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Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by PastorAIO: 2:48pm On Apr 21
Well YHWH has demonstrated enough knowledge of the difference between Days and Years.

There are many passages when YHWH speaks of days and means days and similarly speaks of years and means years. It even translates between them.
Example:
Numbers 14
33And your children shall be shepherds in the wilderness forty years and shall suffer for your faithlessness, until the last of your dead bodies lies in the wilderness. 34According to the number of the days in which you spied out the land, forty days, a year for each day, you shall bear your iniquity forty years, and you shall know my displeasure.’

The hebrews went to spy in Canaan for 40 days. YHWH states clearly that they spied for 40 days, not years. for each day he punishes them for a year in the wilderness. And indeed, the myth says that the Hebrews spent 40 years in the wilderness. Clearly when ywhw says days he means days and when he says years he means years.

When it was prophesied that the messiah will die and be buried for 3 days then rise again it is understood to mean 3 of our 24 hour days. Not 3 years. So this your wuruwuru attempt at an excuse is just too pathetic.


MaxInDHouse:


How old was Adam when he died?
Because the highlighted shows you need more knowledge to understand that Adam died the very day he sinned:

"However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day" 2Peter 3:8

Adam lived 930 years {Genesis 5:5} and no man lived up to 1,000 years meaning all sinners dies within one day! undecided
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:15pm On Apr 21
PastorAIO:
Well YHWH has demonstrated enough knowledge of the difference between Days and Years.

There are many passages when YHWH speaks of days and means days and similarly speaks of years and means years. It even translates between them.
Example:
Numbers 14
33And your children shall be shepherds in the wilderness forty years and shall suffer for your faithlessness, until the last of your dead bodies lies in the wilderness. 34According to the number of the days in which you spied out the land, forty days, a year for each day, you shall bear your iniquity forty years, and you shall know my displeasure.’

The hebrews went to spy in Canaan for 40 days. YHWH states clearly that they spied for 40 days, not years. for each day he punishes them for a year in the wilderness. And indeed, the myth says that the Hebrews spent 40 years in the wilderness. Clearly when ywhw says days he means days and when he says years he means years.

When it was prophesied that the messiah will die and be buried for 3 days then rise again it is understood to mean 3 of our 24 hour days. Not 3 years. So this your wuruwuru attempt at an excuse is just too pathetic.



Well at least you can see that God's word said a day in God's eyes is like a thousand years in man's calculation {2Peter 3:8} and Adam never lived up to a thousand years. Genesis 5:5

Ọmọ that's enough! smiley
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by DeepSight(m): 5:22pm On Apr 21
PastorAIO:
Well YHWH has demonstrated enough knowledge of the difference between Days and Years.

There are many passages when YHWH speaks of days and means days and similarly speaks of years and means years. It even translates between them.
Example:
Numbers 14
33And your children shall be shepherds in the wilderness forty years and shall suffer for your faithlessness, until the last of your dead bodies lies in the wilderness. 34According to the number of the days in which you spied out the land, forty days, a year for each day, you shall bear your iniquity forty years, and you shall know my displeasure.’

The hebrews went to spy in Canaan for 40 days. YHWH states clearly that they spied for 40 days, not years. for each day he punishes them for a year in the wilderness. And indeed, the myth says that the Hebrews spent 40 years in the wilderness. Clearly when ywhw says days he means days and when he says years he means years.

When it was prophesied that the messiah will die and be buried for 3 days then rise again it is understood to mean 3 of our 24 hour days. Not 3 years. So this your wuruwuru attempt at an excuse is just too pathetic.



Babanla wuruwuru!
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by DeepSight(m): 5:31pm On Apr 21
Solajinspiratio:


Divine Revelation: Jehovah’s Witnesses Founder Charles T. Russell Is Agonizing In Hell.

In a true Divine encounter with Lord Jesus Christ, Evangelist Rodolfo Acevedo Hernandez from Dominican Republic was
taken into Heaven and Hell by Lord Jesus Christ.

While in Hell, Rodolfo saw the late founder of Jehovah’s Witnesses religious sect
in agonizing torment in eternal burning Hell fire. The name of the late founder of Jehovah’s Witnesses religious sect is Charles T. Russell.

Rodolfo Acevedo Hernandez Testified:

We continued walking in Hell and Lord Jesus Christ showed me a white man whose hands were stretched out and the surprising thing about this man is that he had a very fine sword inside his tongue and this sword crossed through his head and was coming out of his body.

His feet were grabbed by chains and his back was full of blades set in different positions in a way that no matter how he moved, he would be cut.

When I saw this man in this condition, I told Lord Jesus Christ, “Lord, please help him. Do something Lord Jesus. Look at the horrendous pain that this man is going through.”

The Lord asked me: “Do you know who this man is? “No, Lord,” I said. I saw how the knives got through his skin and then through the bones and how they came out of his body. The man only screamed in agony.

Lord Jesus Christ told me, “judgment against this man has been established. Now I am going to tell you the identity of this man.” Because of that revelation, the Lord said ‘You will have to run from city to city because this will cause you a great persecution but I will be with you.”

He went on to say “Rodolfo, this man is Charles T. Russell.” I said “Lord, who is he?” The Lord said that this man was the founder of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

I pleaded “Lord, please help him” and the Lord said: “No, Rodolfo.” And as the Lord moved his hands, immediately I saw that many souls were falling into Hell in every way possible: they were falling head first, feet first, stomach first, etc.

Rodolfo, for that cursed man, all these souls are entering into Hell. This man taught that God was only a God of love. The Bible says that God is a consuming fire.

This man Charles Russell took the word Hell from the Bible and he took out all the words Sheol and Abaddon. Also, he denied the deity of Lord Jesus Christ and also denied the deity of the Holy Spirit and he put only the Word “Jehovah” in the Bible.

He took out Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. For this cursed man, all these souls are falling into Hell.” (Revelation 22:18-19). Then the Lord said: “I curse that man.”

Please Jehovah Witness that is listening to me at this moment, I don’t want to offend you. Get out of that sect and come to Lord Jesus Christ quickly.

I don’t hate you and I don’t hate your religion either but you are in a farce. Come to Lord Jesus Christ. He is waiting for you with open hands. Charles Russell is in Hell because he taught lies! Don’t follow his lies.

When we left this place, these prison doors closed and caught fire and this man Charles T. Russell cried and screamed and cursed Lord Jesus Christ repeatedly because Lord Jesus Christ said “The judgment has been set for this man.”

How you guys are able to make peace with the idea of a sadistic God that tortures people in the most horrific fashion is completely beyond me.
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by CaptainJune: 7:23pm On Apr 21
DeepSight:


How you guys are able to make peace with the idea of a sadistic God that tortures people in the most horrific fashion is completely beyond me.

Read the Bible to know who He is. You are only defining Him with one side of the coin. A coin has two sides. God is a Shepherd and a Judge, He is both loving and terrible. Being selectivley blind to the other side of His nature is deception. He Himself said to fear Him. Jesus told you whom to fear. If God is all love, then why did He say to fear Him? Doesn't perfect love cast out all fear? So why the need to fear Him? The Bible said the demons know there is one God and they tremble.

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Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:30pm On Apr 21
CaptainJune:

Read the Bible to know who He is. You are only defining Him with one side of the coin. A coin has two sides. God is a Shepherd and a Judge, He is both loving and terrible. Being selectivley blind to the other side of His nature is deception. He Himself said to fear Him. Jesus told you whom to fear. If God is all love, then why did He say to fear Him? Doesn't perfect love cast out all fear? So why the need to fear Him? The Bible said the demons know there is one God and they tremble.

Fear is not all about terrifying things rather it means the idea of loosing a good friend.

Do you fear a friend?

Can he torture you for breaking his heart?

Well in most cases integrity keepers fear not to hurt their close friends, they cherish friendship!
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by Aemmyjah(m): 7:33pm On Apr 21
CaptainJune:


Read the Bible to know who He is. You are only defining Him with one side of the coin. A coin has two sides. God is a Shepherd and a Judge, He is both loving and terrible. Being selectivley blind to the other side of His nature is deception. He Himself said to fear Him. Jesus told you whom to fear. If God is all love, then why did He say to fear Him? Doesn't perfect love cast out all fear? So why the need to fear Him? The Bible said the demons know there is one God and they tremble.


How can someone be loving and terrible
You go just de misyan anyhow

If ur pikin use these 2 qualities to describe you, you go like am?
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by CaptainJune: 7:41pm On Apr 21
MaxInDHouse:


Fear is not all about terrifying things rather it means the idea of loosing a good friend.

Do you fear a friend?

Can he torture you for breaking his heart?

Well in most cases integrity keepers fear not to hurt their close friends, they cherish friendship!

Context. When Christ said to fear God He mentioned hell fire. He was talking about terrifying things contrary to your submission. In the book of Philippians chapter 2, it says to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Do you relate with your friend in fear and trembling?
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by CaptainJune: 7:46pm On Apr 21
Aemmyjah:



How can someone be loving and terrible
You go just de misyan anyhow

If ur pikin use these 2 qualities to describe you, you go like am?

Do you think that the God who created water did not create fire? Hell is eternal prison. A man may be a loving husband and father, but can also be a judge. You accept that. When it comes to God, who is the Groom, and Father and Judge, you suddenly rebel against His nature.
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:52pm On Apr 21
CaptainJune:

Context. When Christ said to fear God He mentioned hell fire. He was talking about terrifying things contrary to your submission. In the book of Philippians chapter 2, it says to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Do you relate with your friend in fear and trembling?

The Hellfire doctrine is what you believe so it's OK but my own God never created any Hellfire. It's either you continue living if you're his friend or He stop relating with you and you are left to return to non-existent! Genesis 2:17
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by DeepSight(m): 7:54pm On Apr 21
CaptainJune:


Read the Bible to know who He is. You are only defining Him with one side of the coin. A coin has two sides. God is a Shepherd and a Judge, He is both loving and terrible. Being selectivley blind to the other side of His nature is deception. He Himself said to fear Him. Jesus told you whom to fear. If God is all love, then why did He say to fear Him? Doesn't perfect love cast out all fear? So why the need to fear Him? The Bible said the demons know there is one God and they tremble.

The concept of eternal torment is barbaric.
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by Aemmyjah(m): 8:44pm On Apr 21
CaptainJune:


Do you think that the God who created water did not create fire? Hell is eternal prison. A man may be a loving husband and father, but can also be a judge. You accept that. When it comes to God, who is the Groom, and Father and Judge, you suddenly rebel against His nature.

Use your brain
How's a man who's is a father and husband he terrible and loving ?
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by CaptainJune: 10:20pm On Apr 21
MaxInDHouse:


The Hellfire doctrine is what you believe so it's OK but my own God never created any Hellfire. It's either you continue living if you're his friend or He stop relating with you and you are left to return to non-existent! Genesis 2:17

The fountain source of your error is your scarce understanding of the just and righteous nature of God...understand that then the rest will easily fall in place.
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by CaptainJune: 10:26pm On Apr 21
DeepSight:


The concept of eternal torment is barbaric.

because it causes friction with your limited human perspective?
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by CaptainJune: 10:40pm On Apr 21
Aemmyjah:


Use your brain
How's a man who's is a father and husband he terrible and loving ?

Did you read what He did to the earth in Noah's time? Is that not His judgment on the world. Did you also read how He overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah making them an example of His judgment. That is how He can both be loving and terrible at the same time.
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by DeepSight(m): 10:47pm On Apr 21
CaptainJune:


because it causes friction with your limited human perspective?

No. Because it is barbaric, period.
And only brainwashed masochists believe in it.
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by DeepSight(m): 10:49pm On Apr 21
CaptainJune:


Did you read what He did to the earth in Noah's time? Is that not His judgment on the world. Did you also read how He overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah making them an example of His judgment. That is how He can both be loving and terrible at the same time.

That Yahweh of the bible is a sadistic monster is beyond cavil.
A deity that even sends a bear to murder little children for poking fun at his prophet.

How petty and childish is that. How insecure, how weak, how disgraceful.

Needless to say, no such deity exists beyond what was invented by the ancient Jews as a tool of fear and control.

Moses the Raven and Sugar Candy Mountain, google this if it eludes you.
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:19am On Apr 22
CaptainJune:

The fountain source of your error is your scarce understanding of the JUST and RIGHTEOUS nature of God...understand that then the rest will easily fall in place.

Someone didn't worship your god because he was confused as there were countless religions all claiming they are worshiping the same God with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines then your God has created a burning furnace where such a person will be roasted alive forever and ever so that is JUST and RIGHTEOUS from your point of view shey?

Ọmọ Satan has really blinded you because the true God never said that!

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Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by CaptainJune: 5:54am On Apr 22
DeepSight:


No. Because it is barbaric, period.
And only brainwashed masochists believe in it.

And God dying on the cross for you to save you from the sin that would destroy you is barbaric as well? You are sinking in your sin yet you reject His extended hands of salvation, but condemn Him for leaving you in your destruction as you desire thinking you are more righteous than God who created you.
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:57am On Apr 22
CaptainJune:

And GOD dying on the cross for you to save you from the sin that would destroy you.

So God prayed to God for help so that God was crying on to God to deliver God? undecided

Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by DeepSight(m): 6:05am On Apr 22
CaptainJune:


And God dying on the cross for you to save you from the sin that would destroy you is barbaric as well? You are sinking in your sin yet you reject His extended hands of salvation, but condemn Him for leaving you in your destruction as you desire thinking you are more righteous than God who created you.

You know, it's truly remarkable how you are able to write "God dying on the cross for you" without flinching at the sheer absurdity of that statement. You write it so casually, and with such calm confidence, as though you are writing "oh, we all know the Earth goes round the sun."

You really need to reflect. Nothing could be more ridiculous than that statement.
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by CaptainJune: 6:38am On Apr 22
DeepSight:


That Yahweh of the bible is a sadistic monster is beyond cavil.
A deity that even sends a bear to murder little children for poking fun at his prophet.

How petty and childish is that. How insecure, how weak, how disgraceful.

Needless to say, no such deity exists beyond what was invented by the ancient Jews as a tool of fear and control.

Moses the Raven and Sugar Candy Mountain, google this if it eludes you.

You are not wise as to know how the stars were made, the exact length and breadth of the universe but you think your finite wisdom makes you better than God.
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by CaptainJune: 6:42am On Apr 22
MaxInDHouse:


Someone didn't worship your god because he was confused as there were countless religions all claiming they are worshiping the same God with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines then your God has created a burning furnace where such a person will be roasted alive forever and ever so that is JUST and RIGHTEOUS from your point of view shey?

Ọmọ Satan has really blinded you because the true God never said that!

Countless many refuse to serve the true God because of the persecution they will face. A good many others are not interested in seeking the truth after seeing the invisible hands of God at work in the lives of people through innumerable testimonies. The internet is there so that their search for the truth is easier. There are many who genuinely did not hear the good news but God will judge them according to their works and conscience.
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:45am On Apr 22
CaptainJune:

There are many who genuinely did not hear the good news but God will judge them according to their works and conscience.
And if their conscience frees them they will go to your heaven or hellfire? undecided
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by DeepSight(m): 6:46am On Apr 22
CaptainJune:


You are not wise as to know how the stars were made, the exact length and breadth of the universe but you think your finite wisdom makes you better than God.

It is you who actually thinks your barbaric ideas are the ideas of God. It is you who, as small as you are, wishes to decree that God is a psychopath, and you wish that no one must question that - since poor God of course, can't speak for himself.

I can only pray that one day you wake up from this absurd stupidity.
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by CaptainJune: 6:47am On Apr 22
MaxInDHouse:


So God prayed to God for help so that God was crying on to God to deliver God? undecided

God the Father, God the Son (the Word), God the Holy Spirit. Even then, the Bible says that Jesus (God) did not think equality with the Father God robbery but made Himself of no reputation and came to the world. Being found in the flesh as man, He humbled Himself and became obedient even to death on the cross. Because of that, God (the Father) has highly lifted His name above all other names that at the name of Jesus all knees shall bow whether in heaven, on earth or under the earth.
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by CaptainJune: 6:49am On Apr 22
DeepSight:


You know, it's truly remarkable how you are able to write "God dying on the cross for you" without flinching at the sheer absurdity of that statement. You write it so casually, and with such calm confidence, as though you are writing "oh, we all know the Earth goes round the sun."

You really need to reflect. Nothing could be more ridiculous than that statement.

Why does it need logical reflection rather than appreciation?
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:50am On Apr 22
CaptainJune:

God the Father, God the Son (the Word), God the Holy Spirit.
Where is this found in the Bible? undecided
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by CaptainJune: 6:50am On Apr 22
MaxInDHouse:

And if their conscience frees them they will go to your heaven or hellfire? undecided

Where they are not found wanting they will go to paradise and be taught the ways of the one true God. Others will go to hell. You will be judged according to your works. It is written.
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:52am On Apr 22
CaptainJune:

Where they are not found wanting they will go to paradise and be taught the ways of the one true God. Others will go to hell. You will be judged according to your works. It is written.
So they don't need Jesus now if their conscience is WORKING right? undecided
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by CaptainJune: 6:53am On Apr 22
DeepSight:


It is you who actually thinks your barbaric ideas are the ideas of God. It is you who, as small as you are, wishes to decree that God is a psychopath, and you wish that no one must question that - since poor God of course, can't speak for himself.

I can only pray that one day you wake up from this absurd stupidity.

A person formulates ideas. The words I speak are not mine but God's. They are not my a product of my thoughts. They are God's Word Himself.
Re: Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell. by CaptainJune: 6:56am On Apr 22
MaxInDHouse:

Where is this found in the Bible? undecided

There are tons of scripture verses but Matthew 28:19 should suffice.

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