My brief analysis incorporates God which automatically invalidates any Atheist view on the matter whilst not making said view unwelcome.

The Devil also known as Lucifer, Satan, Abbadon, Little Horn, Shaitan, Mefistofeles, Asmodues, Belial, Beelzebub, Apollyon, Adramelech, Baalberith, Behemoth, Beherit, Bile, Chemosh, Demogorgon, Diabolus, Emmao, Gorgo-dim,  Melek Taus, Milcom, Moloch, Nergal , Nihash, Samnu.

Lets analyse briefly what history we know and share of the Devil(most religions). Apparently once a powerful "Prince" ranked Angel. Only equalled in rank by Uriel,Saraquel,Remiel, Michael,Raphael,Gabriel,Raguel. Who then rebelled was exiled and has forever since been the bane of all humanity.Every race and religion has a symbolism of the Devil being the antithesis of all things good and holy. All of history's evils are ascribed to the Devil directly,indirectly and vicariously. All of man's crimes are in one form or the other attributed to the character of the Devil as the root cause.

Religious books tell us that if not for this horrible entity called the Devil,the World would be a paradise with no pain,suffering or crimes. When did you first hear of the Devil,who told you and what is your understanding of this character??

Now lets look at the concept of God as the antithesis of all things evil and unholy. History postulates God to be all loving,good,caring and generally has all our best interests in mind. When good happens God is said to be at the root cause of it.

Now do you think your appreciation of a God figure would be diminished without the opposite figure of a Devil? Without your believe in the figure of a Devil what would you be praying to God for?? How effective do you think the institution of religion would be, without the figure of a Devil from whom all run and are saved by their beliefs??

Overflogged questions include why did God not destroy,imprison,seclude the Devil?? Why indeed!! Quite possibly the Devil could be God's greatest instrument. The Devil might be playing the most important role for God. The Devil or the fear of the Devil may be the greatest catalyst in moderating the behaviour of religious believers.

It might be possible that God actually needs the Devil,it might also be possible that the Devil may be God's greatest servant!! Think about it very carefully. If you are subscribed to a faith then you must believe in the Devil,knowledge and despise of this character molds to a great degree your practise of your faith. My piece does not castigate nor exonerate the Devil,it is a simple question of do you really understand the Devil and the purpose of the Devil in your life?  More importantly what is your own view of this character and the reason for the existence of the Devil in the World,afterall God almighty could so easily have caused the Devil not to exist so why does the Devil exist?

Krucifax:

The Devil also known as Lucifer, Satan, Abbadon, Little Horn, Shaitan, Mefistofeles, Asmodues, Belial, Beelzebub, Apollyon, Adramelech, Baalberith, Behemoth, Beherit, Bile, Chemosh, Demogorgon, Diabolus, Emmao, Gorgo-dim,  Melek Taus, Milcom, Moloch, Nergal , Nihash, Samnu.

You didn't add "Èsù and Ekwensu"

Now do you think your appreciation of a God figure would be diminished without the opposite figure of a Devil? Without your believe in the figure of a Devil what would you be praying to God for?? How effective do you think the institution of religion would be, without the figure of a Devil from whom all run and are saved by their beliefs??

If your idea is that good complement evil to have balance in life, it's a wrong concept. I've heard people say . Life will be boring. It's human ideology.

Overflogged questions include why did God not destroy,imprison,seclude the Devil?? Why indeed!!

God has principles of justice. There is due process, so that he would be just. When a man is accused , he has to be judged before sentence is carried out. There is an appointed time for Satan to be locked up, there's an appointed time for Satan to be damned . It's one of the reason for mans existence . Man will judge the angels.

1 Corinthians 6:3
. . .Don't you know that we will judge angels?

Quite possibly the Devil could be God's greatest instrument. The Devil might be playing the most important role for God.

Far from it. Even by his name . Satan he resist everything God.

The Devil or the fear of the Devil may be the greatest catalyst in moderating the behaviour of religious believers.

Christians have authority over the devil and they have no reason to fear him except through ignorance. That's why Jesus came .

1 John 3:8
. . . For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

It might be possible that God actually needs the Devil,it might also be possible that the Devil may be God's greatest servant!!

. . INDEED! . . .

Krucifax:

My brief analysis incorporates God which automatically invalidates any Atheist view on the matter whilst not making said view unwelcome.

The Devil also known as Lucifer, Satan, Abbadon, Little Horn, Shaitan, Mefistofeles, Asmodues, Belial, Beelzebub, Apollyon, Adramelech, Baalberith, Behemoth, Beherit, Bile, Chemosh, Demogorgon, Diabolus, Emmao, Gorgo-dim,  Melek Taus, Milcom, Moloch, Nergal , Nihash, Samnu.

Lets analyse briefly what history we know and share of the Devil(most religions). Apparently once a powerful "Prince" ranked Angel. Only equalled in rank by Uriel,Saraquel,Remiel, Michael,Raphael,Gabriel,Raguel. Who then rebelled was exiled and has forever since been the bane of all humanity.Every race and religion has a symbolism of the Devil being the antithesis of all things good and holy. All of history's evils are ascribed to the Devil directly,indirectly and vicariously. All of man's crimes are in one form or the other attributed to the character of the Devil as the root cause.

Religious books tell us that if not for this horrible entity called the Devil,the World would be a paradise with no pain,suffering or crimes. When did you first hear of the Devil,who told you and what is your understanding of this character??

Now lets look at the concept of God as the antithesis of all things evil and unholy. History postulates God to be all loving,good,caring and generally has all our best interests in mind. When good happens God is said to be at the root cause of it.

Now do you think your appreciation of a God figure would be diminished without the opposite figure of a Devil? Without your believe in the figure of a Devil what would you be praying to God for?? How effective do you think the institution of religion would be, without the figure of a Devil from whom all run and are saved by their beliefs??

Overflogged questions include why did God not destroy,imprison,seclude the Devil?? Why indeed!! Quite possibly the Devil could be God's greatest instrument. The Devil might be playing the most important role for God. The Devil or the fear of the Devil may be the greatest catalyst in moderating the behaviour of religious believers.

It might be possible that God actually needs the Devil,it might also be possible that the Devil may be God's greatest servant!! Think about it very carefully. If you are subscribed to a faith then you must believe in the Devil,knowledge and despise of this character molds to a great degree your practise of your faith. My piece does not castigate nor exonerate the Devil,it is a simple question of do you really understand the Devil and the purpose of the Devil in your life?  More importantly what is your own view of this character and the reason for the existence of the Devil in the World,afterall God almighty could so easily have caused the Devil not to exist so why does the Devil exist?

Hope u are not an agent of the devil, even your name sounds like Lucifer. How could u suggest the devil is a servant of God or God's instrument? God does not need the devil to be God, He was already God even before the devil rebelled and He will always be God even after the devil is cast into the lake of fire.
Are u sure u are not a member of the church of satan and trying to subtly lure people into your ways just like the devil does.

Repent and accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour before it is too late, nobody knows when he'll be called.

JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY AND HE LOVES YOU!

@ Joagbaje you failed to understand the central theme of the piece. I did state thus "My piece does not castigate nor exonerate the Devil,it is a simple question of do you really understand the Devil and the purpose of the Devil in your life?"

It's ok to quote verses of the people in reference but you have not outlined your analysis on the subject and it's relevance in the context of humanity.

@ FXKing2012 you are a funny person,but the simple answer to your question is NO. I'm no agent of any sort,just a person like you who espouses critical thinking! 

The subject matter was identifying the role of the Devil and he's relevance in the greater scheme of things. So an actual answer of what your thoughts are wouldn't do any harm.

Rightly said.
Religion needs the devil. How would you appreciate good without bad, how would you appreciate light without darkness. How would you appreciate an imaginary good god without an  also imaginary adversary?

In every religion , the eternal battle between good and evil, light and darkness has to be reperensted in religious lore.
It is worthy of note that the names you listed above were the supreme dieties of rival nations of ancient Isreal such as Babylon, Philistine, Canaan and Egypt, Assyria etc, Its very common and indeed very human for the dieties of conquered or rival nations to be relegated to the status of devil.

If we are to take christian religious lore at face value, we should remember that the winner always writes the story.-His-Story. The scriptures, old and new testament, especially the the garden of eden narrative, according to my understanding , shows that the evil ones, irrespective of what name we have been calling them,  have been running show.
There have been occasional attempts of the  good god(s)  to recapture his  lost domain, but have always been thwarted by sabotage and the overwhelming power and influence of the evil ones.

1

2

@Krucifax, I find the topic insulting to my God and totally out of place. Are u telling me good was not appreciated before the fall of Lucifer? Again, God has always been God and has always been worshiped before the fall of Lucifer, and He will always be God and be worshiped even after Lucifer is long gone.
God does not need satan to be God; He does not need satan to achieve whateve it is He want to achieve.

GBAM!

I think the Devil comes to represent values which Christianity despise, such as freedom/freewill, self definition and disobedience to authority. Christianity on the other hand seeks for total and unquestioned submission to authority (in form God). The individual vs society. Morality is subjective to both parties.

Hi Krucifax, this is one of the most intelligent discussions I've come across here (no offense intended). I really admire your objective view of the issue. It should be apparent to any thinking person that everything is subject to the law of polarities. Nothing is ever one sided in this world of ours and thus, the necessity of evil. Yeah, it may sound corny and overstated, but seriously, life would suck indeed if there were no challenges, the so called 'evil'.

We hear everyday of the devil being the source of evil but on a deeper analysis, we understand God to be the source of all there is, right? For if the devil could create, that would make him/her ( is the devil male or female?) on same par with God, right? But from all we know, and as our pastors tell us, the devil is a created being and cannot be on same level with God,  So, that would mean that God as the sole uncreated source of all things is also, directly or indirectly, the source of all evil, for how can evil exist when God is the only source of all there is? Infect, how can anything come to be if not from the Creator?

@ trentmoller, you have my applause. An articulate analysis which i will paraphrase with your permission.

Since God is the Creator and the Sole source of all things Good and Bad,how is evil not of God's making and how is the Devil not God's tool? The simple answer is that they all are,however they all serve a greater purpose,which is apparently for the greater good of all in the end!!

Behemoth and Leviathan are princes of Hell...

Satan is just part of the whole 'Jigsaw' puzzle...Im quite taken aback when people shout,curse and want the devil dead but never ponder his existence in the first..The bible even shows a mutual between God and the devil and one begins to wonder...

Eshu is not the same as satan, pastor ignorant. Get your facts right before mouthing out your ignorance.

Joagbaje:

You didn't add "Èsù and Ekwensu"

the Devil who we know as KAL in Eckankar is an agent of God and is working for God. there is no conflict between kal and God. Its work is to ensure that no soul that is still impure enters into the pure spiritual heaven. this It does by dishing out temptations to souls those who pass move to the next level and those who fail continue resiting. the lower worlds including earth are schools for souls and the Devil is the headmaster.
do an inner enquiry and ask God directly if Devil is working for It or not. the experience you will have will amaze you.

More importantly what is your own view of this character and the reason for the existence of the Devil in the World, afterall God almighty could so easily have caused the Devil not to exist so why does the Devil exist?

Because the Christian God is a SADIST!
The Devil is purely a Christian concept. . . created for the sole purpose of shifting the 'goal posts' of their God's pathetic and dismal failures to explain his imperfection AND GROSS OMNI-IMPOTENCE, especially after we are made to believe that the world was created 'good'. . .with a 'but. . .lucifer took over' clause!

The concept of the "Devil" makes the incredibly DAFT Christians believe some other than GOD is responsible for their guilt, shame, suffering and moral depravity!

Ha! While the SADIST OF A GOD laughs his azzze off as the christians have their dense, spiritual azzzes whooped to kingdom come!

I lovvvit!

Callotti:

Because the Christian God is a SADIST!
The Devil is purely a Christian concept. . . created for the sole purpose of shifting the 'goal posts' of their God's imperfection. The concept of the "Devil" makes the incredibly DAFT Christians believe some other than GOD is responsible for their guilt, shame, suffering and moral depravity!

Ha! While the SADIST OF A GOD laughs his azzze off as the christians have their dense, spiritual azzzes whooped to kingdom come!

I lovvvit!

Arrrgh. . . Blasphemy in the highest order!
May the good lord forgive you and have mercy on you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNn-Vc-cCPo&feature=fvwrel


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoZUiOFhE0k&feature=related

cantell:
Arrrgh. . . Blasphemy in the highest order!
May the good lord forgive you and have mercy on you.

You? Calling on God?
What God? The God of Christian Sadists like you?
Abusive and devoid of simple courtesy?
Mu he he he he he he he
If you truly worshipped your dane God, you would have comported your tribalistic, BIGOT of a self properly on and off NL.
Get thee behind thyself!
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh!!!

^^Me tribalistic?
You must be high on cheap crack.

cantell: ^^Me tribalistic?
You must be high on cheap crack.

Sure!
It takes a crack head to spot another
Please, ease on down the road. . .
Next moniker please!

^^Next moniker ke?
Was hoping to see the incomprehensible jargons that usually comes wit ur username, but i guess you've added lil sense to that empty brain of yours. Kudos biscuit head!

the concept differs in islam
angels are created by God from light and they have absolute obedience to Gods orders(without free choice). Shaitan is created from fire and has freedom of choice so he was/is not an angel. Jins are created from smoke of fire with freedom of choice. when God created man from sand with free choice and ranked him above them all, shaitan kicked against it claiming he is better than man in all ramification. he can only do that cos he is created with free choice. this being disobedience to God, he was sent down from heaven. he agreed but asked God to spare his life and that he will make all effort to mislead man against Gods will for man. Then God gave him respite nd made it known that shaitan and those who heed to shaitans ways as against Gods will be punished.
for those who obey Gods will, satan do not have power over them.
satan makes man enemy of man. decieves man to commit crime of all sorts nd to disobey God. everything that happens to man is with Gods knowledge and it is a test to identify the righteous. an example: the child born into the rich home and the other in the poor home one should ask if God is being fair to the later but both comes with its challenges nd different opportunities. The knowledge of God cannot be comprehended. Good and bad are by him to keep a balance and to test man for which of them is best in deed. Satan can influence the poor guy to steal from the rich one-poverty is a test for d poor guy and stealing from the rich is a test for d rich-what will be his reaction. Satan can influence our thinking and play tricks on us but everything good or bad that happens to man is by God and both are to test for those who are best in deed.
I just shared an islamic perspective.

I think the Devil provides a reason for God to be relevant.

Islam being a copycat, adopted the dualism.

cantell: ^^Next moniker ke?
Was hoping to see the incomprehensible jargons that usually comes wit ur username, but i guess you've added lil sense to that empty brain of yours. Kudos biscuit head!

Please, it is not by force to read or reply my posts.
You are boring. . .You only show up to derail posts.
I most certainly do not need attention from a she-MALU like you.
Crawl back to your pit-latrine and eat some more feces.
It looks like you are starved of some affection around NL.
Happy Monday coming up.
I don't see you. . .you don't see me.

Kay 17: I think the Devil provides a reason for God to be relevant.

Islam being a copycat, adopted the dualism.

@Kay 17. if islam claims believe of past prophets(noah, ...abraham, moses..etc) and that the ways of God does not change. do you expect a different thing. it has a reaffirmation of the truth of the past before it so if you say that is copy, u choose to see it so

Callotti:

You? Calling on God?
What God? The God of Christian Sadists like you?
Abusive and devoid of simple courtesy?
Mu he he he he he he he
If you truly worshipped your dane God, you would have comported your tribalistic, BIGOT of a self properly on and off NL.
Get thee behind thyself!
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh!!!

well, if some one says he represents God, it will not be out of place to lead by example

Callotti:

You? Calling on God?
What God? The God of Christian Sadists like you?
Abusive and devoid of simple courtesy?
Mu he he he he he he he
If you truly worshipped your dane God, you would have comported your tribalistic, BIGOT of a self properly on and off NL.

you with God!

Do you think you have all the facts about the bible?

Dont you think you are missing somethings some how?

Well, it is not a bad idea to be asking questions.

[quote author=ghazzal]
@Kay 17. if islam claims believe of past prophets(noah, ...abraham, moses..etc) and that the ways of God does not change. do you expect a different thing. it has a reaffirmation of the truth of the past before it so if you say that is copy, u choose to see it so[/quote

The irony of islam is that it approves and validates the teachings of Christianity as the Word of God, and as the Word of God is, incorruptible and complete. By denying the necessary implication invalidating Islam. Islam can't complement a complete doctrine, neither can the word of God be frustrated and corrupted.

Callotti:

Please, it is not by force to read or reply my posts.
You are boring. . .You only show up to derail posts.
I most certainly do not need attention from a she-MALU like you.
Crawl back to your pit-latrine and eat some more feces.
It looks like you are starved of some affection around NL.
Happy Monday coming up.
I don't see you. . .you don't see me.

Taking on your heels already emptyhead?
You post crap and you expect to be left alone?
Which delusional world are you living in? Mars?
Fucking trash-ho!

truthislight:
well, if some one says he represents God, it will not be out of place to lead by example

you with God!

Do you think you have all the facts about the bible?

Dont you think you are missing somethings some how?

Well, it is not a bad idea to be asking questions.

She's a dead again christian like acidosis illustrated in his thread.
She's trying so hard to be an atheist but it doesn't really work that way.
Doesn't fit the profile of an atheist. She's jonesing.

ghazzal: the concept differs in islam
angels are created by God from light and they have absolute obedience to Gods orders(without free choice). Shaitan is created from fire and has freedom of choice so he was/is not an angel. Jins are created from smoke of fire with freedom of choice. when God created man from sand with free choice and ranked him above them all, shaitan kicked against it claiming he is better than man in all ramification. he can only do that cos he is created with free choice. this being disobedience to God, he was sent down from heaven. he agreed but asked God to spare his life and that he will make all effort to mislead man against Gods will for man. Then God gave him respite nd made it known that shaitan and those who heed to shaitans ways as against Gods will be punished.
for those who obey Gods will, satan do not have power over them.
satan makes man enemy of man. decieves man to commit crime of all sorts nd to disobey God. everything that happens to man is with Gods knowledge and it is a test to identify the righteous. an example: the child born into the rich home and the other in the poor home one should ask if God is being fair to the later but both comes with its challenges nd different opportunities. The knowledge of God cannot be comprehended. Good and bad are by him to keep a balance and to test man for which of them is best in deed. Satan can influence the poor guy to steal from the rich one-poverty is a test for d poor guy and stealing from the rich is a test for d rich-what will be his reaction. Satan can influence our thinking and play tricks on us but everything good or bad that happens to man is by God and both are to test for those who are best in deed.
I just shared an islamic perspective.

Another copied folks lore