MaxInDHouse:



Double account responding to yourself really funny!

Veecruz:


Says the Liar who is even right now still lying forgetting that all the times he lied are solidly plastered all over the thread and seen by all. You are a devil, full and full and doing everything your father Satan does.

No Road, son of Satan, absolutely no Road! Case Closed

MaxInDHouse:

Double account responding to yourself really funny!

Westerhoffe:

replied to you according to your accusations.

Case not closed until you provide where GOD said polygamy is adultery according to you.

And don't run away now.
I've promised you this will be very long since you don't want to stop lying and name-calling.[/b]

Westerhoffe:

Now I see where your problem is… it is the spirit of deception and trickery, and difficulty understanding English.

Now you've lost words and resorted to twisting my comments too.

Westerhoffe:



Are you shocked they called our LORD JESUS CHRIST the same you both had been calling me?

No… it just proves whose sides you both are on.

Westerhoffe:
..Even those who saw your errors and ignorance called your attention to it, but you think you're still right, but only in your own eyes.

truespeak:


Ha! The guy does have screws loose for I have been watching all this time. He reminds me of that mad guy you dealt with some years back, can't remenber his name.

Westerhoffe:


I said you're ignorant, you think you're smart.

How can you profane the HOLINESS of GOD? GOD is in Heaven, you're here on Earth. You can only profane yourself and not GOD'S HOLINESS.

Sit down, be humble, and learn.

Veecruz:


You bring wrath on yourself when you sin and cause others to sin. And having 2 wives is a multiplication of the 1 wife into 2,

And God does not want "normally" only "Holy" and He also Commanded that we should never "follow the multitude to sin" like Ezra , Johan, Jonathan, Jahaziel, and co did not join the people to sin.



But it did not talk about the multiplying sheep and goats but only the 2 things whose multiplication whose multiplication have a very bad and immoral meaning.

bobestman:
These thing are very simple but you are using logic to explain to keep your delusion cos you never agree you are wrong. Polygamy is a choice. It is clearly written and their is a reason God gave laws for it. If he don't want it, he will never give laws for those who wanna go into it. You are not God. You know nothing on this issue let alone the consequences of trying to teach God his laws or why he gave laws on polygamy. Christians sin more with one wife - do you know?

Veecruz:


Exactly how choosing to commit a sin is a choice.

And God has clearly told us that He loves only Holy and Clean things not things that contain sin and unholiness in them, as clearly shown by ALL HIS LAWS.

And it is proven that you can not do Polygamy without committing sin especially the sin of Adultery, which no one here has been able to counter.

So,it is your choice to sin or to live Holy, but this thread has clearly proven that no one can do Polygamy without committing a sin especially the sin of Adultery.

Westerhoffe:



Where in what verses/verse in the Bible did GOD say taking more than one wife is adultery? That's all I asked you but to avoid answering, since you cannot find any because GOD never said so, you resorted to name-calling! "Devil, Satan, Muslim, bla bla bla."

Just provide one only, you can't, having realized I've exposed your ignorance to the world and to you.

Give me just one verse where GOD said what you claimed.
Or do you think I'm a sheeple anyone can just lie to and programme the way you were programmed?
To believe all what your pastors say without checking if they're saying the truth or not?
I'm not that kind of a person!

GIVE ME JUST ONE VERSE WHERE GOD SAID DO NOT TAKE MORE THAN ONE WIFE FOR IT IS ADULTERY.

Stop trying to cover up your lies and ignorance with laughs and emojis.

On this topic on this thread, you're in for a long ride.

Veecruz:
Deuteronomy 17:17, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away::

This proves that all who say God approves polygamy and does not condemn it are Liars and Devils and children of Satan!

Veecruz:
Deuteronomy 17:17, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away::

This proves that all who say God approves polygamy and does not condemn it are Liars and Devils and children of Satan!

benji93:
Actually, most scholars reasonably interpret this to mean that, do not have several wives. It doesn't include a few. Some translations do not use 'multiply', they use 'do not take many wives' instead. This is more specific to Kings, and we do see the result of marrying many wives in the case of Solomon. Meanwhile, God seemed to permit it in Exodus 21 vs 10, for the common man. I am assuming you knew this but ignored it.

Veecruz:
Deuteronomy 17:17, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away::

This proves that all who say God approves polygamy and does not condemn it are Liars and Devils and children of Satan!

MiddleDimension:


Both for ''common men'' and for Kings, it is lawful and an honourble thing to have more than one wife.

You said you ''saw the effect of having more than one wife in the case of Solomon''. The question I ask is that: what effect does polygamy have in the life of David and Gideon? Also, can we have see the fact Cain killed Abel as the effect of monogamy too? What about Jacob and Essau? is what happened between them the impact of monogamy?

Westerhoffe:



You think you know the Bible, but you don't, and to worsen it, you have difficulty understanding simple English sentences.

I will yet again expose your erroneous statements.

You lied and decided to mislead the people about EZRA 10:3, claiming it is referring to DEUTERONOMY 17:17, meanwhile EZRA 10:1-3 was referring to EXODUS 34:15,16.

Now you see you're such a blatant liar, a Satanic grade deceiver, and a mislead.

I'll expose your errors, lies, and deceptions the more!

Sit tight.

The rate at which you contort the Bible is alarming.

Your mislead says Abraham sent away his other wives and concubines? NO!

Abraham sent away their SONS from ISAAC. There is no record of Abraham sending away the women save for Hagar.

So there, you lied just exactly like Satan the father of lies did when trying to make lies look like the truth.

Genesis 25 (KJV)
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¹ Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah.
⁶ But unto the SONS of the CONCUBINES, which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward, unto the east country.

I insist, GOD said, "IF A MAN HAVE TWO WIVES…! as in “If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:”
— Deuteronomy 21:15 (KJV)

GOD did not say here that, if a man has two wives, it is ADULTERY! Rather, GOD analyzed how the man should share his properties BETWEEN/AMONG THE CHILDREN OF HIS WIVES!

Now, to expose your deception and attempted cover-up with your quote from Ezra, despite all your failed attempts to back up your claims of adultery from the Bible, this is what the Bible said there:

Ezra 10 (KJV)
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¹ Now when Ezra had prayed, and when he had confessed, weeping and casting himself down before the house of God, there assembled unto him out of Israel a very great congregation of men and women and children: for the people wept very sore.
² And Shechaniah the son of Jehiel, one of the sons of Elam, answered and said unto Ezra, We have trespassed against our God, and have taken STRANGE WIVES OF THE PEOPLE OF THE LAND: yet now there is hope in Israel concerning this thing.
³ Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.

They admitted they've sinned against GOD by taking STRANGE WIVES of NON-ISRAELIS according to the word of GOD here:

Exodus 34 (KJV)
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¹⁵ Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;
¹⁶ And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.

I have yet again exposed your contortion and twisting of the Bible to butter your personal opinion, and not the word of GOD. And to make yourself sound true and over-zealous, you kept calling me names like Satan, son of Satan, bla bla bla.
That doesn't work here on me.

What a pity to those you lead for you're a blind and a blindfolded leader.

NOW, GIVE ME A VERSE FROM THE BIBLE WHERE GOD SAID HAVING TWO WIVES IS ADULTERY.

You want to drag this, I'll make it LONGER! AND EVEN RIGHT NOW, WE'VE JUST STARTED!!

benji93:
In that instance, i was referring to the many wives Solomon had(Not just more than one). David would be the more comparable example, but he had fewer wives. While troubles can emerge from monogamous marriages too, it doesn't mean monogamy was the cause. We certainly are exposed to the consequences of a host of other decisions, other than the type of marriage we choose or were born into. An example is the case of Jacob, Leah, and Rachel, and the strife that ensued. If you replace every polygamous marriage in the bible with a monogamous one hypothetically you would be eliminating certain elements that could stir up trouble. If a second wife had not come into the picture for Jacob, the risk of a potential cause of strife. Not that strife amongst children cannot happen even in monogamous relationships, but the chances go up with polygamy.

Besides I wasn't even arguing that Polygamy is a sin. I was only pointing out that the guy I mentioned chose a verse that could be ambiguous at least superficially, and restricted to kings, whereas there are other verses in which it seems God permitted it even for the common man that could afford it.

Jokerman:
Only a non Christian will support Polygamy after Jesus Christ settled the matter in Matt 19:4

Veecruz:
Deuteronomy 17:17, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away::

This proves that all who say God approves polygamy and does not condemn it are Liars and Devils and children of Satan!

gohf:
Deut.17.17 -

The king must not take MANY wives, who the king, not the people and this was written by Moses.

gohf:

Who was speaking here and to whom?
2Sam.12.8 - I gave you his house and his wives and the kingdoms of Israel and Judah. And if that had not been enough, I would have given you much, much more.

Ken4Christ:

You are quoting this scripture out of context.

See the full verse below;

Deuteronomy 17:17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.

The last part says that he should not also multiply to himself silver and gold.

If your submission is correct, then we will be forced to conclude that God is also saying that we should not be rich. But we know that such conclusion is far from the truth.

If you read the whole chapter, God was referring to those who will become King in Israel.

He is saying that they should not use that position for selfish gains like it's happening in Nigeria.

Don't multiply wives to yourself. It's not the same as saying don't marry more than one wife. The Law of Moses clearly made provisions for more than one wife. And it cannot contradict itself.

And the reason he gave such instructions is so that these wives will not turn their hearts away from God like it happened to Solomon.

Which is in the end God caught everyone in His Law for any of them could be chosen to be King, hence, it Is The People, He ended up giving The Command!

What a very wise and sweet move God made with one big master stroke knowing that men are cunning sinners who would like to use any and every darkness to commit sin and say claim they did not know. Whereas we all know what things are bad and evil!

Questionnaires:

Our African Ancestors Did Well With Polygamy And Never Needed To Cheat On Their Wives!

benji93:
Actually, most scholars reasonably interpret this to mean that, do not have several wives. It doesn't include a few. Some translations do not use 'multiply', they use 'do not take many wives' instead. This is more specific to Kings, and we do see the result of marrying many wives in the case of Solomon. Meanwhile, God seemed to permit it in Exodus 21 vs 10, for the common man. I am assuming you knew this but ignored it.

Veecruz:


I understand all you have in mind but you people have not considered that God's Laws always address every person eg
Is embezzlement (stealing) and unlawful enrichment not a sin which anybody whether president (king) or clerk can be guilty of?

And can a person who gathers horses not commit the sin of coup and rebellion like boko haram have done?

And you have confirmed this by saying
"If you read the whole chapter, God was referring to those who will become King in Israel"

Which is in the end God caught everyone in His Law for any of them could be chosen to be King, hence, it Is The People, He ended up giving The Command!

What a very wise and sweet move God made with one big master stroke knowing that men are cunning sinners who would like to use any and every darkness to commit sin and say claim they did not know. Whereas we all know what things are bad and evil!

Ken4Christ:


Yes,God's word is for everyone but there are people he also gave specific instructions. When God told Abraham to sacrifice his only son, does it mean every father should do that because it's in the pages of the Bible.

The statement was make to caution Kings not to abuse their office. Like I mentioned in my previous post, the Law already made provisions for the Jews to marry more than one wife and even have as many concubines as they wish. The same Law will not come and say otherwise in another passage. You are reading the phrase, don't multiply wives to yourself as don't marry more than one wife. This is not what it meant.

In the same sense, he also warned Kings not to amass wealth for themselves. Does it mean that God is saying that they should not be rich?

Ken4Christ:

Must you win an argument at all cost?

bobestman:
You are just beating about the bush. As being celibate is a choice so is polygamy. Adultery is sleeping with a married woman and an example is what David did with someone's wife. Polygamy is having 2 or more wives. Call it what it is. If you want to talk about purity in marriage, christians are the ones unclean and going against God's law - Ask me why. God have his reasons why he allowed it. Stop trying to teach God his laws

Veecruz:


Saying "God's word is for everyone" is exactly the case for we all know that Law which is for the public Law and the one directed to a specific individual or a group of individuals.

And you.yourself have avknowlegded that this is a public Law in saying
"If you read the whole chapter, God was referring to those who will become King in Israel". Which is The Whole People of Israel.

Which is why anyone saying.God allows polygamy is a Liar and a Devil

And on amass of wealth, Is embezzlement (stealing) and unlawful enrichment not a sin which everybody including president (king), clerk, mechanic can be guilty of?

And is it already.proven here that you all men amd not just presidents.alone lusted after more wives?

So, its proven that with one swoop, God caught you all.



As westerhorf, Bibestman and MiddleDimension.have shown, they who speak Lies.and blaspheme The Lord do so at all cost, so why should i not go the whole way with them, in Fence of The Lord?

Veecruz:


Exactly how choosing to commit a sin or to run.away from it, is a choice. So no point here.

And.secondly, i have been asking. how can you do you do polygamy.without breaking The Law and commiting sin especially the sin of Adultery as proven by this case?
Re: Marrying A Second Wife Good Or Bad I Need Ur Opinion by Blunttruth: 5:27pm On Aug 05, 2022
Trustedapparel:
I am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month... honestly I want to make her my second wife ...

bobestman:
Are you not ashamed of yourself? Upon everything we have told you here you are still looking for whatever available to remain stucked in your delusion. God have his reasons for approving it and the more you keep argueing it the more you make Him look like a liar. If you want to know the reasons ask