If God is a Spirit...

How would the members of a street welcome exPresident Obama if he were to pay them a visit.

They would want to display their culture with singing, praising, dancing, foods on display, traditional attires etcetera etcetera

Heck! The local Government chairman would be on standby ready to welcome Ex president Obama

But Obama is just a man. An ordinary man that can miss his steps, hit his head on a rock and die...thats whom all these songs and praise is for

We have all witnessed the arrangements made when E.A Adeboye is about to pay a visit to a community. All preparations are made up to date, down to the microphone and speakers Adeboye will use to address the crowd

But E.A Adeboye is just a man too

a man who you can see and touch
same as Obama...

Now imagine a Mighty spirit who created you and all you will ever know...how would you praise and glorify such a spirit. You want to glorify this mighty spirit the same way you glorified those ordinary mortal men


WOW. thats BOLD of you

You want to gather in a crowd and sing and dance for this spirit. lolzzzz

You want to pray in loud voices for a spirit you dont see but whom sees your heart and inner most thoughts

No. You got it all wrong. But that was then. not now anymore




Your missing Link:

Since man is a physical being, You worship man in ways that man will see and acknowledge


And since God is a spirit being, you worship a spirit in ways that a spirit will see and acknowledge

What are those things that a spirit can see and acknowledge you might ask


The things which a spirit can see and acknowledge are those things which man CANT SEE AND ACKNOWLEDGE: your thoughts and secret actions.

ta-da

if you observed well, i didnt write thoughts, *words* and secret actions
i excluded 'words' because your thoughts reflects in your words. If you werent thinking it, you would never have said it


In closing, its spirit paired with spirit and flesh paired with flesh.

what really made you think your public display of givings and loud kabashing 'die by fire' is gonna be acknowledged by a spirit that doesnt have your human limited ears and human limited eyesight.

***Didnt Elisha open his servant spiritual eyes to see that they were surrounded by heavenly armies compared to the mortal soldiers that surrounded them . What Elisha had been seeing all along wasnt what his servant was seeing. Man and mortal sense organ is limited


If you wanna praise a mortal king, shower him with loud praises and talking drum beats but if you really want to glorify a spirit, go into a secret place where no man sees you and appreciate such a spirit...praise and appreciate that Mighty Spirit where no man sees you... give without announcing your gifts to any man and then and only then would such a spirit acknowledge you

You want to know why

Because man DID NOT see you.
now you know why the loudest prayer is the weakest prayer. Exactly
Because you prayed to the hearing of man. Spirits dont have man ears. but they can read your hearts and true intentions. Count how many men can do such


Strive to Worship God in truth and IN SPIRIT henceforth so you dont waste your precious time singing praises and praying to your pastors


One love People

In reference to scriptures,

Sing, O daughter of Zion;
shout aloud, O Israel!
Be glad and rejoice with all your heart,
O daughter of Jerusalem!

Singing aloud can break walls of jericho, it doesn't mean you are praising a pastor.
It is true as you have written that God should be worshiped in spirit and in truth, yes, your heart and intentions must be well set with God in the secret place then your public display would have good meaning.

If you are a dweller in the secret place of the Most High, you are instructed to let your so shine before men that ALL would see... It's important for all to see, the only thing is that you should be acknowledged by God that the light you display is one He commends.

It's all in the heart. Let God that sees the heart judge the real or the fake.

When Lazarus died, Christ prayed in the public to God, thanking Him and commanding Lazarus out... that was to display God's glory. Elijah made a public disgrace to other gods by calling on God to send down fire...

In summary, if you are praying, praising or whatever in public, do it with the right heart, do it to the glory of God...
Its an helmet of salvation, a full armour, you get dressed with it in secret and you come outside to brandish it, you can't leave the armour in the secret there because you don't want to seem like you are praising your pastor...

IAmHim1:
If God is a Spirit...

How would the members of a street welcome exPresident Obama if he were to pay them a visit.

They would want to display their culture with singing, praising, dancing, foods on display, traditional attires etcetera etcetera

Heck! The local Government chairman would be on standby ready to welcome Ex president Obama

But Obama is just a man. An ordinary man that can miss his steps, hit his head on a rock and die...thats whom all these songs and praise is for

We have all witnessed the arrangements made when E.A Adeboye is about to pay a visit to a community. All preparations are made up to date, down to the microphone and speakers Adeboye will use to address the crowd

But E.A Adeboye is just a man too

a man who you can see and touch
same as Obama...

Now imagine a Mighty spirit who created you and all you will ever know...how would you praise and glorify such a spirit. You want to glorify this mighty spirit the same way you glorified those ordinary mortal men


WOW. thats BOLD of you

You want to gather in a crowd and sing and dance for this spirit. lolzzzz

You want to pray in loud voices for a spirit you dont see but whom sees your heart and inner most thoughts

No. You got it all wrong. But that was then. not now anymore




Your missing Link:

Since man is a physical being, You worship man in ways that man will see and acknowledge


And since God is a spirit being, you worship a spirit in ways that a spirit will see and acknowledge

What are those things that a spirit can see and acknowledge you might ask


The things which a spirit can see and acknowledge are those things which man CANT SEE AND ACKNOWLEDGE: your thoughts and secret actions.

ta-da

if you observed well, i didnt write thoughts, *words* and secret actions
i excluded 'words' because your thoughts reflects in your words. If you werent thinking it, you would never have said it


In closing, its spirit paired with spirit and flesh paired with flesh.

what really made you think your public display of givings and loud kabashing 'die by fire' is gonna be acknowledged by a spirit that doesnt have your human limited ears and human limited eyesight.

***Didnt Elisha open his servant spiritual eyes to see that they were surrounded by heavenly armies compared to the mortal soldiers that surrounded them . What Elisha had been seeing all along wasnt what his servant was seeing. Man and mortal sense organ is limited


If you wanna praise a mortal king, shower him with loud praises and talking drum beats but if you really want to glorify a spirit, go into a secret place where no man sees you and appreciate such a spirit...praise and appreciate that Mighty Spirit where no man sees you... give without announcing your gifts to any man and then and only then would such a spirit acknowledge you

You want to know why

Because man DID NOT see you.
now you know why the loudest prayer is the weakest prayer. Exactly
Because you prayed to the hearing of man. Spirits dont have man ears. but they can read your hearts and true intentions. Count how many men can do such


Strive to Worship God in truth and IN SPIRIT henceforth so you dont waste your precious time singing praises and praying to your pastors


One love People

BeatriceChide:
∆ In reference to scriptures,

Sing, O daughter of Zion;
shout aloud, O Israel!
Be glad and rejoice with all your heart,
O daughter of Jerusalem!

Singing aloud can break walls of jericho, it doesn't mean you are praising a pastor.
It is true as you have written that God should be worshiped in spirit and in truth, yes, your heart and intentions must be well set with God in the secret place then your public display would have good meaning.

∆ If you are a dweller in the secret place of the Most High, you are instructed to let your so shine before men that ALL would see... It's important for all to see, the only thing is that you should be acknowledged by God that the light you display is one He commends.
It's all in the heart. Let God that sees the heart judge the real or the fake.
∆ When Lazarus died, Christ prayed in the public to God, thanking Him and commanding Lazarus out... that was to display God's glory.
∆ Elijah made a public disgrace to other gods by calling on God to send down fire...
∆ In summary, if you are praying, praising or whatever in public, do it with the right heart, do it to the glory of God...
Its an helmet of salvation, a full armour, you get dressed with it in secret and you come outside to brandish it, you can't leave the armour in the secret there because you don't want to seem like you are praising your pastor...

1. That is bloody lie! Singing a loud DOES NOT break walls particular solid monuments. Rather, what broke the of Jericho was instead OBEDIENCE to God's Commands which was for the people to cry aloud at that particular time, something that has nothing to do with the verse you instead posted.

At the time that the fall of Jericho happened, Zion did not exist, nor did Jerusalem.

2. Those who dwell in the secret place of the most High, like David, are those who have through continuous submission and obedience to God's Law been approved Holy and Righteous by the God of Israel. David was able to achieve that as a young man --- God referred to Him as a man after His own heart -- before he was later anointed King of Israel. These things are nothing to do with the heart but with actual actions all in obedience to God's Law.

3. Christ's public prayer was sanctioned by God's Old Law which had no requirement that His followers instead pray in hiding and in secret. in the New Law, such public prayers are sins against God.

4. In the New Covenant/Law, a Elijah's public condemnation is not allowed. Why? Because Jesus Christ commanded His followers to instead show love to their enemies and never fight back against them.

The Old Law of Moses existed as the National Constitution in God's Nation of Israel in the land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God is a different and separate nation. And it is against God to have one foot in one agreement and the other foot in another agreement.

5. On the contrary, your public religious displays are instead an abomination to the God of Israel, and His Son, Jesus Christ, who command the opposite from His followers.

If you truly believe ALL of what you wrote, then you have known all these while how UTTERLY POINTLESS CHURCH BUILDINGS ARE



let that digest for a minute.

The ONLY difference between church building and your bedroom (neatly arranged and clean) is just the fact that you pay offering and tithe publicly to rent the place you PHYSICAL use to worship a SPIRITUAL BEING

And let no man or woman deceive himself or herself.

THE offering you gave in Church IS NOT TO GOD ALMIGHTY. it was for the pastor and co to pay the salary of this associates and feed well. Yes they make some few donations here and there to orphanages but once again, the best way to hide a tree is inside a forest. The best place to fart is in the toilet and the best way to hide a lie is IN BETWEEN two truths

Exactly. Who would be able to tell


GOD doesn't need physical money NEITHER DOES HE spend physical money(he created the person that even made the physical money in the first place!!!!) AND at that point, IT DOESN'T MATTER THE HEART YOU USED TO GIVE THE OFFERING OR TITHES in Church. What matters is this: what's the purpose of my offerings and tithes

Exactly!

To help the less privileged. SIMPLE
The reason you have that mouth watering job or that job that pays you well was because you were born into that family that valued education or because God connected you to people that made your educational journey smoother than it would OR SHOULD have been

it's not because you read well or because you're smart.
There are smart okada men. And most intelligent people are in the graveyards rotting away now

Now ask yourself, how many beggars and cripples did you pass on your way to that church building.

Are they not the people you want to help. Did you stop to give them any money. You say they will use your money for rituals AND THATS JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW RITUALS WORK. ta-da!

and that why the heart you used in giving matters. This THIS Right here is when the heart you used in giving matters. Not putting your Money in a place you know it won't be utilized well and hoping a miracle happens because of your pure heart.

Your general overseer has used your money to build schools and billion dollar projects. How many of you can send your children to those schools. But you all contributed to building that school.

Imagine a share holder that was cheated out of their right lolzzzz. Whatever your church owns is for you. SEIZE IT NOW!!!

That was the secret behind the widows mite story in the bible. The heart used in the giving

If you gave to beggars and cripples with the purest of your heart to genuinely help them, then THERE IS NOWHERE THEY WILL TAKE YIUR MONEY TO THAT WILL BRING ANY NEGATIVE THING TO YOU. you can sleep on that. Highest, they might try to send death yo you BUT it will come to you as headache or migraine and that's all. You take Panadol and you get okay.

There are rules to the spiritual world. Witches know this and THEY MUST PLAY TO THE RULES

you want to know how I know this.
By Helpyourself post and thread and this simple understanding: FREEDOM COMES WITH LIMITATIONS . for you to be free, you have to keep doing the things that makes you free if not, you lose your freedom.
Example: you're free to drive your car on the road BUT you are not free to pass the speed limit of that road. That's the limitations. And such limitations is applied to witchcraft too. So don't be afraid of giving to beggars and cripples and people who you feel really needs your help

The offering and tithe you're paying in Church is just you ignorantly renting the church space you use to praise and worship a Spirit.

but you paid rent at home but you are afraid to use your home to praise God. Lolzzzz

Just try Make your room clean and you're good to go.

You don't need the church, the church needs you
God DONT NEED YOU. YOU NEED GOD

YOU shouldn't be saying 'God is worthy of your praise'
You should be asking if you yourself are even worthy to praise God. Remember, Being alive is a privilege from the Creator, NOT YOUR RIGHT as an ordinary mortal human

That's your positive mind shift there. You're welcome

BeatriceChide:
In reference to scriptures,

Sing, O daughter of Zion;
shout aloud, O Israel!
Be glad and rejoice with all your heart,
O daughter of Jerusalem!

Singing aloud can break walls of jericho, it doesn't mean you are praising a pastor.
It is true as you have written that God should be worshiped in spirit and in truth, yes, your heart and intentions must be well set with God in the secret place then your public display would have good meaning.

If you are a dweller in the secret place of the Most High, you are instructed to let your so shine before men that ALL would see... It's important for all to see, the only thing is that you should be acknowledged by God that the light you display is one He commends.

It's all in the heart. Let God that sees the heart judge the real or the fake.

When Lazarus died, Christ prayed in the public to God, thanking Him and commanding Lazarus out... that was to display God's glory. Elijah made a public disgrace to other gods by calling on God to send down fire...

In summary, if you are praying, praising or whatever in public, do it with the right heart, do it to the glory of God...
Its an helmet of salvation, a full armour, you get dressed with it in secret and you come outside to brandish it, you can't leave the armour in the secret there because you don't want to seem like you are praising your pastor...

Kobojunkie:
1. That is bloody lie! Singing a loud DOES NOT break walls particular solid monuments. Rather, what broke the of Jericho was instead OBEDIENCE to God's Commands which was for the people to cry aloud at that particular time, something that has nothing to do with the verse you instead posted.

At the time that the fall of Jericho happened, Zion did not exist, nor did Jerusalem.

2. Those who dwell in the secret place of the most High, like David, are those who have through continuous submission and obedience to God's Law been approved Holy and Righteous by the God of Israel. David was able to achieve that as a young man --- God referred to Him as a man after His own heart -- before he was later anointed King of Israel. These things are nothing to do with the heart but with actual actions all in obedience to God's Law.

3. Christ's public prayer was sanctioned by God's Old Law which had no requirement that His followers instead pray in hiding and in secret. in the New Law, such public prayers are sins against God.

4. In the New Covenant/Law, a Elijah's public condemnation is not allowed. Why? Because Jesus Christ commanded His followers to instead show love to their enemies and never fight back against them.

The Old Law of Moses existed as the National Constitution in God's Nation of Israel in the land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God is a different and separate nation. And it is against God to have one foot in one agreement and the other foot in another agreement.

5. On the contrary, your public religious displays are instead an abomination to the God of Israel, and His Son, Jesus Christ, who command the opposite from His followers.

Everything you do in Christ that produces result should be an instruction from God. Whether by shouting or stepping into the river to part, or whatever, in all, position yourself to receive instructions from God and if He says you should sing aloud, do.
Whatever works for you, let it be to God's glory.

IAmHim1:
If you truly believe ALL of what you wrote, then you have known all these while how UTTERLY POINTLESS CHURCH BUILDINGS ARE



let that digest for a minute.

The ONLY difference between church building and your bedroom (neatly arranged and clean) is just the fact that you pay offering and tithe publicly to rent the place you PHYSICAL use to worship a SPIRITUAL BEING

And let no man or woman deceive himself or herself.

THE offering you gave in Church IS NOT TO GOD ALMIGHTY. it was for the pastor and co to pay the salary of this associates and feed well. Yes they make some few donations here and there to orphanages but once again, the best way to hide a tree is inside a forest. The best place to fart is in the toilet and the best way to hide a lie is IN BETWEEN two truths

Exactly. Who would be able to tell


GOD doesn't need physical money NEITHER DOES HE spend physical money(he created the person that even made the physical money in the first place!!!!) AND at that point, IT DOESN'T MATTER THE HEART YOU USED TO GIVE THE OFFERING OR TITHES in Church. What matters is this: what's the purpose of my offerings and tithes

Exactly!

To help the less privileged. SIMPLE
The reason you have that mouth watering job or that job that pays you well was because you were born into that family that valued education or because God connected you to people that made your educational journey smoother than it would OR SHOULD have been

it's not because you read well or because you're smart.
There are smart okada men. And most intelligent people are in the graveyards rotting away now

Now ask yourself, how many beggars and cripples did you pass on your way to that church building.

Are they not the people you want to help. Did you stop to give them any money. You say they will use your money for rituals AND THATS JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW RITUALS WORK. ta-da!

and that why the heart you used in giving matters. This THIS Right here is when the heart you used in giving matters. Not putting your Money in a place you know it won't be utilized well and hoping a miracle happens because of your pure heart.

Your general overseer has used your money to build schools and billion dollar projects. How many of you can send your children to those schools. But you all contributed to building that school.

Imagine a share holder that was cheated out of their right lolzzzz. Whatever your church owns is for you. SEIZE IT NOW!!!

That was the secret behind the widows mite story in the bible. The heart used in the giving

If you gave to beggars and cripples with the purest of your heart to genuinely help them, then THERE IS NOWHERE THEY WILL TAKE YIUR MONEY TO THAT WILL BRING ANY NEGATIVE THING TO YOU. you can sleep on that. Highest, they might try to send death yo you BUT it will come to you as headache or migraine and that's all. You take Panadol and you get okay.

There are rules to the spiritual world. Witches know this and THEY MUST PLAY TO THE RULES

you want to know how I know this.
By Helpyourself post and thread and this simple understanding: FREEDOM COMES WITH LIMITATIONS . for you to be free, you have to keep doing the things that makes you free if not, you lose your freedom.
Example: you're free to drive your car on the road BUT you are not free to pass the speed limit of that road. That's the limitations. And such limitations is applied to witchcraft too. So don't be afraid of giving to beggars and cripples and people who you feel really needs your help

The offering and tithe you're paying in Church is just you ignorantly renting the church space you use to praise and worship a Spirit.

but you paid rent at home but you are afraid to use your home to praise God. Lolzzzz

Just try Make your room clean and you're good to go.

You don't need the church, the church needs you
God DONT NEED YOU. YOU NEED GOD

YOU shouldn't be saying 'God is worthy of your praise'
You should be asking if you yourself are even worthy to praise God. Remember, Being alive is a privilege from the Creator, NOT YOUR RIGHT as an ordinary mortal human

That's your positive mind shift there. You're welcome

Well, I pay tithes and it has been an amazing one for me... I was instructed by God to do some kind of giving and before the end of the period, my finances tripled.
Even when I didn't have enough, just ask me, I fit give my last card and God has been faithful.
At some point, I gave 20% of tithes.

Am I being deceived by these "pastors"?
Well, I'm old enough to be responsible for my foolishness if it is true that a pastor is somewhere cajoling me... and I'm also responsible for how I manage the finances God gave me.

That being said, everyone is entitled to their valid opinions, and people mostly live their lives based on what they experienced, their backgrounds, point of views.
So no hard feelings, whatever works for you.

E go be ✌

BeatriceChide:
∆ Everything you do in Christ that produces result should be an instruction from God. Whether by shouting or stepping into the river to part, or whatever, in all, position yourself to receive instructions from God and if He says you should sing aloud, do. Whatever works for you, let it be to God's glory.

The Commandments and Teachings of Jesus Christ that are meant to produce those results you speak of are contained right there in the Gospels. Jesus Christ will never give you or I any other different commandments and teachings other than those very same ones. There are no different instructions for different individuals. It is the same exact set of instructions --- commandments and Teachings -- that are there in the Law/agreement for Mr. A that is equally available for everyone else. so there is nothing personal about the Salvation that is Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
The Commandments and Teachings of Jesus Christ that are meant to produce those results you speak of are contained right there in the Gospels. Jesus Christ will never give you or I any other different commandments and teachings other than those very same ones. There are no different instructions for different individuals. It is the same exact set of instructions --- commandments and Teachings -- that are there in the Law/agreement for Mr. A that is equally available for everyone else. so there is nothing personal about the Salvation that is Jesus Christ.

👏 wisdom is profitable to direct.

Give your money to those who truly needs it.

Deep down, you know those who truly need it.

Dont do all of this here please

BeatriceChide:



Well, I pay tithes and it has been an amazing one for me... I was instructed by God to do some kind of giving and before the end of the period, my finances tripled.
Even when I didn't have enough, just ask me, I fit give my last card and God has been faithful.
At some point, I gave 20% of tithes.

Am I being deceived by these "pastors"?
Well, I'm old enough to be responsible for my foolishness if it is true that a pastor is somewhere cajoling me... and I'm also responsible for how I manage the finances God gave me.

That being said, everyone is entitled to their valid opinions, and people mostly live their lives based on what they experienced, their backgrounds, point of views.
So no hard feelings, whatever works for you.

E go be ✌

I love the end of your comment. It speaks equality

"It is the same exact set of instructions --- commandments and Teachings -- that are there in the Law/agreement for Mr. A that is equally available for everyone else. so there is nothing personal about the Salvation that is Jesus Christ"

Christians believing they are the corner stone of the world is utterly wrong.

But if only you knew that Jesus wasn't the only prophet that was sent by God to man. Prophet Mohammed was too.
All message of these prophets before it was edited by man for their selfish reasons was AND is geared towards ONE : love your neighbours as you love yourself and Love God...in truth and in spirit

Any other stuffs is a waste of your precious time.


Christians,. Muslims, Buddhist, abc and xyz are all one created by One. Religion was just made to divide us

Any part of your religion that gives you an easy way out of your sins( for instance Christians Believe in an imaginary blood of christ while SOME Muslims believe in 72 virgins) is bull Sheet.
Whatever your do, good or bad, there are repercussions and we will all use our head to carry our rewards and punishments. No easy way out. Sorry lolzzzz

I'll let that sink in..

Kobojunkie:

The Commandments and Teachings of Jesus Christ that are meant to produce those results you speak of are contained right there in the Gospels. Jesus Christ will never give you or I any other different commandments and teachings other than those very same ones. There are no different instructions for different individuals. It is the same exact set of instructions --- commandments and Teachings -- that are there in the Law/agreement for Mr. A that is equally available for everyone else. so there is nothing personal about the Salvation that is Jesus Christ.

BeatriceChide:
■ Well, I pay tithes and it has been an amazing one for me... I was instructed by God to do some kind of giving and before the end of the period, my finances tripled. Even when I didn't have enough, just ask me, I fit give my last card and God has been faithful. At some point, I gave 20% of tithes.
Am I being deceived by these "pastors"? Well, I'm old enough to be responsible for my foolishness if it is true that a pastor is somewhere cajoling me... and I'm also responsible for how I manage the finances God gave me. That being said, everyone is entitled to their valid opinions, and people mostly live their lives based on what they experienced, their backgrounds, point of views.
So no hard feelings, whatever works for you. E go be ✌

1. Jesus Christ whose Gospels — almost 2000 years old teachings and commandments — that comprise God's Law do not include any instructions instructing any of His followers to pay tithe to anyone. He said those of His followers who love Him are those of them who obey His instructions — His teachings and commandments alone. This means the following
▶ when you obey commandments or instructions that are not part of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, you do not do so out of love for Jesus Christ or His Father at all.
▶ when you use the name of Jesus Christ or His Father to obey instructions that are not part of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ you sin against God.

The only reason you pay tithe which is an instruction that comes, not from Jesus Christ but from your pastors, and you do so using the name of God and of Jesus Christ(again but of whom never asked you to do so in their name) is because you are not of Jesus Christ, and certainly not of His Father.

IAmHim1:
■ I love the end of your comment. It speaks equality "It is the same exact set of instructions --- commandments and Teachings -- that are there in the Law/agreement for Mr. A that is equally available for everyone else. so there is nothing personal about the Salvation that is Jesus Christ" Christians believing they are the corner stone of the world is utterly wrong. But if only you knew that Jesus wasn't the only prophet that was sent by God to man. Prophet Mohammed was too.
■ All message of these prophets before it was edited by man for their selfish reasons was AND is geared towards ONE : love your neighbours as you love yourself and Love God...in truth and in spirit
■ Any other stuffs is a waste of your precious time.
■ Christians,. Muslims, Buddhist, abc and xyz are all one created by One. Religion was just made to divide us
■ Any part of your religion that gives you an easy way out of your sins( for instance Christians Believe in an imaginary blood of christ while SOME Muslims believe in 72 virgins) is bull Sheet. Whatever your do, good or bad, there are repercussions and we will all use our head to carry our rewards and punishments. No easy way out. Sorry lolzzzz I'll let that sink in..

1. There is no evidence or backing for the claim that Mohammed was sent by the God of Israel — YHWH. Why? Because the God of Israel stipulated in His Law that
▶ Israel would be His only inheritance in the Land of men meaning that Israel is His only chosen people.
▶ The God of Israel committed Himself to sending Prophets to the people of Israel in response to their direct request for prophets from among their brethren. (All prophets had to be born of the blood of Jacob.)
▶ The God of Israel committed Himself to send Prophets who would serve as emissaries on behalf of His people, Israel to the Nations.
▶ The God of Israel promised that the Davidic Covenant He made with David would herald the end and final Judgment of His against Israel(including Judah) and all the Nations that surrounded them. Through His many Prophets, including David, He announced that when He sends His Last Prophet, that would also signal the final days aka EndTime.

Mohammed was not an israelite and he arrived more than 500 years after the Endtime of God of Israel. He never qualified under the Law set by the God of Israel as a prophet and he never did embody any of that which was expected.

2. This is untrue or a self-delusion. The famous "Love your neighbor" commandment has always been a part of the Law of Moses, where it remains to this day. Jesus Christ quoted it in response to a question asked of Him by the Pharisees DOES NOT mean Jesus Christ is the one who first said it.

18 Forget about the wrong things people do to you. Don’t try to get even. Love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord. - Leviticus 19 vs 18

And no, not all the prophets preached that at all, so don't make statements that you have no understanding of.

3. Then clearly, you don't care for what God of Israel has to say, do you? But do you think it is your place to assert your opinion over God's very own Law?

4. Sadly, there is absolutely no truth to this claim of yours! There are over 40,000 gods/deities out there. To suggest they are all the same is human hubris and nothing more.

If I walked into a room of 20 different people. Common sense would inform me right from the entrance not to make the mistake of assuming all 20 individuals in the room are the same — same speech patterns, same likes and dislikes, same, temperaments/dispositions, etc. — I would only make a fool of myself if I decided to see them all as the same and treat them all exactly to my very own choosing. Why then would any rational being out there think it would make sense to lump all deities together and consider them all the same?

Your problem, just like some people reading this now, and like me a long time ago, is you all think the Bible is complete


Remember, people were once burned for holding books TALKLESS OF BIBLES lolzzzz

Think Kobojunkie

The Catholic church locks its Vatican making it THE MOST SECURED PLACE ON THIS EARTH BUT, they decide to give you all the Bible for free

And guess what again!

The church isn't taxed. But all your business is taxed. Why free the church...
You think it's because they care about your spiritual health

Haba!!!!!

What happened

If the powers that be really want you to have 'knowledge', there would be no place with books and history of the entire corners of the world that would be under lock and keys...so much that it is known as one of the MOST SECURED PLACE ON EARTH

Google the Vatican security and Google what it contains AND Google who owns the Vatican archives


read the Bible with a pinch of salt HENCEFORTH. Whatever part of the Bible that :

1) makes you feel entitled as a Christian

2) Tries to put asunder between you and other religions in ways that promotes unnecessary disunity

3) tries to deceive you about an easy way out from your sins like the BIG lie that Jesus came to die for our sins( and I discussed this in my other topic titled 'THAT FLAW IN CHRISTIANITY'

just know that you are being deceived!!!

And this is just the three points I can remember o. Lolzzzz

Just sit and ask questions

Locked Vatican containing books but free Bible...WHY?
The only reason they would give you the Bible for free is because they are sure that it doesn't contain anything important that they wouldn't want to be exposed...that's why they tell you 'the Bible has many mysteries. If you pray very well, the holy spirit will reveal the secrets of the Bible to you.' lolzzzz

The same Bible secrets that they themselves physically edited from the Bible lolzzzzz

Think! All of you reading this... please sit down and deeply think about this

Kobojunkie:
1. There is no evidence or backing for the claim that Mohammed was sent by the God of Israel — YHWH. Why? Because the God of Israel stipulated in His Law that
▶ Israel would be His only inheritance in the Land of men meaning that Israel is His only chosen people.
▶ The God of Israel committed Himself to sending Prophets to the people of Israel in response to their direct request for prophets from among their brethren. (All prophets had to be born of the blood of Jacob.)
▶ The God of Israel committed Himself to send Prophets who would serve as emissaries on behalf of His people, Israel to the Nations.
▶ The God of Israel promised that the Davidic Covenant He made with David would herald the end and final Judgment of His against Israel(including Judah) and all the Nations that surrounded them. Through His many Prophets, including David, He announced that when He sends His Last Prophet, that would also signal the final days aka EndTime.

Mohammed was not an israelite and he arrived more than 500 years after the Endtime of God of Israel. He never qualified under the Law set by the God of Israel as a prophet and he never did embody any of that which was expected.

2. This is untrue or a self-delusion. The famous "Love your neighbor" commandment has always been a part of the Law of Moses, where it remains to this day. Jesus Christ quoted it in response to a question asked of Him by the Pharisees DOES NOT mean Jesus Christ is the one who first said it.
And no, not all the prophets preached that at all, so don't make statements that you have no understanding of.

3. Then clearly, you don't care for what God of Israel has to say, do you? But do you think it is your place to assert your opinion over God's very own Law?

4. Sadly, there is absolutely no truth to this claim of yours! There are over 40,000 gods/deities out there. To suggest they are all the same is human hubris and nothing more.

If I walked into a room of 20 different people. Common sense would inform me right from the entrance not to make the mistake of assuming all 20 individuals in the room are the same — same speech patterns, same likes and dislikes, same, temperaments/dispositions, etc. — I would only make a fool of myself if I decided to see them all as the same and treat them all exactly to my very own choosing. Why then would any rational being out there think it would make sense to lump all deities together and consider them all the same?

IAmHim1:
■ Your problem, just like some people reading this now, is you all think the Bible is complete
Remember, people were once burned for holding books TALKLESS OF BIBLES lolzzzz Think
■ The Catholic church locks it's Vatican making it THE MOST SECURED PLACE ON THIS EARTH BUT, they decide to give you all the Bible for free
Haba!!!!! What happened. If the powers that be really want you to have 'knowledge', there would be no place with books and history of the entire corners of the world that would be under lock and keys...so much that it is known as one of the MOST SECURED PLACE ON EARTH
■ read the Bible with a pinch of salt. Whatever part of the Bible that : 1) makes you feel entitled as a Christian
2) Tries to put asunder between you and other religions in ways that promotes unnecessary disunity 3) tries to deceive you about an easy way out from your sins like the big lie that Jesus came to die for our sins( and I discussed this in my other topic titled 'THAT FLAW IN CHRISTIANITY'
just know that you are being deceived!!! And this is just the three points I can remember o. Lolzzzz
■ Just sit and ask questions. Locked Vatican containing books but free Bible...WHY? The only reason they would give you the Bible for free is because they are sure that it doesn't contain anything important that they wouldn't want to be exposed...that's why they tell you 'the Bible has many mysteries. If you pray very well, the holy spirit will reveal the secrets of the Bible to you.' lolzzzz The same Bible secrets that they themselves physically edited from the Bible lolzzzzz. Think! All of you reading this... please sit down and deeply think about this

1. Stop jumping all over the place, please! Exactly what leads you to believe that the Scripture is incomplete? Let's start there.

2. The Vatican never wrote a word of Scripture! It simply made attempts to manipulate access to the various books out there. So, let's not get things tangled up. Now the World is not only aware of that but also has access to all the books that were once withheld, so let's go back to your first claim. Why are you under the impression that Scripture is incomplete?

3. First of all, I am not a Christian so pretending you have me figured out as one is your first mistake. Second, ff you had ever in fact read Scripture for what it contains, you would have figured out long ago that Religion — Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc., — are ideas that have no place in Scripture. The God of Israel made it abundantly clear from His Prophets that those who cling to the religion of men, refusing to abide by His Law as a result, are against Him. So, leave religion where it belongs, in the trash, and focus on answering the main question which again is why do you believe that Scripture is incomplete?

4. All this, I am afraid are ramblings and nothing more. Books in today's world are mostly free. Only those afraid of paper and glue make up silly excuses for why they should choose ignorance over knowledge contained. Again, if you had ever read the words of Jesus Christ for yourself, you would have long discovered that almost 2000 years ago, Jesus Christ warned His followers not to give that which is Holy — The Truth of the Kingdom of God — to the dogs and those whom He referred to as dogs are Non-Israelites.

Your Vaticans are made up of non-Israelites for the most part, right? That means that have no part in the equation that is Jesus Christ, even though by way of their religion they assert the opposite— Lies. So, leave them in their ignorance and arrogance and focus instead on the main here which is explaining how exactly you came to conclude that Scripture is incomplete.

Kobojunkie,.I really don't know what to tell you anymore

But here goes something:

The ONLY reason you're championing Jesus Christ as your savior is because you were born in a Christian family. If you were born in a Muslim family, you'd be with your kettle tomorrow, April 26 2024.

You think because a woman is on hijab that means she won't make heaven or whatever your Bible tell you heaven is like lolzzz

Once again, the only reason you're a Christian is because you were born a Christian

Jesus, Prophet Mohammed...all of them are from God . It's just that their teaching has been corrupted for man selfish reasons that's why you see disunity

Sallah meat is meat. Easter meat is meat too. Because it came from a Christian or a Muslim doesn't make it less of a meat

Apply context to this knowledge you're reading now and if you have any questions, please try make it precise. Try please

Kobojunkie:
1. Stop jumping all over the place, please! Exactly what leads you to believe that the Scripture is incomplete? Let's start there.

2. The Vatican never wrote a word of Scripture! It simply made attempts to manipulate access to the various books out there. So, let's not get things tangled up. Now the World is not only aware of that but also has access to all the books that were once withheld, so let's go back to your first claim. Why are you under the impression that Scripture is incomplete?

3. First of all, I am not a Christian so pretending you have me figured out as one is your first mistake. Second, ff you had ever in fact read Scripture for what it contains, you would have figured out long ago that Religion — Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc., — are ideas that have no place in Scripture. The God of Israel made it abundantly clear from His Prophets that those who cling to the religion of men, refusing to abide by His Law as a result, are against Him. So, leave religion where it belongs, in the trash, and focus on answering the main question which again is why do you believe that Scripture is incomplete?

4. All this, I am afraid are ramblings and nothing more. Books in today's world are mostly free. Only those afraid of paper and glue make up silly excuses for why they should choose ignorance over knowledge contained. Again, if you had ever read the words of Jesus Christ for yourself, you would have long discovered that almost 2000 years ago, Jesus Christ warned His followers not to give that which is Holy — The Truth of the Kingdom of God — to the dogs and those whom He referred to as dogs are Non-Israelites.

Your Vaticans are made up of non-Israelites for the most part, right? That means that have no part in the equation that is Jesus Christ, even though by way of their religion they assert the opposite— Lies. So, leave them in their ignorance and arrogance and focus instead on the main here which is explaining how exactly you came to conclude that Scripture is incomplete.

IAmHim1:
■ ,.I really don't know what to tell you anymore. But here goes something: The ONLY reason you're championing Jesus Christ as your savior is because you were born in a Christian family. If you were born in a Muslim family, you'd be with your kettle tomorrow, April 26 2024.
■ You think because a woman is on hijab that means she won't make heaven or whatever your Bible tell you heaven is like lolzzz Once again, the only reason you're a Christian is because you were born a Christian. Jesus, Prophet Mohammed...all of them are from God . It's just that their teaching has been corrupted for man selfish reasons that's why you see disunity Sallah meat is meat. Easter meat is meat too. Because it came from a Christian or a Muslim doesn't make it less of a meat
■ Apply context to this knowledge you're reading now and if you have any questions, please try make it precise. Try please.

1. That is a lie ! I was not born into a Christian home. My parents were more atheist leaning than Christian when I was young. It was much much later that they sort to adopt religion, by that time, I was having none of it. So you see, you need to focus on the topic and make your point as opposed to jumping all over the place hoping something sticks!

Also, for the umpteenth time, I am not a Christian.

2. I don't think that at all! The reason a woman in Hijab will not enter into the Heaven that belongs to Jesus Christ has a lot more to do with what Jesus Christ Himself said of His Heaven and those who can make it into it. It matters not what I think. So again, just jumping all over the place!

3. Throwing around ideas that amount to religious nonsense when it ought to be clear that religious gibberish should have no place in a discussion regarding what is contained in Scripture points to a lack of understanding on your part of what is stated in Scripture versus the ideas worming around in your head there. If you took your advice there and applied context when processing the information contained in Scripture, and then those in the Quran or any other books out there, you would realize this but I doubt you even know how to do exactly what it is you advise there.

Lolzz. Have a nice day

Kobojunkie:
1. That is a lie ! I was not born into a Christian home. My parents were more atheist leaning than Christian when I was young. It was much much later that they sort to adopt religion, by that time, I was having none of it. So you see, you need to focus on the topic and make your point as opposed to jumping all over the place hoping something sticks!

Also, for the umpteenth time, I am not a Christian.

2. I don't think that at all! The reason a woman in Hijab will not enter into the Heaven that belongs to Jesus Christ has a lot more to do with what Jesus Christ Himself said of His Heaven and those who can make it into it. It matters not what I think. So again, just jumping all over the place!

3. Throwing around ideas that amount to religious nonsense when it ought to be clear that religious gibberish should have no place in a discussion regarding what is contained in Scripture points to a lack of understanding on your part of what is stated in Scripture versus the ideas worming around in your head there. If you took your advice there and applied context when processing the information contained in Scripture, and then those in the Quran or any other books out there, you would realize this but I doubt you even know how to do exactly what it is you advise there.

IAmHim1:
Lolzz. Have a nice day

Here's a question for you. You pretend yourself better than those who cling to religion in terms of knowledge of God and the things of God. But when you are poked for details, it turns out you don't know anything for sure but are, like the religious folks, certain that what you know is better than what they have. From where I sit, you disseminate the same level type of vacuous lies and uncertainty about it all that the religious folks you beat down do, only you pretend you hold a higher ground than they do. So I guess my particular question to you, is why do you bother at all? What do you gain from this? Just curious!

A rich man with poor siblings is still a poor man

What's the essence of all my knowledge and intelligence if I can't impact someone's life positively

My intelligence IS A GIFT. NOT MY RIGHT OR PRIVILEGE. I'm not smart because I went to the best school...I'm smart because I was born this way. The potential was already in me. I was born because I am to serve others and the gift I was born to use to serve others is my intelligence. And I thank God for people like Helpyourself, a nairalander who made me realize this

Although I'm no perfect being, I just want People to see the world the way it is so they can make better decisions because the best way to focus on things that matter IS TO take your eyes of things that don't matter. this happens by unlearning and relearning

They say people perish for lack of knowledge BUT IMAGINE IF THE PEOPLE HAD KNOWLEDGE..just imagine if that happens. Imagine if people made decision KNOWING the full consequences of the decision they are about to make

What if I can make that happen.

WHEN I make that happen...

Heads up!

Kobojunkie:
Here's a question for you. You pretend yourself better than those who cling to religion in terms of knowledge of God and the things of God. But when you are poked for details, it turns out you don't know anything for sure but are, like the religious folks, certain that what you know is better than what they have. From where I sit, you disseminate the same level type of vacuous lies and uncertainty about it all that the religious folks you beat down do, only you pretend you hold a higher ground than they do. So I guess my particular question to you, is why do you bother at all? What do you gain from this? Just curious!

IAmHim1:
■ A rich man with poor siblings is still a poor man What's the essence of all my knowledge and intelligence if I can't impact someone's life positively
■ My intelligence IS A GIFT. NOT MY RIGHT OR PRIVILEGE. I'm not smart because I went to the best school...I'm smart because I was born this way. The potential was already in me. I was born because I am to serve others and the gift I was born to use to serve others is my intelligence. And I thank God for people like Helpyourself, a nairalander who made me realize this
■ Although I'm no perfect being, I just want People to see the world the way it is so they can make better decisions because the best way to focus on things that matter IS TO take your eyes of things that don't matter. this happens by unlearning and relearning.
They say people perish for lack of knowledge BUT IMAGINE IF THE PEOPLE HAD KNOWLEDGE..just imagine if that happens.
■ Imagine if people made decision KNOWING the full consequences of the decision they are about to make. What if I can make that happen. WHEN I make that happen...Heads up!

1. How you impact someone positively if you have not even an ounce of verifiable truth aka fact to offer him?

2. Intelligence? Is it possible to have intelligence without knowledge and understanding? You have a lot of questions, what-ifs, and suppositions, sure. But what I sense more from you is curiosity but a curious mind is not necessarily a knowledgable or intelligent mind though, is it? I mean having so 100 questions and not a single valid answer to any of them makes one no better than a box of unsolved puzzles.

3. You think you see the world the way it is? Or do you think the way you see the world is the way the world is? I think it is the latter for you! If you unlearn one pack of BULLSHEET to relearn another pack of BULLSHEET, you still end up full of BULLSHEET though. So, is it simply about unlearning one thing to relearn another?

4. Never take things out of context or you completely end up creating nothing in the end. The statement in Hosea 4 vs 6 was said concerning the general ignorance of the people of the details of God's Law of Moses, the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan. Taken out of context, that statement has been used to justify even the most stewpid of things. Please try to pay attention to context next time.

5. But what you described is already more than possible. So what?

IAmHim1:
If God is a Spirit...

How would the members of a street welcome exPresident Obama if he were to pay them a visit.

They would want to display their culture with singing, praising, dancing, foods on display, traditional attires etcetera etcetera

Heck! The local Government chairman would be on standby ready to welcome Ex president Obama

But Obama is just a man. An ordinary man that can miss his steps, hit his head on a rock and die...thats whom all these songs and praise is for

We have all witnessed the arrangements made when E.A Adeboye is about to pay a visit to a community. All preparations are made up to date, down to the microphone and speakers Adeboye will use to address the crowd

But E.A Adeboye is just a man too

a man who you can see and touch
same as Obama...

Now imagine a Mighty spirit who created you and all you will ever know...how would you praise and glorify such a spirit. You want to glorify this mighty spirit the same way you glorified those ordinary mortal men


WOW. thats BOLD of you

You want to gather in a crowd and sing and dance for this spirit. lolzzzz

You want to pray in loud voices for a spirit you dont see but whom sees your heart and inner most thoughts

No. You got it all wrong. But that was then. not now anymore




Your missing Link:

Since man is a physical being, You worship man in ways that man will see and acknowledge


And since God is a spirit being, you worship a spirit in ways that a spirit will see and acknowledge

What are those things that a spirit can see and acknowledge you might ask


The things which a spirit can see and acknowledge are those things which man CANT SEE AND ACKNOWLEDGE: your thoughts and secret actions.

ta-da

if you observed well, i didnt write thoughts, *words* and secret actions
i excluded 'words' because your thoughts reflects in your words. If you werent thinking it, you would never have said it


In closing, its spirit paired with spirit and flesh paired with flesh.

what really made you think your public display of givings and loud kabashing 'die by fire' is gonna be acknowledged by a spirit that doesnt have your human limited ears and human limited eyesight.

***Didnt Elisha open his servant spiritual eyes to see that they were surrounded by heavenly armies compared to the mortal soldiers that surrounded them . What Elisha had been seeing all along wasnt what his servant was seeing. Man and mortal sense organ is limited


If you wanna praise a mortal king, shower him with loud praises and talking drum beats but if you really want to glorify a spirit, go into a secret place where no man sees you and appreciate such a spirit...praise and appreciate that Mighty Spirit where no man sees you... give without announcing your gifts to any man and then and only then would such a spirit acknowledge you

You want to know why

Because man DID NOT see you.
now you know why the loudest prayer is the weakest prayer. Exactly
Because you prayed to the hearing of man. Spirits dont have man ears. but they can read your hearts and true intentions. Count how many men can do such


Strive to Worship God in truth and IN SPIRIT henceforth so you dont waste your precious time singing praises and praying to your pastors


One love People

Your post makes a lot of sense except criticism of Adeboye and RCCG.

Which president will want to visit a place and the stage will not be perfectly set for him? A mission like RCCG will plan a programme where its leader will address a crowd and the stage will not be carefully prepared?
He is representing which God?


Besides, the man of God is always seen carrying tambourine singing to God publicly. In any programme, he kneels down in worship of his God. He publicly shows that he is no match of God nor accept worship from his followers.

Lolzzzz
The beginning of your comment made me laugh

Listen to this:

ANY church OR RELIGION that promises you an escape from your sins by ASKING for forgiveness is complete LIES.

Then what stops someone from using your loved one for RITUALS and then asking for forgiveness later

What stop someone from raping and stealing and killing your loved ones when such a person knows that in the end, all that has to be done is to just cry and ask for forgiveness

THATS THE SCAM OF RELIGION and I wrote about it in my topic: That Flaw in Christianity. Quite insightful.
https://www.nairaland.com/7936607/flaw-christianity

EA Adeboye is NOT someone God is using. Forget all that his bullshit meekness and his slow calm talking style he uses to deceive all of you.
EVIL ISNT DARK ANYMORE. that's why it doesn't attract anyone. Because darkness is so dark that people can't see it. So darkness has to be light so it can attract people's attention.
That's why doing evil is quite easy these days. Because EVIL is light and it attracts people from all walks of life...just like how light draws people attention compared to darkness


Take this info to your bank and cash out ASAP. Same with Kumuyi, Chris Oyakilohome, Lazarus muoka...ANY church at all that believes in the blood of Christ is utter bull sheet

and I'll leave this for you to really ponder deeply and decide if you want to be in that scam building on Sunday morning going forward:
IF forgiveness of sins was that easy just by asking and repenting, don't you think Heaven would be filed up and hell would be shrinking daily

Jesus taught about loving our brothers and sisters EQUALLY and even practiced this by associating with tax collectors. So If Jesus died for Christian, then who died for Muslims...since Jesus would never segregate or purposely create disunity ie Jesus would never choose Christians and leave Muslims and Buddhists and Taoist and co

Who died for Muslims and Co

3) WHAT make someone a Christian apart from being born into a Christian family.

That means if one had been born into a Muslim family, that person has been condemned from birth to be an infidel and end up in hell. Is the Jesus you worship in Church that evil.


Isnt this what all the scam pastors both in Nigeria and abroad teaches.

Remember, all things bright and beautiful
All creatures great and small
All things wise and wonderful
The LORD GOD MADE THEM ALL


Please wake up Sir.

Whoever is reading this, PLEASE wake up

MightySparrow:


Your post makes a lot of sense except criticism of Adeboye and RCCG.

Which president will want to visit a place and the stage will not be perfectly set for him? A mission like RCCG will plan a programme where its leader will address a crowd and the stage will not be carefully prepared?
He is representing which God?


Besides, the man of God is always seen carrying tambourine singing to God publicly. In any programme, he kneels down in worship of his God. He publicly shows that he is no match of God nor accept worship from his followers.

https://www.nairaland.com/7754063/evil-isnt-dark