The story of Noah and the "Great Flood" is basically one of the most iconic yet apocryphal tales in judeo - christianity. We all heard the story growing up, but without even considering the implausibilty and feasibility, we may have overlooked the mythological elements similarly found in ancient near eastern cultures. The paralllels with the mythology of these older cultures and religions basically explains the origins of the apocryphal tale and how the it was passed down overtime to newer cultures and religions and adapted for purpose.

**The Epic of Gilgamesh:**
One of the most notable parallels to the story of Noah is found in the Epic of Gilgamesh, an ancient Mesopotamian poem from around 2100 BCE. In this epic, the character Utnapishtim recounts a tale very similar to Noah's. Like Noah, Utnapishtim is warned by a god (in this case, Ea) about an impending flood. He builds a massive ark to save himself, his family, and representatives of the animal kingdom. After the flood subsides, Utnapishtim sends out birds to search for dry land, much like the dove sent by Noah. The gods in the Epic of Gilgamesh decide to flood the earth due to human overpopulation and noise, while in the biblical narrative, God sends the flood to cleanse the Earth of wickedness.

**The Atrahasis Epic:**
Another Mesopotamian text, the Atrahasis Epic, dating back to around 1700 BCE, also features a flood story. In this tale, the gods create humans to serve them, but the noise of humanity becomes too much to bear. The god Enlil decides to send a flood to destroy humanity, but the god Enki warns the protagonist, Atrahasis, to build an ark to survive the food. This flood is caused by the gods' frustration with the noise and overpopulation of humanity, echoing themes found in both the Epic of Gilgamesh and the story of Noah.

**The Ziusudra Myth:**
In Sumerian mythology, the Ziusudra myth tells of a great flood sent by the gods to destroy humanity. Ziusudra, the Sumerian equivalent of Noah, is instructed by the god Enki to build a boat to escape the flood. After the floodwaters recede, Ziusudra offers sacrifices to the gods and is granted immortality. This story predates both the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Atrahasis Epic, iindicating the enduring presence of flood myths in ancient Near Eastern cultures.

Basially, the story of Noah and the "Great Flood" is just one iteration of a widespread mythological motif that transcends neighouring cultural and religious boundaries, nothing more than myth.The implausibility and contradictions in the story itself further enhance this claim. Like the varying accounts of the length of the period of rain in the flood. How all the species alive(considering biodiversity and geographical and climate challenges) fit into a boat of that size when they're in millions and wouldn't even fit in the largest mordern day cruise ship.

For example was it just 2 bears or 2 Brown bears, 2 black bears, 2 polar bears, 2 sloth bears... lets not even talk about more biodiverse species, some of which have gone extinct. Its not just feasible or plausible. Flood myths have been a part of ancient near eastern cultures and the hebrew tale is nothing more than an iteration and adaptation of the tale from older cultures. A myth and nothing more.

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No offense bro, i understand where u coming from as christainity actually assmilated stuffs from other religions but this graphic you posted is basically mashed up garbage, except maybe I'm ignorant and don't understand it. I presume there's a lot of incorrect info depicted as fact from the little i know. First off Nimrod is basically from Judeo-Christain texts and im sure you can't provide refrences to Nimrod explicitly named in any valid mesopotamian texts, not to talk of being linked with the goddess ishtar.

Secondly how is Inanna persian?! She's basically Ishtar and she's sumerian. Over time as religious and cultural influences shifted she became known as Ishtar and there's no valid sources for her connection to the hebrew bible guy Nimrod. So i very much doubt the story here. Very few sources like the 'Damudiz-Inanna' myth depicts Tammuz another deity as her son. Most depict him as her consort/Lover like the well known 'Decent of Inanna', when she went underworld to save him. Caveat here been oral traditions obviously differed between similar cultures.

So the story doesn't jive, no reputable and valid sources to back the Dec 25th birth of Tammuz either. Non from mesopotamian texts. Also Baal being Roman... 30BCE, Nah! So i presume rest of the info is wrong as well. Definitely  elements of truth there though about the general central claim.

Yes, they incorporated it into their own belief system. They are just myths.

We are expected to read them and learn the spiritual messages in them..

Nothing more nothing less..

22jumpstreet:
Yes, they incorporated it into their own belief system. They are just myths.

We are expected to read them and learn the spiritual messages in them..

Nothing more nothing less..

I don't see no spiritual messages in them but fair enough. Valid point.

The similarities further confirms the truth of the Bible.

There were 3 brothers in their ark. All three would share their stories with their children. The story would spread from each child to several generations. Different versions of the stories would arise with the passage of time since it is being passed down by oral tradition. But the bottom-line of the story will remain true - that there was once a flood that erased the whole world.

While satan has infused the story with lies by telling the human race that a god destroyed the earth with a flood because men made too much noise, the Bible made it clear that God Almighty destroyed the earth with a flood because of sin and wickedness. Satan does not want to discourage anyone from sinning and doing wickedness, so you can expect him to lead people astray and tell them the flood happened because of some noise while he also tells some others that there was never a flood.

If the flood story was only found in the Bible without having any extra biblical counterpart, we might have reasons to question the Biblical narration. This is because, the Bible alone cannot be the only source of information for an event that was witnessed by the whole world.

It is a lack of sound judgement for anyone to disparage the Biblical account just because it is found in other myths. The myths further confirm the Biblical narrative. They do not negate it in anyway.

FxMasterz:
The similarities further confirms the truth of the Bible.

There were 3 brothers in their ark. All three would share their stories with their children. The story would spread from each child to several generations. Different versions of the stories would arise with the passage of time since it is being passed down by oral tradition. But the bottom-line of the story will remain true - that there was one a flood that erased the whole world.

While satan has infused the story with lies by telling the human race that a god destroyed the earth with a flood because men made too much noise, the Bible made it clear that God Almighty destroyed the earth with a flood because of sin and wickedness. Satan does not want to discourage anyone from sinning and doing wickedness, so you can expect him to lead people astray and tell them the flood happened because some noise while he also tells some others that there was never a flood.

If the flood story was only found in the Bible without having any extrabiblical counterpart, we might have reasons to question the Biblical narration. This is because, the Bible alone cannot be the only source of information for an event that was witnessed by the whole world.

It is a lack of sound judgement for anyone to disparage the Biblically account just because it is found in other myths. The myths further confirm the Biblical narrative. They do not negate it in anyway.

Ah yes! I like how u literally think out of the box. Its definitely plausible that the brothers would share the stories with their children and their children would go back in time at least 1000+ years to share the story with the oldest civilizations and have them documented before coming back to their time to tell the story. Oh! and passing it down orally. before being finally documented thousands of years later. Totally agree. While at it pls also provide valid sources for this "one flood". I wnt to think out of the box too.🙂

Lucifyre:


Ah yes! I like how u literally think out of the box. Its definitely plausible that the brothers would share the stories with their children and their children would go back in time at least 1000+ years to share the story with the oldest civilizations and have them documented before coming back to their time to tell the story. Oh! and passing it down orally. before being finally documented thousands of years later. Totally agree. While at it pls also provide valid sources for this "one flood". I wnt to think out of the box too.🙂

Here are 10 flood stories from history, myth, and folklore, along with their valid sources. I'm posting just 10 out of numerous available sources.

1. Mesopotamian Flood Myths
- Epic of Gilgamesh: As you have mentioned earlier, this ancient Mesopotamian epic contains a flood story. The flood narrative can be found in Tablet XI of the Epic of Gilgamesh.
- Atrahasis Epic: This Babylonian myth also includes a flood story. The flood narrative can be found in Tablet III of the Atrahasis Epic.

2. Greek Mythology:
- Deucalion and Pyrrha: This flood myth is recounted in Ovid's Metamorphoses, specifically in Book I.
- Hyginus's Fabulae: Hyginus, a Latin author, also includes a version of the flood myth in his work Fabulae, particularly in Fabula 153.

3. Chinese Mythology:
- Classic of Mountains and Seas (Shan Hai Jing): This ancient Chinese text contains the story of the Great Flood. References to the flood myth can be found in various sections of the Classic of Mountains and Seas.
- Chronicles of Huayang: This historical text from ancient China also mentions the Great Flood.

4. Native American Flood Myths:
- Hopi Flood Myth: This myth is part of the oral tradition of the Hopi people. It has been documented in various anthropological and ethnographic studies of Native American cultures.
- Navajo Flood Story: The Navajo people also have a flood story known as the Emergence or Glittering World story, which describes a cataclysmic flood and the survival of humans and animals.

5. Sumerian Mythology:
- Eridu Genesis: This Sumerian myth includes a flood story and can be found in various Sumerian literary texts. The flood narrative is part of the wider Eridu Genesis narrative.

6. Indian Mythology:
- Matsya Purana: The Matsya Purana, one of the eighteen major Puranas in Hinduism, contains a flood story involving the god Vishnu taking the form of a fish to save Manu and various creatures.

7. [b[Egyptian Mythology:[/b]
- The Book of the Heavenly Cow: This ancient Egyptian text contains a flood myth involving the destruction of humanity by the sun god Ra and the subsequent rebirth of the world.

8. Norse Mythology:
- Gylfaginning (Prose Edda): In Norse mythology, there is a story about a great flood called the Fimbulwinter, which is described in the Prose Edda attributed to Snorri Sturluson.

9. Polynesian Mythology:
- Te Punga-o-Nuku (Maori Mythology): Maori mythology includes a flood story known as Te Punga-o-Nuku, where a man named Tāwhaki saves himself and his family from a deluge.

10. Japanese Mythology:
- Kojiki and Nihon Shoki: These ancient Japanese texts contain references to a mythological flood known as the Age of the Gods flood, which plays a significant role in the creation and history of Japan.

These sources provide a diverse range of flood myths from various cultures, showcasing common themes of cataclysmic floods, survival on boats or arks, divine intervention, and the renewal of life after the flood.

FxMasterz:



Here are 10 flood stories from history, myth, and folklore, along with their valid sources. I'm posting just 10 out of numerous available sources.

1. Mesopotamian Flood Myths
- Epic of Gilgamesh: As you have mentioned earlier, this ancient Mesopotamian epic contains a flood story. The flood narrative can be found in Tablet XI of the Epic of Gilgamesh.
- Atrahasis Epic: This Babylonian myth also includes a flood story. The flood narrative can be found in Tablet III of the Atrahasis Epic.

2. Greek Mythology:
- Deucalion and Pyrrha: This flood myth is recounted in Ovid's Metamorphoses, specifically in Book I.
- Hyginus's Fabulae: Hyginus, a Latin author, also includes a version of the flood myth in his work Fabulae, particularly in Fabula 153.

3. Chinese Mythology:
- Classic of Mountains and Seas (Shan Hai Jing): This ancient Chinese text contains the story of the Great Flood. References to the flood myth can be found in various sections of the Classic of Mountains and Seas.
- Chronicles of Huayang: This historical text from ancient China also mentions the Great Flood.

4. Native American Flood Myths:
- Hopi Flood Myth: This myth is part of the oral tradition of the Hopi people. It has been documented in various anthropological and ethnographic studies of Native American cultures.
- Navajo Flood Story: The Navajo people also have a flood story known as the Emergence or Glittering World story, which describes a cataclysmic flood and the survival of humans and animals.

5. Sumerian Mythology:
- Eridu Genesis: This Sumerian myth includes a flood story and can be found in various Sumerian literary texts. The flood narrative is part of the wider Eridu Genesis narrative.

6. Indian Mythology:
- Matsya Purana: The Matsya Purana, one of the eighteen major Puranas in Hinduism, contains a flood story involving the god Vishnu taking the form of a fish to save Manu and various creatures.

7. [b[Egyptian Mythology:[/b]
- The Book of the Heavenly Cow: This ancient Egyptian text contains a flood myth involving the destruction of humanity by the sun god Ra and the subsequent rebirth of the world.

8. Norse Mythology:
- Gylfaginning (Prose Edda): In Norse mythology, there is a story about a great flood called the Fimbulwinter, which is described in the Prose Edda attributed to Snorri Sturluson.

9. Polynesian Mythology:
- Te Punga-o-Nuku (Maori Mythology): Maori mythology includes a flood story known as Te Punga-o-Nuku, where a man named Tāwhaki saves himself and his family from a deluge.

10. Japanese Mythology:
- Kojiki and Nihon Shoki: These ancient Japanese texts contain references to a mythological flood known as the Age of the Gods flood, which plays a significant role in the creation and history of Japan.

These sources provide a diverse range of flood myths from various cultures, showcasing common themes of cataclysmic floods, survival on boats or arks, divine intervention, and the renewal of life after the flood.

So... more iterations of myths like the Noah story. How does myth qualify as objective fact?! I wonder. How does providing more myth prove a certain myth happened. And please get rid of the "history" in ur reply and leave just the folklore and myth cause i certainly see no historical valid sources of "the flood", talkless of scientific or archeological or geographical.

Lucifyre:


So... more iterations of myths like the Noah story. How does myth qualify as objective fact?! I wonder. How does providing more myth prove a certain myth happened. And please get rid of the "history" in ur reply and leave just the folklore and myth cause i certainly see no historical valid sources of "the flood", talkless of scientific or archeological or geographical.

It's simple all their ancestors told them stories about a global deluge but since there was no proper documentation the only source we have today that has all the details is the Bible inspired by the Creator Himself!

Lucifyre:


So... more iterations of myths like the Noah story. How does myth qualify as objective fact?! I wonder. How does providing more myth prove a certain myth happened. And please get rid of the "history" in ur reply and leave just the folklore and myth cause i certainly see no historical valid sources of "the flood", talkless of scientific or archeological or geographical.

How do you want to get historical valid sources for things that happened ever before Writing was invented? Are you kidding me?

We call it myth only because it is delivered through oral tradition. After thousands of years, historical facts delivered through oral traditions would be regarded as myths.

If for instance you yourself never wrote a book, and you depart this world without anything written about you. Someday, your existent would be regarded as a myth.

The fact that many ancient cultures hold this myth in their tradition is evidence that something like that took place. It happened. The striking similarities between the narrations also prove it happened as these stories are not told by people who sat down at the same table to formulate the same myth.

MaxInDHouse:


It's simple all their ancestors told them stories about a global deluge but since there was no proper documentation the only source we have today that has all the details is the Bible inspired by the Creator Himself!

Cool... So we just accept every story we are told as fact and proof like the Nigeria India 99 - 1 story, thats without even getting into the inefficacy of oral history. But then you say "inspired" by the creator. If this story was inspired by the creator, shouldn't it be free from contradictions?

FxMasterz:

The fact that many ancient cultures hold this myth in their tradition is evident that something like that took place. It happened. The striking similarities between the narrations also proves it happened as these stories are not by people who sat down at the same table to formulate the same myth.

Exactly what i was coming to say.

Lucifyre:

Cool... So we just accept every story we are told as fact and proof like the Nigeria India 99 - 1 story, thats without even getting into the inefficacy of oral history. But then you say "inspired" by the creator. If this story was inspired by the creator, shouldn't it be free from contradictions?

The inspired writers never contradict themselves no Bible book goes against the fact that Noah built an ark and eight souls were saved. It's people who weren't inspired but whose ancestors heard something similar that are contradicting themselves.

FxMasterz:


How do you want to get historical valid sources for things that happened ever before Writing was invented? Are you kidding me?

We call it myth only because it is delivered through oral tradition. After thousands of years, historical facts delivered through oral traditions would be regarded as myths.

If for instance you yourself never wrote a book, and you depart this world without anything written about you. Someday, your existent would be regarded as a myth.

The fact that many ancient cultures hold this myth in their tradition is evidence that something like that took place. It happened. The striking similarities between the narrations also prove it happened as these stories are not told by people who sat down at the same table to formulate the same myth.

First of, its not called myth because its delivered through "oral traditions". That's oral history. Myths typically refers to traditional stories, narratives, or legends that may incorporate elements of history, symbolism, and cultural beliefs. Besides the bones wouldnt dissapear, itll be there to be found as hard evidence, carbon dating and dental records would identify the Doe.

Secondly it seems the sacarsm of my previous comment flew over or maybe some comprehension issues even after reading the post ergo ill break it downl.  Simple question was Noah Sumerian? Yes or No?! Cause those other flood stories mentioned there came about from the oldest civilization that existed thousands of years before your isrealites. Those stories were documented thousands of years before the compilation of the Tanakh.
So how come your iteration of the story comes first and is the valid one hence my sacarstic comment about Noah's children going back in time.

like i said nothing more than a succesive iteration of the myth from their fellow older mesopotaminan neighbours before them. And it'll always be a myth beacuse there'll never be sources to back it up. Unlike these various flood myths, we have various fact based evidence for things we weren't there for like, the formation of continents, glacial periods and ice age, speration of the continents, explosions of volcanoes and even some from oral history like oral accounts of native American tribe migrations supported by hard evidence. Of course unlike a global catastrophic flood without even a shred of geological or archaeological evidence for something of that magnitude.

And lastly the fact that similar motifs with differing accounts never serves as proof for said motif. Does the fact we have a motifs across different cultures that say the world was created from Chaos mean its true?! The dragon slayer motif across different cultures means dragons exist?! The fact that we have stories from different cultures about the journies to the underworld means it exists and u go and return?! Come on! The ironic thing been even the point of the flood was defeated.

MaxInDHouse:

The inspired writers never contradict themselves no Bible book goes against the fact that Noah built an ark and eight souls were saved. It's people who weren't inspired but whose ancestors heard something similar that are contradicting themselves.

You don't say. How long did the rains fall for?

Lucifyre:

You don't say. How long did the rains fall for?

If you're a policeman sent to investigate a case will you just rap it up as lies after hearing different stories from people?
Real investigators continue their job until they get to the root which is the person who can give you all the details.
So if you want to know all the details about the global deluge go and find a copy of the Bible!

MaxInDHouse:

If you're a policeman sent to investigate a case will you just rap it up as lies after hearing different stories from people?
Real investigators continue their job until they get to the root which is the person who can give you all the details.
So if you want to know all the details about the global deluge go and find a copy of the Bible!

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Simple question, simple answer, already babbling. U answering the question or nah? Quite simple really, no unecessary analogies.

Lucifyre:

And lastly the fact that similar motifs with differing accounts never serves as proof for said motif. Does the fact we have a motifs across different cultures that say the world was created from Chaos mean its true?! The dragon slayer motif across different cultures means dragons exist?! The fact that we have stories from different cultures about the journies to the underworld means it exists and u go and return?! Come on! The ironic thing been even the point of the flood was defeated.

Your problem is you are so destroyed with lies and you love liez that you no longer know what is True.

I bet you can't even tell the if a mechanic coming to.repair your vehicle on the road, is a mechanic.

Truth can only be seen by those with truth in them. He who does not have Truth in his heart, will always be blind to it.
Suzy Kassem,

And if you do not like the bible why do you not live your life like the bible does not exist?

Lucifyre:
First of, its not called myth because its delivered through "oral traditions". That's oral history. Myths typically refers to traditional stories, narratives, or legends that may incorporate elements of history, symbolism, and cultural beliefs. Besides the bones wouldnt dissapear, itll be there to be found as hard evidence, carbon dating and dental records would identify the Doe.

Maybe you don't understand what I meant. Every myth started as an oral tradition until it metamorphoses into a myth with varying degrees of distortions. If history is written down, it will never become a myth even in the next 10 million years. That cannot be said of oral history.

If bones have not been found today, who says they won't be found tomorrow? Have archeologists uncovered all there is to be unconvered in the earth?

Secondly it seems the sacarsm of my previous comment flew over or maybe some comprehension issues even after reading the post ergo ill break it downl.  Simple question was Noah Sumerian? Yes or No?! Cause those other flood stories mentioned there came about from the oldest civilization that existed thousands of years before your isrealites. Those stories were documented thousands of years before the compilation of the Tanakh.
So how come your iteration of the story comes first and is the valid one hence my sacarstic comment about Noah's children going back in time.

Noah preceded the Sumerians, so how can he be Sumerian? Or do you think the biblical accounts were compiled at the same time the flood events took place? If the stories have been 'documented' as you claimed before the Tanakh was written, what makes you disbelieve the story? The absence of bones?

like i said nothing more than a succesive iteration of the myth from their fellow older mesopotaminan neighbours before them. And it'll always be a myth beacuse there'll never be sources to back it up. Unlike these various flood myths, we have various fact based evidence for things we weren't there for like, the formation of continents, glacial periods and ice age, speration of the continents, explosions of volcanoes and even some from oral history like oral accounts of native American tribe migrations supported by hard evidence. Of course unlike a global catastrophic flood without even a shred of geological or archaeological evidence for something of that magnitude.

What type of evidence do you need for the flood? You want to see ancient waters that flooded the earth? Or you want to see ancient bone fossils that are in the earth? How are you to differentiate a fossil from the flood catastrophe to a non-flood fossil? And I ask you again? How old is archeology? Have they finished exploring the whole world?

And lastly the fact that similar motifs with differing accounts never serves as proof for said motif. Does the fact we have a motifs across different cultures that say the world was created from Chaos mean its true?! The dragon slayer motif across different cultures means dragons exist?! The fact that we have stories from different cultures about the journies to the underworld means it exists and u go and return?! Come on! The ironic thing been even the point of the flood was defeated.

All the myths you mentioned prove something happened. It may not be as exactly as they described it, but there's something that happened. And who told you a dragon never existed? You might be long gone before science finds evidence for that. Many things science claimed in the past have been reviewed in the face of new findings. If different cultures say the world was created from chaos, it only shows the thinking of the ancients about the origin of the world. What's the difference between the Big bang theory and the Chaos myth? What the ancients call chaos, science calls it big bang.

When myths are found in different cultures with similar lines of narration, there's one truth to it all even though the accounts may conflict. A flood happened, and different cultures try to narrate it in different ways.

Lucifyre:


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Simple question, simple answer, already babbling. U answering the question or nah? Quite simple really, no unecessary analogies.

Guy if you read books you should know how many days at least you have many stories so pick whatever they told you the point is you can't dispute the fact that all races agreed that there was a global deluge!

All these flood stories and you are still doubting

Well search for Igbos, Yorubas and even Binis account of the deluge and you will find more. The fact that all have something to say about the deluge shows that it happened. The Igbo survivor was Eri. Their was only one Survivor and together with his family a new world began. The problem is how their ancestors interpreted it to them

What Many of You Don't Know About this World

This world is ruled by some wicked god men. Ea was one of those gods mentioned above. He is Enki and today known as Yahweh. He is not God Almighty but one of his sons. His .brother his Enlil. They are the ones responsible for the flood.

When the world is ripe. Their is usually a reset. The reset is usually by flood or fire. Many will die. Few will excape and a few willl be left to begin a new world. This is the program of the gods. In the bible you see it in the time of Noah and Sodom and Gomorrah. It happened many time. Search for Ourtruth on this forum and read many if his write ups. He wrote a lot on this issue. It's the god game!

Lucifyre:


I don't see no spiritual messages in them but fair enough. Valid point.

Well, I guess you are still a toddler...

When you grow up you will understand..

It's all about time...

Too much population
Wow.
Too much wickedness
Wow.

MaxInDHouse:

Guy if you read books you should know how many days at least you have many stories so pick whatever they told you the point is you can't dispute the fact that all races agreed that there was a global deluge!

Simple question u running mouth like tap😄. You cant even get ur story straight.

bobestman:
All these flood stories and you are still doubting

Well search for Igbos, Yorubas and even Binis account of the deluge and you will find more. The fact that all have something to say about the deluge shows that it happened. The Igbo survivor was Eri. Their was only one Survivor and together with his family a new world began. The problem is how their ancestors interpreted it to them

What Many of You Don't Know About this World

This world is ruled by some wicked god men. Ea was one of those gods mentioned above. He is Enki and today known as Yahweh. He is not God Almighty but one of his sons. His .brother his Enlil. They are the ones responsible for the flood.
When the world is ripe. Their is usjsuually a ret. The reset is usully by flood or fire. Many will die. Few will excape and a few willl be left to begin a new world. This is the program ofe the gods. In the bible you see it in the time of Noah and Sodom and Gomorrah. It happened many time. Search for Ourtruth on this forum and read many if his write ups. He wrote a lot on this issue. It's the god game!

Myth mythology myth. Without proof it'll be nothing more. Floods have been happening everywhere forever. Heck there's even one going on in Brazil right now. They had no sensible explanations and attributed it to something else same as the eclipse. Now we know better. So except u have proof of a global flood occuring, its empty talk.

22jumpstreet:


Well, I guess you are still a toddler...

When you grow up you will understand..

It's all about time...

I sure do aspire to attain the ancient wisdom of the random nobody on the internet. Hope to be like u when i grow up.

Lucifyre:

Simple question u running mouth like tap😄. You cant even get ur story straight.

You see your problem?

Different books from different races told stories and after considering it all i agreed with one as the real truth of the matter so it has now become my story shey?

FxMasterz:


Maybe you don't understand what I meant. Every myth started as an oral tradition until it metamorphoses into a myth with varying degrees of distortions. If history is written down, it will never become a myth even in the next 10 million years. That cannot be said of oral history.

If bones have not been found today, who says they won't be found tomorrow? Have archeologists uncovered all there is to be unconvered in the earth?


Noah preceded the Sumerians, so how can he be Sumerian? Or do you think the biblical accounts were compiled at the same time the flood events took place? If the stories have been 'documented' as you claimed before the Tanakh was written, what makes you disbelieve the story? The absence of bones?


What type of evidence do you need for the flood? You want to see ancient waters that flooded the earth? Or you want to see ancient bone fossils that are in the earth? How are you to differentiate a fossil from the flood catastrophe to a non-flood fossil? And I ask you again? How old is archeology? Have they finished exploring the whole world?



All the myths you mentioned prove something happened. It may not be as exactly as they described it, but there's something that happened. And who told you a dragon never existed? You might be long gone before science finds evidence for that. Many things science claimed in the past have been reviewed in the face of new findings. If different cultures say the world was created from chaos, it only shows the thinking of the ancients about the origin of the world. What's the difference between the Big bang theory and the Chaos myth? What the ancients call chaos, science calls it big bang.

When myths are found in different cultures with similar lines of narration, there's one truth to it all even though the accounts may conflict. A flood happened, and different cultures try to narrate it in different ways.

"If for instance you yourself never wrote a book, and you depart this world without anything written about you. Someday, your existent would be regarded as a myth."
I responded with the bones comment to the above, so uve ended up contradicting urself. Written history offers some advantages in terms of preservation and longevity, it is not immune to the influence of myth, interpretation, and cultural bias. See king authur, Beowulf, the fact its written down doesn't stop it from being myth, they blended historical elements with myth, so wth?!

Good so Noah wasnt Sumerian, so what culture was he from? And please show me sources that show his culture was the oldest existing civilization for his own story to come before the sumerians. And please i wonder the oldest writings in the bibl:e can be dated to when as against the sumerian texts?? As for why i disbelieve the story its common sense really, its proven fact and i repeat proven objective fact that a global flood never occured leading to loss of all life. Not the way the sumerians before you said it happened, not the way you said it happened in your bible after adapting their story. If u say it did, please prove it. If you say your story came first before theirs countering all the researches by scholars, please prove it. Objective facts and evidence, not mythology and myth. And trust me i know more about the historical context of the writing of your bible than you do but thats not even relevant.

You seriously did not ask me about what kind of evidence. Are u having a laugh or being purposefully obtuse. How did we find out about any of the examples in my previous comment. Im tired of typing but let me just highlight a few ways to educate you, you could read up on em fully l8r to educate urself better.  Geological Evidence - Sedimentary layers or deposits indicative of a global flood would be found worldwide, suggesting widespread inundation and sedimentation. Paleontological Evidence - Fossil records would show evidence of mass extinction events and rapid burial of organisms across different environments and geographic regions, it would be too numerous to be undiscoverable by now, abi nor be the whole world die😁??Genetic Evidence : Genetic studies of extant species would reveal patterns of population bottlenecks, genetic diversity, and phylogenetic relationships consistent with recent population reductions and subsequent expansions. Just to name a few , you have access to the internet right?!

Yes the myths prove something happened, did it hapoen the way they said it did? obviously no, from their implausible and even contradictory accounts like the noah story. The Aztecs believed the gods blocked out the sun cause they were angry with em and scarificed people to bring bk the sun. Did the gods block the sun cause they were angry?! No..  Did the sun get blocked... Yes. It was just an eclipse. Did they understand that?! No... So they explained it how best they could. Floods happen all the time, one's going on in Brazil right now. Ancient people on average were less travelled and much of the world undiscovered then, so if ur city's flooded its like the whole world's flooded and worst part u dont understand why, so u explain it as best u can. Basically the god's are mad.

If you say Drogon, Rhegal and Bealon the dread  existed, prove it😁. Afterall dinosaurs did'nt hide nau. Its funny you allude to the same science thats disproven your story but thats the beauty of science, its isnt close minded, it works on observable evidence to prove and disprove and when new observable evidence comes up, its open minded enough to accept it, not bendover backwards doing mental gymnastics on dem say, dem say. If i wouldn't just believe everything i read in this 21st century, why should i believe something written, compiled, redacted, edited, copied over 1500 year period with a lot of pseudepigraphy from unknown authors, Kafkaesque translations, different genres filled with contradictions and what we even have today's so removed from the original texts as they're copies of copies of copies of copies. Even when you photocopy something too much, it becomes illegible. Occam's razor man.

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You see your problem?

Different books from different races told stories and after considering it all i agreed with one as the real truth of the matter so it has now become my story shey?

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You said the inspired writers never contradict themselves. I said tor. How many days did the rains falll for, you come dey talk plenty to perform tangential mental gymnastics.

Ok . pls explain this differing lengths of the rainfall in Gen 7: 17 and Gen 7 : 24. It didnt even go to a different chapter to contadict itself. lol!