if we were t take a long but not too long gaze back wat do say we remember prisident obasanjo for,i wonder if our leaders work to be remembered or forgotten,what will you remeber baba for so fAR,SINCE HE LEFT OFFICE ?

I will remember him as a magician, who turned 20,000 Naira to $20b (all within 8 yrs).

I will always remember OBJ for his unguided utterances.

ooooop. well

well i remember oby 4 his wickedness, and if he does'nt change i will be sure he wont need a gate fee to hell

hike in fuel prices!! he definitely gets the medal.

We are yet to find out all his misdeeds. Some have been buried under "olumo" rock. We would need archaeologists to excavate all the man's atrocities committed against Nigeria. So far the worst dictator that ever ruled Nigeria. Thanks to OBJ we are yet to have the first duly elected president and government officials in Nigeria. We wish him well.

do u remember Him for any good at all,tots

Yes! For at least leaving Nigeria still traceable on the world map! Hey, we can't ask for much you know. This is good enough for me.

na wa oh!,i get u ,its ok but i just tot there was a thing or two u would want to say of the man,he had sincerity of purpose at some point ,i know he was doing well at some point and i want to give that to the man is not easy,i agree he was distracted at some point but that is not to say that he did no good ,i am just trying to be objective

i know he was doing well at some point

He was also a born again at one point!

tell me abt it,i am not his lawyer,u win, i truely just wanted to know wat we remember him for,and hope that ,our servant leader reads wot u have said.

toksdam:

i know he was doing well at some point and i want to give that to the man is not easy,i agree he was distracted at some point but that is not to say that he did no good ,i am just trying to be objective

Please let us know the point when he was doing well and also the ppl that distracted him.

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He nearly committed day time robbery if at all he did not commit.

his war with his old body, turaki, was his undoing,he did well with our image abroad,our depth abroad,our foriegn reserve too,pls dont make it a war of situations, i am just trying to hear wat u have of him.abeg good or bad lets hear it pls,i am here

HI THIS BEEJAY NEW AT NAIRALAND ,
ON THE DISCUSSION U TAIK ABOUT THAT FORMER PRESIDENT IS NOT DOING WELL LET ME TELL U SOMETHING BABA TRY OOOOOOOOOO IS NOT EASY TO BE A LEADER EVEN ROME THAT BEAUTIFUL IS NOT BUILD IN ONE DAY SO CHECK OUT EVEN IS U ALSO IS AT THAT POSTION PEOPLE WILL TAIK ABOUT U U GOOD AND THE BAD U NO

beejay4all,i guess u have ur point there but wat do u remeber him for,i agree with u dat he did his best within the ability he could muster ,and its not easy being a leader,from my xperience i tell u dats true,so wat good or bad do u remeber baba for ,thanks and welcome to the forum i hope u have a great stay.

toksdam:

beejay4all,i guess u have your point there but[b] what do u remeber him for[/b],i agree with u that he did his best within the ability he could muster ,and its not easy being a leader,from my xperience i tell u that is true,so what good or bad do u remeber baba for ,thanks and welcome to the forum i hope u have a great stay.

Tee! hee! hee! hee!   Please call for back up!  I think you are losing blood fast!   This your one man war is not going to work at all.

Big B1:



He was also a born again at one point!

presido1:

Please let us know the point when he was doing well and also the people that distracted him.
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He nearly committed day time robbery if at all he did not commit.

You guys are so silly!   I refuse to die on account of your "silliness"!  You guys are terrific!

silly////, where did dat come from.well

toksdam:

silly////, where did that come from.well

That means --- jokers-----not an insult!

For his misrule which no regime can rival

For spending the whole of his second term to fight publicly with his deputy only to realise at the 11th hour that the day is about breaking and now looking for third term to do what he would have used his second term to do. I'll also remember him as one whose govt organised the worst election in Nigerian history if not the worst in the world.

Nothing good so far! I am so disappointed!

He was not a hypocrite

What you see is what you get

you either hate him or love him.

McKren:

He was not a hypocrite

What you see is what you get

you either hate him or love him.

Then he should have let the EFCC probe him and his "kamkpe" poilitics as sole Minister of Pertroleum for over 5 years. No audits, not accounts nothing! And he was probing others? Please tell us another joke!

This one is not so funny!

McKren:

He was not a hypocrite

Barefaced lie, that. How do we classify the selective war on corruption? Its hypocrisy of the highest magnitude.

Plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!

McKren:

He was not a hypocrite

What you see is what you get

you either hate him or love him.

I must confess a certain amount of ambivalence in my personal assessment of him - I admire his courage, his fluid mastery of Machiavellian politics. I guess that makes me a hypocrite in your warped lexicon, but it also makes you delusional (and incorrect on all counts)

ziddy:

Barefaced lie, that. How do we classify the selective war on corruption? Its hypocrisy of the highest magnitude.

The debate about whether war against corruption is selective under OBJ is simply invalid because no one has been able to tell us what was the criteria for selection. We clearly saw that both friends and enemies of OBJ (PDP or Non-PDP members) were guest of EFCC which nullifies that argument. If you are telling me because EFCC did not prosecute everybody we consider corrupt then may be you will have to tell us what investigative agency of the world has been able to prosecute everybody they are trailing.


Under OBJ regime we did not witness the DPP going to court defending those he is meant to prosecute.

We did not witness a customised court verdict designed to give a criminal 24hrs freedom

We did not witness the President lobbying media moguls just to tilt media reports in certain way

We did not witness a President claiming to be a servant leader and announcing the that the days of sharing National cake are over while spending more time defending those who have embezzled national cake (God knows how they hope to discourage the Present Governors from embezzling the National cake)


Even Jolly Nwame that was literarily confessing has now decided to halt his trial claiming that the Abuja high court has no jurisdiction to hear his case but can only have his case heard in Taraba. Reason is not far fetched: that will simply be a window of opportunity to change his defence and find ways to esploit due process to pervert the cause of jusice in President Yaradua's Nigeria.


OBJ is hated becuase he simply cared less what folks thought about him, he simply cared more in doing what he thought was right.

ziddy:

I must confess a certain amount of ambivalence in my personal assessment of him - I admire his courage, his fluid mastery of Machiavellian politics. I guess that makes me a hypocrite in your warped lexicon, but it also makes you delusional (and incorrect on all counts)

No comment

Time will tell who was living in dellusion.

McKren:

No comment

Time will tell who was living in dellusion.

The bad news for you is that-only the present counts.  We are not going to be alive to know what your "Time" will have to tell us! The good news is that---history is judging us now! The whole world does not wait for time to tell us what we already know.