Those who reject God do so because they don't want the God of Love ruling them.

They don't want the power of God's Love being the motivating empowerment in their lives.

They want the self-glorification and self-gratification of their own flesh, their human mind, spirit, and emotion, to rule over them and be the power in their life.

For this reason they are willing to go through[b] unbelievable mental gymnastics and speak of their loopy logic, calling it "science,"[/b] which it is not.

They seek to denigrate anyone who will not bow down to their false "science."

They refuse to see God's active Hand in the lives of men and women.

Being unable to deal with the reality of the loving God, they seek to find a naturalistic/materialistic explanation for every miracle of God.

They hate God and God knows it.

They miss the Kingdom of Glory because they love darkness rather than light, because their deeds are evil.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:19


Light, Jesus, has come into the world.

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[li]Light, Jesus, has come into the world.[/li]
[li]People loved darkness.[/li]
[li]Their deeds were evil.[/li]
[li]So they rejected Jesus.[/li]
[li]And so they are condemned.[/li]
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Why Would Anyone Go Through The Mental Gymnastics Required To Rationalize Rejecting God's Free Salvation?


Many people try to rationalize away the salvation of God. Examples include evolutionism, naturalism, materialism, uniformitarianism, Atheism, Humanism, Agnositicism, Hinduism, Islam, and New Age. Why do people do this?

It is plain, from Scripture, that acceptance of Jesus Christ as Savior causes a person to leave behind worldly behavior and to walk in righteousness.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

John 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

John 12:46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.

Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

Romans 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armor of light.

Ephesians 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

1 Thessalonians 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

1 Thessalonians 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:

1 John 1:5-10 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

1 John 2:3-11 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning. Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

Paul defines love as obeying the commandments. Thou shalt not commit adultery etc.

Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

See, following Jesus requires leaving darkness behind.

It is plain in Scripture that those who reject the righteousness of Jesus Christ do so because they hate God and His holiness do not want to walk in righteousness.

These people love darkness rather than light. They love sin more than they love righteousness. They love their own thoughts instead of God’s thoughts. They want to be freed from God, but don’t even realize that they are slaves to sin.

John 3:18-2[/b]1 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

[b]2 Peter 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, self-willed, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

2 Timothy 3:2-5 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

This, of course, describes liberalism and false religion as it can be observed everywhere today. It also describes those who have been born again but refuse to go on to maturity.

it's the feel cool factor in this day and age.

^^^^

You hit the nail on the head.

Accepting God in their opinion makes them look stupid, while accepting Atheism makes them appear intellectual even though the basis is quite foolish !

frosbel:

^^^^
You hit the nail on the head.
Accepting God in their opinion makes them look silly, while accepting Atheism makes them appear intellectual even though the basis is quite foolish !

because they want to prove they know more than albert einstein. then you start hearing the theory of evolution or how 2 atoms collided together to form a big massive planet called planet earth and blah bleh bluh!

Atheists: God needs to be proven through the scientific method. Any observations of God must be testable, repeatable, and falsifiable. Christians for example claim that their God interects with them, guides them and answers their prayers, if that is true then there should be evidence to show for example that christians that pray to their God for healing recover faster than non christians who don't pray, but no suvh evidence exist. . .

Theists: Make a long wall of text consisting of:

1) Start with a "problem" for atheists (ig, "morality without God is just personal opinion", "science doesn't explain everything", "the theory of evolution leads to genocide". Life is useless without God. . . .God is love and we are his special creation. . .

2) Follow up with "atheists, OPEN your hearts!"

3) Statement of faith/theology, followed by massive amount of bible verses. . . .

4) After going on for five or six pages of bible verses, expect your audience to be swept away by the words of God. .(words of men in reality since everything about the bible was written by men. . .In fact the book was put together through a vote by the roman catholic church)

5) If they aren't, then they have closed their hearts, and will know God only after death, when it's too late.(those of us that were raised and indoctrinated in the christain bubble of delusion will be with Jesus while those that weren't or where indoctrinated with other religious beliefs will suffer in hell for all eternity )

Meanwhile, we're left wondering if we should list the strawmen and faulty logic, or if it's not worth responding to someone so far off the deep end.

People reject the gospel because their minds are blind by the enemy.

[color=#990000]2 Corinthians 4:3-4
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.[/Color]

it takes intercession to cause eyes to be open to truth. But it's not by criticising or attacking them.

Why? Because the way the 3 world religions have represented "God" in their respective teachings is repulsive and evil. That is why. Very simple, really.

Jenwitemi:

Why? Because the way the 3 world religions have represented "God" in their respective teachings is repulsive and evil. That is why. Very simple, really.

It's like a son saying he will be bad because his daddy is bad , lol    .

Get some independence mate 

If you are fully aware that they are not representing God in a factual way , then simply do what a scientist would normally do, go back to the sources and investigate .

It appears you know what is right , but you are using the excuse of bad behaviour in the God-fold to reject faith altogether.

Well I have got bad news for , you will be judged by the amount of light you had while in the physical and how you applied it to your daily conduct. Don't expect to get away with the imaginary get out clause ' I am bad because they showed a bad example ' on judgement day. 

Happens all the time. "Like father like son", you must have heard that saying.

frosbel:

It's like a son saying he will be bad because his daddy is bad , lol    .

Look who's talking about independence. A man who is a slave to a very debilitating doctrine from ancient Rome. Yeah, right.

frosbel:

Get some independence mate 

The sources? You mean the scriptural texts of the bible? Guess what? I have and the depiction of GOD in that book(in the OT texts, to be more precise) is repugnant and that is putting it mildly. All a person with a free mind has to do is read that vile book and he or she would hate, reject and run away from GOD for ever.

But if you have other "sources" apart from the holy bible to go and investigate, please do tell.

frosbel:

If you are fully aware that they are not representing God in a factual way , then simply do what a scientist would normally do, go back to the sources and investigate .

Rejecting the God you propound and worship is not about excusing bad behaviour, big-frosbel, it is about commonsense. It is commonsense to steer clear of a deity that is egotistical, petulant, vindictive, parochial, genocidal, silly and petty in his nature.

frosbel:

It appears you know what is right , but you are using the excuse of bad behaviour in the God-fold to reject faith altogether.

The only person doing the "judgement" is YOU, big-frosbel. You judge because your kindergarten religion, with it's petulant and infantile deity, is being rejected by many and you just can't handle it. YOU can't handle rejection, so you fantasize torturing those who torture you through their rejection of you and what you believe in on some future "judgement day" which also belongs in your own twisted fantasy. Simples.

frosbel:

Well I have got bad news for , you will be judged by the amount of light you had while in the physical and how you applied it to your daily conduct. Don't expect to get away with the imaginary get out clause ' I am bad because they showed a bad example ' on judgement day. 

^^

You Sir are one deluded one.

frosbel:

^^

You Sir are one deluded one.

After he completely destroyed your basless arguments this is all you have to say abi?. . .

Hey, big-frosbel. While still on the God rejection issue, why have you rejected God Allah? I think you should just pack your bags and head on to northern Nigeria for your judgement day.
And make sure you preach the gospel to all asundry on the streets of those towns in which the judgements of christians has been taking place in the last few days, so that your judgement can come swiftly and painfully.

And you better not hide yourself when you get there!

frosbel:

^^

You Sir are one deluded one.

mazaje:

After he completely destroyed your basless arguments this is all you have to say abi?. . .

Destroyed my baseless arguements    You lost me with this one.

What is the point of continuing with a merry go round debate , seeing that blindness has overcome you and your folk/

The conclusion is that only God's mercy can save you , seeing that you are determined to lose your soul for some silly made up fables that have not one iota of logic.

"Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God." - 2 Corinthians 4:4

frosbel:

Destroyed my baseless arguements    You lost me with this one.

What is the point of continuing with a merry go round debate , seeing that blindness has overcome you and your folk/

The conclusion is that only God's mercy can save you , seeing that you are determined to lose your soul for some silly made up fables that have not one iota of logic.

"Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God." - 2 Corinthians 4:4

precisely why I hardly debate with their likes nowadays.

frosbel:

Destroyed my baseless arguements    You lost me with this one.

What is the point of continuing with a merry go round debate , seeing that blindness has overcome you and your folk/

The conclusion is that only God's mercy can save you , seeing that you are determined to lose your soul for some silly made up fables that have not one iota of logic.

"Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God." - 2 Corinthians 4:4

He is doing it here again. . .

Theists: Make a long wall of text consisting of:

1) Start with a "problem" for atheists (ig, "morality without God is just personal opinion", "science doesn't explain everything", "the theory of evolution leads to genocide". Life is useless without God. . . .God is love and we are his special creation. . .

2) Follow up with "atheists, OPEN your hearts!"

3) Statement of faith/theology, followed by massive amount of bible verses. . . .

4) After going on for five or six pages of bible verses, expect your audience to be swept away by the words of God. .(words of men in reality since everything about the bible was written by men. . .In fact the book was put together through a vote by the roman catholic church)

5) If they aren't, then they have closed their hearts, and will know God only after death, when it's too late.(those of us that were raised and indoctrinated in the christain bubble of delusion will be with Jesus while those that weren't or where indoctrinated with other religious beliefs will suffer in hell for all eternity )

Meanwhile, we're left wondering if we should list the strawmen and faulty logic, or if it's not worth responding to someone so far off the deep end. . . . .


LAST TIME I CHECKED SATAN HAS BLINDED YOUR EYES TO THE WORDS OF ALLAH WHO IS THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE, NO?. . . .

frosbel:

Destroyed my baseless arguements    You lost me with this one.

What is the point of continuing with a merry go round debate , seeing that blindness has overcome you and your folk/

The conclusion is that only God's mercy can save you , seeing that you are determined to lose your soul for some silly made up fables that have not one iota of logic.

"Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God." - 2 Corinthians 4:4

(Colossians 3: But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth.


Some debates are to be ignored as they can leads to these.

People reject God becos they want to be free, in sin indeed.

^^

I have to say you are right.

My target is those true seekers and honest debaters , not opinionated misled souls.

One can easily get dragged into the mud with them.

Big-frosbel, you are not looking for any true seekers and "honest" debaters. As a matter of fact, you are not looking for any form of debaters for that matter because religious bigots like you do not debate anything that has to do with your religion. You are just not open for anything like a debate. You're just looking for those who would accept and swallow everything you have to say without questioning you. That is all you are looking for.

You are looking for zombies with no ability to form opinions of their own so that you can insert yours into them without any resistance whatsoever. Get yourself your own church then, 'cos a public forum is not for zealots like you. I wish you all the best in finding such people. You would have much better luck going to Nigeria, especially to the north . . . 

frosbel:
My target is those true seekers and honest debaters , not opinionated misled souls.

My question to frosbel is this; is it evil to question the existence of God?

Let big-frosbel go to the northern regions of Nigeria and show his rejection of allah in public, if he has the courage.

@topic and frosbel
Ppl reject God or refuse salvation because of what people like you have said and done in the body of Christ
You derive pleasure in destroying the body of Christ and sowing wrong seeds
Its so serious that you try to pull down names of people that avail themselves to be used by God to change lives
So tell me why would people want o believe and accept God?!?

I weep for your end if you decide to continue like this

mabell:

@topic and frosbel
Ppl reject God or refuse salvation because of what people like you have said and done in the body of Christ
You derive pleasure in destroying the body of Christ and sowing wrong seeds
Its so serious that you try to pull down names of people that avail themselves to be used by God to change lives
So tell me why would people want o believe and accept God?!?

I weep for your end if you decide to continue like this

I suggest that you weep for yourself and your sheeple.

The primary reasons why people reject God as I personally have witnessed and noticed are the prosperity pimping Gospel, Pastors elevated to god-like status and abusing their power, so called born again Christians living like the world -in some cases even worse than the world , fraudulent practises of many so called MOG with officials of their Mega churches , and the immoral and amoral  behaviour of so called Christians.

Exposing these issues with the word of God for the benefit of all is the main purpose of the recent articles I have posted.

Thank You.

A word is enough for the wise

^^^^

Go tell that to your Pastor Chris.

tell us

@ op, i guess it's because he's just neva there for them.

@post
because i get through life without a crutch oran imaginary friend called jesus

^^^

Enjoy your life.

First define God and distinguish him from other Gods like Zeus and Mazda

Let big-frosbel go to the northern regions of Nigeria and show his rejection of [b]allah in public, [/b]if he has the courage.

 

Of course they will kill him, yet the claim its allah taught them peace.
Anyone can reject God but not "allah" u reject allah u face death openly or secretly.
That is the pagan arab god till date.