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| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by SNCOQ3(m): 12:57am On Mar 29, 2012 |
Kay 17: You don't seem to have respect for contextual reasoning. When you do, i'll respond to your question. I already know where you're heading but its important you fix those word in their proper sequence because one thing led to another. I am not here to indulge you. |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by SNCOQ3(m): 1:24am On Mar 29, 2012 |
manmustwac: Man created God in his own image to make sense of his surroundings.Which explains why the Hindu Gods look like the indian people who created him, The chinese gods look like chinese who created them. Plus theres over 10'000 gods, Besides anybody who can see REALITY can see theres no god YAHWEH - The One True God is not the god of your imagination but the God of Revelation. The God that can fit into your imagination is a[i] god[/i]; When materialized - an idol. Another name the Jews call YAHWEH is the non-existent God- The God who does not exist in the imagination of man( the world is perceived and interpreted with the mind). YAHWEH can only REVEAL himself to us to be known. And He must come down to our level so that we can understand Him. Jesus Christ is YAHWEH revealed to us. His other name is Emmanuel, meaning "God is with us". Some things in life can never be taken, they can only be given. manmustwac: Man created God in his own image to make sense of his surroundings.Which explains why the Hindu Gods look like the indian people who created him, The chinese gods look like chinese who created them. Plus theres over 10'000 gods, Besides anybody who can see REALITY can see theres no god Have you 'seen' REALITY before? by the way, could you first define reality? |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by SNCOQ3(m): 1:46am On Mar 29, 2012 |
More Christian Scientists and Thinkers (part 5) 1701–1800 (18th century) -------------------------------------- Isaac Newton  (1643–1727)He is regarded as one of the greatest scientists and mathematicians in history. Newton's study of the Bible and of the early Church Fathers were among his greatest passions, though he consistently refused to swear his allegiance to the church. He wrote Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel and the Apocalypse of St. John. -------------------------------------- Gottfried Leibniz (1646–1716) Polymath who worked on determinants, a calculating machine, He was a Lutheran who worked with convert to Catholicism John Frederick, Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg in hopes of a reunification between Catholicism and Lutheranism. He also wrote Vindication of the Justice of God. -------------------------------------- John Wallis (1616–1703)As a mathematician he wrote Arithmetica Infinitorumis, introduced the term Continued fraction, worked on cryptography, helped develop calculus, and is further known for the Wallis product. He also devised a system for teaching the non-speaking deaf. He was also a Calvinist inclined chaplain who was active in theological debate. -------------------------------------- Colin Maclaurin (1698–1746)Proposed to explain Newton's differential calculus using infinite series instead of Newton's fluxions. A Divinity student, he had a Christian institute named for him. -------------------------------------- Stephen Hales (1677–1761) A Copley Medal winning scientist significant to the study of plant physiology. As an inventor designed a type of ventilation system, a means to distill sea-water, ways to preserve meat, etc. In religion he was an Anglican curate who worked with the Society for the Promotion of Christian Knowledge and for a group working to convert black slaves in the West Indies. -------------------------------------- Thomas Bayes (1701–1761) Presbyterian minister who wrote Divine Benevolence, or an Attempt to Prove That the Principal End of the Divine Providence and Government is the Happiness of His Creatures. He is better known for Bayes' theorem and was made a Fellow of the Royal Society in 1742. -------------------------------------- Firmin Abauzit (1679–1767) A physicist and theologian. He translated the New Testament into French and corrected an error in Newton's Principia. -------------------------------------- Emanuel Swedenborg (1688–1772) His writing is the basis of Swedenborgianism and several of his theological works contained some science hypotheses, most notably the Nebular hypothesis for the origin of the Solar System. -------------------------------------- Carolus Linnaeus (1707–1778) He is known as the "father of modern taxonomy" and also made contributions to ecology. Natural theology and the Bible were important to his Systema Naturae and Systema Vegetabilium. -------------------------------------- Leonhard Euler (1707–1783) A significant mathematician and physicist, see List of topics named after Leonhard Euler. He wrote Defense of the Divine Revelation against the Objections of the Freethinkers and is also commemorated by the Lutheran Church on their Calendar of Saints on May 24. -------------------------------------- Maria Gaetana Agnesi (1718–1799) Mathematician appointed to a position by Pope Benedict XIV. After her father died she devoted her life to religious studies, charity, and ultimately became a nun. -------------------------------------- 1 Like |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by SNCOQ3(m): 2:04am On Mar 29, 2012 |
More Christian Scientists and Thinkers (part 6) 1601–1700 (17th century) ------------------------------------------- Bartholomaeus Pitiscus (1561–1613) He may have introduced the word trigonometry into English and French. He was also a Calvinist theologian who acted as court preacher at the town then called Breslau, hence the image of their town square. ------------------------------------------- John Napier (1550–1617) Scottish mathematician known for inventing logarithms, Napier's bones, and being the popularizer of the use of decimals. He also was a staunch Protestant who wrote on the Book of Revelation. ------------------------------------------- Johannes Kepler (1571–1630)His model of the cosmos based on nesting Platonic solids was explicitly driven by religious ideas; his later and most famous scientific contribution, the Kepler's laws of planetary motion, was based on empirical data that he obtained from Tycho Brahe's meticulous astronomical observations, after Tycho died of mercury poisoning. He had wanted to be a theologian at one time and his Harmonice Mundi discusses Christ at points. ------------------------------------------- Galileo Galilei (1564–1642)Scientist who had many problems with the Inquisition for defending heliocentrism in the convoluted period brought about by the Reformation and Counter-Reformation. In regard to Scripture, he took Augustine's position: not to take every passage too literally, particularly when the scripture in question is a book of poetry and songs, not a book of instructions or history. ------------------------------------------- Laurentius Gothus (1565–1646) A professor of astronomy and Archbishop of Uppsala. He wrote on astronomy and theology. ------------------------------------------- Marin Mersenne (1588–1648. ) For four years he devoted himself to theology writing Quaestiones celeberrimae in Genesim (1623) and L'Impieté des déistes (1624). These were theological essays against atheism and deism. He is more remembered for the work he did corresponding with mathematicians and concerning Mersenne primes. ------------------------------------------- René Descartes (1596–1650)He was a key thinker of the Scientific Revolution. He is also honoured by having the Cartesian coordinate system used in plane geometry and algebra named after him. He did important work on invariants and geometry. His Meditations on First Philosophy partially concerns theology and he was devoted to reconciling his ideas with the dogmas of Catholic Faith to which he was loyal. ------------------------------------------- Pierre Gassendi (1592–1655) Catholic priest who tried to reconcile Atomism with Christianity. He also published the first work on the Transit of Mercury and corrected the geographical coordinates of the Mediterranean Sea. ------------------------------------------- Anton Maria of Rheita (1597–1660) Capuchin astronomer. He dedicated one of his astronomy books to Jesus Christ, a "theo-astronomy" work was dedicated to the Blessed Virgin Mary, and he wondered if beings on other planets were "cursed by original sin like humans are." ------------------------------------------- Blaise Pascal (1623–1662)Jansenist thinker; well known for Pascal's law (physics), Pascal's theorem (math), and Pascal's Wager (theology) ------------------------------------------- Isaac Barrow (1630–1677) English divine, scientist, and mathematician. He wrote Expositions of the Creed, The Lord's Prayer, Decalogue, and Sacraments and Lectiones Opticae et Geometricae. ------------------------------------------- Juan Lobkowitz (1606–1682) Cistercian monk who did work on Combinatorics and published astronomy tables at age 10. He also did works of theology and sermons. ------------------------------------------- Nicolas Steno (1638–1686) Lutheran convert to Catholicism, his beatification in that faith occurred in 1987. As a scientist he is considered a pioneer in both anatomy and geology, but largely abandoned science after his religious conversion. ------------------------------------------- Seth Ward (1617–1689) Anglican Bishop of Salisbury and Savilian Chair of Astronomy from 1649–1661. He wrote Ismaelis Bullialdi astro-nomiae philolaicae fundamenta inquisitio brevis and Astronomia geometrica. He also had a theological/philosophical dispute with Thomas Hobbes and as a bishop was severe toward nonconformists. ------------------------------------------- Robert Boyle (1627–1691)Scientist and theologian who argued that the study of science could improve glorification of God. ------------------------------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science more to come.... 1 Like |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by SNCOQ3(m): 2:19am On Mar 29, 2012 |
More Christian Scientists and Thinkers (part 7) 1401–1600 (15th and 16th centuries) ---------------------------------------- Nicholas of Cusa (1401–1464) Catholic cardinal and theologian who made contributions to the field of mathematics by developing the concepts of the infinitesimal and of relative motion. His philosophical speculations also anticipated Copernicus’ heliocentric world-view. ---------------------------------------- Otto Brunfels (1488–1534) A theologian and botanist from Mainz, Germany. His Catalogi virorum illustrium is considered to be the first book on the history of evangelical sects that had broken away from the Catholic Church. In botany his Herbarum vivae icones helped earn him acclaim as one of the "fathers of botany". ---------------------------------------- Nicolaus Copernicus (1473–1543) Catholic canon who introduced a heliocentric world view. In 1616, in connection with the Galileo affair, this work was forbidden by the Church "until corrected". Nine sentences representing heliocentricism as certain had to be either omitted or changed. This done, the reading of the book was allowed.[31] Only in 1835 the original uncensored version was dropped from the Index of Prohibited Books. ---------------------------------------- Michael Servetus (1511–1553) Nontrinitarian who was condemned and imprisoned by Catholics before being burned at the stake by Calvinists in Protestant-run Geneva. In science wrote on astronomy and his theological work "Christianismi Restitutio" contained the first European description of the function of pulmonary circulation. ---------------------------------------- Michael Stifel (c.1486–1567) Augustinian monk and mathematician who became an early supporter of Martin Luther. His Arithmetica integra (pictured) contained important innovations in mathematical notation and a table of integers and powers of 2 that some have considered to be an early version of a logarithmic table.[34][35] He also wrote on Biblical prophecies. ---------------------------------------- William Turner (c.1508–1568 .) He is sometimes called the "father of English botany" and was also an ornithologist. Religiously he was arrested for preaching in favor of the Reformation. He later became a Dean of Wells Cathedral, pictured, but was expelled for nonconformity. ---------------------------------------- Ignazio Danti (1536–1586) As bishop of Alatri he convoked a diocesan synod to deal with abuses. He was also a mathematician who wrote on Euclid, an astronomer, and a designer of mechanical devices. ---------------------------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science more to come.... |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by SNCOQ3(m): 2:33am On Mar 29, 2012 |
More Christian Scientists and Thinkers (part 8.) 1201–1400 (13th and 14th centuries) ------------------------------------------- Robert Grosseteste (c.1175–1253) Bishop of Lincoln, he was the central character of the English intellectual movement in the first half of the 13th century and is considered the founder of scientific thought in Oxford. He had a great interest in the natural world and wrote texts on the mathematical sciences of optics, astronomy and geometry. He affirmed that experiments should be used in order to verify a theory, testing its consequences. ------------------------------------------- Pope John XXI (c.1215–1277) He wrote the widely used medical text Thesaurus pauperum before becoming Pope. When he took office as pope in 1277, he immediately cracked down on heterodoxy including Averroes works and teachings on Aristotle. ------------------------------------------- Albertus Magnus (c.1193–1280) Patron saint of scientists in Catholicism who may have been the first to isolate arsenic. He wrote that: "Natural science does not consist in ratifying what others have said, but in seeking the causes of phenomena." Yet he rejected elements of Aristotelianism that conflicted with Catholicism and drew on his faith as well as Neo-Platonic ideas to "balance" "troubling" Aristotelian elements. ------------------------------------------- Roger Bacon (c.1214–1294) He was an English philosopher who emphasized empiricism and has been presented as one of the earliest advocates of the modern scientific method. He joined the Franciscan Order around 1240, where he was influenced by Grosseteste. Bacon was responsible for making the concept of "laws of nature" widespread, and contributed in such areas as mechanics, geography and, most of all, optics. It is said that he was imprisoned by the church for many years because of his scientific teachings, although this is disputed ------------------------------------------- Theodoric of Freiberg (c.1250–c.1310) Dominican who is believed to have given the first correct explanation for the rainbow in De iride et radialibus impressionibus or On the Rainbow. In theology he disagreed with Thomas Aquinas on metaphysical positions and tended towards a more Neoplatonic outlook than Aquinas. ------------------------------------------- Thomas Bradwardine (c.1290–1349) He was an English archbishop, often called "the Profound Doctor". He developed studies as one of the Oxford Calculators of Merton College, Oxford University. These studies would lead to important developments in mechanics. ------------------------------------------- William of Ockham (c.1285–c.1350) He was an English Franciscan friar and scholastic philosopher. He is a major figure of medieval thought and was at the center of the major intellectual and political controversies of his time. Commonly known for Occam's razor, the scientific/methodological principle that bears his name, he also produced significant works on logic, physics, and theology. ------------------------------------------- Jean Buridan (c.1300–c.1358. ) Kanonik.png He was a Catholic priest and one of the most influential philosophers of the later Middle Ages. He developed the theory of impetus, which was an important step toward the modern concept of inertia. ------------------------------------------- Nicole Oresme (c.1323–1382) Theologian and bishop of Lisieux, he was one of the early founders and popularizers of modern sciences. One of his many scientific contributions is the discovery of the curvature of light through atmospheric refraction. ------------------------------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science more to come.... |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by Nobody: 2:41am On Mar 29, 2012 |
^^^ Link is enough to pass across the message. Those aren't excuses for the origin of religion and god. You are missing the mark,dude. |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by SNCOQ3(m): 2:41am On Mar 29, 2012 |
More Christian Scientists and Thinkers (part 9) 1001–1200 (11th and 12th centuries) ------------------------------------------------------------ Pope Sylvester II (c.950–1003) Benedictine monk, scientist, teacher, and later Pope; he promoted such knowledge as mathematics and astronomy in Europe. As professor of the cathedral school at Rheims, he raised it to the height of prosperity. He also reintroduced the abacus and armillary sphere to Europe, which had been lost to the continent since the end of the Greco-Roman era. ------------------------------------------------------------ Hermann of Reichenau (1013–1054) Crippled by a paralytic disease from early childhood, he was a Benedictine monk who composed famous Marian antiphons and was beatified. As a scientist, he wrote on topics such as geometry, mathematics, and the astrolabe. ------------------------------------------------------------ Hugh of Saint Victor (c.1096–1141) Influential mystic and philosopher who embraced science as a tool for approaching God. He was master of the monastic school of Saint Victor. His work presents knowledge of reality as redemptive of fallen man; and technology as source of physical relief and able to help reunite man with divine wisdom. "Learn everything," he urged; "later you will see that nothing is superfluous. ------------------------------------------------------------ William of Conches (c.1090–a.1154) Pythagore-chartres.jpg Scholastic philosopher who sought to expand Christian humanism by studying secular works of the classics and fostering empirical science. He held an atomistic explanation of nature, and his hexameron is a notable example of the naturalism that came to characterize later medieval accounts of the six days of creation. He was a leading member of the cathedral school at Chartres. ------------------------------------------------------------ Hildegard of Bingen (1098–1179) Benedictine abbess, writer, composer, philosopher, mystic, visionary, polymath and Germany's first female physician. She conducted and published comprehensive studies of natural science and medicine. Hildegard was well known in her own century as "the female prophet" and is venerated as a Catholic saint. ------------------------------------------------------------ |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by SNCOQ3(m): 2:49am On Mar 29, 2012 |
all4naija: ^^^Thanks. Just one more. all4naija: ^^^Whats the excuse for the origin of atheism again? all4naija: ^^^ Whats the mark? |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by SNCOQ3(m): 2:57am On Mar 29, 2012 |
More Christian Scientists and Thinkers (part 10) 313–1000 (4th–10th centuries) ----------------------------------------------- Hunayn ibn Ishaq (c.809–873) Assyrian Christian physician known for translations of Greek scientific works and as author of "Ten Treatises on Ophthalmology". He also wrote "How to Grasp Religion", which involved the apologetics for his faith. ----------------------------------------------- John Philoponus (c.490–c.570) He was a figure in the Monophysitism minority of Eastern Christianity. His criticism of Aristotelian physics was important to Medieval science. He also theorized about the nature of light and the stars. As a theologian he rejected the Council of Chalcedon and his major Christological work is Arbiter. ----------------------------------------------- Bede, the Venerable (c.672–735) Catholic monk, venerated as a saint and Doctor of the Church. He was an influence for early medieval knowledge of nature. He wrote two works on "Time and its Reckoning." This primarily concerned how to date Easter, but contained a new recognition of the "progress wave-like" nature of tides. ----------------------------------------------- Rabanus Maurus (c.780–856) Benedictine monk and teacher, he later became archbishop of Mainz and is venerated as blessed in the Catholic Church. He wrote a treatise on Computus and the encyclopedic work De universo. His teaching earned him the accolade of Praeceptor Germaniae, or "the teacher of Germany ----------------------------------------------- Leo the Mathematician (c.790–a.869) Archbishop of Thessalonica, he later became the head of the Magnaura School of philosophy in Constantinople, where he taught Aristotelian logic. Leo also composed his own medical encyclopaedia. He has been called a "true Renaissance man" and "the cleverest man in Byzantium in the 9th century". ----------------------------------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science END...for now |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by Aksum: 3:00am On Mar 29, 2012 |
So being a logical human being with enough reason not to believe in fairytales is now abnormal.? Tell me why do you believe in talking snakes, a being sitting somewhere in the heavens watching you (yes even when you take a shower and go toilet). This invisibile being then came down to earth and made a mere mortal pregnant! (Mary) and she gave birth to jesus who is also in a sense God (the name for this being in the clouds). Which means that this being had s*x or impregnated his own mother (temporary mother) while in his invisible state. This being (let's just call him jesus) jesus was then killed (he is a God and all powerful but yeah he can get killed..) And now apparently all our sins are forgiven (yaaay! Celebration *dancing in a circle*) And there's also the fact that many theists (christians/muslims) claim that the world was created in 7 days and the world is about 7000 years old. We found BONES and artifacts that is dated millions upon millions years ago. With science we have also found out that this planet is hundred of years old. Many things in science have exposed religion for that sham that it is, any person with some reason would be able to see that the bible and quran hold not much more than fairytales that should be taken lightly. |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by Nobody: 3:09am On Mar 29, 2012 |
SNCOQ3:  *shaking my head* |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by Kay17: 7:23am On Mar 29, 2012 |
SNCOQ3: Since human sin is an imperfection, why is there imperfection in the first place? |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by bigsean(m): 7:44am On Mar 29, 2012 |
@SNCOQ3, Your findings are very revealing (to an elementary school kid, that is.) My problem with your reasoning (like with every other christian reasoning) is that it always comes back to bite u guys back in the a$$. Ok you post a plethora of christian scientists to prove, what? that Christianity is the right religion cos great fathers of the science world were born into an environment that was already rigged. Ever wondered where the word Algebra [/b]or [b]Algorithm came from? It kind of sounds Arabic [/b]right? Guess what? Its Arabic! But lets challenge your mind a lil my dear friend, How about the numbers u use? Yeap! thats right, its actually called [b]arabic numerals (although, to be historically correct, it is actually "arabic & hindu" numerals). Also, 2/3 of the stars in the universe have arabic names (how come?. . . maybe cos they discovered it? Correct!). I'm not going to inundate this thread with arabic and hindu scholars of old just for the fun of it. My point is, using your reasoning u kept choking down our throats with in all your previous posts: Hindu, Islam (and any other religion on the face of the earth) , is a justified religion/faith. And that is not possible, all can not be right. Science, is a progressive subject (unlike religion, it doesn't claim to know all, ever searching for answers). It is ever inquistive and due to that tot process, inventions, great ideas are born and myths are shattered. However, religion or faith based worship hinders such development, cos it labels some questions as "forbidden" and anything logic cant explain, it attributes it to god. Don't people feel stupid when some things that where attributed to gods in the old (i.e tides, and basically everything else) can be explained precisely to the last minute information thanks to science? |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by asoderock(m): 8:25am On Mar 29, 2012 |
Fhemmmy:And what is the proof? I am not aware of any definite proof beyond reasonable doubt and which could stand to test. Unless if you regard FAITH as a proof. |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by davidugotex(m): 9:15am On Mar 29, 2012 |
[color=#006600][/color] THE FOOL HAS SAID IN HIS HEART, "THERE IS NO GOD." THEY ARE CORRUPT, THEY HAVE DONE ABOMINABLE WORKS, THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD. (Psalm 14:1) |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by ordained(m): 9:53am On Mar 29, 2012 |
Father, forgive them (atheists/agnostics) for they know not what they do. Reveal Yourself to them that they may know You. If they know You as Creator, and as their Father, their lives will be for the better. Remember o Lord God, that Your desire is for all to come to repentance, that none should die in their sins. Do this o Lord for Your glory, that some day these ones will profess You as Lord and Saviour of their souls. Thank You for answering my prayer as You always do, in Jesus Name. AMEN! Praise be to God.. |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by asoderock(m): 10:25am On Mar 29, 2012 |
davidugotex: [color=#006600][/color]Says by who? ....The same bible offcourse. That renders it inconcrete. You need to Prove that the bible itself is truly definitely from God, again I know u will argue that the characters in the bible say it is God that inspired them. At the end of the day all ur reasons are based on hear say from some terrified stone age humans. An unbiased look at the entire bible will immediately tell you that it contains too many contradictions, fairy tales, prejudices, failed prophecies, inconsistencies and a whole lot of imperfections to have come from a supposed perfect 'GOD'. |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by zangality(m): 10:57am On Mar 29, 2012 |
Okija_juju:The most beautiful things i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ this world are unseen... |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by asoebi(m): 11:43am On Mar 29, 2012 |
@op, God created d heavens and d earth, so those planets are part of d heavens d bible referred to in gen 1 vs 1 (niv), so my dear, God exists If what you are saying is correct, then the earth is also part of even itself, cos the earth is also a planet |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by Jack65: 12:24pm On Mar 29, 2012 |
Somebody asked here (several times) that if human sin is an imperfection, why is there imperfection in the first place? Well most of the Christians here avoided it like a plague because that's one of many questions about god they can't answer. It a very logical question indeed, how can something imperfect come out from some thing perfect. Some here said the world is how it is becuase of Sin and Satan...that's like shooting yourself in the foot. Who created this sin and satan ? God himself said that "I created evil" somewhere in Isaiah. Why did God create evil and then punish man for doing evil ? How did sin come to existence ? If God is omnipotent, omniscience and benevolent as the bible claims then why did god creat garden of eden and place a particular tree there just to test adam and eve whom he just created, knowing that they are like children who doesn't even know they were naked. What kind of sick joke is that ? I mean would you leave a six months old baby with a sharp object like razor or knife even after telling the baby not to touch it. Christians use your common senses, start thinking for yourselves and not just repeat what you heard from your pastors. God is imaginary, created by humans in our own image to make sense some of the thing we don't understand. Thanks to science we are begining to understand a lot about our origins and surroundings so God is no longer relevant. There is no single unambigous evidence about the existence of god, its just imaginations. I used to call myself an Atheist, I still am but now I prefer to call myself an Apatheist. Meaning, I don't give a rats ass if God exist or not. I have no use for him, I can take care of myself and I'll never waste my time worshiping and praising a genocidal, egotistical, tribal and hate mongering warlord for doing absolutely nothing. 2 Likes |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by brainpulse: 12:36pm On Mar 29, 2012 |
I laugh so much on some response. The atheist, agonist or whatever they call themselves all and i say all believe that their is God and He exist. But this is the problem, in their mind they wanted a solid prove of His existence, they want to feel Him, talk to him and ask him alot of question and He should talk just like normal humans do.So since they haven't being able to do that, they create a space in the minds until there are proves for their questions. That is why the first question they ask is "prove it". The same people forgot to know that even science and man has found it difficult to prove so many things and they continue to speculate and formulate different theories and hypothesis around it. So until you get them to where God resides and they touch Him and see Him then they "might" believe. But they wont still believe Why? Because they will say this can't be the God, that no God should look like this or that. So that points out to what I say that they Know God exist, but they want proves. So continue to give them prove they will continue to reject your proves because they want more solid and solid and solid proves, that is the reason the bible says " A fool says in his heart there is no GOD" First GOD is not a thing, only things can be proven by physical knowledge. Just like Death can never be proven by any scientist where it comes from who has sees it but all men knows that Death will come someday through any means, Age, disease,accident,murder, suicide etc. But that moment death comes what will be the feeling, where will you go. No explanation just speculation. Secondly the earth that rotates on an axis with all the galaxy and all. How did it come to be. Different scientist up till tomorrow have not proven how the forces that suspend the earth comes to be, just speculations. So the best way is to tell them to prove that they have a brain, if they say that they can prove it tell them you want to see it, they should bring it out, you want to see it, if they call you a fool or you are stupid tell then you have just spoken their language. Because the scientist says we all have brains so have we seen or touch our own brain before? |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by brainpulse: 12:50pm On Mar 29, 2012 |
Secondly God is spiritual, You cant use the physical thing to prove the spiritual. Tell the atheist if they want to know that God exist tell them the only way is to be spiritual. Who has seen or touch His thoughts before, but we believe the thought exist because we think we are thinking our thoughts. So how do you prove your thoughts.Can we see it, touch it or i dont know. |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by Kay17: 12:51pm On Mar 29, 2012 |
^^^ How would you know if there is a tumor in your brain? Pls try to understand what atheists and agnostics think, not assuming within ur mindset. |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by brainpulse: 12:52pm On Mar 29, 2012 |
^^ the machine tells you,u believe it because you have headache etc.... SO can you touch it? |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by Kay17: 1:25pm On Mar 29, 2012 |
^^^ Scanners, right? Isn't the result confirmed by sensory perception? |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by Fhemmmy: 2:01pm On Mar 29, 2012 |
brainpulse: Secondly God is spiritual, You cant use the physical thing to prove the spiritual. Tell the atheist if they want to know that God exist tell them the only way is to be spiritual. Who has seen or touch His thoughts before, but we believe the thought exist because we think we are thinking our thoughts. So how do you prove your thoughts.Can we see it, touch it or i dont know. Ummmmm . .. Well said |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by emisun(m): 2:12pm On Mar 29, 2012 |
guy stop flooding the thread. if i start posting atheist scientist,this thread wudn't be able to contain it. |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by Koolking(m): 2:18pm On Mar 29, 2012 |
emmysam2: bittyend: I believe in God but I don't believe in religion. ^ Apt to say. Religion and God and spirituality are inseparable. |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by nanotee: 2:53pm On Mar 29, 2012 |
Seems the atheist are leading in dis debate. So does God exist? My answer is that no one knows for certain. One reason I think people associate with religion is the explanation of so many mysteries in their world. In yoruba land for instance, there are cases of witch crafts, river goddesses, re-incarnation, etc which are not explainable without reference to the super-natural. I don't think science would one day give an explanation to these super-natural mysteries. This is an aspect that so many atheists tend to over-look. Another issue raised is that the concept of God doesn't make so much sense, lacks appeal to the intellect. But because we cannot comprehend this God or understand in details why he seems powerless over many ills that plague man-kind is not enough to conclude on his non-existence. Not knowing the cure for AIDS doesn't mean it's in-existent. Finally, if there's a God then which? I think every person should decide. While I have not seen God physically, my experiences with him, which has gone beyond mere chance or hear-say has sealed my choice of faith. I choose to belief. Hoping that one day I would get more answers to the questions I have. taste and see that the Lord is good. |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by Nobody: 2:58pm On Mar 29, 2012 |
My mind is my church. I don't need religion. |
| Re: Atheist State Your Reasons For Not Believing In God/Religion by Kay17: 3:22pm On Mar 29, 2012 |
nanotee: Seems the atheist are leading in dis debate. So does God exist? My answer is that no one knows for certain. One reason I think people associate with religion is the explanation of so many mysteries in their world. In yoruba land for instance, there are cases of witch crafts, river goddesses, re-incarnation, etc which are not explainable without reference to the super-natural. I don't think science would one day give an explanation to these super-natural mysteries. This is an aspect that so many atheists tend to over-look. Another issue raised is that the concept of God doesn't make so much sense, lacks appeal to the intellect. But because we cannot comprehend this God or understand in details why he seems powerless over many ills that plague man-kind is not enough to conclude on his non-existence. Not knowing the cure for AIDS doesn't mean it's in-existent. Supernatural can't exist, its impossible. Its like drawing water from an empty barrel. |
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