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See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 6:58pm On Apr 03
See how polygamist have secretly and privately changed the meaning of adultery in their filthy hearts and minds to cover the fact that they know they are doing the.wrong and disobeying God! grin

One said!

Westerhoffe:
...Adultery is sexual relationship BETWEEN A PERSON AND ANOTHER PERSON, WHO THEY ARE NOT MARRIED TO!

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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by immortalcrown(m): 7:00pm On Apr 03
Adultery is when a married person has sexual intercourse with someone other than his or her spouse.

A married man who has sex with a woman that is not his wife commits adultery.

A married woman who has sex with a man that is not her husband commits adultery.

Therefore, one illegitimate sexual intercourse could be both adultery and fornication if one partner is married and the other partner is single.

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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 7:09pm On Apr 03
Now another uncule has come up.with his own definition.which was nearly the correct one we all know except that he now did magu-magu and wuru-wuru and hid one more important piece of information. grin

ISelectMySins:

What is adultery? How we define adultery in the 21st century is quite different from biblical adultery. Let me define it for you.

Adultery is sexual relations between a married man and a married or betrothed woman; adding to this, adultery is sexual relations between an unmarried man and a married or betrothed woman. Flipping the switch, it is sexual intercourse between a married woman and a married or unmarried man. Here, the marital status of the man is not relevant as long as she is another man's wife.

This one conveniently omitted that adultery is also a sexual relation BETWEEN A MARRIED MAN and a married or unmarried woman. grin

See how polygamist and polygamy advocates are mad deluded Liars? grin

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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by EreluRoz: 7:09pm On Apr 03
Exactly what yul Edochie did. He slept with somebody's wife, impregnated her and ran to hide under polygamy and unfortunately some of these gullible ones fell for his deceit

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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 7:13pm On Apr 03
immortalcrown:
Adultery is when a married person has sexual intercourse with someone other than his or her spouse.

A married man who has sex with a woman that is not his wife commits adultery.

A married woman who has sex with a man that is not her husband commits adultery.

Therefore, one illegitimate sexual intercourse could be both adultery and fornication if one partner is married and the other partner is single.

Thank you o.

So how can God ever support polygamy since it has adultery/harlotry/fornication and all the wrongs and sexual immorities in it? Is it possible?

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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 7:17pm On Apr 03
EreluRoz:
Exactly what yul Edochie did. He slept with somebody's wife, impregnated her and ran to hide under polygamy and unfortunately some of these gullible ones fell for his deceit

He then ran again to build a church and further hide his sins. How would he now not preach that people should joiin him in his adultery by asking them to marry the same person they.committed adultery with?

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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by EreluRoz: 7:21pm On Apr 03
Veecruz:


He then ran again to build a church. How would he now not preach that people should joiin him in his adultery by asking them to marry the same person they.committed adultery with?
I still remember the video of the husband to that his mistress crying to the public on how yul Edochie was sleeping with his wife in his matrimonial home and today he has married her and some people are forcefully justifying rubbish under the guise of polygamy. The man was laying claim to the son she has for yul as he stated that both of them were sleeping with her at the same time and that child could be his.

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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 7:24pm On Apr 03
EreluRoz:
I still remember the video of the husband to that his mistress crying to the public on how yul Edochie was sleeping with his wife in his matrimonial home and today he has married her and some people are forcefully justifying rubbish under the guise of polygamy. The man was laying claim to the son she has for yul as he stated that both of them were sleeping with her at the same time and that child could be his.

Imagine. God has a lot of Judging to do.

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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by immortalcrown(m): 7:41pm On Apr 03
Veecruz:


Thank you o.

So how can God ever support polygamy since it has adultery/harlotry/fornication and all the wrongs and sexual immorities in it? Is it possible?
If a man has many wives, he is not committing adultery by having sex with those wives of his.

Two major things that validate marriage are consent, payment of bride price and many people bearing witness to the marriage. As long as the man fulfills those things for each of his wives, he having sex with them is not adultery unless he slept with them before fulfilling those things.

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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 7:46pm On Apr 03
I did not see this one. This uncule said

MiddleDimension:

Also, the story of David and Bethsheba shows that polygamy IS NOT ADULTERY.

Yet he went on to say

MiddleDimension:

Adultery: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than that person's current spouse or partner
source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/adultery

What David did with Bethsheba, was adultery because according to the definition of adultery given above from the marian dictionary, David was a married man, and Bethsheba was NOT HIS WIFE AT THE TIME HE TOOK HER...

See how twisted.

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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 8:12pm On Apr 03
immortalcrown:
If a man has many wives, he is not committing adultery by having sex with those wives of his.

So, how can a married man have many wives without first committing adultery and breaking othet God's Laws on his first and original wife?

immortalcrown:

What validate marriage are payment of bride price and many people bearing witness to the marriage. As long as the man fulfills those two things for each of his wives, he having sex with them is not adultery unless he slept with them before fulfilling those things.

Secondly, man can validate it, same way he validates calling bobrisky a she or Christopher jenner a "her" or validating men having sex with men and marrying them. It is known that man validates a lot of shitty things and abominations as Sodom and Gomo and the Amelekites and our African traditions did.

But, it does not mean that they were.right to do so, neither do they meet the requirement of Holiness and Righteousness.

Hence, the question, can a married man or woman marry a second time without breaking A Commandment of God eg The Law of lust, covenant breaking, harlotry, adultery, sexual immorality?

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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by thesicilian: 8:19pm On Apr 03
Polygamy is not adultery. A married man who wants to practice polygamy by African standards must still have to marry the other woman properly before having sex with her.
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by immortalcrown(m): 10:20pm On Apr 03
Veecruz:
So, how can a married man have many wives without first committing adultery?
By marrying a second wife and paying her bride price before having sex with her.

God's law is a different topic. Stop mixing things up unnecessarily. The topic is about adultery, not about God's law. As a matter of fact, the Bible does not condemn polygamy. The Bible encourages that a man should have one wife, but the Bible does not say he who has wives will go to hell.

I am a Christian and do not intend to have more than one wife. My Church beliefs (doctrines), which I accept and try to fulfill, condemn polygamy. But it is wrong for me to use my Christian standard for everyone. Not everyone is a Christian. Also, adultery is not only for or about only Christianity. Adultery applies to many non-biblical cultures or laws. Stop confusing yourself. Stop treating adultery as if it applies only to Christianity.
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Steep: 10:49pm On Apr 03
immortalcrown:
If a man has many wives, he is not committing adultery by having sex with those wives of his.

Two major things that validate marriage are consent, payment of bride price and many people bearing witness to the marriage. As long as the man fulfills those things for each of his wives, he having sex with them is not adultery unless he slept with them before fulfilling those things.
In Christianity, we are returning to the original design of marriage, how can you a born again Christian indulge in polygamy?
As a Christian we called to be christlike to follow and do the perfect will of God, if this is not your desire then you are not a Christian.

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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 7:18am On Apr 04
immortalcrown:
By marrying a second wife and paying her bride price before having sex with her.

Is he buying a mannequin? Won't he first look at her and date her first? Is the looking and dating not already breaking some couple of Commandments of God eg The Law of lust, covenant breaking, harlotry, adultery, sexual immorality?

immortalcrown:

God's law is a different topic. Stop mixing things up unnecessarily. The topic is about adultery, not about God's law. As a matter of fact, the Bible does not condemn polygamy.

The basis of this topic is because people like you say God/the Bible does not condemn polygamy, in spite of the fact that polygamy it breaks some of God's Laws. So this is a surgical inquest to see if what you people say, IS TRUE!

immortalcrown:

The Bible encourages that a man should have one wife, but the Bible does not say he who has wives will go to hell.

And did God not clearly Say "do the good, eshew evil; do unto others what you want done to you; the sinner shall die" among others? Thus, if your wife marries a second husband, would you not say she has done you evil and broken The Law?

immortalcrown:

I am a Christian and do not intend to have more than one wife. My Church beliefs (doctrines), which I accept and try to fulfill, condemn polygamy. But it is wrong for me to use my Christian standard for everyone. Not everyone is a Christian. Also, adultery is not only for or about only Christianity. Adultery applies to many non-biblical cultures or laws. Stop confusing yourself. Stop treating adultery as if it applies only to Christianity.

Thank God you have used the magic word "treating adultery as if it applies only to Christianity"

The basis of this threads is because people like you, who call yourselves Christians and claim to subscribe to one wife, yet turn around and say "God/the bible does not condemn polygamy" whereas, you are holding God's Very Words and Commaandments and Ordinances and Judgments in your hand via the bible.

And those Words of Commaandments and Ordinances and Judgments already contain Laws which make it impossible for anyone to do polygamy,

So, my threads are for people like you and for all those who say God/bible allows it.

If it was a stone or iron or wood worshippers or godnone people like atheists and Europe and America who say polygamy is not wrong, i wont be interested fior so do they say teen sex , homosex, crossgender and transgender is not wrong. These people are known to declare abominations as allowed.

That is the difference between a Christian and others.

But, wben a person who says he is a christian and he says that God allows polygamy.i stand to be challenged and corrected that such a person can never be a Christian for God's Words of Commaandments and Ordinances and Judgments kill all thoughts of doing polygamy, but i am open to learn and see if you people can validly prove it and i can show my wife and family and everyone that i/we have a just basis for having a second and third and maybe, no let me start with 3 first.

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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by ISelectMySins: 8:12am On Apr 04
Veecruz:
Now another uncule has come up.with his own definition.which was nearly the correct one we all know except that he now did magu-magu and wuru-wuru and hid one more important piece of information. grin



This one conveniently omitted that adultery is also a sexual relation BETWEEN A MARRIED MAN and a married or unmarried woman. grin

See how polygamist and polygamy advocates are mad deluded Liars? grin




You are quite funny. Seems you didn't know why God allows men to marry more than one wife. I could share some with you if you're humble enough to learn. There are a lot, and quite a lot of -- Do not do this... A man must never do this... You must never do this in the land... And yet, we cannot find a single, even one verse in holy scriptures that specifically forbids men with clear instructions from marrying more than one wife.

You talk of adultery as sexual intercourse between a man and an unmarried woman, but you don't know what you are saying. Prove it.
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by immortalcrown(m): 8:21am On Apr 04
Veecruz:
Is he buying a mannequin? Won't he first look at her and date her first? Is the looking and dating not already breaking some couple of Commandments of God eg The Law of lust, covenant breaking, harlotry, adultery, sexual immorality?
You are being irrational here. If a married man commits adultery by merely looking at a woman, every husband is guilty of adultery.

Who told you that dating cannot happen without adultery or fornication? Years ago, I was of the belief that dating cannot happen without sexual immorality. I even created a post about it. But I later understood that dating can happen without sexual immorality. What may be inevitable in dating is lustful desire, which may also be inevitable in the life of every mature man. So, if you want to use unfulfilled lustful desires to condemn every dating, you should also use unfulfilled lustful desires to condemn every man.
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 11:59am On Apr 04
immortalcrown:
You are being irrational here. If a married man commits adultery by merely looking at a woman, every husband is guilty of adultery...

At least, you admit they are guilty and that therefore proves why God can never support it.

But since they are already guilty for looking only, should they now perfect the sins and make it worse by solidifying that guilt by marrying the partner in sin?

Even though adultery commences from looking, do our spouses not forgive and overlook our looking? (which is why they would not raise a case against us in God's Court about looking)

But, is any man or woman able to endure and forgive the solidification of the adultery by the fuvking and/or marrying the partner in sin? Is this not a big wickedness and evil when you do that?

Your discomfort and annoyance already proves that you already know that it is a great wickedness and evil, so there is no way in heaven and earth that God would ever support it.

immortalcrown:

Who told you that dating cannot happen without adultery or fornication? Years ago, I was of the belief that dating cannot happen without sexual immorality.

You are now pretending not know that adultery also includes emotional and none physical adultery

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So, your defence is not valid and you know it.

immortalcrown:

I even created a post about it. But I later understood that dating can happen without sexual immorality. What may be inevitable in dating is lustful desire, which may also be inevitable in the life of every mature man. So, if you want to use unfulfilled lustful desires to condemn every dating, you should also use unfulfilled lustful desires to condemn every man.

Hmmm! Interesting. So now i see you support polygamy because even you yourself have gone swimming in its waters. So, now you cannot condemn it because you condemn yourself.

So, you can not judge a polygamist because you yourself are guilty of polygamy even though you have not yet married the partner in sin.

And that is why you have to run away from The Law and even up to bend The Law because if ye declare The Law as it stands in Truth, ye shall be condemnec by it also.

"For he comes to Equity, (The Law) must come with clean hands". Psalm 24:3-6

3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? or who shall stand in his holy place?

4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.

And unfortunately for you, your hands are dirty.. But denying and perverting The Law is not The Way to.get clean if ye want to enter into God's Kingdom.

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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 12:03pm On Apr 04
ISelectMySins:

You are quite funny. Seems you didn't know why God allows men to marry more than one wife. I could share some with you if you're humble enough to learn. There are a lot, and quite a lot of -- Do not do this... A man must never do this... You must never do this in the land... And yet, we cannot find a single, even one verse in holy scriptures that specifically forbids men with clear instructions from marrying more than one wife.

You talk of adultery as sexual intercourse between a man and an unmarried woman, but you don't know what you are saying. Prove it.

See distraction and diversion! grin

Let me patronize you. grin

So the fact that that Molech sacriiced and burnt their children or that the Sodomites, Amelekites and co whose children bleeped their mother's father's aunties, daughter in laws etc was allowed by God?

What a joker! grin grin grin

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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by MiddleDimension: 12:10pm On Apr 04
Veecruz:
I did not see this one. This uncule said



Yet he went on to say



See how twisted.

Was David married to Bersheba when he first slept with her which is what God punished? Was she not someone elses wife, you dunce!

Polygyny: when a man MARRIES more than one woman!
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by immortalcrown(m): 12:39pm On Apr 04
Veecruz:
At least, you admit they are guilty and that therefore proves why God can never support it.
Your logic is like saying that every adult virgin has had sex because he or she has sexual desires.
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 12:45pm On Apr 04
MiddleDimension:

Was David married to Bersheba when he first slept with her which is what God punished? Was she not someone elses wife, you dunce!

Polygyny: when a man MARRIES more than one woman!

See insalt, e pain am well well! grin

Did the bible tell you that David went to piss or shit or that he laughed when a joke was given?

See how you pretend not to know that the bible is not a diary that gave us the day by day report of David's life.

And see how you pretend not to know that God is not like your primary school teacher who punishes every infraction everytime they occur, as proven by His punishment of the people of Sodom and Gomo, Egypt, Amelekites, Isreal and even this present world.

Or you pretend not to know it is Written
"Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore ..."people like you and David and Solomon and Sodom and Gomorrah are fully set in sin?

You don't have any valid thing to say.
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 12:49pm On Apr 04
immortalcrown:
Your logic is like saying that every adult virgin has had sex because he or she has sexual desires.

No! It does not!

If given the particulars, we all know exactly and precisely when a virgin has had sex from its commencement to its accomplishment, so need to pretend.
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by ISelectMySins: 8:36pm On Apr 04
Veecruz:


See distraction and diversion! grin

Let me patronize you. grin

So the fact that that Molech sacriiced and burnt their children or that the Sodomites, Amelekites and co whose children bleeped their mother's father's aunties, daughter in laws etc was allowed by God?

What a joker! grin grin grin






Patronize me? Don't patronize me; just thank your saviour.

You should be especially thankful to Christ who has redeemed female nature from the rule and scourging whip of the law. As the old Rabbis would often say - thank you God for making me a man and not a woman, a Jews and not a gentile, a...
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 9:51pm On Apr 04
ISelectMySins:

Patronize me? Don't patronize me; just thank your saviour.

You should be especially thankful to Christ who has redeemed female nature from the rule and scourging whip of the law. As the old Rabbis would often say - thank you God for making me a man and not a woman, a Jews and not a gentile, a...

Meaning you have no counter, so you are talking off point!
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Westerhoffe(m): 5:05pm On Apr 24
Veecruz:
See how polygamist have secretly and privately changed the meaning of adultery in their filthy hearts and minds to cover the fact that they know they are doing the.wrong and disobeying God! grin

One said!



Describe adultery and let's see, if it's beyond a sexual relationship between a partner you're not married to.

You just keep twisting everything to suit yourself. I'm not programmable Mr.
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by StillDtruth: 8:06pm On Apr 24
Westerhoffe:

Describe adultery and let's see, if it's beyond a sexual relationship between a partner you're not married to.

You just keep twisting everything to suit yourself. I'm not programmable Mr.

The definition of adultery shows that it is an offence/sin/ vexation which occurs when a married person, while already married, goes sexually seeking and entangling himself after other persons who may themselves be married or not.

And if the married person continues with his adultery with the other peron to the point of marrying that other person, the adultery.now has the adfitional offence of bigamy.

bigamy. noun. big·​a·​my ˈbi-gə-mē : the crime of marrying someone while already married to someone else

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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Westerhoffe(m): 10:39pm On Apr 24
StillDtruth:


The definition of adultery shows that it is an offence/sin/ vexation which occurs when a married person, while already married, goes sexually seeking and entangling himself after other persons who may themselves be married or not.

And if the married person continues with his adultery with the other peron to the point of marrying that other person, the adultery.now has the adfitional offence of bigamy.

bigamy. noun. big·​a·​my ˈbi-gə-mē : the crime of marrying someone while already married to someone else




And when he marries another woman? undecided
Who made polygamy an offense?
GOD or men? undecided
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by StillDtruth: 6:49am On Apr 25
Westerhoffe:

And when he marries another woman? undecided
Who made polygamy an offense?
GOD or men? undecided

God did through 'Thou shalt not commit adultery'"

Escalating the adultery and marrying your co adulterer is aggravated adultery called Bigamy!

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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Westerhoffe(m): 11:30am On Apr 25
StillDtruth:


God did through 'Thou shalt not commit adultery'"

Escalating the adultery and marrying your co adulterer is aggravated adultery called Bigamy!


You claimed GOD did through, "Thou shalt not commit adultery…" but same GOD gave them rules on how to guide their polygamous house. Which confusion is more than this you're going through?
As long as he marries her and she becomes his wife, it is no longer adultery.
A man having more than one wife has never been called adultery by GOD.
You've given not evidence to back your claims, you just keep arguing blindly.


David married Bathsheba after the whole issue, but why did GOD recognize Solomon, blessed him above all other kings on earth? Gave him peace all his days?

Is GOD there supporting your eyes?
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by StillDtruth: 9:02pm On Apr 25
Westerhoffe:

[b]You claimed GOD did through, "Thou shalt not commit adultery…" but same GOD gave them rules on how to guide their polygamous house.

Where they not already living in sins and had committed polygamy when God came and gave them His Laws?

As i said you have nothing valid to say and repeating yourself only proves you have nothing to say.
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Westerhoffe(m): 10:01pm On Apr 25
StillDtruth:


Where they not already living in sins and had committed polygamy when God came and gave them His Laws?

As i said you have nothing valid to say and repeating yourself only proves you have nothing to say.


And you think they didn't know the difference between right and wrong before the Laws were given?

I should be telling you you have nothing reasonable to say, and not otherwise.

And you just shot yourself here again.

The laws were given when?

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