This is a question that needs serious pondering,
I have always asked and will continue to ask:::what kind of body does Jesus have in heaven or what is he
A human with flesh and bone or a spirit?
Many say because Jesus showed his apostles d nail imprints on his hands and feet and also because they felt him therefore he ascended to heaven as a human,while others according to 1corinthians 15:45$50 says Jesus is a life giving spirit because flesh and blood(including bone) cannot reside in heaven,
And if Jesus has d same nature as his Father and also the other angels then is Jesus still a human in heaven or a spirit??
Answers please,

Maybe not well put but i get the drift. It is also one question that unhinges the concept of inspired revelation in the writing of Holy Books. I think the 10 Commandments have shown that God does not make mistakes statement that cause misunderstanding or misinterpretation. Man inspired can write real funky stuff that will confused generations of readers centuries after

If Heaven is a Spirit place, how come we have humans in this imperfect body living there ? what gives

[size=16pt]Well according to some seasoned Christian scholars on this forum, Jesus (God) lives in heaven with a physical human body. [/size]

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@deepsight, those scholars will indirectly be implying that Jesus is still made lower than the angels even after his ascension to heaven,
That 1corinthians 15 realy just tells us who and what Jesus was b4 cmin to d earth, let some1. Explain what heavenly and earthly body is,
I know all persons living in heaven are spirit persons, both Yahweh, and all the angels, Jesus nko?

He has a glorified body. No blood.

1 Corinthians 15:44
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

@joagbagbe, define glorified body,
Is he a spirit or not?,
No blood but still with flesh abi
But he could pass thru thick wall,disappear and appear to his apostles,
Is Jesus a spirit or still flesh in heaven with the holes in his hands,
If Jesus is flesh in heaven then I doubt if he is in heaven @ all,
Because there is a heavenly body(the one Jesus had b4 he came to d earth,the one the angels have and also Yahweh) and there is earthly body( the one we all have,covered with flesh),
It is either we choose 1 and leave the other,
Glorified or whichever way it is put
Is Jesus a spirit now in heaven or still strolling with his pierced flesh he showed his apostles b4 ascending?
If Jesus is human I bet u we will still be able to see him,

He has a perfect body of flesh and bone without blood.

considering heaven is on earth and he will rule the earth righteously  from jerusalem, he will have the same body as you and i. scripture says when he comes, he will show us his wounds inflicted by the roman authorities.

But what about His father God,what type of body does he have?

stepo707:

But what about His father God,what type of body does he have?

no body. the earth is his footstool while the heavens is where he resides. all spirit

and so people dont think i am contradicting myself, heaven means 'perfection' 'bliss' 'utopia' 'the skies' 'a blissful dimension'. so yes God resides in heaven and Jesus will bring heaven on earth after he conquers and destroys babylon (scriptures says even the trees will scream for joy when babylon is conquered because their will be no more deforestation for capitalism)

heaven is not a destination. heaven is a condition

@buzugee, so ur sayin heaven will be brought literally here on earth
What was Jesus b4 comin to d earth?
And what body will people who will be ressurected to heaven have
Remember flesh cannot inherit d kingdom of d heavens,
I could remember also that d angels who came to d earth to have sex with d daughters of men in noahs day also had flesh and bone, didn't they
Please kindly explain 1 corinthians 15:45-50
45 So the first man, Adam, as scripture says, became a living soul; and the last Adam has become a life-giving spirit.
46 But first came the natural body, not the spiritual one; that came only afterwards.
47 The first man, being made of earth, is earthly by nature; the second man is from heaven.
48 The earthly man is the pattern for earthly people, the heavenly man for heavenly ones.
49 And as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so we shall bear the likeness of the heavenly one.
50 What I am saying, brothers, is that mere human nature cannot inherit the kingdom of God: what is perishable cannot inherit what is imperishable.

Those going to heaven will be like the one who came from heaven, b4 Jesus came to d earth he was a spirit and so is he now and all those who will reside in heaven,
The 1 thing that Jesus shared with humans was flesh and blood(flesh),
And if his Father is a spirit and so also d angels how come is Jesus of a different essence?
Read john 17:1-5,
Jesus was indeed restored to glory he had b4 he came to d earth,
If Jesus is with flesh in heaven then he is no way greater than d angels,

numo86:

@buzugee, so ur sayin heaven will be brought literally here on earth
What was Jesus b4 comin to d earth?
And what body will people who will be ressurected to heaven have
Remember flesh cannot inherit d kingdom of d heavens,
I could remember also that d angels who came to d earth to Be Intimate with d daughters of men in noahs day also had flesh and bone, didn't they
Please kindly explain 1 corinthians 15:45-50
45 So the first man, Adam, as scripture says, became a living soul; and the last Adam has become a life-giving spirit.
46 But first came the natural body, not the spiritual one; that came only afterwards.
47 The first man, being made of earth, is earthly by nature; the second man is from heaven.
48 The earthly man is the pattern for earthly people, the heavenly man for heavenly ones.
49 And as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so we shall bear the likeness of the heavenly one.
50 What I am saying, brothers, is that mere human nature cannot inherit the kingdom of God: what is perishable cannot inherit what is imperishable.

Those going to heaven will be like the one who came from heaven, b4 Jesus came to d earth he was a spirit and so is he now and all those who will reside in heaven,
The 1 thing that Jesus shared with humans was flesh and blood(flesh),
And if his Father is a spirit and so also d angels how come is Jesus of a different essence?
Read john 17:1-5,
Jesus was indeed restored to glory he had b4 he came to d earth,
If Jesus is with flesh in heaven then he is no way greater than d angels,

Yes Sir, it (HEAVEN) will be done on earth as it is in heaven MATTHEW 6 VS 10

Before coming to the earth, Jesus was a spirit, as we all are. we are all spiritual beings having an earthly experience. earth is the inhabitant of the spirit that has put on a body suit. those without body suits exist in another dimension which is blissful (hence why it is called heaven)

those who are resurrected to heaven (earth when christ has brought his kingdom here ) will put on their body suit again and be human beings again with the same body as you and i.

when it says flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven, it means your worldly desires will be extinguished. all that i want to sleep with that big yansh woman, or i want that benzo, i want that rolex wrist watch, i want that mansion, - all that will be killed off. your fleshly desires will not exist anymore because you will have a renewal of spirit. your body will fall in line with your renewed spirit

no angels came to earth to be intimate with the daughters of men. it says the sons of God on earth were intimate with the daughters of man. what that means is that the sons of the israelites were sleeping with the daughters of the heathens.

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1 corinthians 15 45--means that when adam put on that body suit, the spirit within that body suit is what brings him to life.

1 corinthians 15 46-means when a woman gets pregnant, she starts forming a physical body in her. after the physical is formed, then the spiritual person is inserted into that physical baby to give it life

1 corinthians 15 47- means the first thing formed is out of the earth (the body suit) then next comes inserting the spirit

1 corinthians 15 48- your physical body resembles the dust which it came from (which is why you nourish your body with minerals and vitamins from the dust)-while your spiritual being resembles the spiritual father who gave it (which is why you nourish your spirit with minerals and vitamins from the word of God

1 corinthians 15 49-means you are 2 parts. one part of you looks like the earth and the other part looks like the father in heaven

1 corinthians 15 50 means your fleshly desires cannot inherit the kingdom. your fleshly desires will be killed. you will have a renewal of spirit and your flesh will fall in line with the renewal of your spirit. also your body will be transformed to a point where it does not die after 120 years. you live to about 1000 years and then go rest with the lord and then come back again for another 1000 years etc etc

those going to heaven will be like the one who came from heaven- means those who followed the lords laws statutes and commandments and had faith in the lord will make it through because the patterned their life after christ who came from heaven. no adulterers, murderers, fornicators, adulterers etc will inherit the kingdom

jesus is of a different essence because he is the interceder between man and God and as such he has to be able to come down to earth to talk to the people and be in the spirit world and communicate with the father. the angels and the lord dont communicate with mortals. only Jesus does. he is the link between man and God. when he comes down to earth and transforms hell on earth to heaven on earth, he is going to be part of the army that takes down the europeans in control of the world. scripture says his garments will be covered with blood from chopping edomite (the white rulers of the earth) heads off in bosrah (europe). he will thread on people as if he is in the winepress. his garments will be blood covered. lol. Jesus is a man of war. obviously the controllers of the world will not be willing to give up their power to a black man (cuz they would not know he is the messiah) and thats what will lead to their downfall. their pride and atrocities. scripture says moab (china) and the edomites (white folk) will be threaded on like in the winepress

@buguzee>>>>ur explanation doesnt just count, u know whybecause apostle was talkin about the kind of body one will need to live in heaven,
read the whole verse and see that paul was speaking not in symbolic terms but in physical terms,
if u say flesh mentioned in verse 50 is our sinful desires,then u are invariably saying that jesus too was a sinner, he had d adamic sin in him, because he was flesh and blood just before his death and ascension when on earth,
and can u kindly open just 1 verse from the scriptures to show that we humans are spirit beingsplease just 1 verse,
also u said the sons of God that came to have sex with d daughters of men were normal isrealite men>, i also will disqualifythat statement, those guys were angels, they gave birth to the nephilims,
and what do u have to say about d angel that isacc wrestled withand the angels abraham fed with breaddidnt the have flesh and bone?
please re-read 1corinthians and analyse it well,
and i never knew u were a spirit being, it means the genesis account should be reviewed or edited, because when God created perfect adam he made him fleshly human from dust not a spirit, please ineed ur scriptures

numo86:

@buguzee>>>>ur explanation doesnt just count, u know whybecause apostle was talkin about the kind of body one will need to live in heaven,
read the whole verse and see that paul was speaking not in symbolic terms but in physical terms,
if u say flesh mentioned in verse 50 is our sinful desires,then u are invariably saying that jesus too was a sinner, he had d adamic sin in him, because he was flesh and blood just before his death and ascension when on earth,
and can u kindly open just 1 verse from the scriptures to show that we humans are spirit beingsplease just 1 verse,
also u said the sons of God that came to Be Intimate with d daughters of men were normal isrealite men>, i also will disqualifythat statement, those guys were angels, they gave birth to the nephilims,
and what do u have to say about d angel that isacc wrestled withand the angels abraham fed with breaddidnt the have flesh and bone?
please re-read 1corinthians and analyse it well,
and i never knew u were a spirit being, it means the genesis account should be reviewed or edited, because when God created perfect adam he made him fleshly human from dust not a spirit, please ineed ur scriptures

jesus was not a sinner but he battled with resisting sin (who do you think was the satan who was talking to him nd telling him he will give him all the world etc etc etc ) ? you think some guy named satan walked up to him and start chatting with him ? no thats him battling with the demons that come with having a body suit. only in his case, he overcame all the demons. he had the same body and same desires as you and i. scripture says the son of man came eating and drinking. some (the pharisees and saducees) accused him of being a drunk and a greedy person. see he was human

you know your problem ? you have been bamboozled by the greco roman mythical mystical gumbo added unto the religion called christianity. when it says the sons of God. that refers to the israelites. they were the chosen children of God. and the daughters of man means the heathen nations. and they were sleeping together. no angels was sleeping with no humans. come on man. this is why so many people think christianity is ridiculous. how does a spirit sleep with a human ? or how does a spirit named satan start talking to the messiah ? or how does a woman get pregnant without having se-x ? or how does is there somewhere called hell that people burn in forever or etc etc etc. all greco roman mythologies. read your bible and stop following religion

because he is serving as a mediator so he has to be with flesh in heaven?,
then why stay in heavenof what use is his havin flesh in heaventhat makes d other angels higher than him,
Jesus was made lesser than angels, in what sensebecause he took up flesh to reside with humans, he definitly cant keep that nature in heaven if not it will be of no use,
christ is a life giving SPIRIT, does that phrase not tell you what christ is in heaven
buguzee ur view of d flesh mentioned in 1corinthians is what is realy causin d confusion, ofcus Jesus battled with temptations from d devil,but did he have d inherent sin we humans have?if u insist flesh and blood accordin to ur view are our human fleshly desires and sinful nature then u might as well apply that to jesus because he was in d human nature when on earth,
look @ d whole context and know that paul was strictly talking about body type not in symbolic terms,
he talked about how human body defers from animal body and so on,
then there after he talked about earthly body which Jesus had before his death and also heavenly body which Jesus had in his pre-human existence,
flesh cannot stay in heaven, the heavens are made for spirits, thats why they are higher than us,
that is why when Jesus was made lesser than angels it was all about him taken on flesh and blood,

numo86:

because he is serving as a mediator so he has to be with flesh in heaven?,
then why stay in heavenof what use is his havin flesh in heaventhat makes d other angels higher than him,
Jesus was made lesser than angels, in what sensebecause he took up flesh to reside with humans, he definitly cant keep that nature in heaven if not it will be of no use,
christ is a life giving SPIRIT, does that phrase not tell you what christ is in heaven
buguzee ur view of d flesh mentioned in 1corinthians is what is realy causin d confusion, ofcus Jesus battled with temptations from d devil,but did he have d inherent sin we humans have?if u insist flesh and blood accordin to ur view are our human fleshly desires and sinful nature then u might as well apply that to jesus because he was in d human nature when on earth,
look @ d whole context and know that paul was strictly talking about body type not in symbolic terms,
he talked about how human body defers from animal body and so on,
then there after he talked about earthly body which Jesus had before his death and also heavenly body which Jesus had in his pre-human existence,
flesh cannot stay in heaven, the heavens are made for spirits, thats why they are higher than us,
that is why when Jesus was made lesser than angels it was all about him taken on flesh and blood,

he is not flesh in the heaven he is now. but when he comes to earth to transform it to heaven he will be on earth so he will be in the flesh. ok maybe this is easier for you. anything on earth is physical. earth is for the physical. the skies is for the spirit. the skies can also be called heaven because it is blissful and peaceful. the earth is currently hell because it is chaotic but it can and will become heaven when the messaih returns. gerrit ? so no he is not in the heavenly skies with a body suit on. you only need a body suit on earth.

did christ have the inherent sin we have ? if he didnt why would he be getting tempted by his demons ? he came to show us how to live while resisting sin. if he did not come in a body that was inherently sinful and showing us how to resist it, would that not be ojoro on his part ?    you think the messiah is a hypocrit who came in a body that had no sin, but was pretending that he was resisting sin and showing us how to do the same, when his body all the while was pure, and hence him decieving us. you think the messiah is that cunny and wayo wayo ? of course the body he came with was defaulted to sin just like ours. and he came to show us how to triumph over that body we currently have because of the fall of adam.
all the numerous temptations he had is him battling with sin. even the great apostle paul had a huge battle with sin. king david, king solomon, they all battled with sin. its just the way it is and will be till heaven is restored back to earth

@buguzee, so Jesus made mistakes like we do, right??
Jesus got sick just like we do, right?
Jesus died out of adamic sin just like we do, right?
infact Jesus was a sinner by default Just like we all are, right?
i then wonder why he is called d last adam, the only relationship Jesus had with us humans when he was on earth was his being flesh and blood(physical human bodily),
nothing more,
every human from adam down till today that has walked d surface of d earth is imperfect except Jesus,
Jesus being tempted does not even prove the reason why u say flesh and blood in that 1corinthians deals strictly with our fleshly desires, even angelic sons who are spirits were tempted by satan, so temptation is not d issue,
the issue here is body type, shikena,
he is a life -giving - SPIRIT,

FYI - Jesus Christ was the embodiment of SIN at the moment of his death - representing the Lamb who carried away the SINS of the World he was right there with Lucifer in terms of SIN just FYI - carry on with the bloodless-flesh part - Why bloodless if i might ask.

numo86:

@buguzee, so Jesus made mistakes like we do, right??
Jesus got sick just like we do, right?
Jesus died out of adamic sin just like we do, right?
infact Jesus was a sinner by default Just like we all are, right?
i then wonder why he is called d last adam, the only relationship Jesus had with us humans when he was on earth was his being flesh and blood(physical human bodily),
nothing more,
every human from adam down till today that has walked d surface of d earth is imperfect except Jesus,
Jesus being tempted does not even prove the reason why u say flesh and blood in that 1corinthians deals strictly with our fleshly desires, even angelic sons who are spirits were tempted by satan, so temptation is not d issue,
the issue here is body type, shikena,
he is a life -giving - SPIRIT,

who said jesus made mistakes ? now you are just putting words into my mouth. he triumphed over sin. you need to have a sinful body before you can triumph over sin. i am sure you will agree with that. did he get sick ? no. you get sick because of sin, and since he triumphed over sin he did not get sick.

yes j the body suit jesus had on was set at sin for default hence why he got tempted. but he triumphed over sin

jesus died not out of sin but to fulfill a prophesy by the lord to have him be the scrificial lamb so as to eradicate the sacrificial laws required to erase our sins

jesus was perfect because he triumphed over sin, not because the body he came in was perfect.

yes he is a life giving spirt because when he died, he gave you life. now you dont have to slaughter lambs every time you sin in order to get reconnected to God

YOU SAY THE ISSUE IS BODY TYPE ? OK in the heaven in the skies he has no body-in the heaven that will be created on earth when he returns, he will have an immortal physical body. what kills bodies ? sin. so if he is sinless his body will never die. its immortal.

Boring sha. What on earth do you need the information for? People just go on talking on near meaningless things. Anyways, Jesus left His body on earth.

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Boring sha. What on earth do you need the information for? People just go on talking on near meaningless things. Anyways, Jesus left His body on earth.

U don start - Where is it ? for research/posterity's sake i.e.

For Christians, it is a spirit.
So says the Bible.
That means that Christians are a sect spiritist
Sect, because it is a excision of the Jewish religion; and spiritist because he loves a spirit (though be called holy spirit).
Regards

lagerwhenindoubt:

U don start - Where is it ? for research/posterity's sake i.e.

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Corinthians 15:35-54
New King James Version (NKJV)
A Glorious Body
35 But someone will say, “How are the dead raised up? And with what body do they come?”
36 Foolish one, what you sow is not made alive unless it dies. 37 And what you sow, you do
not sow that body that shall be, but mere grain—perhaps wheat or some other grain.
38 But God gives it a body as He pleases, and to each seed its own body.
39 All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh [ a ] of men, another flesh of
animals, another of fish, and another of birds.
40 There are also celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial is one,
and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, another glory of
the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in
incorruption. 43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is
raised in power. 44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural
body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a
living being.” [ b ] The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual. 47 The
first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second Man is the Lord [ c ] from heaven. 48 As
was the man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; and as is the heavenly Man,
so also are those who are heavenly. 49 And as we have borne the image of the man of dust,
we shall also bear [ d ] the image of the heavenly Man.
Our Final Victory
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor
does corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep,
but we shall all be changed— 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last
trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall
be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on
immortality. 54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put
on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed
up in victory.” [ e ]
Read this again!

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Anyways, Jesus left His body on earth.

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(1) And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus. (Luk 24:3)

(2) But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet. (Luk 24:37-40)

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All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. (1Co 15:39-41)


His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. (Rev 1:14-16)

lagerwhenindoubt:

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There are many ways it could be used for the benefit of the brethren - abeg tell me the location

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