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What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by Santi222(m): 9:18am On Jun 26, 2012
Although this question might sound funny, if you look at it in a new perspective, it's a very serious thing. I've been reading the Book of Proverbs for a while now and in practically every chapter and verse, I came across the word FOOL. I've pondered over this word and feel like writing a discourse on it. However, I'd like to seek the opinions of more spiritually enlightened minds than mine before I make my move. To your own spiritual understanding, define or explain what is meant by the word FOOL. Who or what exactly is a fool? How does your definition fit in with human attitudes and behaviours in today's world?
Awaiting your divinely inspired answers, please. Thank you.
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:22am On Jun 26, 2012
Santi222:

Although this question might sound funny, if you look at it in a new perspective, it's a very serious thing. I've been reading the Book of Proverbs for a while now and in practically every chapter and verse, I came across the word FOOL. I've pondered over this word and feel like writing a discourse on it. However, I'd like to seek the opinions of more spiritually enlightened minds than mine before I make my move. To your own spiritual understanding, define or explain what is meant by the word FOOL. Who or what exactly is a fool? How does your definition fit in with human attitudes and behaviours in today's world?
Awaiting your divinely inspired answers, please. Thank you.

A fool, according to Psalm 14:1, is an atheist.
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by Santi222(m): 9:41am On Jun 26, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

A fool, according to Psalm 14:1, is an atheist.
That dèfinition is definitely correct but I'm inclined to believe that its a rather narrow minded one. Cant a person believe in God and still occassionally act in a foolish manner? Like David did with Uriah's wife?
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by Santi222(m): 9:46am On Jun 26, 2012
@OLADEGBU, i like your posts and topics that I've been reading. More grace to your elbow and may God give you more wisdom to carry on the good work. I'd like us to discuss more on the Word of God soonest.
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by PastorAIO: 11:54am On Jun 26, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

A fool, according to Psalm 14:1, is an atheist.

What do you think about the subsequent 2 verses of that psalm:


2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is[b] none[/b] that doeth good, no, not one.


Are we all atheists? Certainly not all professing atheists, however we all behave and conduct our lives as if there is NO God watching us. Our professing of Atheism is not with the mouth ,but worse still, with our actions.
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by Nobody: 11:56am On Jun 26, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

A fool, according to Psalm 14:1, is an atheist.


grin grin
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by Enigma(m): 12:32pm On Jun 26, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

A fool, according to Psalm 14:1, is an atheist.

Indeed! And add the following to it too. smiley

Romans 1

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

cool
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by Image123(m): 12:52pm On Jun 26, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

A fool, according to Psalm 14:1, is an atheist.
funny but true. just to add that there are different degrees and hierarchy. many a fool will say in their heart and actions, but a bigger fool will type it. a much bigger fool will say it with the mouth.
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by logicboy01: 1:37pm On Jun 26, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

A fool, according to Psalm 14:1, is an atheist.

Santi222: @OLADEGBU, i like your posts and topics that I've been reading. More grace to your elbow and may God give you more wisdom to carry on the good work. I'd like us to discuss more on the Word of God soonest.



Image123:
funny but true. just to add that there are different degrees and hierarchy. many a fool will say in their heart and actions, but a bigger fool will type it. a much bigger fool will say it with the mouth.




The hypocrisy is just sad.


All muslims are fools
-Islamophobic bigotry

All christians are fools
-Anti-christian bigotry

All black people are fools
-Racist. Racial bigotry.


All atheists are fools
-It is okay and it is not immoral because the bible says so. Ironic that you are using computers and a website made by atheists.

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Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by Nobody: 1:43pm On Jun 26, 2012
logicboy01:

All atheists are fools
-It is okay and it is not immoral because the bible says so. Ironic that you are using computers and a website made by atheists.

I have addressed this point before.

All the major scientists that laid the principles and fundamentals of science and technology believed in a GOD.

Atheists came into the picture thousands of years later , borrowing the concepts and ideas of these men who believed in GOD grin

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Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by logicboy01: 1:47pm On Jun 26, 2012
frosbel:

I have addressed this point before.

All the major scientists that laid the principles and fundamentals of science and technology believed in a GOD.

Atheists came into the picture thousands of years later , borrowing the concepts and ideas of these men who believed in GOD grin


lolololololololollololololololololololololololo grin grin grin grin

Ignorance on display.

Einstein was an agnostic.

Furthermore, even if you were right, does it make all atheists fools or change the hypocrisy that you are using an atheist's website on an atheist's OS?

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Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by Joel3(m): 2:18pm On Jun 26, 2012
A fool can be refered to any person inrespective of who u are once he or she does something that's not right to others. Example critics can call thier president, pastor, imam, or anybody a fool. So to them that person is a fool. So i would say nobody is really a fool, since any body can point finger to other as fool and that same can also point it out back to them. So the word fool is to bring individual personality down.
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by logicboy01: 2:22pm On Jun 26, 2012
Joel.:
A fool can be refered to any person inrespective of who u are once he or she does something that's not right to others. Example critics can call thier president, pastor, imam, or anybody a fool. So to them that person is a fool. So i would say nobody is really a fool, since any body can point finger to other as fool and that same can also point it out back to them. So the word fool is to bring individual personality down.


A voice of reason.


Thank you
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by Image123(m): 2:29pm On Jun 26, 2012
logicboy01:










The hypocrisy is just sad.


All muslims are fools
-Islamophobic bigotry

All christians are fools
-Anti-christian bigotry

All black people are fools
-Racist. Racial bigotry.


All atheists are fools
-It is okay and it is not immoral because the bible says so. Ironic that you are using computers and a website made by atheists.
what sort of childish argument are you making? when are you going to grow up. is there a law about whose product to use, is the food you eat, the school you go etc owned by atheists. is microsoft , oracle, etc comprised only of atheists?
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by logicboy01: 2:45pm On Jun 26, 2012
Image123:
what sort of childish argument are you making? when are you going to grow up. is there a law about whose product to use, is the food you eat, the school you go etc owned by atheists. is microsoft , oracle, etc comprised only of atheists?


Typical christian bigot/apologist. You avoided the point that calling all atheists "fools" is bigotry just as calling all muslims or black people fools. You instead went to challenge the other point about atheist technology. Kai.....you people just like to embarass yourselves.



There is no law concerning using the products of atheists. The point that I am making is that it is hypocritical to call atheists fools while using products MADE by atheists. Bill Gates (agnostic), Seun of Nairaland (Atheist). I mentioned specific products that were created by atheists. Bringing up food or schools is just a strawman.
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by Image123(m): 10:34pm On Jun 26, 2012
logicboy01:


Typical christian bigot/apologist. You avoided the point that calling all atheists "fools" is bigotry just as calling all muslims or black people fools. You instead went to challenge the other point about atheist technology. Kai.....you people just like to embarass yourselves.



There is no law concerning using the products of atheists. The point that I am making is that it is hypocritical to call atheists fools while using products MADE by atheists. Bill Gates (agnostic), Seun of Nairaland (Atheist). I mentioned specific products that were created by atheists. Bringing up food or schools is just a strawman.



neither seun or Gates created or made whatever you refer to on their own, even one man business is not exactly always run by one man, not to mention nl and microsoft, and the programming, people and platforms employed and purchased. people who believe there is a God are not in your class so why bring them up at the first instance.
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by Image123(m): 10:51pm On Jun 26, 2012
logicboy01:


Typical christian bigot/apologist. You avoided the point that calling all atheists "fools" is bigotry just as calling all muslims or black people fools. You instead went to challenge the other point about atheist technology. Kai.....you people just like to embarass yourselves.



There is no law concerning using the products of atheists. The point that I am making is that it is hypocritical to call atheists fools while using products MADE by atheists. Bill Gates (agnostic), Seun of Nairaland (Atheist). I mentioned specific products that were created by atheists. Bringing up food or schools is just a strawman.



Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by logicboy01: 10:52pm On Jun 26, 2012
Image123:
neither seun or Gates created or made whatever you refer to on their own, even one man business is not exactly always run by one man, not to mention nl and microsoft, and the programming, people and platforms employed and purchased. people who believe there is a God are not in your class so why bring them up at the first instance.

You are just babbling now. Why is it so hard for christians to admit that they and their bible are wrong.

All atheists are not fools and therefore psalm 14;1 is not true "a fool says in his heart there is not God".


As for Seun and Bill gates, they created their products and you use them. You were free to use other products but you chose to use atheists products. It is irrelevant if they have employees- they created what you use. Stop embarrassing yourself and admit that you're wrong.
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by Image123(m): 10:57pm On Jun 26, 2012
you think people who believe there is a God, any god, are deluded. it's no strawman but a parallel, why do you eat their food, go to their schools, allow them to be your Teachers, why do you have such for parents?
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by logicboy01: 11:00pm On Jun 26, 2012
Image123: you think people who believe there is a God, any god, are deluded. it's no strawman but a parallel, why do you eat their food, go to their schools, allow them to be your Teachers, why do you have such for parents?


Epic fail.


What I think about people who believe in God;

-They have faith when there is no evidence and they believe what has been told to them concerning religion by people or books. I dont call them fools. I used to believe in God. They are wrong but not fools
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by Freksy(m): 1:37am On Jun 27, 2012
logicboy01:


Epic fail.


What I think about people who believe in God;

-They have faith when there is no evidence and they believe what has been told to them concerning religion by people or books. I dont call them fools. I used to believe in God. They are wrong but not fools

'I used to believe in God' ......... It may be true, but you surely did not know/understand him.
Millions who still claim to believe in him do so by mere professing. During that time, did you realize that the bible has a central theme that runs from Gen. To Rev.?
If you and those who still believe in God are ignorant of this, then you would more likely than not misapply and misunderstand it.

I must confess, I appreciate some of the questions you ask about God and the bible.
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by logicboy01: 2:30am On Jun 27, 2012
Freksy:

'I used to believe in God' ......... It may be true, but you surely did not know/understand him.
Millions who still claim to believe in him do so by mere professing. During that time, did you realize that the bible has a central theme that runs from Gen. To Rev.?
If you and those who still believe in God are ignorant of this, then you would more likely than not misapply and misunderstand it.

I must confess, I appreciate some of the questions you ask about God and the bible.






What are you talking about? How can youknow something tat has never interacted with you?
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by okeyxyz(m): 4:56am On Jun 27, 2012
@santi222, it's simple actually, a fool is a disobedient person, someone who goes against his conscience, refuses to do what is right/what works and the discipline that goes with it. Yes! there's no truth/right without discipline!
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by Image123(m): 12:31pm On Jun 27, 2012
logicboy01:


Epic fail.


What I think about people who believe in God;

-They have faith when there is no evidence and they believe what has been told to them concerning religion by people or books. I dont call them fools. I used to believe in God. They are wrong but not fools
you're a liar like the devil. Anything that any man has is given him by God. its not the birds making that they have sharper vision,neither is it man's making that he's more brilliant than other living things. What we are responsible for is to fear God and keep His commandments. Anyone who fails this single task is a failure irrespective of whatever else he may do. To not acknowledge the task at all is what makes you a fool, not your JAMB score.

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Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by cold(m): 1:00pm On Jun 27, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

A fool, according to Psalm 14:1, is an atheist.

Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by logicboy01: 1:11pm On Jun 27, 2012
Image123:
you're a liar like the devil. Anything that any man has is given him by God. its not the birds making that they have sharper vision,neither is it man's making that he's more brilliant than other living things. What we are responsible for is to fear God and keep His commandments. Anyone who fails this single task is a failure irrespective of whatever else he may do. To not acknowledge the task at all is what makes you a fool, not your JAMB score.


Hahahahahah grin grin grin grin

Image123 is mad!! Why so angry? It's not my fault that ur bible is wrong!

Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by Santi222(m): 1:26pm On Jun 27, 2012
okeyxyz: @santi222, it's simple actually, a fool is a disobedient person, someone who goes against his conscience, refuses to do what is right/what works and the discipline that goes with it. Yes! there's no truth/right without discipline!
I agree with u here. A person may be defined as a fool when he is indisciplined, disobedient or rebellious to the tenets or principles of a particular school of thought, Christianity in the Case.
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:46pm On Jun 27, 2012
Santi222:

That dèfinition is definitely correct but I'm inclined to believe that its a rather narrow minded one. Cant a person believe in God and still occassionally act in a foolish manner? Like David did with Uriah's wife?

Was David conscious of the presence of the Lord when he committed the double act? A fool is someone who thinks, says, or acts as if there is no God. The good thing about David is that he repented and was restored after praying the prayer in Psalm 51.
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:49pm On Jun 27, 2012
Santi222:

@OLADEGBU, i like your posts and topics that I've been reading. More grace to your elbow and may God give you more wisdom to carry on the good work. I'd like us to discuss more on the Word of God soonest.

I am happy to know that you are being blessed by my posts. May the good Lord give you the spirit of wisdom and understanding in the knowledge of Him.
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:54pm On Jun 27, 2012
Pastor AIO:

What do you think about the subsequent 2 verses of that psalm:


2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is[b] none[/b] that doeth good, no, not one.


Are we all atheists? Certainly not all professing atheists, however we all behave and conduct our lives as if there is NO God watching us. Our professing of Atheism is not with the mouth ,but worse still, with our actions.

It is true that many of us are worse than professing athiests in the sense that we live as if God does not exist. This is why we should pray the prayer of David and forsake our evil ways and develop the fear of God. Working out our salvation with fear and trembling.
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:12pm On Jun 27, 2012
logicboy01:

The hypocrisy is just sad.


All muslims are fools
-Islamophobic bigotry

All christians are fools
-Anti-christian bigotry

All black people are fools
-Racist. Racial bigotry.


All atheists are fools
-It is okay and it is not immoral because the bible says so. Ironic that you are using computers and a website made by atheists.

If I say that I don't believe Seun exists what would that make me? And if Seun on the other hand says that God does not exist, what will that make him? Let's see whether you can crack that.
Re: What Does The Bible Mean Whenever It Uses This Word? by logicboy01: 2:20pm On Jun 27, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

If I say that I don't believe Seun exists what would that make me? And if Seun on the other hand says that God does not exist, what will that make him? Let's see whether you can crack that.


I have already debunked that flawed argument. There is evidence for Seun and none for God. Dont push this failed argument

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