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Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by Dogalmighty17: 12:25am On Mar 18
Emotions and sentiments are undoubtedly running high at the moment. Particularly within the armed forces and those who for one reason or the other, want to play on the sensibilities of Nigerians and to also give the army a bad name.

I am by no means holding brief for the Nigerian army. It is not my place to do that. But let's keep sentiments aside.

1. It is not a thing of debate why the army was in that location in the first place. It is also not in debate that the Nigerian army lost officers and men in a cowardly ambush when they went for a peace mission in Okuama community.

2. It has been reported that the communities were engaged in land dispute and a member of an opposing community, was kidnapped. Officers of the Nigerian army undertook it upon themselves to visit that community and see how a peaceful resolution could be wrought. That ended up to be their mistake.

3. Videos are flying around purportedly showing supposed Nigerian army soldiers setting the community on fire. This is very far from the truth.

For the first time in a long while, when news of the deaths of the officers broke, in all the bedlam, the army spokesman, released a statement that detailed investigation will be undertaken and those behind the Killings will be brought to book. That release had barely made the rounds in the press before videos of supposed Nigerian army soldiers setting fire to houses in the community, started making the rounds.

Let's consider this angle. After agents of that community in the land dispute killed those officers, were we expecting that the inhabitants of that community remain in place? Of course not! They fled. And by fleeing, they gave room to the community they were in dispute with to come and set fire to their homes. This to ensure that they don't return.

Secondly, the level of fire power deployed in this assault, shows a carefully planned arrangement. The killers were expecting the soldiers and they positioned themselves accordingly. The result of the peace keeping mission would have been immaterial. Those soldiers would have been killed anyway.

Which begs the question. Who is it that stands to benefit from these Killings? Are these people who seek to distabilize the current government? Is it not rather surprising that it is now that Nigeria is beginning to export higher volumes of crude that this incident happened?

Are there people that hate this government so much that causing instability in the Niger-Delta and the armed forces is a low that is not beyond them?

The army has been stationed close to that community for years now. If the army had been a terror to the peace of that community, the world would have heard it long before now.

My sympathies to the families who are grieving as a result of this senseless killing.

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Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by Dafresh: 1:32am On Mar 18
I swear ee go soon reach you this year not next year you must witness it

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Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by Cindypresh(f): 4:01am On Mar 18
When did the army start setting land dispute between two communities in Nigeria??

I've been asking this question since yesterday...these people are not telling the truth

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Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by Exousiang01: 4:55am On Mar 18
Very interesting point of view

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Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by Iamanoited: 4:56am On Mar 18
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Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by Exousiang01: 5:08am On Mar 18
Cindypresh:


When did the army start setting land dispute between two communities in Nigeria??

I've been asking this question since yesterday...these people are not telling the truth

If you are ignorant of something don't you think it's best to get information instead this display?
You have been in Nigeria, I mean you have been on this planet and you have never heard of the army going on peace keeping missions?
How do you expect the peace to be kept if the waring communities don't settle their differences peacefully?

This na basic knowledge and You supposed to be educated

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Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by LandMann: 5:11am On Mar 18
Dogalmighty17:
Emotions and sentiments are undoubtedly running high at the moment. Particularly within the armed forces and those who for one reason or the other, want to play on the sensibilities of Nigerians and to also give the army a bad name.

I am by no means holding brief for the Nigerian army. It is not my place to do that. But let's keep sentiments aside.

1. It is not a thing of debate why the army was in that location in the first place. It is also not in debate that the Nigerian army lost officers and men in a cowardly ambush when they went for a peace mission in Okuama community.

2. It has been reported that the communities were engaged in land dispute and a member of an opposing community, was kidnapped. Officers of the Nigerian army undertook it upon themselves to visit that community and see how a peaceful resolution could be wrought. That ended up to be their mistake.

3. Videos are flying around purportedly showing supposed Nigerian army soldiers setting the community on fire. This is very far from the truth.

For the first time in a long while, when news of the deaths of the officers broke, in all the bedlam, the army spokesman, released a statement that detailed investigation will be undertaken and those behind the Killings will be brought to book. That release had barely made the rounds in the press before videos of supposed Nigerian army soldiers setting fire to houses in the community, started making the rounds.

Let's consider this angle. After agents of that community in the land dispute killed those officers, were we expecting that the inhabitants of that community remain in place? Of course not! They fled. And by fleeing, they gave room to the community they were in dispute with to come and set fire to their homes. This to ensure that they don't return.

Secondly, the level of fire power deployed in this assault, shows a carefully planned arrangement. The killers were expecting the soldiers and they positioned themselves accordingly. The result of the peace keeping mission would have been immaterial. Those soldiers would have been killed anyway.

Which begs the question. Who is it that stands to benefit from these Killings? Are these people who seek to distabilize the current government? Is it not rather surprising that it is now that Nigeria is beginning to export higher volumes of crude that this incident happened?

Are there people that hate this government so much that causing instability in the Niger-Delta and the armed forces is a low that is not beyond them?

The army has been stationed close to that community for years now. If the army had been a terror to the peace of that community, the world would have heard it long before now.

My sympathies to the families who are grieving as a result of this senseless killing.

Reread everything you wrote and ask yourself if there's any sense in what you wrote. Mr spin doctor. When did it become the responsibility of the Nigerian army to settle land dispute or rescue kidnap victims by attempting to arrest chiefs in a village?

The Nigeria army displayed foolish audacity by going to involve in an issue that is purely a police and judicial affair. They thought they can oppress the villagers with their guns and uniform. But alas, the villagers have sons and daughters and relatives who are equally deadly militants armed to the teeth to defend their people against oppression from anybody, be it military or police.

Nigeria army and Nigeria police should learn the art of diplomacy and stop intimidating people and oppressing people because they have the instrumentality of force, guns.

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Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by Gadafii: 5:21am On Mar 18
There is barely any sensible thing in this your post, ok it wasn’t the army that set the community on fire, but did the army posts “the audacity “ on its verified twitter page and deleted it later

What does that mean

Oga the army burnt that village, it’s their pattern, we are not kids we know them to be like that, from odi village in bayelsa to orlu in imo and other places the army have army razed down communities in situations like this


I still condemn the killing of those soldiers, it’s unacceptable and the criminals must be fished out, but burning the community will not fish out the criminals, they are in the creeks, go after them there and leave innocent people alone

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Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by malali: 5:25am On Mar 18
Whatever action you take, dont take an action similar to what Israel did to Hamas.
Two wrongs never make a right, dont listen to those agitating for more chaos.
All the traditional rulers, LGA chairman , Youth leaders , Pastors, Commissioners , Party leaders, chairman, deputy chairman, Local head of the thugs in that area anyone who is an authority or semi authority should be summoned to Governors office. Tell them whoever doesn't honor the invitation gets put on the wanted list.
These people should now dialogue with the NSA and security agencies including the military, senator from that area, house of representatives.
While this is going on DSS, should go and get the names of the main actors, most likely they are operating under same cult or vigilante association.
Infiltrate the community, with money, informants, force and arrest all those possible, any person left not arrested should have a heavy bounty on their head, 50 million Naira. So that they can never show face in public.
Charge them to court, let the jury comprise of people from the same locality and give them the maximum sentences possible.
All those people summoned should be on DSS watch going forward, if they leave the locality, they have to check with DSS, Every friday they have to report and mark register in an office or location.
Remove all the people that could have stopped these attacks but did nothing, Traditional ruler or elected official or appointee. Anyone with foreknowledge that didn't raise and alarm or stopped it should be removed.

Its also time for legislation on gun ownership by civilian.
The government has to set up private anonymous reporting lines for EFCC,NSA and DSS.
The government cannot have eyes everywhere, but some Nigerians will always serve as informants at the right time. This will save a lot of lives and property. Punish culprits for as long as they are alive, to serve as deterrent.
Just imagine if someone had texted that the soldiers were walking into a planned ambush ! They would have fortified or aborted.
All these medicine after death approach method is not effective.
Nigeria needs to take intelligence seriously, government needs to study the terrain in many communities and prevent these kind of attacks before it happens.

Build more military bases in Niger-Delta.Nigeria's economy depends on Niger Delta.....USA has military bases in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Niger. It happened in Odi now Okuama...Common, build a military base and secure the whole place, let them see soldiers morning, afternoon and night.

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Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by talk2hb1(m): 5:52am On Mar 18
Cindypresh:


When did the army start setting land dispute between two communities in Nigeria??

I've been asking this question since yesterday...these people are not telling the truth
The Community never disputed the peace keeping mission, obviously a lot did not add up.
Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by talk2hb1(m): 6:02am On Mar 18
LandMann:


Reread everything you wrote and ask yourself if there's any sense in what you wrote. Mr spin doctor. When did it become the responsibility of the Nigerian army to settle land dispute or rescue kidnap victims by attempting to arrest chiefs in a village?

The Nigeria army displayed foolish audacity by going to involve in an issue that is purely a police and judicial affair. They thought they can oppress the villagers with their guns and uniform. But alas, the villagers have sons and daughters and relatives who are equally deadly militants armed to the teeth to defend their people against oppression from anybody, be it military or police.

Nigeria army and Nigeria police should learn the art of diplomacy and stop intimidating people and oppressing people because they have the instrumentality of force, guns.
To your own reasoning, does the nature of their mission justifies killing any service Men by civilians.
At least from another post online, the community claimed they want to arrest 3 of their chiefs and they killed 500 people of the community, while they were escaping they were ambushed by militants. If your argument is they(Nigeria Army) were their for a sinister reason.
Read and reread this part, they killed government agents in their line of duty. Which is a criminal offence, irrespective of what mission they are their for.
So if the government come down on them with the might of government, I guess the narrative will change.
Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by LandMann: 6:45am On Mar 18
talk2hb1:

To your own reasoning, does the nature of their mission justifies killing any service Men by civilians.
At least from another post online, the community claimed they want to arrest 3 of their chiefs and they killed 500 people of the community, while they were escaping they were ambushed by militants. If your argument is they(Nigeria Army) were their for a sinister reason.
Read and reread this part, they killed government agents in their line of duty. Which is a criminal offence, irrespective of what mission they are their for.
So if the government come down on them with the might of government, I guess the narrative will change.

Only a fool will believe that those soldiers were killed simply for going there to broker piece.

I'm 100% sure that the Nigerian army did something nasty there to warrant the retaliation from the community. Again, the army men could have been killed by people from the other community just to setup the community were the soldiers went... doing this would definitely cause problem for the community were the soldiers went, and of course they'll get all the lands once the army helps them fight their fight

In all, the army should never have been there. There's nowhere in the constitution that says the army should meddle in civil dispute.

The army brought the carnage upon themselves unfortunately

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Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by Deltancapo: 6:56am On Mar 18
Dogalmighty17:
Emotions and sentiments are undoubtedly running high at the moment. Particularly within the armed forces and those who for one reason or the other, want to play on the sensibilities of Nigerians and to also give the army a bad name.

I am by no means holding brief for the Nigerian army. It is not my place to do that. But let's keep sentiments aside.

1. It is not a thing of debate why the army was in that location in the first place. It is also not in debate that the Nigerian army lost officers and men in a cowardly ambush when they went for a peace mission in Okuama community.

2. It has been reported that the communities were engaged in land dispute and a member of an opposing community, was kidnapped. Officers of the Nigerian army undertook it upon themselves to visit that community and see how a peaceful resolution could be wrought. That ended up to be their mistake.

3. Videos are flying around purportedly showing supposed Nigerian army soldiers setting the community on fire. This is very far from the truth.

For the first time in a long while, when news of the deaths of the officers broke, in all the bedlam, the army spokesman, released a statement that detailed investigation will be undertaken and those behind the Killings will be brought to book. That release had barely made the rounds in the press before videos of supposed Nigerian army soldiers setting fire to houses in the community, started making the rounds.

Let's consider this angle. After agents of that community in the land dispute killed those officers, were we expecting that the inhabitants of that community remain in place? Of course not! They fled. And by fleeing, they gave room to the community they were in dispute with to come and set fire to their homes. This to ensure that they don't return.

Secondly, the level of fire power deployed in this assault, shows a carefully planned arrangement. The killers were expecting the soldiers and they positioned themselves accordingly. The result of the peace keeping mission would have been immaterial. Those soldiers would have been killed anyway.

Which begs the question. Who is it that stands to benefit from these Killings? Are these people who seek to distabilize the current government? Is it not rather surprising that it is now that Nigeria is beginning to export higher volumes of crude that this incident happened?

Are there people that hate this government so much that causing instability in the Niger-Delta and the armed forces is a low that is not beyond them?

The army has been stationed close to that community for years now. If the army had been a terror to the peace of that community, the world would have heard it long before now.

My sympathies to the families who are grieving as a result of this senseless killing.

They should level up everywhere and turn it into army barracks.
Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by talk2hb1(m): 7:00am On Mar 18
LandMann:


Only a fool will believe that those soldiers were killed simply for going there to broker piece.

I'm 100% sure that the Nigerian army did something nasty there to warrant the retaliation from the community.
Was Their any evidence to back it up?

Again, the army men could have been killed by people from the other community just to setup the community were the soldiers went...
Investigation is ongoing
doing this would definitely cause problem for the community were the soldiers went, and of course they'll get all the lands once the army helps them fight their fight
Strategic thinking, let others do the work but take the credit

In all, the army should never have been there.
There's nowhere in the constitution that says the army should meddle in civil dispute.
This is a National Matter which is beyond domestic issue, if you don't understand. They can be anywhere, they are Nigeria Army not selected location Army
The army brought the carnage upon themselves unfortunately
You don't understand the law as you claimed,
They killed Soldiers of Nigeria Army which is an act of war if you don't know.

Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by FreedomArmy: 7:03am On Mar 18
APC people are the worst set of human in this universe. Imagine the lies. May God reward you accordingly.
For the dead soldiers I have only one thing to say. It is all your fault. Flexing muscles on southerners will always lead to scenarios like this.

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Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by EmiloCorn: 7:19am On Mar 18
FreedomArmy:
APC people are the worst set of human in this universe. Imagine the lies. May God reward you accordingly.
For the dead soldiers I have only one thing to say. It is all your fault. Flexing muscles on southerners will always lead to scenarios like this.

What brought about all these ones @ bolded above? angry

Be careful oh, I will report you
Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by FreedomArmy: 7:26am On Mar 18
EmiloCorn:


What brought about all these ones @ bolded above? angry

Be careful oh, I will report you
are you an APC member?
Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by EmiloCorn: 7:37am On Mar 18
FreedomArmy:
are you an APC member?

I am an ELITE ApC member cool
Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by mrvitalis(m): 7:48am On Mar 18
Dogalmighty17:
Emotions and sentiments are undoubtedly running high at the moment. Particularly within the armed forces and those who for one reason or the other, want to play on the sensibilities of Nigerians and to also give the army a bad name.

I am by no means holding brief for the Nigerian army. It is not my place to do that. But let's keep sentiments aside.

1. It is not a thing of debate why the army was in that location in the first place. It is also not in debate that the Nigerian army lost officers and men in a cowardly ambush when they went for a peace mission in Okuama community.

2. It has been reported that the communities were engaged in land dispute and a member of an opposing community, was kidnapped. Officers of the Nigerian army undertook it upon themselves to visit that community and see how a peaceful resolution could be wrought. That ended up to be their mistake.

3. Videos are flying around purportedly showing supposed Nigerian army soldiers setting the community on fire. This is very far from the truth.

For the first time in a long while, when news of the deaths of the officers broke, in all the bedlam, the army spokesman, released a statement that detailed investigation will be undertaken and those behind the Killings will be brought to book. That release had barely made the rounds in the press before videos of supposed Nigerian army soldiers setting fire to houses in the community, started making the rounds.

Let's consider this angle. After agents of that community in the land dispute killed those officers, were we expecting that the inhabitants of that community remain in place? Of course not! They fled. And by fleeing, they gave room to the community they were in dispute with to come and set fire to their homes. This to ensure that they don't return.

Secondly, the level of fire power deployed in this assault, shows a carefully planned arrangement. The killers were expecting the soldiers and they positioned themselves accordingly. The result of the peace keeping mission would have been immaterial. Those soldiers would have been killed anyway.

Which begs the question. Who is it that stands to benefit from these Killings? Are these people who seek to distabilize the current government? Is it not rather surprising that it is now that Nigeria is beginning to export higher volumes of crude that this incident happened?

Are there people that hate this government so much that causing instability in the Niger-Delta and the armed forces is a low that is not beyond them?

The army has been stationed close to that community for years now. If the army had been a terror to the peace of that community, the world would have heard it long before now.

My sympathies to the families who are grieving as a result of this senseless killing.
Are you saying the Nigerian Army personnel didn't set the village on fire? ... Are you really saying that?
Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by FreedomArmy: 7:54am On Mar 18
EmiloCorn:


I am an ELITE ApC member cool
oya na enjoy your retaliation
Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by kettykin: 7:58am On Mar 18
My own is that they should not start another ugm in that axis, by the time you kill innocent young men and their brothers pick up arms, don't come and be weeping on social media.

We are all aware of how hard it was to persuade ugm in the east to calm down and let peace reign
Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by LandMann: 8:01am On Mar 18
[quote author=talk2hb1 post=128979931][/quote]

You don't need evidence need evidence to prove that people whose houses are being burnt did the killing but you need evidence to show that the army intimidated, provoked, harassed or did something nasty in that community before meeting their untimely death. Do you see how one sided your reasoning is?

How many times have you heard in the news that the US or UK or Canada army went to settle a communal dispute without the knowledge of the president?

You live in a banana republic called Nigeria where everyone behaves senselessly and take laws into their own hands once they perceive they have the instrument of power behind them (guns, government, money and uniform). So I don't expect you to understand the law or how normal people behave and resolve civil dispute.

For the army to be called to resolve civil dispute, it shows how weak the institution of policing is in Nigeria. People have little or no faith in the police, that is why they run to the army whose core mandate is the protection and preservation of the territorial integrity of Nigeria against any external aggression, except during civil war.

It's pointless explaining things to you since you believe it is right for the army to be meddling in civil disputes. One day, your neighbour or someone else will call the army to deal with you. That is the day you'll remember this day.
Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by Cindypresh(f): 8:34am On Mar 18
Exousiang01:


If you are ignorant of something don't you think it's best to get information instead this display?
You have been in Nigeria, I mean you have been on this planet and you have never heard of the army going on peace keeping missions?
How do you expect the peace to be kept if the waring communities don't settle their differences peacefully?

This na basic knowledge and You supposed to be educated

Peace keeping mission for two communities dragging land?? Nah you're the ignorant proud one here.

You aren't educated either

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Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by kalufelix(m): 9:42am On Mar 18
The original poster made a lot of zero sense...so your service men have right to intimidate its citizens because they have government authourity..
Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by Talkisneeded: 11:33am On Mar 18
Deltancapo:


They should level up everywhere and turn it into army barracks.

Look at your excitement at the thought of killing over hundred of people
Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by Exousiang01: 1:04pm On Mar 18
Cindypresh:


Peace keeping mission for two communities dragging land?? Nah you're the ignorant proud one here.

You aren't educated either

Lol
The entire Country is ignorant except you because Nigeria Army has been the ones carrying this exercise over the years.
You who doesn't know is calling me ignorant.
Every time we have these issues in anypart of the country it has been the NA.
The confidence you attach to ignorance sha....
Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by Deltancapo: 1:29pm On Mar 18
Talkisneeded:


Look at your excitement at the thought of killing over hundred of people

We're you not among them happy when Israel terrorist army killing Palestinians for their land.

Ijaw has crossed the red line.
Re: Okuama Killings: Before We Blame The Army. by Talkisneeded: 2:18pm On Mar 18
Deltancapo:


We're you not among them happy when Israel terrorist army killing Palestinians for their land.

Ijaw has crossed the red line.

I don't even spare a thought for killings fuelled by religious sentiments..
Wetin be my own with Israel and Palestine...
Let's keep it at home,the reprisal attack that you are clamouring for is genocidal and should be shunned..

I sell herbs joor

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