hafees:

I know Davidlier is sick and please leave him alone, do not aggravate the frustrations of a would be hitler. when people talk about terrorism they forgot it came up first as a means of proetecting themselves. what do u say to the invasion of afghanistan, iraq, and intending one for iran, is it because Bush did not scream Halleluyah before the tanks starts rolling or the bullets starts turning young children to orphans , wives to widower and wipping out families and generations in the name of what. i hope david knows about the crusaders, if he is educated to such extent. what do you want Arabs and muslims to do/ take lying down or defend themselves with the small means at their grasps. No matter how hurrendous you see the things, the international community must stand up against countries like America who go into other ppls countries and massacre them.

back to the topic: the only Muslim guys who marry Christians are muslims by names because they can not actually stand learned sisters who would always caution them. Beside, Muslim or Christian woman, is your marriage a happy one, and are u glad you married that person?

finally when next david wants to air any of his uneducated and myopic issues about Islam and Muslims, please ignore. Do not fuel the ranting of a mad man

MY friend shut up your dirty beaks.
Weren't you the stupid fellow that impregnated a secondary school Christian girl that you now use at your whim,after destroying her life and self esteem.
I wonder what allah says about that?
Idiot.
then you attempt to play the story off when people come down on your sorry koranic backside
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please i nid your advice fellow nairalanders: suppose you impregnated  a girl while she's still in school, making her drp out. till she had her baby you refused to agree you own the pregnancy,making her go through lots of stress. finally you went to her parent because she left lagos for village for a year and you need to see your baby where they are staying. she's back in lagos after disturbing her, but the catch is you don't love her even though she's very pretty.

again you are a graduate , while she's a secondary school drop out who sometimes misfires grammar, can not read properly nor write. she's however very nice though with typical women problem. the catch in she comes in weekend to stay, and do the you know,  my parents like her now and i don't want her anymore. already i have sent her to a fashion design institute to learn. both our religion and tribe are different, she's not also coping well with her new religion. i have hurt her many times, i can't bare to do it again. how do i let her go without hurting her again.

May your seventy virgins in jannat look like Wesley Snipes

Rofl.

Wesley Snipes or you mean Baba Suwe.

D-reloaded:

Rofl.

Wesley Snipes or you mean Baba Suwe.

are you my bruv?
please tell me where he is

IBROHIM:

If I ever wanted to revert anyone (non-muslim) in nairaland to Islam, the first will be davidylan. This is because as much as he appears to relish hating muslims/Islam, he actually likes them. Why not say this after me; I testify that there's no deity worthy of worship except Allah and that Muhammad (saw) is the messanger of Allah. Welcome brother to peace in this world and peace in the world to come!!!!!!

the kind of "peace" that exists in Kano, Sudan, Gaza, Lebanon, Pakistan, Chad, Iran, Palestine? No sir, you can keep your "piss".

Mukina, Im a female so i cant be a bruv

davidylan:

the kind of "peace" that exists in Kano, Sudan, Gaza, Lebanon, Pakistan, Chad, Iran, Palestine? No sir, you can keep your "piss".

LOL

nwando:

MY friend shut up your dirty beaks.
Weren't you the stupid fellow that impregnated a secondary school Christian girl that you now use at your whim,after destroying her life and self esteem.
I wonder what allah says about that?
Idiot.
then you attempt to play the story off when people come down on your sorry koranic backside
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May your seventy virgins in jannat look like Wesley Snipes

@nwando,

That was a hit below the belt. The guy, hafees, posted that because he wanted to change for the better. He recognized his attitude towards the girl was horrible, and resorted to seek help through therapy from Nairalanders. We should commend people who want to change for the better instead of castigating them. Even in war, there are rules/guidelines.

hafees needs to be praised for:
1. Admitting he was wrong
2. Recognizing that he needed to change
3. Seeking ways to address his problem

Just my thoughts.

islam, they date christian girls as a means of conversion, they really have nothing to offer as regards their religion which is why they convert at the edge of the sword., marrying a christian girl, or better still dating has its end probably in marriage and conversion , turining all those children to become muslims by force not by cjhoice like the originator of this discussion, dont think you are a muslim cos you know, probably were born into it.

all a bunch of hateful suiceide bombers, and i pity the follower of a god who tells you to kill so you can get to heaven and sleep with big breasted virgins, pity you alll

@Nwando, am suppose to ignore you,but for the purpose of helping somebody whose sanity is eroding, i do not have intention of joining words with uncultured minds like urs, pls accept my apologies for calling u a mad human being. along with ur self rightous friend David i will like to tell you that humanity does not need the likes of you, and we beg you to extincts yourselves.
Once again u have displayed ur ignorance and lack of logical/analytical reasoning which even God you think you are fighting for did not bless you with.

@Olabowale

I am not arguing with you I have no hatred for a Muslim and any Idol worshiper. I was only trying to calm David down because he is using the same style of the Canal god. If my father was demon possessed i will say it not with disrespect or hate in my heart.


My father was never a muslim I attended an islamic school where students recited Arabic prose on the assembly. You had to stand there when they recite Bismili,

You as a stiudent will listen to the WASI especially on Friday.

I know the religion of Islam and it is one of the Highways to hell. You need to flee from this.It is only God (Jesus) can save you.

Accepting Jesus as a mere man is your way to hell accept him as God of your life. Mohamed was demon possessed because according to my bible he was. There are many people that were possessed of the devil in my bible Saul the king was one.

It were better Mohamed was never born to this world. Mohamed would wish he had died in his mothers womb. It will be sorrowful for him and those that follow him.

You cant be converted by me I have no intention to do so. We are in no competition our gospel is that of love and conviction. Advocate and Judge. Peace maker and Warriors of the Lord Jesus.

When we engage in the stone throwing it doesn't help good revelation of the truth. I must say that some of the post by people that say they are Christians begs the position of what the bible say a Christian should be.

However We know that Islam is an Evil stuffed religion. It is a tradition that is embedded with evil but to use evil means to expose evil is worse. Our words must be seasoned with salt. If we have nothing to respond we should just abandone the discussion.

The God that is spiritual will answer for himself.


Selah

Salam, i accidently stumbled on this topic today. I guess coming from the conservative muslim background i can say without mincing words that the overwheming factor for such relationship is the relative ease and loose nature of MOST xtian girls especially when compared to our muslim sisters. In essence, am not trying to crucify the xtian sistas but i mean just like what the author posited we all know how modernisation influence greatly the attitude of the christian folks in terms of openness and commercialisation. In most muslim guy-xtian girls relationship, the denominating factor is mostly naira and kobo, although we can't rule out some exceptions.

I think David is really catching fun. Meanwhile the minds of everybody in the house has been diverted from the main target of the question. Why can't there be peace in the house. I want everybody to realise that it is sinful to judge. No religion accept it. BE CAREFUL SO THAT U DO NOT GO ASTRAY. Seun should do something about this so that your website is not turned into a platform form war of words

Nwando and Davidylan, I can see are fanatics in every sense because I have no doubt in my mind if God were to forgive them, they'd readily annihilate the entirety of Muslims. I wonder what exactly debased you guys to this station. I really hope you'll try to focus on becoming better Christians rather than picking on Islam, which by the way is a waste of your time, but I guess y'all have an unlimited supply, don't you?

Anyways, I'm a Muslim, needless to say and I never blamed any Christian or anybody of any other faith for not liking Islam. What, with all the issues like terrorism and what not. First of all, sensible people would wonder why a people will accept to follow a religion that only preaches hate and the slaughter of 'infidels' or unbelievers. The answer is simple, Islam does not preach that. And I hope you guys will pick up a Qur'an and see for yourselves what it contains. As for hadiths, there have always been enemies of Islam and unfaithful ones and all sorts of people who fabricate lies to protect their interests. Therefore you should know that hadiths have been classified authentic, sound, weak and fabricated by Islamic scholars. This means that only authentic and sound hadiths can be reckoned with.

I'll take these topics one after the other. The most pressing, obviously being terrorism. Terrorism whether you admit it or not really started when the Israelis forcefully ejected the Palestinians from their land. And guess what their proof of ownership was. Biblical! God promised them the land in the Torah. Granted. Why did they wait several millenia for 'their' land. I do not know. Everybody knew the Jews to be scattered and quite like gypsies. Nobody likes the Jews except themselves, that's unfair but it's probably because you were only born a Jew or you simply were not. Be that as it may, the international community seeking for a place to dump these people picked Palestine and those fellas where not going to budge easy and thus the birth of 'terrorism' Armoured tanks and bulldozers razing to the ground humble homes and orphaning children isn't terrorism, but children desperately throwing stones at tanks is.

There are real demented terrorists in Islam. It's true. It's ugly but it's true, no denying it. But that does not make their actions reflections of the teachings of Islam. They're taking laws into their own hands the way they see fit. Even if they're crazy and have no real sense of Islam, the fact remains that they're not doing the right thing, because Islam has laws even for warfare. Killing women and children is never justified. Razing down trees and farms isn't either. Killing men who have surrendered is not either. Food for thought; do you really think Osama bin Laden, (even though he does not really represent Islamic ethics) could have been responsible for the September 11th bombings? In this day and age. With all the CIA sophistication. With all the fear of Arabs. He'll out of the arid mountains of Afghanistan plan to the letter an attack of such audacity on American soil. Why do you think the only missed target, the White House, happened to be missed. Why didn't the Jews show up for work? Why did the Israeli prime minister cancel his trip for the US? And why do you think the You. S. of A love Israel? Ever heard of the free masons? I bet not. Who do you think control the media who will repeat stories of suicide bombings here and there till we are catatonic. If the US. didn't only want Iraqi oil they'd take the shit happening in Darfur more seriously than all this lip service they're paying to it. Big Brother!

Do you know the reason why there's always WAR ON TERRORISM? because some people benefit from it. With everybody paranoid, it means sales in self defence weapons more than you can ever imagine. If y'all had more sense you'd look at the big picture but I guess small minds think small.

Ever heard of Michael Moore of Fahrenheit 9/11? Ever heard of Mark Koernke of Illuminazi? What about David something I forget (your namesake Davidylan who was killed because he talked too much). Do you guys know the people in charge, behind the scenes. Do you know anything about the Knights Templars. The Da Vinci Code? How baseless is it really? You don't dig deep into your own religion before you bother Muslims. We Muslims think of Jews and Christians as people of the book, meaning y'all were once on the right path, but God is angry at the Jews because they slay His prophets and the Christians are lost and astray according to Islam of course. When the Qur'an says y'all can never be our friends. It meant to in terms of religion because as far as religion is concerned we couldn't be more disparate. Y'all believe Jesus was God's kid (but yet in himself God) and God killed himself so that his father could forgive his creations. So he went to the hellfire that He created to suffer for the humans He created only so that he could forgive them. And these guys, the father, the son, and the holy spirit are all one o. But I don't understand how they split and one prays to the other for strength. Please explain o, because I don't understand how the basis of a religion would be utterly confusing 1+1+1=1. Boy! I guess the holy spirit has not touched me so I can't understand. Anyway in order not to talk too much I hope Nwando and David will really read this through before replying because I know they will so that they don't confuse my words because I hate that. My friend said I'm talking too much and that few words are enough for the wise. I guess y'all are not really wise so,

hafees:

Once again u have displayed your ignorance and lack of logical/analytical reasoning which even God you think you are fighting for did not bless you with.

Mr Hafees in Christianity God fights for us we dont fight for God. How can chickens fights for Lion, think! i'm sure you are mixing it up with jihadi where you guys deliberately fights without reasoning for the sake of mohammed. So i think you actually the ignoranmus.

belloti:

Salam, i accidently stumbled on this topic today. I guess coming from the conservative muslim background i can say without mincing words that the overwheming factor for such relationship is the relative ease and loose nature of MOST xtian girls especially when compared to our muslim sister.

I'm baffled, so the conservative muslims (the imams, alfas, alhajis, musilius etc) prefers the so called loose nature of christian girls! Case dismiss, the conservative muslim has just pointed that thier religion is of playboy and casinos so house lets move on.

belloti:

Salam, i accidently stumbled on this topic today. I guess coming from the conservative muslim background i can say without mincing words that the overwheming factor for such relationship is the relative ease and loose nature of MOST xtian girls especially when compared to our muslim sisters.

Not gonna deny that they are hypocritical Christian "sisters" but you are just flapping your gums. Care to explain why hymen reconstruction is so BIG in the middle East since the women are supposedly not loose?

@Skyone; Who is the overlord of playboy and/casinos and like matters? Muslims or what religion? There is no one in Islam that will tell you that Islam does not have bad apples. However, lookking at it from the populations as a who, be it from the religious or industrial population, Muslims is a very minute percentage. Further, you will see the weak Muslims being egged on, and not the Muslims egging the other people, to doing evil! Speak the truth my man.

olabowale:

@Skyone; Who is the overlord of playboy and/casinos and like matters? Muslims or what religion? There is no one in Islam that will tell you that Islam does not have bad apples. However, lookking at it from the populations as a who, be it from the religious or industrial population, Muslims is a very minute percentage. Further, you will see the weak Muslims being egged on, and not the Muslims egging the other people, to doing evil! Speak the truth my man.

Your righteouness can oonly lead you all to one place dear muslim brothrs. Hell! Your quran says so. njoy it while it lasts _{(if not forever)}

olabowale:

@Skyone; Who is the overlord of playboy and/casinos and like matters? Muslims or what religion? There is no one in Islam that will tell you that Islam does not have bad apples. However, lookking at it from the populations as a who, be it from the religious or industrial population, Muslims is a very minute percentage. Further, you will see the weak Muslims being egged on, and not the Muslims egging the other people, to doing evil! Speak the truth my man.

Once again you are mixing up christianity with other faith i.e atheist, pagan, bhuddist, scientologies, muslims, etc. whom always bombard the brutels like no tomorrow. Haven't u heard about Dubai, dream of a kind of girl you wish to sleep with you will have it there according to source ( islam TV)

@ Olabowale

Your question answered

THIS IS TO DAVIDYLAN, U WANNA SHOW ME WHERE IN THE QURAN THAT EXTOLLS VIOLENCE, AND ALL WHAT U TALKED ABOUT?? u need to realli start respecting other people's religions. its cos of people like u we have wars in places that are warring now! on this thread is not anything bout religion but why some sects prefer to date people from other sects, i mite say the same for hindus and sikhs
i guess u are totally unexposed to islam and all wat u know is the propaganda from the american press where u claim to live, u need to stop all the invectives cos wen u truly fall victim to the "terrorists" that u seem to be talking about then u would truly have something to talk about!
peace,
p.s take a moment and ask God for forgiveness cos u say ALLAH doesnt mean God and u didnt tell us wat it meant, thats blasphemous. also are u a christian?? cos u havent talked about another religion u just seem to get all hot and bothered when islam is mentioned.

to all the nwAndo's and davidylan of the world. u deserve an applause for the continued hatred for a religion u know next to nothing about. u shud concentrate ur energies on making urselves better people and moving forward in the world instead of expending all ur energy in nairaland pouring insults on people who dont even know u exist except for the few who are on nairaland!

st kitts:

THIS IS TO DAVIDYLAN, You WANNA SHOW ME WHERE IN THE QURAN THAT EXTOLLS VIOLENCE, AND ALL WHAT You TALKED ABOUT??

Quran: 9:111, Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur’an.

You want more?

st kitts:

u need to realli start respecting other people's religions.

You dont respect what dehumanises humans (making him believe in some fairy 70 virgins and a paradise of wine and wealth and makes him commit suicide and blow innocent people. Mohammad has succeeded in making beasts (that he was out of humans and called them moslems.

st kitts:

its because of people like u we have wars in places that are warring now! on this thread is not anything bout religion but why some sects prefer to date people from other sects, i mite say the same for hindus and sikhs

Twisted reasoning there! It is rather cos of Islam that the world has no peace. The teachings of Christ does not support violence. So, no christain has a basis for violence as far as the teachings of Jesus goes either from the bible or even in the quran ! Muslims on the other hand have a basis for violence.

st kitts:

i guess u are totally unexposed to islam and all what u know is the propaganda from the american press where u claim to live, u need to stop all the invectives because when u truly fall victim to the "terrorists" that u seem to be talking about then u would truly have something to talk about!
peace,

It is obvious, you need help in understanding what yu quran teaches and not vice versa.

st kitts:

p.s take a moment and ask God for forgiveness because u say ALLAH doesnt mean God and u didnt tell us what it meant, thats blasphemous. also are u a christian?? because u havent talked about another religion u just seem to get all hot and bothered when islam is mentioned.

No! With all certainty, allah is not the God of the Christians. Our God is not the one of confusion. If your Mohammedan god says kill infidels and our Christian God says love them, how are they the same? In actual fact, allah was the chief god of the arabians before Mohammad was even born. Muslim scholars have never denied this fact that allah existed before Mohammad, your prophet was born! He only redefined one of the over 360 gods that were in the kaaba! .

So, no blasphemy as far as we are concerned because, allah is on of the gods that the bible instructs that:

2 Kings 19:18 And have cast their gods into the fire: for they were no gods, but the work of men's hands, wood and stone: therefore they have destroyed them.

st kitts:

to all the nwAndo's and davidylan of the world. u deserve an applause for the continued hatred for a religion u know next to nothing about. u should concentrate your energies on making urselves better people and moving forward in the world instead of expending all your energy in nairaland pouring insults on people who don't even know u exist except for the few who are on nairaland!

Sorry my pal!

It will sound like hatred when people directly oppose you and prove to you that what you believe in is a hoax! No appologies whatever for stating the obvious. It is you who should accept the incontrovertible. You cant deny the fact that the Mohammadan religion does not have anything to offer people and hnce, people will never convert unless when forced by the sword.

@cgift


I learnt you are the type that posts and never wait to read your response.

Quran: 9:111, Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur’an.

You want more?

I have been saying and will continue doing so that ignorance is really a disease. Is that your understanding of the verse? I dont need to waste much time with your lack of understanding here. The verse is quite glaring but your mischievousness blinded you. Do you care if I show you verses in the bible where Killing spree happened and sex-attack was even allowed in which the punishment is that you must marry that virgin by force .You do not think or go through your holy book before going into another religion. Nuisance. You are pissing me off.

You don't respect what dehumanises humans (making him believe in some fairy 70 virgins and a paradise of wine and wealth and makes him commit suicide and blow innocent people. Mohammad has succeeded in making beasts (that he was out of humans and called them moslems.

Bird of a feather will always flock together. I thought that you are more matured that david and nwando (babyosis) but your response here showed that you knew nothing.

Read her post again and go through your response to here. Is there any relationship? Debating with you people is a sheer waste of time.

Twisted reasoning there! It is rather because of Islam that the world has no peace. The teachings of Christ does not support violence. So, no christain has a basis for violence as far as the teachings of Jesus goes either from the bible or even in the quran ! Muslims on the other hand have a basis for violence.

I think you need to read about the origin of christianity. You go to search engine, encyclopedia etc for further assistance and when you ar through, you get back at me. Yeye set of people.

It is obvious, you need help in understanding what yu quran teaches and not vice versa.

It is useless arguing with someone that does not the origin of his religion let alone knowing about others.

No! With all certainty, allah is not the God of the Christians. Our God is not the one of confusion.

Ok. if thats how you want it. Our God didnt die nor nailed to the cross. He did not die let alone rising the 3rd day.
Our God is not a hypocrite that begged himself again when he was about to die (prayed almost 4 times when he took his disciples at guards to watch over). He is not the one that commited his spirit to himself and shouted to himself my God, why thou forsaken me.I can continue but need to stop.

If your Mohammedan god says kill infidels and our Christian God says love them, how are they the same?

Unless you want to say that Jesus is not God of OT. You might have come across merciless killings of men, women, animals etc in the bible and the keeping of virgins to themselves!!

In actual fact, allah was the chief god of the arabians before Mohammad was even born. Muslim scholars have never denied this fact that allah existed before Mohammad, your prophet was born! He only redefined one of the over 360 gods that were in the kaaba! .

I can see that you lacked knowledge.

So, no blasphemy as far as we are concerned because, allah is on of the gods that the bible instructs that:

2 Kings 19:18 And have cast their gods into the fire: for they were no gods, but the work of men's hands, wood and stone: therefore they have destroyed them.

Omode yi,. I pity your soul. Jesus said that it is not what goes into the mouth that defile a man but what comes out of it.

Sorry my pal!

It will sound like hatred when people directly oppose you and prove to you that what you believe in is a hoax!

Mumu for real. Please go into the origin of your religion, the story about the cross. who started it and it was accepted into the christin world and other issue and you will see that your religion started from paganism. Even Paul took same to gentiles and modernised it.

No appologies whatever for stating the obvious. It is you who should accept the incontrovertible. You can't deny the fact that the Mohammadan religion does not have anything to offer people and hnce, people will never convert unless when forced by the sword.

I pity your soul. It has been offering and will continue offering. You better quit deceiving yourself and wallowing in the religion of confusion in which Jesus himself knew nothing about.

Have a lovely day.

It is not suprising to see christians that have such a tremendous hatred for their fellow human being, its normal in their doctrines, believe and their ideology have being shaped to hate any that have to do with is Islam. David or what did they call you, am not suprise about you,i dont always expect anything less from a christian like you. it happens in schools, in my office, everywhere. Christain are the most intolerant peolple i have ever known( i was once like you, i have everything about Islam or Muslims, so i know what am saying). God bless you as you continue in His work of criticising others, showing hatred, displesure at others etc. Prophet David

Have you ever heard of Las Vegas, Reno, etc, all in Nevada? Las Vegas is dubbed 'Sin City.' Who are the owners of all the casinos? Please, lets face facts. Those Muslims, who indulge in those unislamic behaviours, when they see other Muslims who are not misbehaving like them, the cower and feel ashamed. No one says that there are no bad eggs in Islam.

Unlike, the Christians, the one who was not involved will jump hands and feet, into the filth, just with the slightest of encouragements. I know these things well. Please, you are always hanging your hope on the cross, so why is there any shame or pretension of it, now.

The case of the Arabs, in the Gulf, is really a confirmation of the prophethood of Muhammad (as). There is a hadith that talks about the present issues of the people in the gulf. By the way, they are trying to be like you. The majority of the patrons are Christians.

combatant:

@cgift


I learnt you are the type that posts and never wait to read your response.


I have been saying and will continue doing so that ignorance is really a disease. Is that your understanding of the verse? I don't need to waste much time with your lack of understanding here. The verse is quite glaring but your mischievousness blinded you. Do you care if I show you verses in the bible where Killing spree happened and sex-attack was even allowed in which the punishment is that you must marry that virgin by force .You do not think or go through your holy book before going into another religion. Nuisance. You are pissing me off.


Bird of a feather will always flock together. I thought that you are more matured that david and nwando (babyosis) but your response here showed that you knew nothing.

Read her post again and go through your response to here. Is there any relationship? Debating with you people is a sheer waste of time.



I think you need to read about the origin of christianity. You go to search engine, encyclopedia etc for further assistance and when you ar through, you get back at me. Yeye set of people.



It is useless arguing with someone that does not the origin of his religion let alone knowing about others.






Ok. if thats how you want it. Our God didnt die nor nailed to the cross. He did not die let alone rising the 3rd day.
Our God is not a hypocrite that begged himself again when he was about to die (prayed almost 4 times when he took his disciples at guards to watch over). He is not the one that commited his spirit to himself and shouted to himself my God, why thou forsaken me.I can continue but need to stop.



Unless you want to say that Jesus is not God of OT. You might have come across merciless killings of men, women, animals etc in the bible and the keeping of virgins to themselves!!


I can see that you lacked knowledge.


Omode yi,. I pity your soul. Jesus said that it is not what goes into the mouth that defile a man but what comes out of it.



Mumu for real. Please go into the origin of your religion, the story about the cross. who started it and it was accepted into the christin world and other issue and you will see that your religion started from paganism. Even Paul took same to gentiles and modernised it.


I pity your soul. It has been offering and will continue offering. You better quit deceiving yourself and wallowing in the religion of confusion in which Jesus himself knew nothing about.

Have a lovely day.

Sheer intellectual laziness! Why dont you juts take the issues i raised one after the other and trash them with your scholarship. When someone has nothing to hide, thats whn he says nothing amidst a seeming plenty.

Take your scriptures against our scriptures and debate them intellectually and stop all these otiose remarks of insults. Address issues.

I will still serve you with more :

Islam divides the world in two parts: Darul Harb (land of war) and Darul Islam (land of Islam). Darul Harb is the land of the infidels, Muslims are required to infiltrate those lands, proselytize and procreate until their number increase and then start the war and fight and kill the people and impose the religion of Islam on them and convert that land into Darul Islam. Disprove that.

Another:

Keep on fighting until the persecution stops and Islam is established; one-fifth of booty belongs to God and Mohammad, Sura 8:39-41. Disprove it lets see.

Muslims are compassionate with each other but are strong to fight against the unbelievers, Sura 48:29

Kill (execute by beheading)/crucify/torture who opposes Mohammad, 5:33

Do not make friendship with the Jews and the Christians, 5:51

Fight against the Jews and the Christians until they are subdued and pay the Jizya tax with submission; God's curse is on them, 9:29-31

So what else do you want about terrorism?

Grow up and address issues like a man. But if you refuse, i hope you have a doctor around you who can attend to you should you burst your pressured veins.

It looks like david and nwando were the topics at the various mosques last night
all these people coming out from the woodworks to talk nonsense.
Take it out on allah and Mo.
They wrote the manual of terror called the Koran not me or any Christians.

D-reloaded:

Not going to deny that they are hypocritical Christian "sisters" but you are just flapping your gums. Care to explain why hymen reconstruction is so BIG in the middle East since the women are supposedly not loose?

Didn't you notice how all the muslim brovas carefully avoided the hymen reconstruction surgery part of this discussion.
Screaming to high heavens that Christian girls are loose yet their hooded women are trooping to doctors in droves cladded in burquas to replug what Abdullahi dismantled to allow Sidiqqui and Hassan a free entry .

Unless they'll have us believe  these girls lost their virginity riding camels
or doing abluttion

Like I earlier stated,you don't have to be at all religioius to decide to commit or not commit fornication.

Let them keep deceiving themselves thinking the hijabs make a woman asexual.
She put it on and she can take off if need be.

Found this online,it may interest some people about these virgin,"untouched" girls that bellotti and olabowole tell us about.
These people are so deceptive,it's not even funny.

February 22, 2007 at 2:08 am · Filed under Gender, Law, Middle East, Religion, World

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Great news out of Egypt tonight. The Grand Mufti of Egypt (one of the most respected scholars of Islamic law) has issued a fatwa saying that premarital hymen reconstructive surgery is halal (religiously permissable[color=#990000][/color]), and that women don’t need to tell their future husbands about it. He even went so far as to say that a woman is under no obligation to tell her husband that she had premarital sex if she has repented. I can’t be sure, since I can’t find the actual fatwa, but the newspaper article made it seem like this applies even to adultery.

The best part? Another scholar (Shiekh Khaled El Gindy) has chimed in, saying that the reason for this fatwa is that “Islam never differentiates between men and women, so it is not rational for us to think that God has placed a sign to indicate the virginity of women without having a similar sign to indicate the virginity of men.” Apparently he also has a similar sense of humor as I do, since he added that “Any man who is concerned about his prospective wife’s hymen should first provide a proof that he himself is virgin.” (I want to meet this guy!)

So, next time someone tells you that Islam is inherently misogynistic, point them here. It’s happening slowly, but it’s making strides.

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@Nwando: After two grown kids, I can not claim that am a virgin. Further, I do not participate in illicit sex. I will not ask if a would be wife is a virgin. My prerequisite is simple that she is a BELIEVER. I will even go for a Christian, and or Jew, knowing fully well that God may use my relationship with her to soften her heart. I am not talking about you. We already know that you are hooked. But a man who is asking question about the virginity of a woman, may receive an unpleasant answer.

What does the Bible say about Virginity? What is the ruling on hymen or virginity, in Christianity, Doctor? Talk to me.