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Tech Skill To Learn by Atsujnr: 7:02am On Apr 06
Good morning house,please I will like to learn a tech skill online but I don't know which one is the best.
I need something that I can learn within 6 months cox I won't be that busy from now to six months cox of the nature of business am doing currently,so I want to use it and learn a tech skill online,preferably the one that will be useful to me even outside Nigeria cox I have plans of travelling next year.

Note: I dnt have prior knowledge with computers so I will appreciate suggestions on how to start from scratch.Thanks
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by tosbobby(m): 5:36pm On Apr 07
* Learn Microsoft Excel
* Learn Excel for Data Analytics
* Google spreadsheet
* Learn Power Point Reporting & Design
* Learn basic SQL and PowerBI

If you want one-on-one coaching, you can reach out: tosbobbykc@gmail.com

Atsujnr:
Good morning house,please I will like to learn a tech skill online but I don't know which one is the best.
I need something that I can learn within 6 months cox I won't be that busy from now to six months cox of the nature of business am doing currently,so I want to use it and learn a tech skill online,preferably the one that will be useful to me even outside Nigeria cox I have plans of travelling next year.

Note: I dnt have prior knowledge with computers so I will appreciate suggestions on how to start from scratch.Thanks

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Re: Tech Skill To Learn by qtguru(m): 5:42pm On Apr 07
Get a teacher, you need all the skills, Abroad is not beans

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Re: Tech Skill To Learn by Atsujnr: 7:37pm On Apr 07
qtguru:
Get a teacher, you need all the skills, Abroad is not beans
Getting a face-time teacher will be difficult for me cause of the nature of my job.

I just need to be pointed towards what will be the best course to start with and how to get the necessary information online.
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by Atsujnr: 7:39pm On Apr 07
tosbobby:
* Learn Microsoft Excel
* Learn Excel for Data Analytics
* Google spreadsheet
* Learn Power Point Reporting & Design
* Learn basic SQL and PowerBI

If you want one-on-one coaching, you can reach out: tosbobbykc@gmail.com

Thanks,I will start with ms-excel.
One on one coaching won't be possible cause of the nature of my job
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by tosbobby(m): 8:30pm On Apr 11
I can teach you via Google meet - virtual
Atsujnr:

Thanks,I will start with ms-excel.
One on one coaching won't be possible cause of the nature of my job
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by airsaylongcome: 2:26am On Apr 12
I'm left of center and always like to thread the part least followed. I'd say consider a career in real time communications. VoIP specifically. Learn Asterisk or Freeswitch.

Recently stumbled across some Nigerian guys working for Telnyx as devs. Glass door suggests they may be pulling in around $100k per annum although I think it's closer to $84k. These are direct full-time employees, not Independent Contractors like us.

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Re: Tech Skill To Learn by DyingFetus: 8:05am On Apr 12
We're full, go away
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by tosinhtml: 11:03am On Apr 12
Atsujnr:

Getting a face-time teacher will be difficult for me cause of the nature of my job.

I just need to be pointed towards what will be the best course to start with and how to get the necessary information online.

What you really need is a face-time teacher either virtually or physically to hand-hold you for a start because your first 3 months in tech will be a whirlwind & you will be frustrated most of time.
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by tosinhtml: 11:07am On Apr 12
airsaylongcome:
I'm left of center and always like to thread the part least followed. I'd say consider a career in real time communications. VoIP specifically. Learn Asterisk or Freeswitch.

Recently stumbled across some Nigerian guys working for Telnyx as devs. Glass door suggests they may be pulling in around $100k per annum although I think it's closer to $84k. These are direct full-time employees, not Independent Contractors like us.

Does this depend on country the OP is relocating to, I am asking because jobs are generally available in US for all types of skill. but when it comes to EU, then we start having troubles finding the companies hiring depending on which EU country.
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by airsaylongcome: 11:20am On Apr 12
tosinhtml:


Does this depend on country the OP is relocating to, I am asking because jobs are generally available in US for all types of skill. but when it comes to EU, then we start having troubles finding the companies hiring depending on which EU country.

Interesting question. The only challenge I've had getting EU jobs in voice is their GDPR wahala with restrictions on where data in rest or in motion can be. Interestingly is that two of the major open source software widely used in this field are built in Europe. The global leading VoIP software for business is by a business operating from the EU. So I'd say there is a demand in Europe. In the EU at least. Definitely they won't be matching US pay but there are opportunities
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by tensazangetsu20(m): 12:14pm On Apr 12
airsaylongcome:


Interesting question. The only challenge I've had getting EU jobs in voice is their GDPR wahala with restrictions on where data in rest or in motion can be. Interestingly is that two of the major open source software widely used in this field are built in Europe. The global leading VoIP software for business is by a business operating from the EU. So I'd say there is a demand in Europe. In the EU at least. Definitely they won't be matching US pay but there are opportunities

Talking with regards to voice software. Do you know service voice? A product of Salesforce and aws for contact centers?
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by airsaylongcome: 12:21pm On Apr 12
tensazangetsu20:


Talking with regards to voice software. Do you know service voice? A product of Salesforce and aws for contact centers?

Service CLOUD Voice. Yes I know of them. And have played with the product a bit. It's a mostly used for outbound calling although it can play both roles of inbound/outbound. The primary open source equivalents are Vicidial (you will have to adapt to its antiquated UI) and Goautodial.

An interesting one I'm looking at now is Fonoster, which claims to be a Twilio open source equivalent.

Ẹ don tey o. How your way?
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by tensazangetsu20(m): 1:07pm On Apr 12
airsaylongcome:


Service CLOUD Voice. Yes I know of them. And have played with the product a bit. It's a mostly used for outbound calling although it can play both roles of inbound/outbound. The primary open source equivalents are Vicidial (you will have to adapt to its antiquated UI) and Goautodial.

An interesting one I'm looking at now is Fonoster, which claims to be a Twilio open source equivalent.

Ẹ don tey o. How your way?


I dey o. Had to configure service voice recently. Found it interesting to work with.

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Re: Tech Skill To Learn by airsaylongcome: 2:49pm On Apr 12
tensazangetsu20:



I dey o. Had to configure service voice recently. Found it interesting to work with.

Nice nice. Yankee customer? Or your side? It's crazy playing in the contact centre space in the US because of new regulations regarding Caller ID. A lot of outbound calling centres want to rotate through a number of Caller IDs which can set of bells that can mark the calls as Spam Likely
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by tensazangetsu20(m): 2:51pm On Apr 12
airsaylongcome:


Nice nice. Yankee customer? Or your side? It's crazy playing in the contact centre space in the US because of new regulations regarding Caller ID. A lot of outbound calling centres want to rotate through a number of Caller IDs which can set of bells that can mark the calls as Spam Likely

LATAM client. Tech is vast o. I met a guy here that works with a niche hospital care software and he makes equivalent of 150k USD annually. Funny enough, these things are even easier to learn than the normal coding we want to kill ourselves with.

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Re: Tech Skill To Learn by airsaylongcome: 3:00pm On Apr 12
tensazangetsu20:


LATAM client. Tech is vast o. I met a guy here that works with a niche hospital care software and he makes equivalent of 150k USD annually. Funny enough, these things are even easier to learn than the normal coding we want to kill ourselves with
.

That's the funny truth o. These "alternate" solutions are quicker entry routes. At entry level, I'd rather have people follow these non mainstream solutions to get a foothold. But at the mid and top levels, developer money is blood money sha. Hospital software, are very niche. I tried a few between 2009 and 2013. You really have to be in the space and understand healthcare space. I used one called openVista and it looked really sleek at the time. But omo, the thing dey fly pass my head. Maybe if I had a home lab and unfettered Internet I may have gone far down that route. LATAM is such a great location for the US market. I have a colleague from Argentina and the guy is low key working for 3 employers at the time. All in tech. This na person wey read law for uni o! Baba threw himself into tech and now is in charge of writing a lot of python and bash scripts to automate our work. Hin self dey privately automate all his personal work so does actual work for only like 10 hours per week with the remaining hours running on several of his personal automations
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by tensazangetsu20(m): 3:16pm On Apr 12
airsaylongcome:


That's the funny truth o. These "alternate" solutions are quicker entry routes. At entry level, I'd rather have people follow these non mainstream solutions to get a foothold. But at the mid and top levels, developer money is blood money sha. Hospital software, are very niche. I tried a few between 2009 and 2013. You really have to be in the space and understand healthcare space. I used one called openVista and it looked really sleek at the time. But omo, the thing dey fly pass my head. Maybe if I had a home lab and unfettered Internet I may have gone far down that route. LATAM is such a great location for the US market. I have a colleague from Argentina and the guy is low key working for 3 employers at the time. All in tech. This na person wey read law for uni o! Baba threw himself into tech and now is in charge of writing a lot of python and bash scripts to automate our work. Hin self dey privately automate all his personal work so does actual work for only like 10 hours per week with the remaining hours running on several of his personal automations

LATAM is great for the US market but the interview process in tech here is not a joke at all. Interviews here are very hard and thorough and long too with multiple stages.
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by DyingFetus: 3:22pm On Apr 12
tensazangetsu20:


LATAM is great for the US market but the interview process in tech here is not a joke at all. Interviews here are very hard and thorough and long too with multiple stages.


Hiring is changing

Very easy to get jobs through nepo and open source contribution in company's repo
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by MindHacker9009(m): 4:32pm On Apr 12
airsaylongcome:
I'm left of center and always like to thread the part least followed. I'd say consider a career in real time communications. VoIP specifically. Learn Asterisk or Freeswitch.

Recently stumbled across some Nigerian guys working for Telnyx as devs. Glass door suggests they may be pulling in around $100k per annum although I think it's closer to $84k. These are direct full-time employees, not Independent Contractors like us.

Serious connections are needed to get such full-time jobs, if you know you know!
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by airsaylongcome: 4:55pm On Apr 12
MindHacker9009:


Serious connections are needed to get such full-time jobs, if you know you know!

Naaaah bruv. Let's disabuse our mindset like this. Is it harder to get now with serious reduction in remote work? Yes. But I assure you it has nothing to do with "connection" (nepotism). One of the Telnyx guys had been working on Freeswitch (a telephony software) for sometime, contributing several modules to another software that relies on Freeswitch. All open source. When you put in the effort, it pays in the end. Not all employers are like Nigerian employers. Tons of them hire based on competence.

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Re: Tech Skill To Learn by SourYoghurt: 5:19pm On Apr 12
This VOIP, do you have Roadmap for dummies to master and does it require buying "tools" and hardware, thank you in anticipation.
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by MindHacker9009(m): 3:35pm On Apr 13
airsaylongcome:


Naaaah bruv. Let's disabuse our mindset like this. Is it harder to get now with serious reduction in remote work? Yes. But I assure you it has nothing to do with "connection" (nepotism). One of the Telnyx guys had been working on Freeswitch (a telephony software) for sometime, contributing several modules to another software that relies on Freeswitch. All open source. When you put in the effort, it pays in the end. Not all employers are like Nigerian employers. Tons of them hire based on competence.

You don't know the real world. If such a claim can be made in such a well regulated field overseas: "Gang culture at neurosurgery department, doctor alleges https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1vw50n04kqo then what goes on in software sector where there are no regulations and anyone can just walk into it.

Also you should read this that happened overseas: Post Office scandal explained: What the Horizon saga is all about https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56718036
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by airsaylongcome: 4:50pm On Apr 13
MindHacker9009:


You don't know the real world. If such a claim can be made in such a well regulated field overseas: "Gang culture at neurosurgery department, doctor alleges https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1vw50n04kqo then what goes on in software sector where there are no regulations and anyone can just walk into it.

Also you should read this that happened overseas: Post Office scandal explained: What the Horizon saga is all about https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56718036

If you want to bury your head in outliers like these. Be my guest. My experience has been very different and I am not going to banter or exchange words with you that "connection" is what is needed to get high paying jobs. I'm going to put my back into it and prove my mettle. Have a great day
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by airsaylongcome: 4:52pm On Apr 13
SourYoghurt:
This VOIP, do you have Roadmap for dummies to master and does it require buying "tools" and hardware, thank you in anticipation.

I don't have a clearly mapped out plan. But my advice for anyone looking to enter is to start of with the book "Asterisk: The Definitive Guide. 5th ed"

Also register on training.sangoma.com and take the free online course "Asterisk Essentials" and seat for the certification exam as aell

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Re: Tech Skill To Learn by MindHacker9009(m): 4:57pm On Apr 13
airsaylongcome:

If you want to bury your head in outliers like these. Be my guest. My experience has been very different and I am not going to banter or exchange words with you that "connection" is what is needed to get high paying jobs. I'm going to put my back into it and prove my mettle. Have a great day

You can bury your head in your own world you have invented for yourself. But the real world is far from what you know.
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by airsaylongcome: 5:17pm On Apr 13
MindHacker9009:


You can bury your head in your own world you have created for yourself. But the real world is far from what you know.

Lol! Have a great day
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by tosinhtml: 9:01pm On Apr 13
tensazangetsu20:


LATAM is great for the US market but the interview process in tech here is not a joke at all. Interviews here are very hard and thorough and long too with multiple stages.

What is the average number of interview stages and is this constant for all company size, startups to medium size companies?
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by tensazangetsu20(m): 9:35pm On Apr 13
tosinhtml:


What is the average number of interview stages and is this constant for all company size, startups to medium size companies?

At big companies average interview stages is around 6 stages with at least 3 technical interviews. Smaller companies have 3 to 4 with one or two technical interviews stages.
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by MindHacker9009(m): 11:01pm On Apr 13
tensazangetsu20:

At big companies average interview stages is around 6 stages with at least 3 technical interviews. Smaller companies have 3 to 4 with one or two technical interviews stages.

The question no one is asking is whether any of their own full time staff in those companies can pass those technical interviews under the same conditions.

I once heard that a lead dev was asked by his manager to pass on a technical test to interview candidates, so the lead dev decided to give the technical test to their own devs first and guess what none of them could pass the technical test.

The truth is that getting most of these tech roles is who you know not what you know. But only with a very good luck and very good ability can someone not connected still manage to get such tech roles.
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by tensazangetsu20(m): 12:17am On Apr 14
MindHacker9009:


The question no one is asking is whether any of their own full time staff in those companies can pass those technical interviews under the same conditions.

I once heard that a lead dev was asked by his manager to pass on a technical test to interview candidates, so the lead dev decided to give the technical test to their own devs first and guess what none of them could pass the technical test.

The truth is that getting most of these tech roles is who you know not what you know. But only with a very good luck and very good ability can someone not connected still manage to get such tech roles.

The interviews aren't undoable. They just require a lot of preparation and attention to detail. Man know man only makes the interview process much more difficult except it's a rubbish company.
Re: Tech Skill To Learn by tosinhtml: 12:35am On Apr 14
tensazangetsu20:


The interviews aren't undoable. They just require a lot of preparation and attention to detail. Man know man only makes the interview process much more difficult except it's a rubbish company.

Yeah, but also in some cases when Indians & Pakistanis are involved in smaller companies, I've seen them giving the proposed tech questions to their fellow Indian applicants prior to the interview. They do this thing underground a lot with their own people, some of those interviews are not on a fair playing field with everyone.

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