt: 10:44pm On Dec 21, 2023
TenQ:
This is the courageous woman who exposed the Islamic lie that their is ONLY one Arabic Qur'an. She alone fished out over 30 different Arabic Qur'ans.

She had been active on Speakers Corner UK before being stabbed as she preached to convince Muslims not to fanatically follow lies and deceptions of Islam thinking it will lead them to paradise.

Speak to your brothers who think they do Allah a beautiful service of Jihad by eliminating her.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pREwJ8-ORIk&si=kzEp0j1u3xkg6AMu


She was a Muslim before her eyes were opened to Jesus Christ!

All my Friends on Nairaland:
LegalWolf Vanessa7 AntiChristian Empiree, Rash4ductluv, BabaHeekmat, aekymbahd, motayoayinde, drlateef, Thatfairguy1, MrCodeSolo , Hisbah21, atsleepboy1 , Lordmoh , OBALOLA55, x123xlolls , Lukuluku69 , mhmsadyq, Ibsaq , Herkeym001 , Sulasa07 , hakeemhakeem , abduljabbar4 ,olaalekan ,Friend22 , uthlaw , Exc2000 , AbuTwins ,Akhirastriver ,Akinbahm , Sino , KayB , youngdroly , jaggabban , ukeleh , Realismailakabir , Bami8064 Greatgr , Gaskiyamagana , compton11, Alfarouq , MrCodeSolo Satmaniac saintHot, drlateef, Donkmore Akinbahm , IMEI , FATHAT , talk2hb1 , iamrealdeji , Encyclopedia1 , SWATMan rolams aheeqilmaktoom , Bintdawood , Flanker , Raheeqilmaktoom , rolams ,honesttalk21 , Negroid001 , Nvestor02 , Coolsat, iamrealdeji madridguy Almunjid MohammadSAW , STRI1 Explore2xmore satmaniac Ohyoudidnt , 4islam ThatFairGuy1 BroOptimist. Bakrabas. Musa95 Ibrahimlagosian Explore2xmore
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Why do you ask here? Is Nairaland the proper forum to inquire about people who get missing in UK? Have you found all the missing people in Nigeria?

Do you find missing people of London on nairaland or make reports here?

Direct this question of yours to Dr David Wood, the DCCI ministeries or the London Metropolitan Police, your contacts in the UK or people that can provide reasonable information.

You sure can direct your intellect and wisdom proficiently or are you overwhelmed by the return of nairaland?

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Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by Ohyoudidnt: 11:00pm On Dec 21, 2023
TenQ:


I guess you should open the Arabic Warsh and Hafs Qur'an and thus explain the differences in these verses

Quran 2:125
Hafs: watakhizu (you shall take)
Warsh: watakhazu (they have taken)

Quran 2:140
Hafs: taquluna (You say)
Warsh: yaquluna (They say)

Quran 2:184
Hafs: miskeenin (poor person
Warsh: masakeena (poor people)

Quran 3:146
Hafs: qatala (fought)
Warsh: qutila (was killed)

Quran 40:26
Hafs: aw an (or that)
Warsh: wa an (and that)

Quran 43:19
Hafs: ibaad (slaves)
Warsh: inda (with)



If you don't have the Warsh Qur'an, please download one from the Google Playstore

Note that All these change in meaning is from the Arabic Qur'an. Change of Language (Linguistic Variations or Differences) must not change the meaning of a SENTENCE : Should it?


So my brother,
While the standard Islamic Narratives paint perfect picture of Islam to you Muslims, there are so many underlining LIES and MISINFORMATION within it.
Why do you think Poison is mixed with good food? Is it not to kill the unsuspecting prey?




I have helped you out sir: there are zero differences as shown above just between Warsh and Hafs Qur'an

Always repeating the same skewed arguments. Take Quran 2:125
Based on your identified variations do tell what difference in the meaning exists in these two sentences:

And [mention] when We made the House a place of return for the people and [a place of] security. And take [O believers], from the standing place of Abraham a place of prayer. And We charged Abraham and Ishmael, [saying], "Purify My House for those who perform Tawaf and those who are staying [there] for worship and those who bow and prostrate [in prayer]


And [mention] when We made the House a place of return for the people and [a place of] security. And they [O believers] have taken, from the standing place of Abraham a place of prayer. And We charged Abraham and Ishmael, [saying], "Purify My House for those who perform Tawaf and those who are staying [there] for worship and those who bow and prostrate [in prayer]

Kindly display your intellect and astounding intelligence in pointing out definite difference in their meaning.

When you're done tell please why the same message can be passed with sentences having slightly different number of words. Does one provide better clarity in some cases?

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Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by TenQ: 4:19am On Dec 22, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:


Always repeating the same skewed arguments. Take Quran 2:125
Based on your identified variations do tell what difference in the meaning exists in these two sentences:

And [mention] when We made the House a place of return for the people and [a place of] security. And take [O believers], from the standing place of Abraham a place of prayer. And We charged Abraham and Ishmael, [saying], "Purify My House for those who perform Tawaf and those who are staying [there] for worship and those who bow and prostrate [in prayer]


And [mention] when We made the House a place of return for the people and [a place of] security. And they [O believers] have taken, from the standing place of Abraham a place of prayer. And We charged Abraham and Ishmael, [saying], "Purify My House for those who perform Tawaf and those who are staying [there] for worship and those who bow and prostrate [in prayer]

Kindly display your intellect and astounding intelligence in pointing out definite difference in their meaning.

When you're done tell please why the same message can be passed with sentences having slightly different number of words. Does one provide better clarity in some cases?
Thanks for acknowledging that you noticed at least one difference in the spoken word of Allah in the Qur'an only that they have same meaning

Without even going to the Arabic and merely using your translations of Quran 2:125, are you telling me that

And take = And the have taken

mean exactly the same thing! ?


Even your translators help you to establish the difference:

The first:
And take : addressed to Mohammed and SINGULAR

The second:
And they have taken: addressed to believers and PLURAL

Questions :
1. Which of these two did Allah TRULY said in the Qur'an?
2. Which one of these is written EXACTLY in the kitab of the Qur'an in paradise?
3. Who was Allah addressing in the two different Arabic Qur'ans 2:125?



You can see how you have demonstrated clearly to everyone that Qur'an 2:125 says different thing in Arabic!


cc:
AbuTwins :
Qasim6 : you asked the question
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by TenQ: 4:26am On Dec 22, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:




Why do you ask here? Is Nairaland the proper forum to inquire about people who get missing in UK? Have you found all the missing people in Nigeria?

Do you find missing people of London on nairaland or make reports here?

Direct this question of yours to Dr David Wood, the DCCI ministeries or the London Metropolitan Police, your contacts in the UK or people that can provide reasonable information.

You sure can direct your intellect and wisdom proficiently or are you overwhelmed by the return of nairaland?










I asked so that you can either rejoice or tell your Mujahideen in UK to release Hatun Tash (the woman who singlehandedly exposed over 30 different ARABIC Qur'ans, bought each copy and displayed them live to you Muslims at speakers corner) while also showing you live the differences.
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by AbuTwins: 7:08am On Dec 22, 2023
TenQ:

Hello Sir
Don't put your mouth in what you know nothing about.
I don't know nothing about it. grin So na you know something about it?

Na holy spirit teach you?

I am not speaking of English translations of the Qur'an. I am talking of the ARABIC Qur'an written in the language of Allah.

I know! The translations of the Qur'an is based on the choice of word of the translator in relation with the setting. The Bible KJV has many chapters /verses not in other translations.

In some translations, some verses are removed while they are present in some others!

The question remain :
How come they are different?
Which one of them is the exact copy of the Qur'an in heaven?

As per English translation of the Qur'an , you know they are up to 60 English translations of the Qur'an.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_translations_of_the_Quran
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The are seven styles of reciting the Qur'an!
The Qur’an was revealed in one style at the beginning, but the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) kept asking Jibreel until he taught him seven styles, all of which were complete. The evidence for that is the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Abbaas who narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Jibreel taught me one style and I reviewed it until he taught me more, and I kept asking him for more and he gave me more until finally there were seven styles.”
(narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3047; Muslim, 819)

So your Bible translations have chapters and verses removed and added at will even the copyists did a whack job in recopying the Bible while the Qur'an has the seven styles revealed!
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by TenQ: 7:14am On Dec 22, 2023
AbuTwins:
I don't know nothing about it. grin So na you know something about it?

Na holy spirit teach you?



I know! The translations of the Qur'an is based on the choice of word of the translator in relation with the setting. The Bible KJV has many chapters /verses not in other translations.

In some translations, some verses are removed while they are present in some others!



The are seven styles of reciting the Qur'an!
The Qur’an was revealed in one style at the beginning, but the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) kept asking Jibreel until he taught him seven styles, all of which were complete. The evidence for that is the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Abbaas who narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Jibreel taught me one style and I reviewed it until he taught me more, and I kept asking him for more and he gave me more until finally there were seven styles.”
(narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3047; Muslim, 819)

So your Bible translations have chapters and verses removed and added at will even the copyists did a whack job in recopying the Bible while the Qur'an has the seven styles revealed!
Muslims can lie for satan.

You say Qur'an is recited in seven ways: Can you explain how truthful Islamic claims are!

After the death of the Islamic Prophet, Muhammad, Uthman commissioned a committee to produce ONE standard copy of the text of the Quran

How did ONE standard text multiply to over 30?
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by MightySparrow: 7:25am On Dec 22, 2023
Hello my friend, TenQ.

God punish the devil for the Nairaland that was down for these days. It really affected the good works you are doing in exposing the lies of Islam ( Lielam)

They will Always need boldface to cover lies of Lielam.
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by AbuTwins: 8:16am On Dec 22, 2023
TenQ:

Muslims can lie for satan.

You say Qur'an is recited in seven ways: Can you explain how truthful Islamic claims are!

After the death of the Islamic Prophet, Muhammad, Uthman commissioned a committee to produce ONE standard copy of the text of the Quran

How did ONE standard text multiply to over 30?

The uthmani text without the diacritical marks accommodates some of the styles.

Where are the lies?
Open up that you're ignorant!

And what about the Bible chapters and verses removed and added in the Bible translations?

What about all the copyist errors in your Bible?

Why are you silent about that?
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by Ohyoudidnt: 8:40am On Dec 22, 2023
TenQ:

Thanks for acknowledging that you noticed at least one difference in the spoken word of Allah in the Qur'an only that they have same meaning

Without even going to the Arabic and merely using your translations of Quran 2:125, are you telling me that

And take = And the have taken

mean exactly the same thing! ?


Even your translators help you to establish the difference:

The first:
And take : addressed to Mohammed and SINGULAR

The second:
And they have taken: addressed to believers and PLURAL

Questions :
1. Which of these two did Allah TRULY said in the Qur'an?
2. Which one of these is written EXACTLY in the kitab of the Qur'an in paradise?
3. Who was Allah addressing in the two different Arabic Qur'ans 2:125?



You can see how you have demonstrated clearly to everyone that Qur'an 2:125 says different thing in Arabic!


cc:
AbuTwins :
Qasim6 : you asked the question

Does addresing 2 or more people in an audience with the phrase and take speak to just one person?

Show your intelligence and explain.

Especially in the context of the entire verse not cherry picking a word or two in the sentence. How has it altered the message of the sentence.

Don't worry you can publish a thesis and post in full highlighting proof of the argument. Not everyone can identify with your YouTube videos.

Your problem is that you arrogantly want to determine how, when and where but Allah has surpassed the narrow thought you present. A lot like an old advert I remember of probably Sterling bank that has 1 customer.

* Also it annoys you that the prophet sent to all not just his people is not an Israelite. Sorry you folk of an acclaimed superior Israelite tribe.

The 1 customer in the market, school, office etc. in which there a personalised interaction with individuals in the general group it provides service for.

Indeed every one will give account for his or herself not another.

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Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by Ohyoudidnt: 8:45am On Dec 22, 2023
TenQ:

I asked so that you can either rejoice or tell your Mujahideen in UK to release Hatun Tash (the woman who singlehandedly exposed over 30 different ARABIC Qur'ans, bought each copy and displayed them live to you Muslims at speakers corner) while also showing you live the differences.


Unfortunately we are not swelled by this. Why rejoice at another's mishap?

Are you certain she didn't pull an Agatha Cristie?
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by TenQ: 9:16am On Dec 22, 2023
AbuTwins:


The uthmani text without the diacritical marks accommodates some of the styles.

Where are the lies?
Open up that you're ignorant!

Isn't it true you Muslims claim that the Qur'an is a RECITATION?

If it is a recitation, diacritical marks do not matter at all as ALL Muslims will recite exactly the same thing and write the same diacritical marks.


AbuTwins:

And what about the Bible chapters and verses removed and added in the Bible translations?

What about all the copyist errors in your Bible?

Why are you silent about that?
We Christians never claimed that God wrote or dictated the bible. We Christians did not claim that there is an original bible in heaven that needs preservation. There is even not a single scripture that promises to protect the Bible. The Bible is a Chronicle of the dealings of God with His people and the consequences of their actions and inactions that we who read NOW can Learn Wisdom and RIGHTEOUSNESS.

You Muslims made claims that we are finding as LIES.

1. Who rearranged the chapters in the Qur'an? Was it Allah or Jibril or Mohammed?
Is this not a CHANGE from the original?
2. Where is the verse on STONING and Breastfeeding of Adult males in the Qur'an?
Is it not deleted?
3. Why is it that you claim the existence of ONE perfect Arabic Qur'an with a copy in heaven BUT now we show you several Arabic Qur'ans :
You asked for TWO evidences of the difference between Hafs and Warsh Qur'ans and I have given you SIX which he of course I expect you to verify.

Apart from this above:
It seems like you modern Muslims are more knowledgeable than both Allah and Mohammed as they Both attest to the Bible we have with us.

1. Is Allah lying as: No man can change the words of Allah” (Q 6:34)
2. Is this another Taqqiya of Allah as : “if you are in doubt about what We have sent down to you, ask those who read the Book before you” (Q 10:94).
3. Clearly your prophet was telling lies as he said: , ‘We believe in that which has been revealed to us [the Quran] and revealed to you [the Bible]; our God and Your God is One, and to Him we have surrendered’” (Q 29:46).
4. Is Mohammed (or Allah) a lying prophet as he said:
“And how should they [the Jews] make you [O Muhammad] a judge, while with them is the Torah, in which is Allah’s judgment? Surely, We sent down the Torah containing guidance and light” (Q 5:43,44).


I am happy you know better than both Allah and his messanger!
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by TenQ: 9:24am On Dec 22, 2023
MightySparrow:
Hello my friend, TenQ.

God punish the devil for the Nairaland that was down for these days. It really affected the good works you are doing in exposing the lies of Islam ( Lielam)

They will Always need boldface to cover lies of Lielam.

Thank you my brother.

I had been busy lately and I just saw that Hatun Tash is missing. She exposed the multiple Arabic Qur'an in existence. They tried to kill her twice at the speaker's corner in UK!

I pray that God uses us to break down the walls of deception of Islam and set the captives free in Jesus name
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by TenQ: 12:54pm On Dec 22, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:



Unfortunately we are not swelled by this. Why rejoice at another's mishap?

Are you certain she didn't pull an Agatha Cristie?

Shouldn't you rejoice when Jihad is successfully done for Allah!?

Because this woman singlehandedly exposed over 30 different ARABIC Qur'ans, bought each copy and displayed them live to you Muslims at speakers corner) while also showing you live the differences Muslims have attempted to kill her times again.
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by Ohyoudidnt: 2:41pm On Dec 22, 2023
TenQ:

Shouldn't you rejoice when Jihad is successfully done for Allah!?

Because this woman singlehandedly exposed over 30 different ARABIC Qur'ans, bought each copy and displayed them live to you Muslims at speakers corner) while also showing you live the differences Muslims have attempted to kill her times again.


Kindly define Jihad and explain what it's about.
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by TenQ: 6:02pm On Dec 22, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:



Kindly define Jihad and explain what it's about.
Who am I as who can define Jihad better than Allah and his apostle?
Qur'an 2:246
Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.


Qur'an 9:14
Fight then O believers, the idolaters, so that Allah may punish them by your hands by you killing, humiliating, defeating and capturing them. He also wants to help you making you overcome the idolaters and to heal the hearts of a believing people who had not seen fighting, through the believers killing, capturing, defeating and overcoming their enemies.
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by TenQ: 6:05pm On Dec 22, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:


Does addresing 2 or more people in an audience with the phrase and take speak to just one person?

Show your intelligence and explain.

Especially in the context of the entire verse not cherry picking a word or two in the sentence. How has it altered the message of the sentence.

Don't worry you can publish a thesis and post in full highlighting proof of the argument. Not everyone can identify with your YouTube videos.

Your problem is that you arrogantly want to determine how, when and where but Allah has surpassed the narrow thought you present. A lot like an old advert I remember of probably Sterling bank that has 1 customer.

* Also it annoys you that the prophet sent to all not just his people is not an Israelite. Sorry you folk of an acclaimed superior Israelite tribe.

The 1 customer in the market, school, office etc. in which there a personalised interaction with individuals in the general group it provides service for.

Indeed every one will give account for his or herself not another.
1. What exactly did Jibril dictate to Mohammed of the two verses?

2. Which of the two verses is in the Qur'an in paradise?

This is the question!

One verse refers to Mohammed and the other refer to you Muslims. Is this not clear enough?
Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by Ohyoudidnt: 6:30pm On Dec 22, 2023
TenQ:

Who am I as who can define Jihad better than Allah and his apostle?
Qur'an 2:246
Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.


Qur'an 9:14
Fight then O believers, the idolaters, so that Allah may punish them by your hands by you killing, humiliating, defeating and capturing them. He also wants to help you making you overcome the idolaters and to heal the hearts of a believing people who had not seen fighting, through the believers killing, capturing, defeating and overcoming their enemies.

Clarify and show الجهاد (Al Jihad) in the verses you have listed.
Then why do you say things you don't know the meaning of with so much certainty? Is this speaking in tongues? Lol

TenQ:

Shouldn't you rejoice when Jihad is successfully done for Allah!?

Where is the Jihad in what you wrote and what do you know it to mean as you have failed to define it?

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